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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / May 2008Nuts and cheese to stop hypo ??
I have been told to keep portions of nuts and cheese to use if I get dizzy test and have BG under 75. Just use snack bag with 2 oz of walnuts -- I portion out 3 or 4 each morning and toss a few baby bel cheeses in my bag. 1 or 2 oz of nuts and a cheese seem to be a good way to get numbers up 45 minutes and BG is usually up to 90 or 100 I know I need fats for brain, and other organs to function. Are there fats that help more ?? I eat butter on bread but so far only have one bread that does not cause problems. Has anyone tried Millet ?? how do you cook it none of the recipes look tasty Is bulgar wheat worth trying or barley? My three favorite foods are bread, cheese and meat -- not a real candy or chocolate eater stopped all sodas the like without Coca Cola may be harder than I thought never drank many 2 or so a week with dinner -- can't drink splenda or other "fake" sugars water is wonderful <G> I have gotten used to coffee with just cream used to use 2 sugars -- I think I like it better without the sugar I thank all those who have answered my post WOW you are a great group I know every body is different and I may have read the answers to some of my questions but with finals and life and now my new parttime job / hobby of diabetes the brain is full an not proccessing new info well Lisa >I have been told to keep portions of nuts and cheese to use if I get >dizzy test and have BG under 75. Just use snack bag with 2 oz of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >1 or 2 oz of nuts and a cheese seem to be a good way to get numbers up >45 minutes and BG is usually up to 90 or 100 From what source? Poor advice in my opinion. Nuts and cheese are basically fats and 2oz will have little effect on a hypo. Better to carry jelly beans or smarties(US version) or some sort of small carby snack of 10-15gms. And will work in 10-30 minutes. >I know I need fats for brain, and other organs to function. Are there >fats that help more ?? Do a quick google search on posts here by Quentin. In brief, extra virgin olive oil, avocado and it's oil and fish oils are top of my list. But that's not exhaustive and nuts are excellent too. >I eat butter on bread but so far only have one bread that does not >cause problems. >Has anyone tried Millet ?? how do you cook it none of the recipes >look tasty > >Is bulgar wheat worth trying or barley? Never tried it. Let your meter guide you. >My three favorite foods are bread, Drop it from the "favourites" list and place it on the "to be tested for acceptable portion size" list. >cheese and meat Not a problem for BGs, subject to being real cheese and not a "low-fat" processed cheese. > -- not a real candy >or chocolate eater stopped all sodas the like without Coca Cola may >be harder than I thought never drank many 2 or so a week with dinner The only use you now have for sugared sodas is to treat hypos in an emergency. >-- can't drink splenda or other "fake" sugars water is wonderful <G> > >I have gotten used to coffee with just cream used to use 2 sugars -- I >think I like it better without the sugar So do I. >I thank all those who have answered my post WOW you are a great group > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Lisa Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile? and Cambodia http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html : >I have been told to keep portions of nuts and cheese to use if I get : >dizzy test and have BG under 75. Just use snack bag with 2 oz of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] : > : From what source? : Poor advice in my opinion. Nuts and cheese are basically : fats and 2oz will have little effect on a hypo. Better to : carry jelly beans or smarties(US version) or some sort of : small carby snack of 10-15gms. And will work in 10-30 : minutes. : >I know I need fats for brain, and other organs to function. Are there : >fats that help more ?? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : are top of my list. But that's not exhaustive and nuts are : excellent too. : >I eat butter on bread but so far only have one bread that does not : >cause problems. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] : > : Never tried it. Let your meter guide you. : >My three favorite foods are bread, : Drop it from the "favourites" list and place it on the "to : be tested for acceptable portion size" list. : >cheese and meat : Not a problem for BGs, subject to being real cheese and not : a "low-fat" processed cheese. : > -- not a real candy : >or chocolate eater stopped all sodas the like without Coca Cola may : >be harder than I thought never drank many 2 or so a week with dinner : The only use you now have for sugared sodas is to treat : hypos in an emergency. : >-- can't drink splenda or other "fake" sugars water is wonderful <G> : > : >I have gotten used to coffee with just cream used to use 2 sugars -- I : >think I like it better without the sugar : > : So do I. : >I thank all those who have answered my post WOW you are a great group : > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : > : >Lisa : Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. Lisa, If you have a hypoglycemic issue, going hypo easily, then eating the small nut and cheese snacks shoudl help PREVENT the bg going low, rather than treating a low. For treating you need soem quick acting carb, followed in about 15 mins by a fat/protein snack to keep ou from rollercoastering, givingyour body something to work on. If they work fo ryou 45 mins after, that is what is happening. Try 15 mins after a low and see what works. I prefer REAL OJ, which I don't, generally drink-say 2-4 oz followed by peanut butter on something like a Wasa whole grain rye cracker a few minutes later. Your cheese and nuts are good too. You will have to keep fiddling to find your own best way adn keep posting when you have time in your busy life. Good luck on your finals adn are you really majoring in dance? 50 yers ago, when I was in college, we only had dance for gym credit adn those who wanted to dance seriously had to skip college. I gave up the dreamso of a professional career to go to college in those days. Nice to know you can combine it now. Wendy >If you have a hypoglycemic issue, going hypo easily, then eating the small >nut and cheese snacks shoudl help PREVENT the bg going low, rather than [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >peanut butter on something like a Wasa whole grain rye cracker a few >minutes later. Your cheese and nuts are good too. In retrospect I can see that in the past I was trying to handle what I didn't know were reactive hypos in a quite sensible way, I'd eat some Healthy Whole Grain bread with peanut butter, or cheese on toast, and chase it with a cup of coffee with sugar. Thus I was hitting the hypo with fast carbs, and following up with relatively slow carbs. The big problem was I was completely overdoing it, whacking my BG up too far too fast, causing my poor overworked pancreas to chuck out a load of insulin, and bingo! the dreaded rollercoaster. Now I am actually able to measure what's occurring I use much the same approach but the quantities are several orders of magnitude smaller - and I tend to keep things on an even keel by dosing the slow carbs/fat combo *before* and during exertion. > >If you have a hypoglycemic issue, going hypo easily, then eating the small > >nut and cheese snacks shoudl help PREVENT the bg going low, rather than [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > and I tend to keep things on an even keel by dosing the slow carbs/fat > combo *before* and during exertion. The discipline to eat only a bit when every neuron in your brain uis screaming :FEED MY NOW is the hard part. Eating a bit and waiting even 5 minutes takes the intense hunger away The last few weeks -- or months there were afternoons when I would inhale food now I know I was "self medicating" a hypo. The resulting BG surge -- i was not testing so I think it was a surge -- gave me horrid headaches the if I did not snack on something the whole cycle wouyld start again. Thanks Lisa >The discipline to eat only a bit when every neuron in your brain uis >screaming :FEED MY NOW is the hard part. Eating a bit and waiting >even 5 minutes takes the intense hunger away The last few weeks -- or >months there were afternoons when I would inhale food now I know I was >"self medicating" a hypo. Mad, isn't it - it's caused by too much insulin, which is another argument in favour of the nuts approach rather than the candies one, whilst that works for you; the candies may just stimulate more insulin production. That kind of hunger is something no-one other than a T2 diabetic seems to know about, btw - which is partly why there's a culture that says T2 is the patient's fault because they ate themselves that way. Quite apart from lousy science, nothing prepares you to not feed a body that thinks it's, quite literally, starving. Hope the finals went well. Does that mean you have a long break now? Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 >> >If you have a hypoglycemic issue, going hypo easily, then eating the small >> >nut and cheese snacks shoudl help PREVENT the bg going low, rather than [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >so I think it was a surge -- gave me horrid headaches the if I did not >snack on something the whole cycle wouyld start again. This sounds horribly familiar. Have patience, as the BG swings less so the food cravings evaporate and return to just normal-type hunger Trinkwasser wrote in message ... >>> >If you have a hypoglycemic issue, going hypo easily, then eating the small >>> >nut and cheese snacks shoudl help PREVENT the bg going low, rather than [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > >This sounds horribly familiar. Yes, it does sound familiar. Cheri > > >If you have a hypoglycemic issue, going hypo easily, then eating the small > > >nut and cheese snacks shoudl help PREVENT the bg going low, rather than [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > The discipline to eat only a bit when every neuron in your brain uis > screaming :FEED MY NOW is the hard part. It will remain difficult until you truly know in your heart that hunger is wonderful: http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart <>< http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Counsels On May 6, 12:26 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > > > >If you have a hypoglycemic issue, going hypo easily, then eating the small > > > >nut and cheese snacks shoudl help PREVENT the bg going low, rather than [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Counsels When signed into Google, with a Chung Dung post open, look to the upper right hand corner. Click on "more options" Then click on "report this message" and "Type of abuse* I am seeing spam" Be sure to include a description of Chung's worthless, repetitive, off topic, self- serving spam and point out that he gives bad, nonstandard medical advice and has multiple Google accounts. >The discipline to eat only a bit when every neuron in your brain uis >screaming :FEED MY NOW is the hard part. Eating a bit and waiting [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Thanks >Lisa G'day G'day Lisa, As you may already suspect it isn't psychological, its physiological. Some hormone messages don't make it through to the brain thanks to leptin resistance. It's sort of like insulin resistance except the brain thinks its starving rather than muscles crying out for glucose. The trick is to take fish oil for its EPA content. . It won't do anything in the short term but it is likely to benefit in the long term. In the short term, take MEASURED doses of carbs (10 to 15 grams = 1/3 to 1/2 ounce) so you don't get the bodies self regularity systems getting upset and over reacting in a most upsetting fashion. Best wishes,  SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin > : On Sat, 3 May 2008 16:11:15 -0700 (PDT), Dancing Hypo > [quoted text clipped - 89 lines] > > Wendy BFA dance and european history double major not sure what I will do with either:) Lots of my friends dance for fun in college our depatment affers many all comers classes Know I can't dance forever so 4-5 years of school the either grad school so I can teach or whatever. A week ago I was sure this diabetes thing would be then end of dancing but seems I can dance and test BG levels Lisa > A week ago I was sure this diabetes thing would be then end of dancing > but seems I can dance and test BG levels There are plenty of pro athletes with diabetes, and I know I've also read about dancers. (I just found an article about Zippora Karz.) It's not easy to manage the diabetes & the activity requirements, but it can be done. Best wishes. bj > On Sat, 3 May 2008 16:11:15 -0700 (PDT), Dancing Hypo > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > From what source? The problem as far as the early testing shows is my body "forgets" to stop making insulin for some reason. The suggestion for using the nuts or cheese is because any food will kind of "reset" my insulin thing. I ave only had 3 times since I started metering and each time it has brought the numbers up but not started a rollercoaster of highs and lows Tomorrow I see the medical folks again so I will ask The one time I did try 10 g hard candy the numbers went way up then down then up bad few hours Thanks for your post and I appreciate all the info and encouragement I read through posta waiting for a final -- you folks just made me feel better THANK YOU Lisa >> On Sat, 3 May 2008 16:11:15 -0700 (PDT), Dancing Hypo >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >I read through posta waiting for a final -- you folks just made me >feel better THANK YOU The most sucessful diabetics are those that do a lot of their own work. But do use the doctor when indicated. We must be careful to not assume much. Monitor others experiences and compare it with what you find. . >Lisa ----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- >I have been told to keep portions of nuts and cheese to use if I get > dizzy test and have BG under 75. Just use snack bag with 2 oz of [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I know I need fats for brain, and other organs to function. Are there > fats that help more ?? I can't see how nuts and cheese would help you if you are dizzy. > I eat butter on bread but so far only have one bread that does not > cause problems. > Has anyone tried Millet ?? how do you cook it none of the recipes > look tasty I have not tried millet, but I intend to. It does look very high in carbs though. I wanted to make it into a gluten free tabouli. So there would be a lot of parsley and veggies and very little millet. > Is bulgar wheat worth trying or barley? I do okay with barley. I eat a bread by Silver Hills that is a sprouted wheat and flax. It seems to do okay for me. > My three favorite foods are bread, cheese and meat -- not a real candy > or chocolate eater stopped all sodas the like without Coca Cola may > be harder than I thought never drank many 2 or so a week with dinner > -- can't drink splenda or other "fake" sugars water is wonderful <G> Cheese and meat won't have a lot of effect on your BG. Bread can though. Luckily, I didn't eat much bread before I was diagnosed. And actually I am eating more of it now than I did then. > I have gotten used to coffee with just cream used to use 2 sugars -- I > think I like it better without the sugar [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > of my questions but with finals and life and now my new parttime job / > hobby of diabetes the brain is full an not proccessing new info well It can take a while to get things figured out. And then just when you think you have figured it out, things will change. >>I have been told to keep portions of nuts and cheese to use if I get >> dizzy test and have BG under 75. Just use snack bag with 2 oz of [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >It can take a while to get things figured out. And then just when you think >you have figured it out, things will change. When a person has a hypo, the thing to do is to eat some fast. acting glucose. The thing to not do-- is to overdo it. Prevention of hypos is much more complex and each person must find what works for them. A reason to learn the basics and forget the recipes. ----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- convicted friend Guy (g...@consolidated.net) wrote: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForGuy http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForJulie > >>I have been told to keep portions of nuts and cheese to use if I get > >> dizzy test and have BG under 75. Just use snack bag with 2 oz of [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > When a person has a hypo, the thing to do is to eat > some fast. acting glucose. Correct. > The thing to not do-- is to overdo it. "Honey is good but eat too much of it and you will vomit." -- King Solomon <>< http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Counsels > Correct. > >> The thing to not do-- is to overdo it. > > "Honey is good but eat too much of it and you will vomit." -- King > Solomon And too much of oxygen or water is bad, even fatal for you. http://HeartMDPhD.com/OAF <>< http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Counsels > "Honey is good but eat too much of it and you will vomit." -- King > Solomon So a 2PD Blah Blah of eating 2 pounds of honey will make you vomit so best not to follow the 2 PDer if eating honey. If going to follow that 2PDer "approach" (which is not a way, but only approach), stick with manna is it is written in the Bible. The Bible is the direct word of God rather than the second hand nature of Chung's word which he says comes from God or Christ or the Holy Spirit - just go the "boss guy" rather than just a spokesperson like Chung On May 4, 3:20 pm, g...@consolidated.net wrote: > >>I have been told to keep portions of nuts and cheese to use if I get > >> dizzy test and have BG under 75. Just use snack bag with 2 oz of [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > Prevention of hypos is much more complex and > each person must find what works for them. I am shooting for the maintain good levels The whole disconnected really craving FOOD of any kind feeling is not a fun adventure. Thanks for encoraging me It means a lot Lisa > >I have been told to keep portions of nuts and cheese to use if I get > > dizzy test and have BG under 75. Just use snack bag with 2 oz of [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > It can take a while to get things figured out. And then just when you think > you have figured it out, things will change. Thanks I posted a few minutes ago that my problem seems to be my body will make too much insulin sometiems and eating is like hitting a reset button I will post the technical terms All of these replies make me want to ask more questions and take notes so I can "report" my status to the group So funny like I am preparing a class presentation -- topic: "Diabetes --- Every case is different what's different about yours" Lisa >Thanks I posted a few minutes ago that my problem seems to be my >body will make too much insulin sometiems and eating is like hitting a >reset button Yes that's fairly typical with RH and the early stages of "Type 2 diabetic progression", first thing to go is the Phase 1 insulin response so you can no longer put out fast "boluses" after eating, but you can still put out plenty of Phase 2 insulin. However due to the BG spike from the lack of Phase 1 your pancreas fails to shut the insulin production down again when you've made enough so your BG overshoots. Bernstein's Law Of Small Numbers works well here, you make small changes to the inputs of the faulty control system and get small changes in output. I'm (still) at the stage where my insulin output is rate limited but not time limited, so by reducing the carb load to that which my pancreas can still cope with and shutting off the highs the rebound lows have more or less gone away. >I will post the technical terms > >All of these replies make me want to ask more questions and take notes >so I can "report" my status to the group >So funny like I am preparing a class presentation -- topic: "Diabetes >--- Every case is different what's different about yours" Yes! That's the problem with many of the "official" sites, in trying to dumb down to what they percieve is the intelligence level of the readers they miss out on much of the complexity and many of the differences. Only by doing your own testing can you find your own limits. Much the same happens with the GI tables, I will guarantee that while some or even many of the things you eat correspond well to the official GI/GL numbers you are going to find your very own spikers and things you can get away with which will only partly overlap with others' findings. [snip] > Thanks I posted a few minutes ago that my problem seems to be my > body will make too much insulin sometiems and eating is like hitting a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Lisa You may want to see if this helps you with the technical terms: http://www.diabetic-talk.org/dp.htm > I have been told to keep portions of nuts and cheese to use if I get > dizzy test and have BG under 75. Just use snack bag with 2 oz of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > 1 or 2 oz of nuts and a cheese seem to be a good way to get numbers up > 45 minutes and BG is usually up to 90 or 100 A couple of crackers with your snackers might help. > I know I need fats for brain, and other organs to function. Are there > fats that help more ?? Fish! See the chart on http://www.annecollins.com/dietary-fat/fish-oils-fatty-acids.htm I don't agree with all of her other info, but I'm 73, so who cares! ;- Google on fish omega 3 for more info > [ . . . ] > I know every body is different and I may have read the answers to some > of my questions but with finals and life and now my new parttime job / > hobby of diabetes the brain is full an not proccessing new info well Ah! Finals. And your new hobby/club membership. How fun! Take care. Get A's! SignatureNick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families! I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~ > > I have been told to keep portions of nuts and cheese to use if I get > > dizzy test and have BG under 75. Just use snack bag with 2 oz of [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Take care. Get A's! Thinking it will be 4 As and a B biology wonder if I can take Diabetes as my next lab science -- don't think it'd work Thanks for the support and encouragement Lisa >I have been told to keep portions of nuts and cheese to use if I get >dizzy test and have BG under 75. Just use snack bag with 2 oz of >walnuts -- I portion out 3 or 4 each morning and toss a few baby bel >cheeses in my bag. G'day G'day Lisa, It is crucially important to decide whether you are attempting to prevent hypos or deal with an existing hypo. Let's assume for the moment you are not on insulin or an oral med that causes the pancreas to release more insulin. These assumptions are important as hypos are critically dangerous for those who are on insulin. Each person has his/her ideas on how to deal with a hypo. In part it depends on what food they lay their hands on that will provide just the right amount of carbohydrate that releases glucose rapidly. A popular choice is jelly beans since they are stable between events. Others prefer orange juice or a glass of milk. Some people prefer glucose tablets as these give a measured amount of glucose. The problem for many people is unwittingly over dosing. Too large a dose leads to a roller coaster effect where the first response is for the blood glucose to go too high and for it then to fall rapidly. This causes the bodies own self regulatory responses to kick in and for the person to feel like crap and for them to take more glucose when in fact their blood glucose is too high but falling fast. This is known as a false hypo. >1 or 2 oz of nuts and a cheese seem to be a good way to get numbers up >45 minutes and BG is usually up to 90 or 100 45 minutes is a long time and would be OK if you were attempting to prevent a hypo. I use nuts or a square of chocolate before driving for this purpose. However IMHO it is not the way to deal with an existing hypo. For that you also need a small amount of faster acting carbohydrate providing just 10 to 15 grams of glucose. HALF a glass of orange juice. A THIRD of a glass of apple juice. TWO teaspoons of sugar TWO sugar cubes. FIVE lifesavers. TWO or THREE 5 gram glucose tablets. You'll have to check out the local jelly beans for their carb content. Remember you're aiming for 10 to 15 grams of glucose. T1 diabetics have a lot more experience of hypos than T2s so ask someone like Mac who has a good grasp on how to follow up with testing and taking a second dose if necessary. >I know I need fats for brain, and other organs to function. Are there >fats that help more ?? The brain needs a particular fat called DHA more than it needs other fats. DHA is one of the omega-3 oils found in fish oil. The other is EPA. In New Zealand the best source of DHA is either Hoki mega which is a deep sea fish containing more DHA than EPA; unusual for fish oil. OR to go for the vegan option of an oil extracted directly from algae. >I eat butter on bread but so far only have one bread that does not >cause problems. Most breads will cause problems in the form of high blood glucose levels after eating. Anything over 140 mg/dL at two hours after eating is going to cause nerve damage of some sort. We have a few brands that have a particularly low GI where this is less of a problem. The major problem though with bread is that it is a concentrated source of carbohydrate. Put simply it is easy to overdose. Some people go for thin wraps called mountain bread. These come in different grains eg barley which tastes pleasant. With a tablespoon of tahini it makes the basis of a healthy snack. >Has anyone tried Millet ?? how do you cook it none of the recipes >look tasty I didn't like the flavour when I tried it. If I recall correctly it had a highish GI. >Is bulgar wheat worth trying or barley? If you go in for tabouli with lots of parsley and very little bulgur wheat you may well have the basis for a workable meal item. Pearl barley works for some people as a substitute for rice. It has a lower GI. >My three favorite foods are bread, cheese and meat -- not a real candy >or chocolate eater stopped all sodas the like without Coca Cola may >be harder than I thought never drank many 2 or so a week with dinner >-- can't drink splenda or other "fake" sugars water is wonderful <G> Soft drinks, "soda" I think you may call them have a truly amazing amount of sugar. Even small bottles have about a dozen teaspoons of sugar. No one I know has a dozen teaspoons of sugar in their tea or coffee but do each time they have a small coke. >I have gotten used to coffee with just cream used to use 2 sugars -- I >think I like it better without the sugar I've forgotten what coffee with sugar is like. >I thank all those who have answered my post WOW you are a great group They are quite amazing. Each will contribute their experience which naturally differs from person to person. In time you'll accumulate your own experience. >I know every body is different and I may have read the answers to some >of my questions but with finals and life and now my new parttime job / >hobby of diabetes the brain is full an not proccessing new info well Recall a time when your brain processed divinely. I'm sure there was such a time. Simply recalling that time will bring back the needed physiology. >Lisa Best wishes and best of luck with the finals. You're dealing with the other stuff sensibly. The DHA will help with the brain function for exams. Best wishes, SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin > On Sat, 3 May 2008 16:11:15 -0700 (PDT), Dancing Hypo > [quoted text clipped - 131 lines] > > http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin I will see the doc and nurse tomorrow. You have all given me a better ubderstanding of the mountain of info they gave me at the med center. It is one thing to see the concepts written down much easier to understand from you guys -- not so clinical but almost all the advice lines up with thw written info I was given. Thanks I have never been one to seek encouragement but I am so thankful I found you folks. Lisa >Thanks >I have never been one to seek encouragement but I am so thankful I >found you folks. > >Lisa Encouragement!! What a timely comment. Some research in New Zealand has uncovered an unexpected factor that is more important than the usually stated factors for losing weight and keeping it off. Apparently relaxing is the big one. Put simply, receiving encouragement and enjoying support from others matters most. So welcome to a group of long lost friends whom you've yet to meet. People who will enjoy your company and give you a tonne of encouragement with whatever you're going for. (A tonne is a tad more than a short ton. If it isn't like who cares.) Best wishes, SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin > > On Sat, 3 May 2008 16:11:15 -0700 (PDT), Dancing Hypo > [quoted text clipped - 145 lines] > > Lisa For the hypo I also have another favorite - GU ... it comes in 1-oz foil packets and is normally found at a hiking or biking store, sometimes in grocery and drugstores. It is a quick acting carb energy gel, much like frosting, and it is used for quick energy while exercising. I use it for all the stuff I do. -TrekMan > For the hypo I also have another favorite - GU ... it comes in 1-oz > foil packets and is normally found at a hiking or biking store, > sometimes in grocery and drugstores. It is a quick acting carb energy > gel, much like frosting, and it is used for quick energy while > exercising. I use it for all the stuff I do. > -TrekMan You can find plenty of GU (& similar stuff) discussions amongst distance runners. And lots of deals & varieties & info (& sometimes samples) at places like marathon expos. Some races have energy gels at on-course aid/water/refuelling stations & you can usually find out ahead which brand it's going to be -- but of course you have to actually be *in* the race to benefit from this source. :-) bj : > On Sat, 3 May 2008 16:11:15 -0700 (PDT), Dancing Hypo : > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] : > FIVE lifesavers. : > TWO or THREE 5 gram glucose tablets. : I will see the doc and nurse tomorrow. You have all given me a : better ubderstanding of the mountain of info they gave me at the med : center. : It is one thing to see the concepts written down much easier to : understand from you guys -- not so clinical but almost all the advice : lines up with thw written info I was given. : Thanks : I have never been one to seek encouragement but I am so thankful I : found you folks. : Lisa lisa, we are all glad to help and when the person we are trying to help is so intellegent and eager to understand it is a true delight! Hope your 4 A's and 1 B comes true. that is a fine record! Wendy |
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