Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / April 2008
Defining A Low Carbohydrate Diet
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Jefferson - 28 Apr 2008 18:40 GMT In the U.S. dieticians and diabetes educators typically distribute dietary recommendations for daily macro nutrients. My meal plan of 3-20/01 was for 2200 calories and the carb content was breakfast 60g, lunch 60g, dinner 60-75g, and snack 30g. My way of eating since then is much lower in calories and carbohydrates: B 10-12 net, L 24 net, D varies, and snack varies. No real precision, but calories are less than 2000 and carbs are ~100-150 grams/day which maintain my weight at 154-160 pounds and body fat percentage near 17.5.
Based on the commonly seen nutrition facts labels, the initial meal plan recommendation of 210-225 grams would be less than the standard carb level seeen below. The dieticians and diabetes educators more than likely consider their recommendations to diabetics as low carbohydrate diets. Some of the experts in the field consider 50 grams or less a "very low carbohydrate diet."
"Two federal nutrition education tools use standard serving sizes: the Food Guide Pyramid and the Nutrition Facts label. The Pyramid was released by the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) in 1992. The Nutrition Facts label, which is under the regulation of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), has been required on virtually all food labels since August 1994. While both tools contain serving sizes that are standard–thus enabling nutritional and caloric comparisons of similar foods–serving sizes for a particular food are not necessarily the same between the Pyramid and the Nutrition Facts label." Source: Serving Sizes in the Food Guide Pyramid and on the Nutrition Facts Label: What’s Different and Why? - http://www.cnpp.usda.gov/Publications/NutritionInsights/Insight22.pdf
"The Nutrition Facts label lists the serving size of the food and the number of servings per container. It also identifies and quantifies key nutrients in a serving as a percentage of Daily Values (%DV) for a 2,000-calorie diet." The common shown nutrition facts label for 2000 and 2500 calorie diets have 300 and 375 mg of carbohydrate per day.
Understanding the nutrition facts label - http://www.fns.usda.gov/tn/parents/nutritionlabel.html
Alan S. and others have posted on food pyrimids in the past - http://tinyurl.com/6qcetp. One of the more recent threads was over a year ago - http://tinyurl.com/6lq2vq.
Since there is a good amount of turn over in ASD participants (and likely in lurkers), this may be a good topic to review.
Frank
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 28 Apr 2008 23:54 GMT Instead of dieting, it remains smarter to simply eat less down to the right amount:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart
Here is a simple parable given in hopes of promoting greater understanding:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
> In the U.S. dieticians and diabetes educators typically distribute > dietary recommendations for daily macro nutrients. My meal plan of [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > Frank Quentin Grady - 29 Apr 2008 08:29 GMT >"The Nutrition Facts label lists the serving size of the food and the >number of servings per container. It also identifies and quantifies >key nutrients in a serving as a percentage of Daily Values (%DV) >for a 2,000-calorie diet." The common shown nutrition facts label for >2000 and 2500 calorie diets have 300 and 375 mg of carbohydrate per day. Just to prove we are reading your post, I suspect that is meant to be 300 to 375 g of carbohydrate per day.
Best wishes,
 Signature Quentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading."
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 29 Apr 2008 08:36 GMT > >"The Nutrition Facts label lists the serving size of the food and the > >number of servings per container. It also identifies and quantifies [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Just to prove we are reading your post, I suspect that is meant to be > 300 to 375 g of carbohydrate per day. While folks have their scales our weighing the bread, it would be smart to weigh the rest of the meal in order to eat less, down to the right amount.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart
Here is a simple parable given in hopes of promoting greater understanding:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable
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http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Counsels
guardian Snow - 29 Apr 2008 08:42 GMT On Apr 29, 5:36 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> While folks have their scales our weighing the bread, it would be > smart to weigh the rest of the meal in order to eat less, down to the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > http://groups.google.com/group/i-hate-andrew-b-chung-mdphds-spam More fish stories from the chungster huh? speaking of scales...
Exo 20:4 “You do not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of that which is in the heavens above, or which is in the earth beneath, or which is in the waters under the earth, Exo 20:5 you do not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, יהוה your Elohim am a jealous Ěl, visiting the crookedness of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, Exo 20:6 but showing kindness to thousands, to those who love Me and guard My commands.
http://groups.google.com/group/i-hate-andrew-b-chung-mdphds-spam
do you support or dislike his spam???
http://groups.google.com/group/i-hate-andrew-b-chung-mdphds-spam
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 29 Apr 2008 08:57 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/OAF
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http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Counsels
Jefferson - 29 Apr 2008 21:09 GMT >>"The Nutrition Facts label lists the serving size of the food and the >>number of servings per container. It also identifies and quantifies [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Just to prove we are reading your post, I suspect that is meant to be > 300 to 375 g of carbohydrate per day. Messed up on units again. ;) Got me!
Yet maybe the 300 and 375 grams recommendations are part of the obesity problems in the U.S. since this is the suggested means of obtaining most of the calories.
Frank
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 29 Apr 2008 23:45 GMT > >>"The Nutrition Facts label lists the serving size of the food and the > >>number of servings per container. It also identifies and quantifies [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > problems in the U.S. since this is the suggested means of obtaining most > of the calories. It is the size of the "food pyramid" (ie the overeating) and not the shape of the "food pyramid" that is causing the obesity problems in the U.S.
Thus, it remains smarter to downsize the "food pyramid" down to the right size:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart
Here is a simple parable given in hopes of promoting greater understanding:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
guardian Snow - 30 Apr 2008 10:01 GMT On Apr 30, 8:45 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Over the course of the past couple of months, several boards have been lit up with spam by the 24 accounts used by Andrew B Chung. Heartdoc1 to Heartdoc 24 @emorycardiology.com.
Today for the first time in ages, I logged on and my front page on google wasn't filled with his spam. Does that mean that with the help of you guys, we compiled enough evidence that google took action this morning? Or did chung just take a day off? I'm not sure but anyway it goes, I could almost here crickets chirping in the silence of his absence and it was a beautiful thing.
If in fact he is gone, I certainly won't miss him and wish him well but also, will continue to be watching for a new incarnation of his spamming tactics.
I thought it best to say thanks for the support of all those people that helped out in putting down the nuisance... I hope I'm not speaking to soon...
http://groups.google.com/group/i-hate-andrew-b-chung-mdphds-spam
Ultimately, I wanted to apoligize because I too became guilty of spamming in my efforts to shut down chung. Again, thanks and let's hope that the last of it...
Good luck to all of you... I'll be leaving the site up because to be honest.. I don't think we've heard the last of him... I'm hopeful... I do think it's cool that believers and non believers, Doctors and others all worked together to put an end to it.
If in fact google has shut him down........ GREAT JOB GOOGLE! THANK YOU!
Take care,
Snow
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 30 Apr 2008 10:09 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/OAF
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http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Counsels
guardian Snow - 30 Apr 2008 10:20 GMT On Apr 30, 7:09 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/OAF > > <>< > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Counsels Heartdoc19 @emorycardiology.com
If I have to make sure complaints are filed on every account you own.. all 24.. I have all the time for you chung... I'm going to make sure your gone!
monkfish - 30 Apr 2008 15:04 GMT > On Apr 30, 7:09 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > all 24.. I have all the time for you chung... I'm going to make sure > your gone! Finally he got you completely.
 Signature monkfish * alt.atheism is removed from the header because atheists there consider quoting the Bible proselytizing and as such it is prohibited by their undebatable policy. -- The best way to handle spammers is to ignore them. But if you must reply to them, you should at least set the followup-to header to something other than your own newsgroup.
mortonmullens@hotmail.com - 30 Apr 2008 16:14 GMT > Finally he got you completely. Yes, that is what successful trolls like Chung do.
Sorry, monkfish you are no where near Chung as a troll - it is obvious as to what you are trying to do, but compared to Chung, you are a mere child.
I responded to all the groups, not the one you wanted - I am sure that works for novices in these groups.
Maybe with practice, you will get a little bit better at it. Someday you might even to get to be a Chung Acolyte or ass-wipe. It will be interesting watching you, though not as much fun as watching Chung
monkfish - 30 Apr 2008 16:36 GMT > > Finally he got you completely. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > you might even to get to be a Chung Acolyte or ass-wipe. It will be > interesting watching you, though not as much fun as watching Chung I guess atheists are very worried about me. Calm down. I am only subscribed to alt.christnet.theology.
Do you even know what god is while you are trying so hard to deny its existence?
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Phobos - 30 Apr 2008 17:19 GMT > Yes, that is what successful trolls like Chung do. yes, that is what Chung does and Chung-lites try to be.
Best response - Elvis has left the building.
monkfish - 30 Apr 2008 17:45 GMT >> Yes, that is what successful trolls like Chung do. > > yes, that is what Chung does and Chung-lites try to be. > > Best response - Elvis has left the building. Not good enough.
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monkfish - 30 Apr 2008 14:59 GMT > On Apr 30, 8:45 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > decided. > Tony Robbins You have become one of the worst spammers. You have been plonked by me a while ago. The only reason I even saw your post is I'm playing with several newsreaders.
The best way to handle spammers is to ignore them. But if you must reply to them, you should at least set the followup-to header to something other than your own newsgroup. It's almost mandatory in the KDE newsreader knode.
And, try to put your anti-spam message in the tagline, please. Otherwise you would be spamming yourself.
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Nicky - 30 Apr 2008 08:34 GMT >>"The Nutrition Facts label lists the serving size of the food and the >>number of servings per container. It also identifies and quantifies [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Just to prove we are reading your post, I suspect that is meant to be >300 to 375 g of carbohydrate per day. Heh - spotted - 375mg would count as low carb in my book :P
Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
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