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Flathman - 30 Apr 2008 15:07 GMT have any of you experienced loss of hair on your arms/legs? My glucose levels have been tightly "controlled" - within the 4.9 - 5.2 A1c range for more than a year, I walk at a fast pace every day. and my cholesterol levels are quite good (HDL=63). The only thing different is that I recently STOPPED SMOKING - with the help of Chantix.
Jackie T2 since 12/2005 D&E Metformin 500 2x last A1c 5.2 (Feb 2008)
John Inzer - 30 Apr 2008 16:30 GMT > have any of you experienced loss of hair on your arms/legs? > My glucose levels have been tightly "controlled" - within the 4.9 - [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > D&E Metformin 500 2x > last A1c 5.2 (Feb 2008) ============================== Interesting that you should mention that... my legs look like I shave them...no hair what-so-ever. The nurse at my Drs. office said wished her legs were bald :o)
And BTW my readings are in the non- diabetic range also. I'm thinking old age has more to do with the lack of hair than Diabetes does.
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Nicky - 30 Apr 2008 18:45 GMT >have any of you experienced loss of hair on your arms/legs? Loss of hair on my toes was one of the ways I knew I had neuropathy... it's all grown back, I never thought I'd be happy about that :P
What are your one-hour post meal readings like? Good A1cs can mask a lot of damaging swings.
Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
Flathman - 30 Apr 2008 19:42 GMT Nicky: Good thinking, however, I am an advocate of Dr Richard Bernstein's healthy eating, i.e., low carb.. I get my carbs from a variety of low carb veggies. No pasta, rice, corn, potatoes, cookies, cakes, fruit, etc. though I will sometimes splurge on a strawberry or a small section of an orange. The only time I test after 1 and/or 2 hours is if I am trying something new/different or if I feel "weird". The only time I have had a reading over 130 is when there was hand cream or soap residue on my finger
>>have any of you experienced loss of hair on your arms/legs? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > D&E, 100ug thyroxine > Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 Alan S - 30 Apr 2008 23:44 GMT >Nicky: >Good thinking, however, I am an advocate of Dr Richard Bernstein's healthy [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >The only time I have had a reading over 130 is when there was hand cream or >soap residue on my finger I wish I could help, but I haven't lost any hair since diagnosis. I doubt I could afford to lose any more... http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/4520/4355/1600/s2006-07-15%20008%20A.jpg
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile? and Cambodia http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html
Ozgirl - 01 May 2008 01:42 GMT >>Nicky: >>Good thinking, however, I am an advocate of Dr Richard Bernstein's healthy [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > diagnosis. I doubt I could afford to lose any more... > http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/4520/4355/1600/s2006-07-15%20008%20A.jpg If you lose one more hair you won't be recognisable :)
Alan S - 01 May 2008 02:25 GMT >>>Nicky: >>>Good thinking, however, I am an advocate of Dr Richard Bernstein's healthy [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >If you lose one more hair you won't be recognisable :) Thanks muchly for that...
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile? and Cambodia http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html
Ozgirl - 01 May 2008 03:13 GMT >>>>Nicky: >>>>Good thinking, however, I am an advocate of Dr Richard Bernstein's [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> > Thanks muchly for that... hee hee I was actually thinking of an episode from The Simpson's :) Homer had 3 hairs and the barber cut one too many and he shrieked that now, no one would recognise him! ;)
Alan S - 01 May 2008 04:35 GMT >>>>>Nicky: >>>>>Good thinking, however, I am an advocate of Dr Richard Bernstein's [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >had 3 hairs and the barber cut one too many and he shrieked that now, no one >would recognise him! ;) Wonderful - now I'm being compared to Homer. Next compliment?
:-))
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile? and Cambodia http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html
Ozgirl - 01 May 2008 07:52 GMT >>>>>>Nicky: >>>>>>Good thinking, however, I am an advocate of Dr Richard Bernstein's [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > :-)) Do you scratch and drink beer?
Alan S - 01 May 2008 14:05 GMT >>>>>>>Nicky: >>>>>>>Good thinking, however, I am an advocate of Dr Richard Bernstein's [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > >Do you scratch and drink beer? Depends. Simultanously or consecutively?
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile? and Cambodia http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html
jacquie - 01 May 2008 02:07 GMT You have more hair than my hubby does:)
>>Nicky: >>Good thinking, however, I am an advocate of Dr Richard Bernstein's healthy [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > and Cambodia > http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html Alan S - 01 May 2008 05:55 GMT >You have more hair than my hubby does:) You must be proud of your sexy spouse:-)
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile? and Cambodia http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html
jacquie - 01 May 2008 17:58 GMT I am..we will be married 40 years in July :) Jacquie
>>You have more hair than my hubby does:) > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > and Cambodia > http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html Alan S - 01 May 2008 23:26 GMT >I am..we will be married 40 years in July :) >Jacquie We too; on Mother's Day. Mutual congratulations:-)
Not many long-timers like us around these days.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile? and Cambodia http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html
Flathman - 30 Apr 2008 20:15 GMT Nicky: Good thinking. Thank you. I looked at my big toe.. no hair there either and not all that much under my arms. This is very recent. Perhaps it IS neuropathy. No pain, good color, and no apparent loss of sensation. What can I do about it, besides talking to my doctor? How long before it will grow back?
As for glucose control.. I am an advocate of Dr Richard Bernstein and adhere to a very low carb diet.. I get my carbs from a variety of low carb veggies and raw almonds. No pasta, rice, corn, potatoes, cookies, cakes, ice cream, fruit, etc. though I will sometimes splurge on a strawberry (or 2) or a small section of an orange. There have been times when eating away from home that I realize there was "something" I shouldn't have eaten (like the sauce/seasoning on chicken) - but not very often. I only test after 1 and/or 2 hours if I am trying something new/different or if I feel "weird"... anything over 20 points more than before a meal and I go walking as soon as possible!!! And whatever I ate goes on my NO list. Jackie
>>have any of you experienced loss of hair on your arms/legs? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > D&E, 100ug thyroxine > Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 Nicky - 30 Apr 2008 20:38 GMT >Nicky: >Good thinking. Thank you. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >What can I do about it, besides talking to my doctor? How long before it >will grow back? I've lost track of how many people are talking here, as we seem to have lost attribution - but I'd suggest that people go to their docs and request a range of neuropathy tests - the standard filament test doesn't pick up deep damage.
Bernstein's routine is, IMO, about as good as it gets - but if you're unlucky, it might still not be good enough to prevent diabetic complications. However, there are lots of other things that cause hair loss - from allopecia to thyroid disease - and getting a doc to rule them out would be a Good Idea.
In my experience, reversing neuropathy caused the hair to grow back; it took about a year once I'd got good control established.
Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
Flathman - 01 May 2008 02:18 GMT Thank you again Nicky.. Yes, of course I will speak with my doctor.
>>Nicky: >>Good thinking. Thank you. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > D&E, 100ug thyroxine > Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 Trinkwasser - 02 May 2008 21:06 GMT >>Nicky: >>Good thinking. Thank you. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >In my experience, reversing neuropathy caused the hair to grow back; >it took about a year once I'd got good control established. Just being male can do it. I'm finding as I age it isn;t making me any more or less hairy overall, just altering the distribution
Nicky - 02 May 2008 21:18 GMT >>In my experience, reversing neuropathy caused the hair to grow back; >>it took about a year once I'd got good control established. > >Just being male can do it. I'm finding as I age it isn;t making me any >more or less hairy overall, just altering the distribution <giggle> that explains the ponytail :P
Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
Trinkwasser - 03 May 2008 19:07 GMT >>>In my experience, reversing neuropathy caused the hair to grow back; >>>it took about a year once I'd got good control established. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > ><giggle> that explains the ponytail :P I started growing my hair long for two reasons:
[1] the temples were starting to recede, but since then they keep growing back and receding again in waves
[2] I had a girlfriend who was a sucker for long hair
However you will note that I did NOT let you look inside my ears, or outside my ears, or up my nostrils, or . . .
Trinkwasser - 04 May 2008 21:49 GMT >>>>In my experience, reversing neuropathy caused the hair to grow back; >>>>it took about a year once I'd got good control established. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >However you will note that I did NOT let you look inside my ears, or >outside my ears, or up my nostrils, or . . . Also I forgot to mention the giant pube (singular) which reached almost knee length before it disappeared, maybe I trod on it and pulled it out.
I was just remembering an antidepressant, can't remember its name, it was taken off the market for being generally useless except for a very small minority of patients.
Among its more bizarre side effects were hair loss *and* growing moustaches on women.
Quite why the same drug could have directly opposing results I'm not sure but the point is that many things can affect hair growth. For males and probably for some females testosterone is associated wih male pattern baldness, maybe also interfering with estrogen or progesterone, all hormones which I think have cholesterol in their manufacturing pathway.
Alan S - 03 May 2008 06:43 GMT >>>Nicky: >>>Good thinking. Thank you. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >Just being male can do it. I'm finding as I age it isn;t making me any >more or less hairy overall, just altering the distribution I didn't notice. Is yours starting to slip sown the back of your neck too...?
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile? and Cambodia http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html
jacquie - 30 Apr 2008 19:40 GMT I don't know what your age is but I know my husband's Grandmother stopped growing leg and arm hair at the age of 60. I still have to shave ...not often and the hairs are blonde and sparse so not to noticeable..besides I always wear jeans :) I know when I lost a hundred pounds I lost head hair and some DR's that my sister(the RN) worked with told me I was cutting my fat down way to much and that could have been causing the loss..but I was also having adrenal problems so that could have been it too:) Jacquie
> have any of you experienced loss of hair on your arms/legs? > My glucose levels have been tightly "controlled" - within the 4.9 - 5.2 [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > D&E Metformin 500 2x > last A1c 5.2 (Feb 2008) W. Baker - 30 Apr 2008 21:27 GMT : have any of you experienced loss of hair on your arms/legs? : My glucose levels have been tightly "controlled" - within the 4.9 - 5.2 : A1c range for more than a year, I walk at a fast pace every day. and my : cholesterol levels are quite good (HDL=63). : The only thing different is that I recently STOPPED SMOKING - with the help : of Chantix.
: Jackie : T2 since 12/2005 : D&E Metformin 500 2x : last A1c 5.2 (Feb 2008) How old ae you? It is something that has occured to both my 86 year old husband and my 72 year old self. Arm and leg hair almost nil and, in Syd's case, chest adn back hair greatly reduced. this has been going on now for man years, not a sudden evennt ust suddetly realized it.
Wendy
Flathman - 01 May 2008 02:25 GMT Thanks for your input Wendy. This hair loss is rather sudden (I remember shaving last week) so I suspect it might be more than increasing "maturity".
> : have any of you experienced loss of hair on your arms/legs? > : My glucose levels have been tightly "controlled" - within the 4.9 - [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Wendy
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