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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / May 2008Did Anyone Here Have a Hypo at Walgreens?
Not a very edifying report on Walgreens response to an emergency: http://tinyurl.com/59xbrk or http://www.myfoxny.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=358DBB76C0FF429E4BC63B AFFC3535C3?contentId=6470886&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1 &sflg=1 For those who don't have broadband this is a synopsis: On May 5 An elderly lady waiting in the queue of Walgreen's in New Jersy at the checkout had a hypo. A nurse in the queue grabbed some sugar and some OJ off the shelf and a guy from the Sherrif's department in the queue grabbed a glucometer. Between them they gave correct emergency treatment for the hypo (IMO). In the meantime a 911 call had been placed and an ambulance arrived and the woman was whisked off to the hospital with the glucometer. No-one on the scene got her name or details. After that the Walgreen's manager aggressively demanded that one of the heroes pay for the glucometer and the goods. When they protested he said he would then consider the goods stolen and have them charged with theft and possibly arrested. The nurse eventually gave in to his pressure and paid $17.99 for the glucometer, but not the OJ or sugar. Later, after several attempts to contact Walgreens customer service for an apology or explanation the TV news people were contacted. They interviewed, or attempted to, the manager. He was remarkably unsympathetic; the subsequent Walgreen's response took his side. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Latest:What to Eat Until You Get Your Meter. and Cambodia http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html Alan S wrote in message ... >Not a very edifying report on Walgreens response to an >emergency: > >http://tinyurl.com/59xbrk or >http://www.myfoxny.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=358DBB76C0FF429E4BC63B AFFC3535C3?contentId=6470886&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutC ode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1 >For those who don't have broadband this is a synopsis: > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >manager. He was remarkably unsympathetic; the subsequent >Walgreen's response took his side. I hate Walgreen's. The prescription service at the store near me has always been terrible, and they hardly ever have what they advertise. If you complain, they say that they are not responsible for what is listed in the ads, since the ads are made somewhere in the midwest. Get a raincheck? Not likely to ever stock it in your natural life span. Cheri > I hate Walgreen's. The prescription service at the store near me has > always been terrible, and they hardly ever have what they advertise. > If you complain, they say that they are not responsible for what is > listed in the ads, since the ads are made somewhere in the midwest. > Get a raincheck? Not likely to ever stock it in your natural life > span. What I hate is that they do multiple pricing on so many items. For instance, something will be 2/$5.00. You'd think one of those items would be $2.50. But no! A single one will be like $2.79. Invariably what happens to me is I either need only one, or I could use two of them but they will not have two in the store. They will have only one. They also didn't have any control solution for my meter and refused to order me any. I do go there sometimes though. They do carry some things that the other drug stores in this area do not. Like certain kids OTC meds. Julie Bove wrote in message ... >> I hate Walgreen's. The prescription service at the store near me has >> always been terrible, and they hardly ever have what they advertise. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >happens to me is I either need only one, or I could use two of them but they >will not have two in the store. They will have only one. Yes, that's a favorite trick, as well as limiting a sale item to one or two of the products. Also, when they have clearance sales after holidays, they put all the stuff on one shelf, and invariably if you choose to buy it, that item isn't on clearance. I live next door to them, so I will go there occasionally for something that I need it in a hurry, but otherwise, I avoid them at all costs. Cheri >Julie Bove wrote in message ... >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >Cheri When you buy meds it will be proper to count the number of pills etc. At several bucks a pill it is easy to profit from theft. It is best to have a witness when you open and count them. ----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- guys@consolidated.net wrote in message >When you buy meds it will be proper to count the number of >pills etc. At several bucks a pill it is easy to profit from >theft. It is best to have a witness when you open and count them. Yes, I've heard that problem is getting bigger all the time, shorting pills could translate into big money for pharmacies. I would always count them now. Hope your burns are doing better today Guy. :-) Cheri > guys@consolidated.net wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > pills could translate into big money for pharmacies. I would always > count them now. Hope your burns are doing better today Guy. :-) I am so glad our pills come in blister packs and with some pills they have days of the week printed near each pill. >> guys@consolidated.net wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I am so glad our pills come in blister packs and with some pills they have > days of the week printed near each pill. I would hate that. I have trouble getting pills out of blister packs. >>> guys@consolidated.net wrote in message >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I would hate that. I have trouble getting pills out of blister packs. Ours are thin bits of foil covering the pills which sit in a stifff'ish plastic shell. When you push the pill upwards towards the foil the foil breaks very easily. >>>> guys@consolidated.net wrote in message >>>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > plastic shell. When you push the pill upwards towards the foil the foil > breaks very easily. Most of the ones here have a piece you are supposed to peel from the back, but it never wants to peel. Or if they are the kind like you describe, the pills never push through without piercing the foil. This invariably winds up scratching or nicking the pill and it doesn't come out intact. Plus it's a pain to have to pop out all those pills to put in my weekly container. Julie Bove wrote in message ... >Most of the ones here have a piece you are supposed to peel from the back, >but it never wants to peel. Or if they are the kind like you describe, the >pills never push through without piercing the foil. This invariably winds >up scratching or nicking the pill and it doesn't come out intact. Plus it's >a pain to have to pop out all those pills to put in my weekly container. True, and some of the extended release pills specifically say do not break, crush, or cut, and then they break coming out of the blister pack. Arrgh. Cheri Julie Bove wrote in message ... >>> guys@consolidated.net wrote in message >>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >I would hate that. I have trouble getting pills out of blister packs. I hate blister packs too. Cheri >> I have trouble getting pills out of blister packs. > > I hate blister packs too. > > Cheri So do I. Sometimes I don't push hard enough (once I manage to get the peel-off strip off), so I push harder, then the pill pops out & I get some exercise crawling around to find it on the floor. Some are in super-tamper-resistant paks, too! Fosamax -- aimed at an *aging* population -- is particularly hard. I'm hoping (without much "hope") that the generic it's now just come out in will be packaged in a more patient-friendly fashion. Unfortunately I don't have a small child around to help me get into my child-resistant containers. I keep tools in the bathroom to break into things. bj bj wrote in message ...speaking of blister packaging >So do I. >Sometimes I don't push hard enough (once I manage to get the peel-off strip [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >things. >bj I do not understand the thinking on that kind of packaging, so I can only conclude that there is no rational thinking, and the main factor is cheaper packaging for the manufacturer and to Hell with the consumer. :-) Cheri >bj wrote in message ...speaking of blister packaging > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >is cheaper packaging for the manufacturer and to Hell with the >consumer. :-) Our stuff nearly all comes in blister packs and they're usually easy to operate. So it can be done. Getting DVD-RAMs out of the shrinkwrap now, that's another matter (I had a shrinkwrapped chicken the other day too) >>> I have trouble getting pills out of blister packs. >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > child-resistant containers. I keep tools in the bathroom to break into > things. Why is it small children are the only ones who can open child resistant containers with ease? Angela has been opening my pills for me since she was about 2. Luckily she hates pills so has never been tempted to eat them. My pharmacy gives you the option of non child proof containers. I don't know why they do though because even if you say you want the plain kind, you don't get them! >>>> I have trouble getting pills out of blister packs. >>> I hate blister packs too. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > why they do though because even if you say you want the plain kind, you > don't get them! my pharmacy questioned me about NOT having child resistant containers then they questioned me again when i went to pick them up i haven't had another question, nor a child resistant container again  Signaturekate type 1 since 1987 www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/newly%20diagnosed.html On 5/14/08 1:39 PM, in article h6IWj.3377$xr1.2679@trndny04, "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote: >>>> I have trouble getting pills out of blister packs. >>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > why they do though because even if you say you want the plain kind, you > don't get them! Myi pharmacy does. It even says on the bottom of the receipt---no childproof caps. SignatureMartha T2 Canada 1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia >>>> I have trouble getting pills out of blister packs. >>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > don't know why they do though because even if you say you want the plain > kind, you don't get them! Maybe they don't think that the plain kind refers to non child proof containers. >>>>> I have trouble getting pills out of blister packs. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Maybe they don't think that the plain kind refers to non child proof > containers. Maybe. : Some are in super-tamper-resistant paks, too! Fosamax -- aimed at an *aging* : population -- is particularly hard. I'm hoping (without much "hope") that : the generic it's now just come out in will be packaged in a more : patient-friendly fashion. Sorry, the pack seems to be identical to the Fossemax design. I may possibly be easier to get them out, but I only had a few samples of the non-generic before it came out. Wendy > >Some are in super-tamper-resistant paks, too! Fosamax -- aimed at an > >*aging* population -- is particularly hard. I'm hoping (without much > >"hope") that the generic it's now just come out in will be packaged in a > >more patient-friendly fashion. > Sorry, the pack seems to be identical to the Fossemax design. It may > possibly be easier to get them out, but I only had a few samples of the > non-generic before it came out. > > Wendy <sigh> At least the bottle of Vit. D is screw-top. bj >>> I am so glad our pills come in blister packs and with some pills >they have [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Cheri Never had a problem with them. Including the ones I bought while travelling. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Latest:What to Eat Until You Get Your Meter. Angkor Wat http://loraltravel.blogspot.com > Julie Bove wrote in message ... >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > I hate blister packs too. Yours must be different to ours then. They are so simple and easy to pop that a baby could do it with one hand whilst blind folded :) 1. We don't have to pull back any backing first. >> Julie Bove wrote in message ... >>> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > that a baby could do it with one hand whilst blind folded :) 1. We don't > have to pull back any backing first. I think they are trying to make them so a kid can't accidentally get into them. > "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote in message > >> Julie Bove wrote in message ... [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > I think they are trying to make them so a kid can't accidentally get into > them. Yes. They've become adult-proof! I have to keep a razor blade handy to open some of them. SignatureNick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families! I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~ >> I think they are trying to make them so a kid can't accidentally get into >> them. > > Yes. They've become adult-proof! I have to keep a razor blade handy to > open some of them. I recently bought some Black & Decker scissors that are promoted "to get open those plastic paks" -- *they* came in a plastic pak with an *easy open feature*!!! If such a feature is available, why don't more manufacturers use it? They can't all be in cahoots with B&D. bj >>> I think they are trying to make them so a kid can't accidentally get >>> into [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > use > it? They can't all be in cahoots with B&D. I think sometimes they do it so customers can't open the product in the store, and/or steal the item if it is a small one. That packaging is a royal pain though. >I think sometimes they do it so customers can't open the product in the >store, and/or steal the item if it is a small one. That packaging is a >royal pain though. it's done for two reasons, child safety and "tamper proof before purchase", remember the Tylenol poisonings? SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/type1and2/ http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" http://www.ratbags.com/dechunging/ "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . >>I think sometimes they do it so customers can't open the product in the >>store, and/or steal the item if it is a small one. That packaging is a >>royal pain though. > > it's done for two reasons, child safety and "tamper proof before > purchase", remember the Tylenol poisonings? Yeah, but there's a lot of territory between those safety reasons and "Warning: customer risks injury when opening, if you can get it open at all. Suggest wearing protective equipment, gloves, and using tools." bj bj wrote in message ... >>>I think sometimes they do it so customers can't open the product in the >>>store, and/or steal the item if it is a small one. That packaging is a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Suggest wearing protective equipment, gloves, and using tools." >bj Yes, and who the Hell is going to tamper with a pair of pliers or any of those tools that are packaged like that. Some things do not need that packaging, while others may. I try not to buy items packaged like that, but sometimes you have to. :-) Cheri >bj wrote in message ... >>> On Thu, 15 May 2008 15:57:19 GMT, "Julie Bove" [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >Cheri I thought ya'll were talking about meds. but deterring shoplifting is just as valid. Can't open them easily, means you can't remove the anti theft devices when they are being used. Others make it easier to catch the bastards at the door, even with the electronic tags, that was yours before entering the store? you always travel with a large unopened plastic container with a brand new item in it stuffed into pants, up your dress, under your bra? sure you do. SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/type1and2/ http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" http://www.ratbags.com/dechunging/ "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . Màck©® wrote in message ... >>bj wrote in message ... >>>> On Thu, 15 May 2008 15:57:19 GMT, "Julie Bove" [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >new item in it stuffed into pants, up your dress, under your bra? sure >you do. Obviously, you don't buy sewing needles, thread, screws, and little packages like that. Those are often packaged in that ridiculous way too. Christ, how many people steal wax toilet rings and things like that. The packaging on some of them are just silly, and while I'm at it, what's with buying a large package of paper towels all wrapped in plastic, then the individual rolls are wrapped in plastic inside the large plastic wrap. Geez. :-) Cheri > Obviously, you don't buy sewing needles, thread, screws, and little > packages like that. Those are often packaged in that ridiculous way [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > plastic, then the individual rolls are wrapped in plastic inside the > large plastic wrap. Geez. :-) My latest problem was a ratcheting screwdriver. Some of the bits were stored in the handle, but the other half of the bits were stored in a plastic thingie that fits around the screwing shaft or whatever you call it. It was connected on there tightly by a thick plastic piece. The instructions said to cut it off with scissors. I nearly cut my finger off trying to cut through the really thick plastic. And then it left this sharp little nub. Julie Bove wrote in message ... >> Obviously, you don't buy sewing needles, thread, screws, and little >> packages like that. Those are often packaged in that ridiculous way [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >trying to cut through the really thick plastic. And then it left this sharp >little nub. I hear you Julie. My worst problem was a package of the Ginsu type knives. It was very dangerous to open without getting cut, as it was, I ended up stabbing myself in the palm, and to make it worse, I didn't take the opportunity to test. LOL Cheri >Obviously, you don't buy sewing needles, thread, screws, and little >packages like that. Those are often packaged in that ridiculous way [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Cheri you'd be surprised at what shoplifters will steal. SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/type1and2/ http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" http://www.ratbags.com/dechunging/ "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . >>Obviously, you don't buy sewing needles, thread, screws, and little >>packages like that. Those are often packaged in that ridiculous way [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > you'd be surprised at what shoplifters will steal. Anything they can. >>>Obviously, you don't buy sewing needles, thread, screws, and little >>>packages like that. Those are often packaged in that ridiculous way [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Anything they can. And just one more example of the rest of us having to deal with another PITA because of a small percentage of the population. I'd like to think the "good guys" out number the thieves, but I've been told several times in the past few months that companies just assume everyone is out to rip them off and act accordingly. I told one guy it was a good thing I wasn't going to be doing business with him anymore. I mean, if I'm going to be called a thief, I might as well earn the title. BlueBrooke wrote in message ... >And just one more example of the rest of us having to deal with >another PITA because of a small percentage of the population. I'd [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >with him anymore. I mean, if I'm going to be called a thief, I might >as well earn the title. Good answer BB. :-) Cheri >>>>Obviously, you don't buy sewing needles, thread, screws, and little >>>>packages like that. Those are often packaged in that ridiculous way [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >with him anymore. I mean, if I'm going to be called a thief, I might >as well earn the title. Yup that's exactly how I feel about eg. doctors who assume I'm going to rip them off by ordering too many drugs, or fuckwits who assume I must be a pedophile because I'm trying to photograph seabirds on a beach . . . apparently soon I won't be able to take photographs at the local nature reserve because it's overlooked by a stonking great noocular reactor - of which you can get amazingly detailed satellite photos from Multimap, Google Earth, Worldwind etc. etc. Once long ago and way back when records were big round black things a "security guard" insisted on confiscating my shopping before letting me into the shop, I told him he wasn't getting it becuase I didn;t trust him not to steal it. And went to a different shop. >>And just one more example of the rest of us having to deal with >>another PITA because of a small percentage of the population. I'd [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >noocular reactor - of which you can get amazingly detailed satellite >photos from Multimap, Google Earth, Worldwind etc. etc. Yeah -- consistency and common sense would be refreshing! >Once long ago and way back when records were big round black things a >"security guard" insisted on confiscating my shopping before letting >me into the shop, I told him he wasn't getting it becuase I didn;t >trust him not to steal it. And went to a different shop. Nice one. (1) Once upon a time, when I got my first apartment (back when the earth was cooling) I spent a couple of hours, at least, in K-Mart getting lamps, sheets, dishes -- stuff like that. When it came time to check out, they wouldn't take my check. I told the manager I was pretty irritated to be treated that way, especially since they could verify the funds and I'd spent so much time picking the stuff out. He said, "We know -- we've been watching you" and approved the check. I guess it would have been okay if I had been dashing about in a hurry grabbing stuff. (2) My ISP had a billing glitch in January. It was a big mess (and after typing this a couple of times I've deleted all of the whining and minute details to get to the point). I ended up having quite an animated conversation with the owner and he told me that they just assume everyone is lying to them ("the check is in the mail -- yeah, right") and that my payment history, where I send them $100 payments *in advance* made it look like I was always *in arrears* but no one bothered to actually *read* to see I was consistently, for the past ten years, carrying a credit balance with them. So he admitted (after the problem was resolved) that before he even picked up the phone he thought I was a flake, a liar and a cheat. Since they are, basically, the only game in town, I still have an account with them, but I did cancel the one I had for my son. >>>And just one more example of the rest of us having to deal with >>>another PITA because of a small percentage of the population. I'd [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Yeah -- consistency and common sense would be refreshing! I forgot to mention the article on the TV news stating that police would be patrolling beaches confiscating cameras "in case" people were photographing children. The news item was run against stock footage of children playing on beaches. This was done entirely without irony. Meanwhile we have more CCTV per head of population than any dictatorship. Which would be good if they caught more criminals. Meanwhile I was toying with putting a webcam on the back of the house to look at the view. But apparently if Dave or one of his contractors goes into the field on his tractor I would be breaking the law to film him. >>Once long ago and way back when records were big round black things a >>"security guard" insisted on confiscating my shopping before letting [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >guess it would have been okay if I had been dashing about in a hurry >grabbing stuff. OMG deja vu! Once I spent some while walking round a store looking at a few things I wanted to buy, including a VAX (not the DEC microcomputer, a vacuum cleaner) and something else equally expensive. A couple of staff seemed to be following me around but ignoring me whenever I tried to speak to them about my potential purchases. I wrote the manager explaining why I had taken my business elsewhere. >(2) My ISP had a billing glitch in January. It was a big mess (and >after typing this a couple of times I've deleted all of the whining [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >the only game in town, I still have an account with them, but I did >cancel the one I had for my son. I'm currently battling DHL, so far without success. I *thought* I'd paid their bill nearly a year ago and since they have a reputation for chasing non-existent debts I ignored the first few demands. It turned out that I *hadn't* paid, so I did, enclosing a letter of apology. They are still hounding me for payment which I now believe I *did* send originally and they didn't cash. The second time I have proof they did in fact cash the cheque. Hasn't stopped them hounding me though. I used to work in industry where suppliers naturally had to think in terms of repeat business. One particularly unpleasant stationary supplier was threatening us with court action over a bill for a few pounds which hadn't been paid because we rejected the items. They ended up losing thousand of pounds worth of business, and not just from us, I discussed such things with many of my suppliers (and the sales department passed on the word to many of their customers) whenever this sort of thing happened, and this often turned up many stories about the same suppliers - including someone who knew a lawyer who was on permanent retainer to them doing such nuisance prosecutions - unfortunately as a "public" it's not so easy to hear of or get word out about such behaviours, but I do my best only to deal with and recommend suppliers whose business practices are above reproach. They do still exist, and it's a real pleasure to live in such a delightfully old-fashioned place where I have been known to go into a shop, discover I left my wallet at home and be allowed to take the stuff home and pay for it later. On 5/18/08 1:05 PM, in article vr1134d00m3kc6sorovoaf2jv1hn5f70i3@4ax.com, >>>> And just one more example of the rest of us having to deal with >>>> another PITA because of a small percentage of the population. I'd [quoted text clipped - 100 lines] > shop, discover I left my wallet at home and be allowed to take the > stuff home and pay for it later. Several years ago I had a boss who instilled into us the importance of keeping our clients happy. He always said that if a client was happy they would tell 3 friends; if they weren't they would tell 11. Your story of the stationer illustrates this philosophy very well. SignatureMartha T2 Canada 1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia >Several years ago I had a boss who instilled into us the importance of >keeping our clients happy. He always said that if a client was happy they >would tell 3 friends; if they weren't they would tell 11. Your story of the >stationer illustrates this philosophy very well. Sadly a dying breed in the modern world. :( I used to subcontract a lot of work, the guys I used were seldom the cheapest but always the least costly - a distinction I could never get across to the accountants. Compare and contrast, I wanted to put a job out to a particular firm who had the kit to do it and the nous to do it quickly and to spec, and who'd helped me out of a hole on numerous occasions (for which I'd sent him further business from other companies). Got overruled and the job was put out to the cheapest tender. As I feared they screwed up and wrecked the castings. Which were on a 13 week lead time from the foundry. Customer with very expensive plant laid up was NOT amused. Which might just conceivably explain why a once world leading business is now a mere shadow of its former self and has changed hands more often than a tired whore in the Oval Office The managers/accountants involved may well by now have gone on to wreck further businesses. They may even be working for the NHS . . . >>>>>Obviously, you don't buy sewing needles, thread, screws, and little >>>>>packages like that. Those are often packaged in that ridiculous way [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >Yup that's exactly how I feel about eg. doctors who assume I'm going >to rip them off by ordering too many drugs, your doctor should only need to write a script for what you need each month, or every 3 months if you get them via mail order insurance. If you ask for more than what you need, he should suspect you. Unless it's something like test strips that only come in 50 or 100 packs, then he needs to round up on the script when ever needed so you don't run short. >or fuckwits who assume I >must be a pedophile because I'm trying to photograph seabirds on a >beach Get business cards made up with your info on it. Anyone has any questions give them one. I always give my name and number and let anyone who wants to see my drivers license when I am out taking photos at the beach or any place where there are kids playing, even though I don't take photos of the kids. Since I am not doing anything wrong, I have nothing to hide. > . . . apparently soon I won't be able to take photographs at the >local nature reserve because it's overlooked by a stonking great >noocular reactor - of which you can get amazingly detailed satellite >photos from Multimap, Google Earth, Worldwind etc. etc. Try taking photos from outside the fence at any shipyard doing navy work. You'll find yourself stopped, and interrogated real quick. Answer the questions calmly and move on without argument when asked to do so and no one will bother you. Terrorist cells have been proven to case their targets, taking photos and recording patrol schedules etc. How quick will you complain about lax security if that facility were actually hit by a terrorist? >Once long ago and way back when records were big round black things a >"security guard" insisted on confiscating my shopping before letting >me into the shop, I told him he wasn't getting it becuase I didn;t >trust him not to steal it. And went to a different shop. He was following his stores policy, so you take it out on the guy doing his job instead of discussing it with a store manager? You know you made no impact on the guard or the store except to make them suspicious of you if you ever returned? SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/type1and2/ http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" http://www.ratbags.com/dechunging/ "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . >>Once long ago and way back when records were big round black things a >>"security guard" insisted on confiscating my shopping before letting [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >You know you made no impact on the guard or the store except to make >them suspicious of you if you ever returned? Well I used to buy quite a lot of records and they didn't get ANY of the money. Nice Mr Branson as I recall . . . the other record shops were much more user-friendly so they got my business. And I wasn't the only one. >Get business cards made up with your info on it. Anyone has any >questions give them one. I always give my name and number and let >anyone who wants to see my drivers license when I am out taking photos >at the beach or any place where there are kids playing, even though I >don't take photos of the kids. Since I am not doing anything wrong, I >have nothing to hide. I had a problem a couple of years ago. I was taking photos over the road of my creek. As is often the case there were kids swimming in it. Similar to this: http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/1866/743898446686891/1600/2006_0129Raftrace0 004B.jpg Ten minutes later I was back in the house when a neighbour from four doors down angrily appeared on my doorstep haranguing me for taking photos of his kids. I tried to tell him they were pix of the creek which happened to have kids in them but he wouldn't listen. So, after telling him he was welcome to inspect the photos on development (film camera) I told him to go home and cool off or to call the cops - whichever he preferred - but that if he trespassed on my doorstep ten seconds longer I'd call the cops and save him the trouble. He went. Moron. Thankfully, he moved a few months later. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Latest:What to Eat Until You Get Your Meter. Angkor Wat http://loraltravel.blogspot.com >>Get business cards made up with your info on it. Anyone has any >>questions give them one. I always give my name and number and let [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > >Thankfully, he moved a few months later. <Paul Hogan> THAT'S not kitty-pr0n, THIS is kitty-pr0n </Paul Hogan> (link to clothing catalogue deleted) I wonder how many man-hours the FBI are spending on this thread we're all on their database now >>>> I think they are trying to make them so a kid can't accidentally get >>>> into [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >store, and/or steal the item if it is a small one. That packaging is a >royal pain though. Home Hardware, a Canadian hardware store chain or franchise, sells a little gizmo for about 10 bucks. It's called the Safe-Cut Package opener, and its only purpose is to open blister packs, CDs, etc. Looks like a good idea. It's the second item on http://www.mordenhomehardware.ca/ Signatureroses are #FF0000 violets are #0000FF all my base are belong to you >>I think sometimes they do it so customers can't open the product in the >>store, and/or steal the item if it is a small one. That packaging is a >>royal pain though. > Home Hardware, a Canadian hardware store chain or franchise, sells a > little gizmo for about 10 bucks. It's called the Safe-Cut Package > opener, and its only purpose is to open blister packs, CDs, etc. Looks > like a good idea. > It's the second item on http://www.mordenhomehardware.ca/ There are quite a number of handy household gadgets and gizmos like that which I find I don't need because I carry around one of mankind's earliest and most useful inventions -- a sharp knife. SignatureChris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/] >>>I think sometimes they do it so customers can't open the product in the >>>store, and/or steal the item if it is a small one. That packaging is a [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >that which I find I don't need because I carry around one of mankind's >earliest and most useful inventions -- a sharp knife. Agreed, but items like the one I mentioned are very useful and much safer for those who can't, for one reason or another, use a sharp knife without the risk of injury. Signatureroses are #FF0000 violets are #0000FF all my base are belong to you Oleg Lego wrote in message ... >>>>I think sometimes they do it so customers can't open the product in the >>>>store, and/or steal the item if it is a small one. That packaging is a [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >safer for those who can't, for one reason or another, use a sharp >knife without the risk of injury. I was just reading in the paper that thieves were cutting open packages at our local Target Store and stealing merchandise. I wonder if they had a gadget or a knife. :-) Cheri > I was just reading in the paper that thieves were cutting open > packages at our local Target Store and stealing merchandise. I wonder > if they had a gadget or a knife. :-) That wouldn't surprise me one bit! >> I was just reading in the paper that thieves were cutting open >> packages at our local Target Store and stealing merchandise. I wonder >> if they had a gadget or a knife. :-) > >That wouldn't surprise me one bit! and they always deny stealing it, claiming it was theirs and they brought it in, until they are shown themselves on video stealing it. SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/type1and2/ http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" http://www.ratbags.com/dechunging/ "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . >>>>I think sometimes they do it so customers can't open the product in the >>>>store, and/or steal the item if it is a small one. That packaging is a [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >>that which I find I don't need because I carry around one of mankind's >>earliest and most useful inventions -- a sharp knife. > Agreed, but items like the one I mentioned are very useful and much > safer for those who can't, for one reason or another, use a sharp > knife without the risk of injury. Unfortunately increasing numbers of people can't use sharp knives today simply because they're ignorant. When people did more of their own food preparation in the kitchen every kitchen had a few sharp knives and every cook knew how to use them. I find today I have to keep my sharp kitchen knives labelled and kept away from public view, lest some guest who wants to be helpful and cut up some vegetables or do the washing up injures themselves. SignatureChris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/] >>>>>I think sometimes they do it so customers can't open the product in the >>>>>store, and/or steal the item if it is a small one. That packaging is a [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >lest some guest who wants to be helpful and cut up some vegetables >or do the washing up injures themselves. You'd need to write up a Risk Assessment. Curiously the bluntest knives I ever had the misfortune to use belonged to a professional chef. Oleg Lego wrote in message >Home Hardware, a Canadian hardware store chain or franchise, sells a >little gizmo for about 10 bucks. It's called the Safe-Cut Package >opener, and its only purpose is to open blister packs, CDs, etc. Looks >like a good idea. I imagine they do a thriving business with the thieves then? ;-) Cheri > Oleg Lego wrote in message >> Home Hardware, a Canadian hardware store chain or franchise, sells a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Cheri I stick to kitchen shears. I don't like unitaskers, as Alton Brown would say. Besides, those little gadgets are 10 bucks for about 75 cents worth of product. Vicki >> I recently bought some Black & Decker scissors that are promoted "to get >> open those plastic paks" -- *they* came in a plastic pak with an *easy [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >store, and/or steal the item if it is a small one. That packaging is a >royal pain though. As for the theft protection reason for some of these product packages, does anyone else find it sad that in many stores they have to keep certain types of shaving razor blades in a locked case because they are apparently a hot item to steal. (they cost a small fortune too!) >>> I recently bought some Black & Decker scissors that are promoted "to get >>> open those plastic paks" -- *they* came in a plastic pak with an *easy [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > certain types of shaving razor blades in a locked case because they > are apparently a hot item to steal. (they cost a small fortune too!) When I lived in Alameda, I had trouble buying baby formula. I was told the powdered kind was stolen to cut drugs with. >When I lived in Alameda, I had trouble buying baby formula. I was told the >powdered kind was stolen to cut drugs with. Wow. Thanks for that. I couldn't figure out why the local wal-mart locked the stuff up in a glass case. I just figured it was ripe for theft -- they lock up the liquid form also. >>When I lived in Alameda, I had trouble buying baby formula. I was told >>the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > locked the stuff up in a glass case. I just figured it was ripe for > theft -- they lock up the liquid form also. I suppose some people might steal it for their babies. When I worked at K Mart we had a lot of diapers stolen. They wouldn't steal the whole package, but just a few at a time. It got so bad, we had to put a security mirror in that corner of the store. >Yours must be different to ours then. They are so simple and easy to pop >that a baby could do it with one hand whilst blind folded :) 1. We don't >have to pull back any backing first. Our's used to be like that, but it seems the past few years I need to get out the scissors to get the darned things open. On 5/13/08 11:57 PM, in article 68vgr3F2temjiU1@mid.individual.net, "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote: >> guys@consolidated.net wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I am so glad our pills come in blister packs and with some pills they have > days of the week printed near each pill. We can get them either way. I find it only takes about 5 minutes to do it myself and if the doc changes the meds I can change it immediately. Most pharmacies do it automatically for the elderly. Please don't ask me to define elderly unless you will accept anyone 10 years older than me. SignatureMartha T2 Canada 1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia > When you buy meds it will be proper to count the number of > pills etc. At several bucks a pill it is easy to profit from > theft. It is best to have a witness when you open and count them. I had severe problems with Rite Aid for a while. I think it was traced back to one person because he's no longer there. A few times I think they shorted me by about 3 pills. Not so obvious when you get 90 days worth at a time. But then they started giving me 30 days instead of 90. But they were charging me for 90! A couple of times I didn't notice this until it ran out and I tried to refill. But then I started checking the bottles. One time I brought this to the clerks attention and he tried to tell me I was only allowed to get 30 pills. Gah! > Not a very edifying report on Walgreens response to an > emergency: [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > manager. He was remarkably unsympathetic; the subsequent > Walgreen's response took his side. Actually, I did! I had gone to the nearby lab. I was doing a 24 hour urine collection. I can't remember now if I was dropping off the specimen or picking up a jar or whatever... I do remember stopping for some reason at the Walgreen's. I bought a single serve package of Cadbury eggs for Angela. This was before we knew of our food allergies. Can't remember if I bought anything else or not. Began feeling unwell, but made my way to the car and tested. I didn't tell anyone in the store. Indeed a hypo. Ate half the package of eggs and waited until my BG was up enough to drive home. I always have candy in my purse now and in my car. I used to work for K Mart. We didn't have a pharmacy then, but that store does have one now. Meaning we didn't have any meters in the store. I don't know what they would have done had they had them. But we did have at least one diabetic working there who would have had a meter. We did have people have hypos in the store, but they were not alone. In that case, the person who was with them, went to the cafeteria and bought them a drink. Some juice or a Coke or something. Meanwhile, various employees would stay with the person. If the person was alone, the standard procedure would have been to dial 911, unless perhaps the person was coherent enough to say they needed some sugar or some such thing. In that case, someone would have been sent to the cafeteria for some sugar packets. They were considered freebies. No store employee would have had the right to get a drink without paying for it, but if one of the managers were there, they likely would have gotten something had they known to do so. I don't think they would. Thinking back, we knew to give sugar but nothing else. And if a customer were to have taken a drink and not paid for it, indeed security would have been called. The odd thing with the story you posted is that the diabetic didn't have her own meter with her. I can not see grabbing a meter off the shelf. That just seems like the wrong thing to do. I can see why the store might insist on someone paying for the meter. Stores will have kits of emergency medical supplies and if it goes beyond the scope of that, then 911 should be called. > After that the Walgreen's manager aggressively demanded that > one of the heroes pay for the glucometer and the goods. When [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > manager. He was remarkably unsympathetic; the subsequent > Walgreen's response took his side. That's appalling. The nurse should have been given an award. I don't usually shop at Walgreen's but you can be sure they'll receive absolutely none of my business in the future. John C. |
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