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Trinkwasser - 15 May 2008 19:25 GMT Some of you may remember I have an aunt who was recently told at 80 she had the blood pressure of a thirty year old. Despite being quite fat.
She was the one whose husband died last year.
For some while now she's had some strange symptoms and back pain, and has put on even more weight.
Turns out she had an aortic aneurism.
They've been humming and harring about it for months now, she finally lost her patience with the NHS doctor and went private. Strangely she saw exactly the same doctor.
It appears that the aneurysm had gotten rapidly worse to the extent they were trying to get her into one of the leading hospitals as a matter of urgency.
Too late, the damn thing ruptured last night and she's not expected to survive.
Did I ever mention f.ck THE NHS recently?
(On the other hand it may not be such a bad thing, she was never the same since he died and like me she always preferred the idea of popping off quick rather than lingering. Just not quite yet <sigh>)
Cheri - 15 May 2008 19:56 GMT Trinkwasser wrote in message ...
>Some of you may remember I have an aunt who was recently told at 80 >she had the blood pressure of a thirty year old. Despite being quite [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >same since he died and like me she always preferred the idea of >popping off quick rather than lingering. Just not quite yet <sigh>) I'm sorry to hear that Trink. It's always such a shame when the timing of medical procedures is involved. Take care and I wish you and your family well.
Cheri
TaniO - 15 May 2008 20:00 GMT > Some of you may remember I have an aunt who was recently told at 80 > she had the blood pressure of a thirty year old. Despite being quite [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > same since he died and like me she always preferred the idea of > popping off quick rather than lingering. Just not quite yet <sigh>) So sorry about that. One of my dearest friends died from a ruptured aortic aneurysm. Our only consolation was that it was relatively quick.
Take care, Trink.
TaniO
Julie Bove - 15 May 2008 21:08 GMT > Some of you may remember I have an aunt who was recently told at 80 > she had the blood pressure of a thirty year old. Despite being quite [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > same since he died and like me she always preferred the idea of > popping off quick rather than lingering. Just not quite yet <sigh>) Wow! Sorry to hear that.
Tiger_Lily - 15 May 2008 23:05 GMT > Some of you may remember I have an aunt who was recently told at 80 > she had the blood pressure of a thirty year old. Despite being quite [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > same since he died and like me she always preferred the idea of > popping off quick rather than lingering. Just not quite yet <sigh>) oh NO!!!!!!!!!!
how awful, Trink, i'm so sorry to hear this :(
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Alan S - 16 May 2008 00:19 GMT >Some of you may remember I have an aunt who was recently told at 80 >she had the blood pressure of a thirty year old. Despite being quite [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >same since he died and like me she always preferred the idea of >popping off quick rather than lingering. Just not quite yet <sigh>) Sorry to hear that Trink. Damn.
Alan, T2, Australia.
krom - 16 May 2008 12:33 GMT Adding my ditto to your post as i missed the oreigional..sorry trink...
KROM
>>Some of you may remember I have an aunt who was recently told at 80 >>she had the blood pressure of a thirty year old. Despite being quite [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Alan, T2, Australia. Màck©® - 16 May 2008 03:28 GMT >Some of you may remember I have an aunt who was recently told at 80 >she had the blood pressure of a thirty year old. Despite being quite [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >same since he died and like me she always preferred the idea of >popping off quick rather than lingering. Just not quite yet <sigh>)
sorry for your pain, praying for you.
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BlueBrooke - 16 May 2008 05:16 GMT >Some of you may remember I have an aunt who was recently told at 80 >she had the blood pressure of a thirty year old. Despite being quite [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >same since he died and like me she always preferred the idea of >popping off quick rather than lingering. Just not quite yet <sigh>) This is such horrible news. All my thoughts and prayers to you and your family.
Nick Cramer - 16 May 2008 06:17 GMT > Some of you may remember I have an aunt who was recently told at 80 > she had the blood pressure of a thirty year old. Despite being quite [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > same since he died and like me she always preferred the idea of > popping off quick rather than lingering. Just not quite yet <sigh>) I'm sorry to hear that they're such a bunch of dickheads, Trink.
My 53 year old cousin died of an aortic aneurism. He didn't have a health care directive, so the hospital kept him alive for an additional two weeks by having him multi-needled and hosed and hooked up to a room full of machines. Thankfully, he got a lot of morphine.
I hope she has a peaceful passing.
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Trinkwasser - 16 May 2008 21:03 GMT >> Some of you may remember I have an aunt who was recently told at 80 >> she had the blood pressure of a thirty year old. Despite being quite [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >I'm sorry to hear that they're such a bunch of dickheads, Trink. One day I swear I'm going to get hold of a doctor, hack his leg off with an axe and say "I could have done something about that, but it;s too late now"
>My 53 year old cousin died of an aortic aneurism. He didn't have a health >care directive, so the hospital kept him alive for an additional two weeks >by having him multi-needled and hosed and hooked up to a room full of >machines. Thankfully, he got a lot of morphine. > >I hope she has a peaceful passing. Got the call this morning, she died.
Thanks all for the condolences.
It was all a bit sudden at the end. She came to see us less than a week ago, her sister wanted to buy a new birdtable and there's a neighbour makes them, so she came over and brought her with..
She wasn't feeling up to getting out of the car (food poisoning which may have been the last straw/triggering factor) so I stood out in the yard and we had a long chat.
I HOPE we made her realise how important she was to us (if you know someone like that make damn sure you tell them, K?)
When I was little she used to babysit and take me out from time to time. (She couldn't have children of her own). She was very with it (ask your parents or granparents what that means) and back in the sixties she had a Triumph Spitfire.
She is responsible for our living here. She married a man from just down the road, and back in the sixties they bought a little pink cottage in a nearby village and did it up. Originally you crapped in a bucket and buried it in the garden, and when you used the sink or bath the water ran into a bucket (different bucket!) and was spread on the garden or poured down the drain in the road. Also it had a cross between a ladder and stairs to go upstairs.
They used the cottage for holidays and visitng here, and also working as her husband was a lawyer (and later a judge) and used to work hereabouts some of the time, and when they weren't using it they let us and other people stay there.
In later years they moved to a village just down the road to retire.
After my divorce (my old man had died by then) I went back to stay with my mother temporarily and started trying to convince her to move.
It was only after we'd visited this aunt and her husband and sister and mother had seen how easily they'd settled in that she seriously began to consider the idea.
And let me sell her house and buy this one.
It was also due to her genealogical research that I discovered the somewhat freaky incidence of diabetes and metabolic syndrome/cardiovascular stuff in her side of the family, which is what has led to my being here.
So throughout my entire life she has influenced me in thoroughly beneficial ways.
She was never really herself since her husband died (they were married over sixty years, the last twenty he was in a chair due to a horseriding accident, and devoted to one another) and just like him she had a good death after a happy life.
So apart from the shock, well it could have been worse . . .she avoided the degradation and suffering which seem to be so common nowadays.
<snif>
Nicky - 16 May 2008 23:14 GMT ><snif> {{{{{{{Hugs}}}}}} Sounds like she was a cool lady, who'll obviously be missed.
Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
Michelle C - 17 May 2008 00:15 GMT Trink, it's wonderful you have so many special memories of your aunt. Thanks for sharing them. I'm sure she knew how much you loved her.
And I agree, if a person has to go, a quick death is the best way.
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>>> Some of you may remember I have an aunt who was recently told at 80 >>> she had the blood pressure of a thirty year old. Despite being quite [quoted text clipped - 99 lines] > > <snif> Alan S - 17 May 2008 02:13 GMT >Got the call this morning, she died. Thank you for letting us know Trink. I'm sure she knew how much you cared.
Alan, T2, Australia.
Cheri - 17 May 2008 04:03 GMT Alan S wrote in message ...
>>Got the call this morning, she died. > >Thank you for letting us know Trink. I'm sure she knew how >much you cared. > >Alan, T2, Australia. Yes, Trink, I have been wondering how it was going, so thanks for the update. Take care of yourself during this sad time, and best to you and your family.
Cheri
Nick Cramer - 17 May 2008 07:59 GMT > On 16 May 2008 05:17:34 GMT, Nick Cramer <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> > >> [ . . . ] I'm sorry to hear that your Aunt is gone, Trink, but I'm glad you have so many fond memories of her, so you can celebrate her life while you mourn her death. Along with my condolences, I send you my very best thoughts.
Take care.
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Trinkwasser - 18 May 2008 20:00 GMT >> On 16 May 2008 05:17:34 GMT, Nick Cramer <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> >> >> [ . . . ] > >I'm sorry to hear that your Aunt is gone, Trink, but I'm glad you have so >many fond memories of her, so you can celebrate her life while you mourn >her death. Along with my condolences, I send you my very best thoughts. I'm in two minds about going to her funeral, I believe she will be buried with her husband back where they used to live, and don't think either I or my mother could handle it. Motorways and crowds have become somewhat alien concepts. But we'll hoist a bottle of fine red wine in her general direction and play some blues.
Nick Cramer - 19 May 2008 04:31 GMT > On 17 May 2008 06:59:40 GMT, Nick Cramer <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> > >> On 16 May 2008 05:17:34 GMT, Nick Cramer <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > become somewhat alien concepts. But we'll hoist a bottle of fine red > wine in her general direction and play some blues. That's good, Trink. I think she'd appreciate that. IMO Funerals are for those who attend, more than the Dearly Departed.
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Trinkwasser - 19 May 2008 18:24 GMT >> On 17 May 2008 06:59:40 GMT, Nick Cramer <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> >> >> On 16 May 2008 05:17:34 GMT, Nick Cramer <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >That's good, Trink. I think she'd appreciate that. IMO Funerals are for >those who attend, more than the Dearly Departed. I had this conversation once with a colleague, he was a truck driver and always said he wanted a New Orleans style funeral where they went into the church playing blues and came out dancing.
Unfortunately he was killed rather nastily in an accident, and the actual funeral was one I don't think he'd have approved of at all. :(
I'm feeling like digging out some old Miles Davis but unfortunately my records are still in store.
Nicky - 16 May 2008 08:57 GMT >Too late, the damn thing ruptured last night and she's not expected to >survive. Hell! That's rotten : ( Although maybe worse for you than her?
Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 16 May 2008 18:59 GMT > Some of you may remember I have an aunt who was recently told at 80 > she had the blood pressure of a thirty year old. Despite being quite [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > same since he died and like me she always preferred the idea of > popping off quick rather than lingering. Just not quite yet <sigh>) You and your family have my condolences during this sad time for you.
May GOD bless you and yours in HIS mighty way, making you healthier (hungrier) than ever.
Prayerfully in the awesome name of LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <>< -- http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cd9918679e6b3d6f?
Michelle C - 17 May 2008 00:08 GMT I'm sorry about your aunt, Trink. Unfortunately, missed diagnoses are not only the realm of the NHS. It can happens here too.
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> Some of you may remember I have an aunt who was recently told at 80 > she had the blood pressure of a thirty year old. Despite being quite [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > same since he died and like me she always preferred the idea of > popping off quick rather than lingering. Just not quite yet <sigh>) Trinkwasser - 17 May 2008 14:53 GMT >I'm sorry about your aunt, Trink. Unfortunately, missed diagnoses are not >only the realm of the NHS. It can happens here too. It wasn't so much a missed diagnosis but a "we don't want to spend the money treating you"
Perhaps I should amend my previous comment, I should hack off the leg of the accountant who runs the doctors . . .
Laura@notmy.com - 17 May 2008 16:30 GMT >>I'm sorry about your aunt, Trink. Unfortunately, missed diagnoses are not >>only the realm of the NHS. It can happens here too. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Perhaps I should amend my previous comment, I should hack off the leg >of the accountant who runs the doctors . . . Hit 'em where it will really hurt....the fingers that punch keys of their all so powerful calculators and computer keyboards.
I'm sorry for your loss. I'm sure she knew how much you loved her and that the feeling was double in return.
Michelle C - 17 May 2008 18:05 GMT >>I'm sorry about your aunt, Trink. Unfortunately, missed diagnoses are not >>only the realm of the NHS. It can happens here too. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Perhaps I should amend my previous comment, I should hack off the leg > of the accountant who runs the doctors . . . Okay, *that* I understand.
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Nicky - 18 May 2008 08:50 GMT >Perhaps I should amend my previous comment, I should hack off the leg >of the accountant who runs the doctors . . . That would be a public service.
Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
Trinkwasser - 18 May 2008 20:02 GMT >>Perhaps I should amend my previous comment, I should hack off the leg >>of the accountant who runs the doctors . . . > >That would be a public service. Perhaps they will get diabetes from overindulging in their expense accounts and be denied test strips
trouble is the bastards all have private medical insurance so remain unaffected by the crap they inflict on the rest of us
Nick Cramer - 19 May 2008 04:40 GMT > On Sun, 18 May 2008 08:50:02 +0100, Nicky <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> > >On Sat, 17 May 2008 14:53:09 +0100, Trinkwasser
> >>Perhaps I should amend my previous comment, I should hack off the leg > >>of the accountant who runs the doctors . . . [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > trouble is the bastards all have private medical insurance so remain > unaffected by the crap they inflict on the rest of us With all due respect, and taking your current anger into consideration, herr Baron Trinkwasser, wishing this disease on anyone, including accountants and lawyers, is beneath your dignity.
On the other hand, hacking off his leg at the knee, with a chain saw has a certain poetic justice about it. ;-)
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Trinkwasser - 19 May 2008 18:20 GMT >> On Sun, 18 May 2008 08:50:02 +0100, Nicky <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> >> >On Sat, 17 May 2008 14:53:09 +0100, Trinkwasser [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >herr Baron Trinkwasser, wishing this disease on anyone, including >accountants and lawyers, is beneath your dignity. What's the difference between a lawyer and a leech?
One is a blood sucking bottom dweller, and the other is a leech.
Also applies to accountants. I should know I married one.
Yup I just wanted them to see things from the other side for a while.
>On the other hand, hacking off his leg at the knee, with a chain saw has a >certain poetic justice about it. ;-) s/chainsaw/hacksaw/
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