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Julie Bove - 15 May 2008 05:28 GMT
I asked the person I know where she gets her insulin in Canada?  She is not
store loyal and said "Any grocery store.  You don't need a prescription."
She also said she often gets it at Costco.  Said the prices were about the
same everywhere.
Tim Shoppa - 15 May 2008 15:05 GMT
> I asked the person I know where she gets her insulin in Canada?  She is not
> store loyal and said "Any grocery store.  You don't need a prescription."
> She also said she often gets it at Costco.  Said the prices were about the
> same everywhere.

The last time I was in Canada (2005), Lantus was completely
unavailable there. When I asked about it I was told "You have to drive
to the US to get it".

Regular and NPH were available OTC in Canada, at about the same price
as in the US.

Tim.
percy - 15 May 2008 15:57 GMT
>> I asked the person I know where she gets her insulin in Canada?  She is not
>> store loyal and said "Any grocery store.  You don't need a prescription."
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Tim.

It's approved now. Levemir is also available, but I'm not sure about Apidra.

All insulins are available in Canada without a prescription.

Vicki
Tiger_Lily - 15 May 2008 16:05 GMT
>> I asked the person I know where she gets her insulin in Canada?  She is not
>> store loyal and said "Any grocery store.  You don't need a prescription."
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Tim.
Lantus and Levemir are available in Canada now

Januvia, Symlin, Byetta are not available yet

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Dennis - 15 May 2008 23:15 GMT
> >> I asked the person I know where she gets her insulin in Canada?  She is not
> >> store loyal and said "Any grocery store.  You don't need a prescription."
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Januvia, Symlin, Byetta are not available yet

Kate would know better Julie. I take NPH at night time to knock down my
wake up numbers, but I use the Novo 3 ml Pen. Since I am on a drug plan,
I never checked if NPH was OTC. My cost at Shoppers' Drug Mart
(Ontario), including an $11 dispensing fee, is about $56 CAN for a 5 x
3ml pack of penfills. In other words, the NPH cost $45.

I know that is expensive compared to vials and syringes, but I pay less
than $10 co-pay per script, and they encouraged pens at the Diabetes
Clinic in town when I was diagnosed.

Dennis (Type 2)
Julie Bove - 15 May 2008 23:25 GMT
>> >> I asked the person I know where she gets her insulin in Canada?  She
>> >> is not
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> Dennis (Type 2)

Sorry.  Maybe I addressed the wrong person.  I thought it was you who was
asking the question, but it wouldn't be you since you are Canadian.  Now I
don't know WHO asked!  Oops!
Laura@notmy.com - 16 May 2008 02:27 GMT
>Since I am on a drug plan,
>I never checked if NPH was OTC. My cost at Shoppers' Drug Mart
>(Ontario), including an $11 dispensing fee, is about $56 CAN for a 5 x
>3ml pack of penfills. In other words, the NPH cost $45.

A dispensing fee?  Is this a mail prescription program -- I was
assuming that this was through a store.  I don't think I've ever heard
of a fee for dispensing medication.  I'm not from Canada, so this is a
brand new concept to me.  Or is it possibly a membership club that
allows non-members to purchase items, but then they tack on a
"non-member surcharge".
Julie Bove - 16 May 2008 03:23 GMT
>>Since I am on a drug plan,
>>I never checked if NPH was OTC. My cost at Shoppers' Drug Mart
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> allows non-members to purchase items, but then they tack on a
> "non-member surcharge".

We used to have Shopper's Drugmart here, but it wasn't a member place.  Just
a regular drugstore with really good prices and good variety.
MI - 16 May 2008 04:05 GMT
On 5/15/08 7:23 PM, in article oe6Xj.16312$6D1.8071@trndny02, "Julie Bove"
<juliebove@verizon.net> wrote:

>>> Since I am on a drug plan,
>>> I never checked if NPH was OTC. My cost at Shoppers' Drug Mart
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> We used to have Shopper's Drugmart here, but it wasn't a member place.  Just
> a regular drugstore with really good prices and good variety.

I don't think it is the same chain. This is a national firm and I don't
think they are in the US. I could be wrong.

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1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia

Julie Bove - 16 May 2008 04:11 GMT
> On 5/15/08 7:23 PM, in article oe6Xj.16312$6D1.8071@trndny02, "Julie Bove"
> <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> I don't think it is the same chain. This is a national firm and I don't
> think they are in the US. I could be wrong.

There aren't any here any more.  They used to advertise "Savings so much
you'll need a shopping cart!"
MI - 16 May 2008 04:03 GMT
On 5/15/08 6:27 PM, in article 1jop241l8ibesvupjmauqb7d6ku43jgveu@4ax.com,

>> Since I am on a drug plan,
>> I never checked if NPH was OTC. My cost at Shoppers' Drug Mart
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> allows non-members to purchase items, but then they tack on a
> "non-member surcharge".

I can only speak for British Columbia. Here the pharmacies are required to
sell the prescription at their cost. To this they add a dispensing fee which
covers overhead and profit. My pharmacy charges $8.95.
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1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia

Tiger_Lily - 16 May 2008 04:17 GMT
>> Since I am on a drug plan,
>> I never checked if NPH was OTC. My cost at Shoppers' Drug Mart
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> allows non-members to purchase items, but then they tack on a
> "non-member surcharge".
nope

in Canada, all pharmacies add on a 'service charge' or 'dispensing fee'
that is a % of the total drug cost

my insurance pays for the med but not the dispensing fee

this means my meds cost anywhere from $10.22 (min) to $45.XX

thank goodness i don't have more expensive meds

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kate
type 1 since 1987
www.diabetic-talk.org
http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/newly%20diagnosed.html

Oleg Lego - 16 May 2008 04:41 GMT
>>Since I am on a drug plan,
>>I never checked if NPH was OTC. My cost at Shoppers' Drug Mart
>>(Ontario), including an $11 dispensing fee, is about $56 CAN for a 5 x
>>3ml pack of penfills. In other words, the NPH cost $45.
>
>A dispensing fee?

All Canadian pharmacies charge a dispensing fee. In some provinces,
they are required to itemize it separately on the bottle or box label,
while in other provinces, it is not shown separately, In Saskatchewan,
it is not shown separately, and in fact, the price is not on the label
itself, but is on the receipt.

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Tiger_Lily - 16 May 2008 04:15 GMT
>>>> I asked the person I know where she gets her insulin in Canada?  She is not
>>>> store loyal and said "Any grocery store.  You don't need a prescription."
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> Dennis (Type 2)
my co-pay for levemir OR humalog is more than your co-pay is

i trust you are using insurance to get your insulin?

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type 1 since 1987
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http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/newly%20diagnosed.html

Tiger_Lily - 15 May 2008 16:04 GMT
> I asked the person I know where she gets her insulin in Canada?  She is not
> store loyal and said "Any grocery store.  You don't need a prescription."
> She also said she often gets it at Costco.  Said the prices were about the
> same everywhere.

you don't need a CostCo membership card to access their pharmacy

and their prices are about the lowest prices for meds that i have found

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kate
type 1 since 1987
www.diabetic-talk.org
http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/newly%20diagnosed.html

Wally - 18 May 2008 07:45 GMT
>I asked the person I know where she gets her insulin in Canada?  She is not
>store loyal and said "Any grocery store.  You don't need a prescription."
>She also said she often gets it at Costco.  Said the prices were about the
>same everywhere.

While there is no prescription needed they will question you if you
are buying insulin...actually no prescription needed is a
misunderstanding because it is the pharmacist that prescribes it.

Wallywogs
email me at NOSPAM-wallywogs@gmail.com

T2 since 2002

Lantus 30 units Started March 11, 2008
NovoRapid 10 units before meals Started April 22, 2008
Diamicron MR 30 mg (Gliclazide) 2 am/2 pm
Metformin 500mg 2 am/1 lunch/1 supper
Julie Bove - 18 May 2008 07:53 GMT
>>I asked the person I know where she gets her insulin in Canada?  She is
>>not
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> are buying insulin...actually no prescription needed is a
> misunderstanding because it is the pharmacist that prescribes it.

Huh?  Here, only a Dr. can prescribe.
Oleg Lego - 18 May 2008 16:28 GMT
>>>I asked the person I know where she gets her insulin in Canada?  She is
>>>not
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>Huh?  Here, only a Dr. can prescribe.

Different country, different laws and customs. I mentioned before that
I was told by a pharmacist that I could buy strips without a
prescription. When I mentioned I would need the prescription for
insurance purposes, She said she could write the prescription.

It's for certain things only, though. My doctor made a mistake on the
prescription he wrote for ramipril. He was supposed to increase the
dosage. When I went to get it filled, I caught the error and asked the
pharmacist to double-check the size. She had filled it according to
what the doctor wrote, but had to contact the doc to get it changed.

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MI - 18 May 2008 20:04 GMT
On 5/17/08 11:53 PM, in article BnQXj.1154$pk1.280@trndny07, "Julie Bove"
<juliebove@verizon.net> wrote:

>>> I asked the person I know where she gets her insulin in Canada?  She is
>>> not
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Huh?  Here, only a Dr. can prescribe.

Very limited. They can prescribe test strips too.

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