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Roy Starrin - 04 May 2008 16:13 GMT
My wife's "pre-diabetic" diagnosis is currently being investigated by
testing.  She is using the Accu-Check Aviva meter, because that is
what she was given.
There is software available, but is meter specific and requires a PC
connection.  Am not sure what data it massages and with what outputs.
Hence, I am looking at (a) generic program(s) which would allow
analysis/display of the test results themselves, plus as a function of
the food input data so that we can build a better diet plan.  I do not
mind inputting mannually test results, diet consumed, etc.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
TIA
   Roy
ankalime - 04 May 2008 18:11 GMT
> Hence, I am looking at (a) generic program(s) which would allow
> analysis/display of the test results themselves, plus as a function of
> the food input data so that we can build a better diet plan.  I do not
> mind inputting mannually test results, diet consumed, etc.
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Hi Roy,

There's a really long list of spreadsheets, software, and online
programs at http://www.mendosa.com/software.htm. It's a lot to sort
through, but there's probably something there along the lines of what
you are looking for.

Personally, I use an Excel spreadsheet to record food eaten and blood
glucose (BG) readings. I have it set up so that it produces a chart
over the course of day so it's easy to see how what I ate affected my
BG. My endo really appreciates it. It's pretty simple, but works for
me. If you have some experience with Excel, you could do something
similar. I'd be happy to send you a copy of mine if you want an
example.

Good luck to you and your wife,
Cindy
ray - 04 May 2008 20:30 GMT
> My wife's "pre-diabetic" diagnosis is currently being investigated by
> testing.  She is using the Accu-Check Aviva meter, because that is what
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> suggestions would be greatly appreciated. TIA
>     Roy

Try a simple spreadsheet.
Roy Starrin - 10 May 2008 12:51 GMT
>> My wife's "pre-diabetic" diagnosis is currently being investigated by
>> testing.  She is using the Accu-Check Aviva meter, because that is what
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>
>Try a simple spreadsheet.
Thanks, but with my computer knowledge, there is no such thing as a
"simple spreadsheet"
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 04 May 2008 21:16 GMT
> My wife's "pre-diabetic" diagnosis is currently being investigated by
> testing.

The more preferred diagnosis is metabolic syndrome (MetS) rather than
"pre-diabetes" from those of us, who are physicians current on the
research in this area.

> She is using the Accu-Check Aviva meter, because that is
> what she was given.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> mind inputting mannually test results, diet consumed, etc.
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Simply use MS-Excel which is a generic spreadsheet with plenty of
features.

It remains smarter to simply eat less, down to the right amount to
reverse the cause of MetS:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart

Here is a simple parable given in hopes of promoting greater
understanding:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

> TIA

Laus Deo

http://HeartMDPhD.com/LausDeo

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

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% - 04 May 2008 21:33 GMT
hi boner
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 05 May 2008 00:23 GMT
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Alan S - 05 May 2008 01:27 GMT
>My wife's "pre-diabetic" diagnosis is currently being investigated by
>testing.  She is using the Accu-Check Aviva meter, because that is
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>TIA
>    Roy

You've had good answers on how to record the results. I made
my own spreadsheet but stopped using it after a year or so.
There is also a good program by a past poster here:
http://healthdiabeticsoftware.com/

[Has anyone heard from Hi_Therre lately?]

More important is how she organise the testing to be of some
value to her in reviewing the things that lead to high (or
low) numbers such as diet and exercise.

These may help:
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/2006/10/d-day.html

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
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Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile?
and Cambodia
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Quentin Grady - 05 May 2008 08:51 GMT
>My wife's "pre-diabetic" diagnosis is currently being investigated by
>testing.  She is using the Accu-Check Aviva meter, because that is
>what she was given.

G'day G'day Roy,

I've never used software to analyze the results.  Some people are
really into such things. For me the key was pattern recognition and
the human brain does that pretty efficiently.  The most important
thing is to notice which foods bump the blood glucose over 140 mg/dL =
7.7 mmol/L at one hour after one starts eating.   It that reading
persists at two hours it is reasonable to assume some form of nerve
damage is being done.  

One simple guideline is to get it below 120 mg/dL = 6.6 mmol/L at two
hours.   Read Jennifer's guide to the Newly Diagnosed for guidance.
It is treasured with affection by many here.  

http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm

>There is software available, but is meter specific and requires a PC
>connection.  Am not sure what data it massages and with what outputs.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>TIA
>    Roy

I'll leave the software issues to others.

Best wishes,
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Nick Cramer - 05 May 2008 11:01 GMT
> On Sun, 04 May 2008 15:13:03 GMT, Roy Starrin <starrin@verizon.net>
[ . . . ]

> I'll leave the software issues to others.

Someone posted http://healthdiabeticsoftware.com/ and I thank them.

I d/l'd it. Once set up, it seems quite easy to use, as you can select the
modules to add data to. I'll see how long I can stay with it.

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Roy Starrin - 10 May 2008 13:02 GMT
>> On Sun, 04 May 2008 15:13:03 GMT, Roy Starrin <starrin@verizon.net>
>[ . . . ]
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>I d/l'd it. Once set up, it seems quite easy to use, as you can select the
>modules to add data to. I'll see how long I can stay with it.

I downloaded it, but all I wound up with  was a series of text files.
Queried the author, but no response.  Suspect I did something wrong
with the ZIP file, or whatever.
This one, from the reference provided by Cindy, is where I am right
now:  https://www.best4diabetes.com/ though I would have preferred
something resident in my PC.
For that reason I have just begun the 15 day free trial of this one,
the WIndow's PC version.
https://diabetespilot.com/
Wife is in California for a week, so I have some time to play with the
various versions
Nick Cramer - 11 May 2008 00:17 GMT
> On 05 May 2008 10:01:27 GMT, Nick Cramer <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net>
> >> On Sun, 04 May 2008 15:13:03 GMT, Roy Starrin <starrin@verizon.net>
> >[ . . . ]

> I downloaded it, but all I wound up with  was a series of text files.
> Queried the author, but no response.  Suspect I did something wrong
> with the ZIP file, or whatever. []

Did you open it with PKUNZIP? Get it at:

http://www.interpages.co.uk/pkzipage/

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Oleg Lego - 10 May 2008 15:29 GMT
>My wife's "pre-diabetic" diagnosis is currently being investigated by
>testing.  She is using the Accu-Check Aviva meter, because that is
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>TIA
>    Roy

Not sure if it will graph food intake or plot it against BG, but
LifeScan offers a program for their OneTouch meter. You would have to
enter her readings manually. Anyway, it's free, and can be downloaded
from http://www.lifescan.com/products/otdms/software.html

You can find information about it at
http://www.lifescan.com/products/otdms/;jsessionid=XDJEXPZMJ1Q3YCQPCCGVRYIKB2IIWTT1
or
http://tinyurl.com/6lykl3

Have a look at the link in the bulleted list, "Learn more about
standard charts and graphs"

The other link you might find handy is
http://www.mendosa.com/software.htm, which lists a lot of them, as
well as some ready-made spreadsheets. There are various categories,
including commercial and freeware.

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