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ITS MY BIRTHDAY

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% - 01 May 2008 19:36 GMT
happy i don't get no cake to me
Cheri - 01 May 2008 20:28 GMT
% wrote in message ...
>happy i don't get no cake to me

Happy Birthday. Birthday cake doesn't count as long as you only eat it
on *your* birthday. Have a good day.

Cheri
Em - 01 May 2008 22:56 GMT
> happy i don't get no cake to me

Happy Birthday, %!!!
Alan S - 01 May 2008 23:07 GMT
>happy i don't get no cake to me

From Jennifer, who used to post here:

Birthday Cake

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!!
Modern research has determined that "Birthday Cake", ie: A
highly decorated sweet flour/fat/sugar based dessert,
generally festooned with YOUR name, has NO CALORIES, NO
CARBS, AND NO FAT.

Shocking? Sure.

But it appears, the joy felt once a year when we eat a piece
of this comestible surrounded by our loved ones immediately
dissipates all CALORIES, CARBS AND FAT!

There are a few important caveats:

1. It must be YOUR birthday.
2. You must only have ONE birthday a year.
3. Cake must be consumed AFTER appropriate musical
accompaniment ("Happy Birthday" or "For He/She's a Jolly
Good Fellow/Person" or the like).
4. Candles, while low carb, low calorie and low fat must NOT
be consumed... especially when lit.
5. BEWARE! Foods consumed before and after cake maintain
their original carb, fat and calorie count.

This has been brought to you as a public service
announcement.

Jennifer

Yes, the "Ice Cream AND Cake" variable was addressed in the
study.

Should "Ice Cream AND Cake" be consumed, as separate items,
each will release HALF of it's calories, carbs and fats. So
an option would be to only eat the HALF that is now
CCF-FREE. Determining which half is now CCF-FREE is easy...
it's the half closest to you.

As for an "Ice Cream Cake" ie: Baskin Robbins/Haggan
Daz/Carvel... normal sized slices fall under the original
CCF-FREE study and can be consumed with pleasure.

Hope that clears it up.

Jennifer

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile?
and Cambodia
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html
Ozgirl - 02 May 2008 03:02 GMT
Happy Birthday, hope it is a good one. I always have cake on my birthday and
bugger the consequences.

> happy i don't get no cake to me
Lerp - 02 May 2008 03:08 GMT
> happy i don't get no cake to me

Happy birthday. Here is a slice of virtual cake.
Ozgirl - 02 May 2008 10:16 GMT
On May 1, 2:36 pm, "%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote:
> happy i don't get no cake to me

Happy birthday. Here is a slice of virtual cake.

Where have you been?
Em - 02 May 2008 13:36 GMT
> On May 1, 2:36 pm, "%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> happy i don't get no cake to me
>
> Happy birthday. Here is a slice of virtual cake.
>
> Where have you been?

Making %'s virtual birthday cake  ;o)
Lerp - 02 May 2008 22:56 GMT
> > On May 1, 2:36 pm, "%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> happy i don't get no cake to me
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Making %'s virtual birthday cake  ;o)

I'll sell you a virtual slice if you would like...Ah daggonit, I
burned the thing. Never mind.
Lerp - 02 May 2008 22:55 GMT
> On May 1, 2:36 pm, "%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Where have you been?

Thanks for asking. I just purchased a digital Canon camera, and I have
been spending a great deal of time trying to grasp photography. Bottom
line: I stink at it. I am learning though. It keeps me busy and away
from the refridgerator too. I think I can get my A1C even lower if I
keep trying to nail down my new hobby.
Ozgirl - 03 May 2008 02:15 GMT
On May 2, 5:16 am, "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_...@maccas.com> wrote:
> "Lerp" <diabeticl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Where have you been?

Thanks for asking. I just purchased a digital Canon camera, and I have
been spending a great deal of time trying to grasp photography. Bottom
line: I stink at it. I am learning though. It keeps me busy and away
from the refridgerator too. I think I can get my A1C even lower if I
keep trying to nail down my new hobby.

------------

Put your stuff on Flickr so I can see it :) I am an amateur too, I mostly
take family pics :)
Lerp - 03 May 2008 03:28 GMT
> On May 2, 5:16 am, "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_...@maccas.com> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> Put your stuff on Flickr so I can see it :) I am an amateur too, I mostly
> take family pics :)

Are you on flickkr? send me a private email with your user name.
Ozgirl - 03 May 2008 03:52 GMT
"Lerp" <diabeticlerp@gmail.com> wrote in message news:9838d5b0-

Are you on flickkr? send me a private email with your user name.

Done.
Alan S - 03 May 2008 07:05 GMT
>"Lerp" <diabeticlerp@gmail.com> wrote in message news:9838d5b0-
>
>Are you on flickkr? send me a private email with your user name.
>
>Done.

More details on flicker please.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile?
and Cambodia
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html
Ozgirl - 03 May 2008 09:26 GMT
>>"Lerp" <diabeticlerp@gmail.com> wrote in message news:9838d5b0-
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>
> More details on flicker please.

www.flickr.com - it is a yahoo thing so need a yahoo addy. Upload your pics
and decide whether you want them to be public or private. I keep mine
private unless one is a contact and give guest passes out to those who want
to see them. I am happy to accept requests from people to be my contacts.
Alan S - 03 May 2008 12:42 GMT
>www.flickr.com - it is a yahoo thing so need a yahoo addy. Upload your pics
>and decide whether you want them to be public or private. I keep mine
>private unless one is a contact and give guest passes out to those who want
>to see them. I am happy to accept requests from people to be my contacts.

Thanks. It worked:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26250058@N06/

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile?
and Cambodia
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html
DonnaB shallotpeel - 03 May 2008 13:00 GMT
On Sat, 03 May 2008 21:42:48 +1000, in
<9cjo14lsff6jeoe05a9u1fq4uvlepqsejr@4ax.com> Alan S
<loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:

>>www.flickr.com - it is a yahoo thing so need a yahoo addy. Upload your pics
>>and decide whether you want them to be public or private. I keep mine
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Thanks. It worked:
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/26250058@N06/

I have some photos up on photobucket.com but now, being on Facebook, there's
room for so many!

Signature

DonnaB shallotpeel : ^> USA <*> new WIN Vista user
06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 HbA1c 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg
Current ................... HbA1c 6.3

"Be courteous to all, but intimate with few, and let those few be well tried
before you give them your confidence." - George Washington

Alan S - 03 May 2008 13:37 GMT
>On Sat, 03 May 2008 21:42:48 +1000, in
><9cjo14lsff6jeoe05a9u1fq4uvlepqsejr@4ax.com> Alan S
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>I have some photos up on photobucket.com but now, being on Facebook, there's
>room for so many!

Up until just now the only method I had used was the blog.
This could be quite useful for one-offs and quick transfers
to my family. Still learning it. Those six were just a test.
I'll have some fun playing with it over the next week or so.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile?
and Cambodia
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html
Lerp - 03 May 2008 22:37 GMT
> On Sat, 03 May 2008 08:00:17 -0400, DonnaB shallotpeel
>
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks for posting those awesome pics Alan. Now I want to just take my
camera and go home, and never show my face again:-).
Alan S - 04 May 2008 00:22 GMT
>> On Sat, 03 May 2008 08:00:17 -0400, DonnaB shallotpeel
>>
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>Thanks for posting those awesome pics Alan. Now I want to just take my
>camera and go home, and never show my face again:-).

You didn't see the two or three others I took for most of
those and discarded later:-)

The magic of digital photography.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile?
and Cambodia
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html
Laura@notmy.com - 03 May 2008 17:35 GMT
>>www.flickr.com - it is a yahoo thing so need a yahoo addy. Upload your pics
>>and decide whether you want them to be public or private. I keep mine
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
>Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

Alan, those are amazing shots.   I didn't read closely enough -- I
hope they are protected by copyright.  Perhaps you should try to
submit them for travel magazines.  They truly are spectacular.
Trinkwasser - 03 May 2008 19:19 GMT
>>>www.flickr.com - it is a yahoo thing so need a yahoo addy. Upload your pics
>>>and decide whether you want them to be public or private. I keep mine
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>hope they are protected by copyright.  Perhaps you should try to
>submit them for travel magazines.  They truly are spectacular.

Yes he's pretty good isn't he?

Especially considering the tiny little camera he (and Nicky) had,
compared to my five kilo shoulder bag stuffed with kit (plus a tripod)
Alan S - 03 May 2008 22:29 GMT
>>>>www.flickr.com - it is a yahoo thing so need a yahoo addy. Upload your pics
>>>>and decide whether you want them to be public or private. I keep mine
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>Especially considering the tiny little camera he (and Nicky) had,
>compared to my five kilo shoulder bag stuffed with kit (plus a tripod)

Thanks trink:-)

I've only got four from the visit to Ipswich district and
only one with you in it (testing Dreamfields:-). When I work
out how to do the private sharing on flickr for you and
Nicky I'll put them on.

The Fuji F10 is a magic camera for an amateur
point-and-shooter like me, but getting light levels right
can be tricky at times.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile?
and Cambodia
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html
Ozgirl - 04 May 2008 01:30 GMT
My son did an assignment on Angkor Wat and it was so hard to get decent
photos for it.

"Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message
Alan S - 04 May 2008 02:59 GMT
>My son did an assignment on Angkor Wat and it was so hard to get decent
>photos for it.
>
>"Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message

Bit late now to offer him a choice from the other 100+ from
Angkor, Bayon and Angkor Thom :-)

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile?
and Cambodia
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html
Trinkwasser - 04 May 2008 22:09 GMT
>>>Alan, those are amazing shots.   I didn't read closely enough -- I
>>>hope they are protected by copyright.  Perhaps you should try to
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>out how to do the private sharing on flickr for you and
>Nicky I'll put them on.

Strangely I have very few photos of me. I wonder why. One reason is
I'm crap at people in general, I lack the ability to catch them not
gurning, The other is probably because the lenses crack . . .

>The Fuji F10 is a magic camera for an amateur
>point-and-shooter like me, but getting light levels right
>can be tricky at times.

Big kit has two main adavntages, it's an order of magnitude more
controllable especially in difficult circumstances, and it produces
pictures which can be blown up to much larger sizes. At least with a
digital jobbie you get instant feedback and can redo the ones that
didn't work, if you can't alter the exposure directly can you do stuff
like expose for something lighter/darker then move the camera to take
the shot without changing the settings?

Disaster has struck today, I discovered that I'm almost out of film
and the website I usually order from has broken. :( I was
photographing trees with my ultrawide today and having to take care I
didn't get the sun in the picture at the top and my feet in the bottom
simultaneously . . .
Alan S - 05 May 2008 01:04 GMT
>>The Fuji F10 is a magic camera for an amateur
>>point-and-shooter like me, but getting light levels right
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>like expose for something lighter/darker then move the camera to take
>the shot without changing the settings?

Exactly what I do. On landscapes I move the camera to the
spot that seems to give the best pic, focus on that and then
return to the subject. On portraits it's a little more
difficult and I often use forced flash even in sunny
outdoors portrait shots.

>Disaster has struck today, I discovered that I'm almost out of film
>and the website I usually order from has broken. :( I was
>photographing trees with my ultrawide today and having to take care I
>didn't get the sun in the picture at the top and my feet in the bottom
>simultaneously . . .

I still have quite a good Vivitar film camera that I used on
my first trip. Not one of the quality you use, but good
enough for a point-and-shooter like myself.  

I had a disaster from the processing of the films from that
trip. I had CD's made as well as prints (cost a fortune,
more than the new digital camera I bought later) and the
idiot in the photo shop somehow covered many of the
negatives with dust. It took months of arguments to get the
negatives cleaned and the CD's remade, but even then many
were too damaged and the results are obvious when you look
at some of the pix on the blog. I had to use a
cloning/adjustment program (Micrografix Picture Publisher)
to correct many of them as best I could.

Digital is just so easy for me and orders of magnitude
cheaper. I carry a 512mb card in the camera with a 256mb
back-up and the original 16mb for emergencies.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile?
and Cambodia
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html
Lerp - 05 May 2008 02:02 GMT
> On Sun, 04 May 2008 22:09:05 +0100, Trinkwasser
>
[quoted text clipped - 49 lines]
> Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile?
> and Cambodiahttp://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html

Gone are the days of anticipating the developed pics when you open the
envelope...and alas - they did not develop and you pay $5.00 for black
pictures.
Alan S - 05 May 2008 02:52 GMT
>Gone are the days of anticipating the developed pics when you open the
>envelope...and alas - they did not develop and you pay $5.00 for black
>pictures.

Thank goodness. I just noticed that my numbers have
restarted at 0 after passing 10,000; I do tend to delete a
lot and keep the best. The camera was bought in 2006 just
before my second rtw trip.

My first pic on this trip was 6999, the last was 0184. So I
snapped the shutter 3185 times. Picasa tells me I've stored
2195. Many of those will never be displayed publicly:-)

After that first trip, developing over 40 rolls of film
(some 24s, most 36s) cost well over $600. The total cost for
transferring from camera memory card to CD's while I
travelled was less than $30 and I can be very selective now
that I'm home as to what gets printed. Another film problem
on that first trip was degradation from airport security
x-rays. Maybe one or two is not a problem, but my early
rolls of film went through over 20 airports. They showed
fogging and graininess, which became less as later films
went through fewer x-rays.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile?
and Cambodia
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html
BettyB - 06 May 2008 03:30 GMT
>My first pic on this trip was 6999, the last was 0184. So I
>snapped the shutter 3185 times. Picasa tells me I've stored
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
>Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

Alan, what do you use Picasa for? It came installed on my new laptop
but I have never used it.
--
BettyB  --  www.flamingo-code.com
"I have noticed even people who claim everything is
predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it,
look before they cross the road." - Stephen Hawking
Alan S - 06 May 2008 06:18 GMT
>>My first pic on this trip was 6999, the last was 0184. So I
>>snapped the shutter 3185 times. Picasa tells me I've stored
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Alan, what do you use Picasa for? It came installed on my new laptop
>but I have never used it.

I've got several photo-management programs, some left over
from old scanners and some from the camera. However I've
found Picasa useful as a simple adjuster for cropping,
straightening, light levels, contrast and saturation.

There are others that do each of those better but for
simplicity and ease of use Picasa is very useful. Mine is
Picasa 2.7

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile?
and Cambodia
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html
BettyB - 06 May 2008 17:00 GMT
>>Alan, what do you use Picasa for? It came installed on my new laptop
>>but I have never used it.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
>Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

Thanks, I'll take a look at it. I normally use ACD See to browse/cull
my photos and Photoshop to do clean up.
--
BettyB  --  www.flamingo-code.com
"I have noticed even people who claim everything is
predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it,
look before they cross the road." - Stephen Hawking
Trinkwasser - 05 May 2008 19:53 GMT
>>>The Fuji F10 is a magic camera for an amateur
>>>point-and-shooter like me, but getting light levels right
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>difficult and I often use forced flash even in sunny
>outdoors portrait shots.

Yes bear in mind the meter defaults to assuming a scene is 18% grey
(approximately East Asian skin tone) so anything predominantly darker
or lighter will be poorly exposed. Though modern meters are more
effective than that and may take the contrast of the scene into
account by doing lots of readings all across the scene and running an
A1c on the numbers, taking more account of the centre of the field,
etc.

>>Disaster has struck today, I discovered that I'm almost out of film
>>and the website I usually order from has broken. :( I was
>>photographing trees with my ultrawide today and having to take care I
>>didn't get the sun in the picture at the top and my feet in the bottom
>>simultaneously . . .

The website was running again today <phew> I'd assumed that some drive
by script kiddies were trying to crash as many sites as possible
during the long weekend and that it wouldn't be fixed before tuesday.

>I still have quite a good Vivitar film camera that I used on
>my first trip. Not one of the quality you use, but good
>enough for a point-and-shooter like myself.  

How did you get on taking the film through customs?

>I had a disaster from the processing of the films from that
>trip. I had CD's made as well as prints (cost a fortune,
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>cloning/adjustment program (Micrografix Picture Publisher)
>to correct many of them as best I could.

<shudder> spotting out HAS to be the worst job in the world. I vacuum
everything in sight then use a CO2 blower to clean the film before
scanning it, and for older films I use a setting in the scanner driver
that detects dust using IR and eliminates the specks (which takes a
while)

>Digital is just so easy for me and orders of magnitude
>cheaper. I carry a 512mb card in the camera with a 256mb
>back-up and the original 16mb for emergencies.

Photography is the art of compromise. What I want is a 50 megapixel
camera with (35mm equivalent) 12 - 500mm F2 zoom which folds up and
goes in my pocket. What I'd settle for is a Horseman 5x4 and a troupe
of porters to carry it and all its lenses. What I've got works for my
circumstances. If I was travelling the world I'd probably get
something much like yours.
Alan S - 06 May 2008 01:26 GMT
>>I still have quite a good Vivitar film camera that I used on
>>my first trip. Not one of the quality you use, but good
>>enough for a point-and-shooter like myself.  
>
>How did you get on taking the film through customs?

Customs was no problem. Security x-rays were. I mentioned
elsewhere the fogging and graininess I had on films that
went through multiple times.

I only checked them once because I usually kept them in
carry-on to minimise the chance of loss. Checking was worse
- they use a high-power x-ray for checked bags in many
airports these days.

This time I made duplicate CD's as I filled each XD card,
kept one and mailed one home.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile?
and Cambodia
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html
Trinkwasser - 06 May 2008 19:52 GMT
>>>I still have quite a good Vivitar film camera that I used on
>>>my first trip. Not one of the quality you use, but good
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>elsewhere the fogging and graininess I had on films that
>went through multiple times.

Yes that was what I meant. I hadn't read that before I posted my
question.

>I only checked them once because I usually kept them in
>carry-on to minimise the chance of loss. Checking was worse
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>This time I made duplicate CD's as I filled each XD card,
>kept one and mailed one home.

Yes that's the way to do it. I think if I go abroad again I'll go
digital.

Time was when Customs used to go through everyone's laptop looking for
Kitty Pr0n. Do they not do that any more now they have Terrorists to
look for?
Chris Malcolm - 07 May 2008 10:17 GMT
>>>>Alan, those are amazing shots.   I didn't read closely enough -- I
>>>>hope they are protected by copyright.  Perhaps you should try to
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>>>Especially considering the tiny little camera he (and Nicky) had,
>>>compared to my five kilo shoulder bag stuffed with kit (plus a tripod)

> Big kit has two main adavntages, it's an order of magnitude more
> controllable especially in difficult circumstances, and it produces
> pictures which can be blown up to much larger sizes.

Some of the high end compacts can produce images in good light (such
as daylight) which are as sharp and can be blown up as large as that
from amy DSLR (big digital single lens reflex camera). A few of the very
best in good conditions can produce images which only the very best
DSLRs can surpass in size, detail, and quality.

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Alan S - 03 May 2008 22:23 GMT
>>>www.flickr.com - it is a yahoo thing so need a yahoo addy. Upload your pics
>>>and decide whether you want them to be public or private. I keep mine
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>hope they are protected by copyright.  Perhaps you should try to
>submit them for travel magazines.  They truly are spectacular.

Thank you. I like them - but I'm slightly biased:-)

I've got 1200 others from this last trip; the family are
waiting in fear and trepidation for the "slide night"...

I'll use flickr for special one-offs, I think; I'll select
10-20 of the best or most relevant shots for each blog entry
as I write them.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile?
and Cambodia
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html
Ozgirl - 04 May 2008 01:32 GMT
>>>>www.flickr.com - it is a yahoo thing so need a yahoo addy. Upload your
>>>>pics
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> I've got 1200 others from this last trip; the family are
> waiting in fear and trepidation for the "slide night"...

Our family was like that but for a different reason! My brother has at least
one pic of every family member that they would kill to have destroyed! He
shows them often, usually when a new boyfired/girlfriend etc comes into the
fold :)
Ozgirl - 04 May 2008 01:26 GMT
>>www.flickr.com - it is a yahoo thing so need a yahoo addy. Upload your
>>pics
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Thanks. It worked:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/26250058@N06/

well done, good start :)
MI - 03 May 2008 04:11 GMT
On 5/2/08 6:15 PM, in article 681sooF2phpnkU1@mid.individual.net, "Ozgirl"
<are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote:

> On May 2, 5:16 am, "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_...@maccas.com> wrote:
>> "Lerp" <diabeticl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Put your stuff on Flickr so I can see it :) I am an amateur too, I mostly
> take family pics :)

Oh, boy. Can I relate to you. I bought a Canon digital before I went on my
holiday. I even managed to take a picture of my hand. I think (hope) I'm
getting better.

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Ozgirl - 03 May 2008 04:42 GMT
> On 5/2/08 6:15 PM, in article 681sooF2phpnkU1@mid.individual.net, "Ozgirl"
> <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote:
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> holiday. I even managed to take a picture of my hand. I think (hope) I'm
> getting better.

I have had a few hand/foot/sky pics :)
Lerp - 03 May 2008 05:02 GMT
> On 5/2/08 6:15 PM, in article 681sooF2phpn...@mid.individual.net, "Ozgirl"
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When I see the quality of photos some people take...I just want to
take my camera and go home.
Ozgirl - 03 May 2008 09:24 GMT
"Lerp" <diabeticlerp@gmail.com> wrote in message news:d0031e09-

When I see the quality of photos some people take...I just want to
take my camera and go home.

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Some of my contacts do brilliant stuff, they even get approached for
permission to use their photos commercially for a fee. I am really just
looking at creating a history of my family.
Lerp - 03 May 2008 11:40 GMT
> "Lerp" <diabeticl...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:d0031e09-
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> permission to use their photos commercially for a fee. I am really just
> looking at creating a history of my family.

No matter what a person is wanting to do with photography, it is a lot
of fun. Digital cameras are remarkable: instant feedback on your shot,
prints are readily available of any shot, editing photos is as easy as
1-2-3.

I considered selling my old Canon AE-1 with a nice zoom lens on Ebay:
Going price - $25.00. I saw that and said "WHAT?" This is over $600
worth of stuff here!
Ozgirl - 03 May 2008 11:46 GMT
On May 3, 4:24 am, "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_...@maccas.com> wrote:
> "Lerp" <diabeticl...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:d0031e09-
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> permission to use their photos commercially for a fee. I am really just
> looking at creating a history of my family.

No matter what a person is wanting to do with photography, it is a lot
of fun. Digital cameras are remarkable: instant feedback on your shot,
prints are readily available of any shot, editing photos is as easy as
1-2-3.

I considered selling my old Canon AE-1 with a nice zoom lens on Ebay:
Going price - $25.00. I saw that and said "WHAT?" This is over $600
worth of stuff here!

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I'd rather give away than bother selling for $25.
Lerp - 03 May 2008 22:36 GMT
> On May 3, 4:24 am, "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_...@maccas.com> wrote:
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> I'd rather give away than bother selling for $25.

Me too. That is why I never bothered selling it. A buddy of mine has a
standing offer of $40.00 for it. At this point, since film is becoming
obsolete, I may have a valuable collectors item in 10 years!
Trinkwasser - 03 May 2008 19:21 GMT
>> "Lerp" <diabeticl...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:d0031e09-
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>Going price - $25.00. I saw that and said "WHAT?" This is over $600
>worth of stuff here!

Sad isn't it? My vintage Canon A1 and lenses were somewhat battered
but I inherited an absolutely mint AE1 from my late father, with the
classic 50mm f1.4 and some other bits. All now worth next to sod all.
Laura@notmy.com - 04 May 2008 00:42 GMT
>>> "Lerp" <diabeticl...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:d0031e09-
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>but I inherited an absolutely mint AE1 from my late father, with the
>classic 50mm f1.4 and some other bits. All now worth next to sod all.

Trink,

I have one of each.  I couldn't give up my AE1, nor my manual rebel.
There is something so personal about film, especially for those who
relish the control factor of the old school camera (yes the new ones
can go manual, but with all the bells and whistles, the siren song of
autopilot is soooo inviting) and yes, the anticipation of getting the
roll developed into print or slides.  Like the car buff who still
loves the greasing of the gears and the setting of the timing chain to
make that monster engine roar how can that compare to the cars now
that practically know when you blink.

There is value in the mechanics of the old school camera.  As much
value as there is in knowing how to use a slide rule when the rest of
the world is tapping into thier scientific calculators.  Or even (as
distressing as it is!) knowing how to read and write a proper equation
as opposed to knowing which buttons to press to do Algebra two.

My daughter was signed up for algebra II.  We were told she needed a
scientific calculator.  Turned out we bought the wrong one.  When we
asked why it wasn't sufficient the answer from the instructor was:  I
don't know how to teach from that calculators manual.

We withdrew her from the class.  We were enrolling her to learn how to
work the numbers -- not the calculcuator!   (grrrr)
Lerp - 04 May 2008 01:06 GMT
On May 3, 7:42 pm, La...@notmy.com wrote:
> On Sat, 03 May 2008 19:21:44 +0100, Trinkwasser
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Recently at a grocery store a high school student asked me as we
walked through the checkout line if I was good at math. I replied..."I
can do pretty good". Then she shocked me and asked me: "What is 16 +
16?" I almost laughed, but I know that todays kids use technology for
math. I politely answered her, and then when I left the store I asked
myself why the people in my city continue passing school levys.
Trinkwasser - 04 May 2008 22:25 GMT
>Recently at a grocery store a high school student asked me as we
>walked through the checkout line if I was good at math. I replied..."I
>can do pretty good". Then she shocked me and asked me: "What is 16 +
>16?" I almost laughed, but I know that todays kids use technology for
>math. I politely answered her, and then when I left the store I asked
>myself why the people in my city continue passing school levys.

hahahaha you would also like my mother, sometimes she will ask the
till girls questions like that

Quite often they actually know the answer, which is good. Some of them
are graduates. . .
Alan S - 05 May 2008 01:09 GMT
>>Recently at a grocery store a high school student asked me as we
>>walked through the checkout line if I was good at math. I replied..."I
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>Quite often they actually know the answer, which is good. Some of them
>are graduates. . .

It never ceases to startle me when check-out operators are
confused when I assist with change. In Hawaii I paid a bill
of $9.77, so I gave the cashier $10.02 and asked for a
quarter change as I didn't want to add to the multitude of
small coins in my pocket.

She was totally confused and had to check a calculator to be
sure I wasn't trying to cheat her.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Trinkwasser - 04 May 2008 22:23 GMT
>>>> "Lerp" <diabeticl...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:d0031e09-
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>make that monster engine roar how can that compare to the cars now
>that practically know when you blink.

Yes I know what you mean. I took a lot of persuading to use autofocus
with my current EOS 33, I've gotten used to it now but sometimes it's
nexessary to override it. Fortunately its workings are otherwise very
similar to the A1 (sadly the shutter had begun to crap out and the
lenses were somewhat battered so it was due for replacement anyway).
New lenses *are* an order of magnitude better though IME, and the
meter is somewhat more accurate so it's a good compromise between the
old and the "it's supposed to be automatic but actually you have to
press this button".

I was talking to someone with a Canon 5D today, I'm almost persuaded
that I might spring for its replacement when it comes out, image
quality is now up around the same as film - until you see what someone
does with a 5x4 camera . . .

>There is value in the mechanics of the old school camera.  As much
>value as there is in knowing how to use a slide rule when the rest of
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>We withdrew her from the class.  We were enrolling her to learn how to
>work the numbers -- not the calculcuator!   (grrrr)

You would like my mother. As an ex-teacher she was and still is very
hot on knowing things and knowing how to do things for yourself.
Oleg Lego - 03 May 2008 05:10 GMT
>> On May 1, 2:36 pm, "%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>from the refridgerator too. I think I can get my A1C even lower if I
>keep trying to nail down my new hobby.

I highly recommend http://www.photosig.com where you can look at
pictures by others, read reviews suggestions to improve them. You can
also post your own pictures, and folks will tell you how they are, and
how to improve them. I'm lar3ry on there.

As well, http://www.dpreview.com/forums/ has a lot of forums oriented
toward different cameras, and the folks there will give you advice on
using your particular camera as well as tips to improve your shots.

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Lerp - 03 May 2008 12:13 GMT
> >> "Lerp" <diabeticl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I plan to sign up for both sites. Thanks for posting them, they are
excellent. I am glad for the Web. 30 years ago, learning would be much
harder and more expensive too.
Ozgirl - 04 May 2008 01:25 GMT
On May 3, 12:10 am, Oleg Lego  <r...@atatatat.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2 May 2008 14:55:15 -0700 (PDT), Lerp posted:
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I plan to sign up for both sites. Thanks for posting them, they are
excellent. I am glad for the Web. 30 years ago, learning would be much
harder and more expensive too.

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30 years ago today, the first spam was sent.
Lerp - 04 May 2008 01:33 GMT
> On May 3, 12:10 am, Oleg Lego  <r...@atatatat.com> wrote:
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To think I used to like to eat spam...
Trinkwasser - 04 May 2008 22:32 GMT
>On May 3, 12:10 am, Oleg Lego  <r...@atatatat.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 2 May 2008 14:55:15 -0700 (PDT), Lerp posted:

>> I highly recommendhttp://www.photosig.comwhere you can look at
>> pictures by others, read reviews suggestions to improve them. You can
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>excellent. I am glad for the Web. 30 years ago, learning would be much
>harder and more expensive too.

Let me add

http://luminous-landscape.com/

One of my favourite sites for reviews

http://www.photo-i.co.uk/

Plus of course a few gazillion others

In fact you could easily spend more time reading about photography on
the web than actually doing stuff
Chris Malcolm - 06 May 2008 01:33 GMT
>>> On May 1, 2:36 pm, "%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>from the refridgerator too. I think I can get my A1C even lower if I
>>keep trying to nail down my new hobby.

> I highly recommend http://www.photosig.com where you can look at
> pictures by others, read reviews suggestions to improve them. You can
> also post your own pictures, and folks will tell you how they are, and
> how to improve them. I'm lar3ry on there.

> As well, http://www.dpreview.com/forums/ has a lot of forums oriented
> toward different cameras, and the folks there will give you advice on
> using your particular camera as well as tips to improve your shots.

I find Flickr very good for that kind of things as well. I've met a
few enthusiasts for my particular odd camera who've taught me a lot. I
belong to some very educational groups concerned with specific kinds
of photography I'm interested in. And last but certainly not least
through Flickr I've made friends with a few dozen local photographers
who sometimes meet for specifically photographically educational
topics, sometimes just to roam around interesting places with our
cameras, and sometimes just for a social meet.

Quite apart from verbal criticism, it's very helpful being able to
find other photographs of what you've just photographed, and work out
why they're better :-) Flickr has a variety of ways of tagging
photographs, including geotagging, which makes that very easy.

It's also very good for my blood sugar levels and general fitness to
spend hours walking around with a camera :-)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/chris_malcolm/

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Robert Miles - 03 May 2008 17:46 GMT
On May 2, 5:16 am, "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_...@maccas.com> wrote:
> "Lerp" <diabeticl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Where have you been?

Thanks for asking. I just purchased a digital Canon camera, and I have
been spending a great deal of time trying to grasp photography. Bottom
line: I stink at it. I am learning though. It keeps me busy and away
from the refridgerator too. I think I can get my A1C even lower if I
keep trying to nail down my new hobby.
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There are a few newsgroups with names beginning with alt.binaries.pictures.
that can offer help with that hobby and give you places to send your
pictures.
Johnnie McCoy - 07 May 2008 00:51 GMT
> happy i don't get no cake to me

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

John
 
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