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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / May 2008A great line in Dr Chungs post
Life in industrial countries is essentially life in feed lots. It s a win win situation. Sell them food and then treat them for the illness that results. ----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- convicted friend Guy (g...@consolidated.net) wrote: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForGuy > "Life in industrialized countries is essentially life in blessed feed lots." -- Holy Spirit Amen. > It s a win win situation. Sell them > food and then treat them for the illness > that results. It is much worse... ... convince them of the lie "eat right and exercise" instead of the truth "eat less" and then send them to others to be slaughtered for the love of money: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable It remains much smarter to simply eat less, down to the right amount and escape the slaughter: http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart <>< http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Counsels "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love25@thetruth.com> barked: > convicted friend <snip zzzzzzzzzzz> The caravan passed.  SignatureDavid Silverman aa #2208 Defender of Civilisation Lord Mayor of Dis Lawful copyright holder of the term "Earthquack". Not authentic without this signature. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Idioticsatan <>< http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Counsels > convicted friend Guy (g...@consolidated.net) wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > truth "eat less" and then send them to others to be slaughtered for > the love of money: You're lying. The general advise given is to reduce caloric intake, eat the right foods, and exercise. 2 pounds of food per day, regardless of the type of food, or the size of the person, or the activity level of the individual is stupid advise. > > convicted friend Guy (g...@consolidated.net) wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > 2 pounds of food per day, regardless of the type of food, or the size of the > person, or the activity level of the individual is stupid advise. Actually, Chung has admitted on May 4th 2008 that 2 lbs of food per day is not optimal for children. He then tried to waffle out of having admitted it, but it is forever archived on Google Groups. Ignore the article but note where Chung admits the 2 PD is for everyone is bull: > Life in industrialized nations is life in feed lots. It is up to > parents to figure out what is the right amount of food for their > children. Because the right amount for the parents is 32 ounces, the > right amount for their children will be varying degrees less. http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/browse_thread/thread/3fc296838 e4495de/5d273aa55fdca8bb?lnk=st&q=#5d273aa55fdca8bb Do you really think anyone cares about what the weirdo claims or admits??? yamantaka@aol.com wrote on 5/11/08 10:51 AM: >> ... >> [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/browse_thread/thread/3fc2968 > 38e4495de/5d273aa55fdca8bb?lnk=st&q=#5d273aa55fdca8bb > Do you really think anyone cares about what the weirdo claims or admits??? > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/browse_thread/threa... > > 38e4495de/5d273aa55fdca8bb?lnk=st&q=#5d273aa55fdca8bb True that most don't care or pay attention to what Chung spews. But he does list his MD/PhD credentials when making these claims and he fraudulently claims to have a 2 million dollar guarantee for his diet. He gives out specific advice to individual diabetics and heart patients on the Internet. His medical advice is bad, twisted and may be dangerous to some. Such dishonesty and fraudulent activity is grounds for losing one's medical license in Georgia. Be very certain that the Georgia Medical Board investigators are watching what Chung has to say to the public these days. This sort of advice is considered to be practicing medicine and giving medical advice, even if done over the Internet. Physicians who identify themselves as such on the Internet can be held to the same standards of needing to practice up to minimum medical guidelines and community standards in this medium as in other places such as the office or clinics. I am documenting the post in which he contradicted his heretofore dogmatic and persistent insistence that 2 lbs of food per day was the correct amount for everyone on the planet, regardless of size, weight, age, activity or medical conditions. yamantaka@aol.com wrote on 5/11/08 11:46 AM: > True that most don't care or pay attention to what Chung spews. But he > does list his MD/PhD credentials when making these claims and he [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > correct amount for everyone on the planet, regardless of size, weight, > age, activity or medical conditions. I doubt if any reader of this N/G puts any credence in his inane ramblings..... > yamantaka@aol.com wrote on 5/11/08 11:46 AM: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> patients on the Internet. His medical advice is bad, twisted and may >> be dangerous to some. > I doubt if any reader of this N/G puts any credence in his inane > ramblings..... And if by some remote chance they do, who will they believe. Chung does use his MD/PhD and is listed in the Medical Georgia State Board and looking him up on the yellow pages on the Internet, all show the same information about his office as does his web pages. Chung's theology views are certainly unusual, but not that much more than some others expressed on SMC. His 2PD Blah Blah is absurd to say the least, but other doctors practice alternative medicine such chelation therapy, mesiotherapy and sell supplements and vitamins in there offices and run spas, so he is a little more out of the mainstream. Now yamantaka@aol.com says s/he is a board certified internist, but gives nothing to be able to verify it. So why should a reader to SMC believe an anonymous poster like yamantaka@aol.com over a rather "unusual", and even weird/crazy, doctor when it comes to medical advice. We all know what Chung is saying is absurd, but for someone who does not realize that, which is really hard to understand unless they are as crazy as Chung, why should they believe yamantaka@aol.com or any of us? Perhaps if yamantaka@aol.com were to give evidence that s/he is a doctor, and even board certified, his/her posts would carry a little more weight than all the other posts and would show that one doctor disagreed with another doctor and that may give that reader a reason to pause and think and look further. So, yamantaka@aol.com are you ready to back up your claims which will make your posts far more effective and carry the same weight by having an MD as does Chung's. I would expect not as you want the anonymity as many of us do. And so it will go on and on and on and ...... >> yamantaka wrote on 5/11/08 11:46 AM: >> [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > And so it will go on and on and on and ...... ok, so what about the other Dr's who HAVE given their medical ID/name and Andy immediately reports them to the medical board? he's done it more than once too oh, he also calls the local police on them yamantaka will be identified to Andy in the complaint that the Georgia Medical Board recieves, and that is more than sufficient i'm not sure i would like a crackpot like Chungy to be following me! Signaturekate type 1 since 1987 www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/newly%20diagnosed.html http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForKate <>< http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Love > >> yamantaka wrote on 5/11/08 11:46 AM: > [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > kate > type 1 since 1987www.diabetic-talk.orghttp://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/newly%20diagnosed.html Actually, I can remain anonymous. I don't want the crazy narcissistic Chung to know my real identity because he has gone whacko on others before and tried to get revenge. However, I am a member in good standing of Sermo, which is a physicians only website. We can post anonymously there too, but we have all had to give our real identifying info to the site and to be verified and vetted by the Sermo site administration. I can use Sermo to vouch for me with the Georgia Medical Board. They can verify that I am indeed a licensed physician and a Board Certified Internist whose true identity is known to them. As a recognized entity with over 60,000 US licensed physician members, they have clout and reliability. Chung was quickly thrown off of Sermo after about two weeks of his nonsense posts. To this day he distorts the reasons why he was thrown off and has fantasies of revenge against Sermo, but as usual Chung is ineffective and impotent. Still, I don't want the whacko to try any shenanigans against me or my family. Anyone who wants to doubt that I am a licensed, practicing physician and a Board Certified internist remains free to do so and disregard anything I may have to say or killfile me. But I am not about to reveal my actual name or location in this forum anytime soon. Sorry. >>>> yamantaka wrote on 5/11/08 11:46 AM: >>>>> True that most don't care or pay attention to what Chung spews. But he [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] > anything I may have to say or killfile me. But I am not about to > reveal my actual name or location in this forum anytime soon. Sorry. oh, this is good news i'm glad you are able to protect yourself and your family from the lunatic endeavours of Ch*ng take care, and good luck Signaturekate type 1 since 1987 www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/newly%20diagnosed.html http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForKate <>< http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Counsels > ok, so what about the other Dr's who HAVE given their medical ID/name > and Andy immediately reports them to the medical board? > > he's done it more than once too > > oh, he also calls the local police on them When did that happen - is there any posting about that. Making a false charge to the police is a crime. >> ok, so what about the other Dr's who HAVE given their medical ID/name >> and Andy immediately reports them to the medical board? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > When did that happen - is there any posting about that. Making a false > charge to the police is a crime. this was via private e-mail the person in question stopped posting to the newsgroups under threat of Ch*ng and another stalker the police asked this person to 'don't post on the newsgroups, leave this nut case alone' and left it at that.......... obviously the police didn't bring charges against this poster this poster, in return, reported Ch*ng to the police in Mabelton, and he was informed that they knew Ch*ng is a lunatic, and told this person to please just ignore it because they didn't have the staff to go out and 'deal with him again' pretty sad when the legal system fails you like this, isn't it! i know personally of the response by the Mableton police department because i called them myself when Ch*ng was stalking me Signaturekate type 1 since 1987 www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/newly%20diagnosed.html http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForKate <>< http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Love >> > convicted friend Guy (g...@consolidated.net) wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > admitted it, but it is forever archived on Google Groups. Ignore the > article but note where Chung admits the 2 PD is for everyone is bull: >> Life in industrialized nations is life in feed lots. It is up to >> parents to figure out what is the right amount of food for their >> children. Because the right amount for the parents is 32 ounces, the >> right amount for their children will be varying degrees less. Two points seem evident: 1) he is tacitly admitting the bible was wrong in its dietary advice (and that he was too stupid to realize that, for years). 2) he is assuming parents are going to do an adequate job in managing their children's food intake. Many obese children have obese parents who can't mange anything, for anyone. I don't like it, but the pragmatic reality seems to be that government intervention into the food industry is needed to get rid of the slow poison products that proliferate nowadays. satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > convicted friend Guy (g...@consolidated.net) wrote: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > You're lying. Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling you to unwittingly confirm that what the Holy Spirit guides me to write remains truthful. Laus Deo ! ! ! http://HeartMDPhD.com/LausDeo May we, who are Jesus' disciples, continue to rebuke you at each GOD- given opportunity as GOD desires: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan <>< May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of Man ... ... by being hungrier: http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD Hunger is wonderful: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good. Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives. Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ... http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob ... gone: http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed: http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed "Blessed are you who hunger NOW... ... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21) Amen. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21 A simple parable for the wise and discerning: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow You're lying. The general advice given is to reduce caloric intake, eat the right foods, and exercise. 2 pounds of food per day, regardless of the type of food, or the size of the person, or the activity level of the individual is stupid advice. http://HeartMDPhD.com/OAF <>< http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Counsels On May 11, 9:19 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote: <Chung's distortions of truth snipped> I've no idea who or what compels you to write any of the crap you spew, Chung. But it sure isn't guided by the God or the Holy Spirit recognized by Christians or other theists. And it sure isn't guided by recognized evidence-based medical principles.You spew crap and lies and medical misinformation. Shame, shame shame on you Chung. You are a pathological, regressed, narcissist without a real life. No friends, no marriage, no job, no patients, no colleagues, no Christian brethren who share your views. You are just a pathetic, personality disordered liar. But of course, you don't see what you do as lies because you twist your perception of the truth to fit your own little delusional world. Too bad no one else shares it with you. > I've no idea who or what compels you to write any of the crap you > spew, Chung. Dr. yamantaka@aol.com From what all that you have said about Chung and Narcissistc personality disorder, shouldn't you have some idea? Seems obvious to me. >Life in industrial countries is essentially life in feed lots. > >It s a win win situation. Sell them >food and then treat them for the illness >that results. some people go through life without a clue, chung is one such idiot. http://www.google.com/search?q=hunger+in+the+united+states&rls=com.microsoft:en- us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1 |
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