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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / April 2008More Catch Up For Me - Cough & BP meds
For years I took propranolol for high BP medication. I was changed off of it because of diabetes, onto lisinopril. On that I developed a cough that stayed all the time & was never useful. I was changed off of it onto Avapro & it is working okay & the blasted cough is gone gone gone!  SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel : ^> USA <*> new WIN Vista user 06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 HbA1c 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg Current ................... HbA1c 6.3 "I don't usually feel this way at 11 o'clock in the morning." - Vivian, while kissing Cay; Jane Rule [born 03-28-31, died 11-27-07], DESERT HEARTS (movie) [1985] On Apr 26, 9:31 am, DonnaB shallotpeel <shallotp...@comcast.net> wrote: > For years I took propranolol for high BP medication. I was changed off of it > because of diabetes, onto lisinopril. On that I developed a cough that stayed [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > kissing Cay; Jane Rule [born 03-28-31, died 11-27-07], DESERT HEARTS (movie) > [1985] I had that cough for one day, a week after being discharged from the hospital last year after being put on lisinopril. The next day the cough was gone. I was taken off it a couple months later, after having BP too low after exercise. At one point my BP was 82/42 after a good workout at cardio rehab. John C. >For years I took propranolol for high BP medication. I was changed off of it >because of diabetes, onto lisinopril. On that I developed a cough that stayed >all the time & was never useful. I was changed off of it onto Avapro & it is >working okay & the blasted cough is gone gone gone! I employ red wine for that purpose (among others); SWMBO uses low-dose aspirin. Both methods appear to have worked very well. No coughs. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Latest:Valderee, Valderah. Or, I love To Go A-wandering... >I employ red wine for that purpose (among others); SWMBO >uses low-dose aspirin. Both methods appear to have worked >very well. No coughs. You each use those for high blood pressure control? Have y'all ever used anything else? I don't think it would work for me, but I'm glad if it works for you. I've begun to drink a little red wine since I read about the beneficial aspects, other than high BP, here. But, I don't think I could drink it regularly enough, even if it afforded enough control. Thanks! SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel : ^> USA <*> new WIN Vista user 06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 HbA1c 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg Current ................... HbA1c 6.3 "I had always said to myself that forty was the cut off point of my apprenticeship which may for some people sound like a very long one, but the novel as art is a middle-aged art." - Jane Rule [born 03-28-31, died 11-27-07] >>I employ red wine for that purpose (among others); SWMBO >>uses low-dose aspirin. Both methods appear to have worked [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Thanks! Time released potassium keeps my bp very low normal, after decades of labile hypertension. Magnesium and calcium help, too. A LOT. Susan >>I employ red wine for that purpose (among others); SWMBO >>uses low-dose aspirin. Both methods appear to have worked >>very well. No coughs. > >You each use those for high blood pressure control? Have y'all ever used >anything else? I tend to start with the simplest option and then adjust if necessary. Several things sequentially improved my blood pressure numbers over several years. Giving up smoking in 2001, losing 28Kg in early 2002, gaining control of my BGs in late 2002, then slightly increasing red wine consumption over '02 and '03. Prior to 2001 I varied from 130/80 up to 160+/90. I consistently read in the 110-120 over 65-80 range before my trip and I'm reading 125/75 at the moment (I use an Omron at home). SWMBO is teetotal. She found that normal low-dose (85mg) aspirin was too high and led to side effects. Over time we experimented and found that a bedtime dose of 45-50 mg works without any side pronlems. Her numbers dropped to be similar to mine form 150+/90+. As those work for us, we saw no need to try other meds. >I don't think it would work for me, but I'm glad if it works for you. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Thanks! A quote from my blog entry on wine; I stress the importance of #1: http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/2007/03/red-red-wine.html 'In essence I drink dry red wine for the following reasons: 1. I like it. That’s important. If you don't like wine, don't start. I shudder at the thought of having to "take it as a medicine". 2. It appears to assist in blood glucose control when taken with meals. 3. It appears to improve my cardiovascular health, based on my own lab reports since I added it to my menu after diagnosis. 4. Red wines include some specific benefits over other alcoholic drinks and white wines because of their unique resveratrols and flavinoids.' Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Latest:Valderee, Valderah. Or, I love To Go A-wandering... >>>I employ red wine for that purpose (among others); SWMBO >>>uses low-dose aspirin. Both methods appear to have worked [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >>aspects, other than high BP, here. But, I don't think I could drink it >>regularly enough, even if it afforded enough control. Well, as I said, I'm glad it works for you, but I don't think it would work for me. When I was first put on blood pressure medication I was in the Emergency Room. This had begun earlier in the day with my thinking I had a migraine, but a VERY bad one & somehow different, too. I went to a nearby Clinic, where I clearly freaked them out. They kept trying to get my blood pressure down, giving me something sublingual. Meanwhile they were getting in touch with my PCP who was one town over. He said to bring me on over. I think we knew to meet him in the ER & for them to page him in the hospital once I arrived. My partner drove while I tried not to moan, cry, cry out & to keep light & sound & movement from killing me. At some point I found out that in clinical terms my blood pressure was high enough for me to be dead. LOL And, that, as so many things are with me, that my bp was atypical. The whole schmiel was way too, dangerously, high, but it was my lower number that was the more frightening, not the top number. That was in the 1980s. I think that they acted conservatively. Those were the circumstances, though, of my beginning to take Rx meds for high bp. I was quite proud years later when I was taking a much smaller amount. That's where I am now. SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel : ^> USA <*> new WIN Vista user 06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 HbA1c 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg Current ................... HbA1c 6.3 "Bother," said Cmdr. Pooh, as Picard demoted him to Ensign. DonnaB shallotpeel wrote in message ... >For years I took propranolol for high BP medication. I was changed off of it >because of diabetes, onto lisinopril. On that I developed a cough that stayed >all the time & was never useful. I was changed off of it onto Avapro & it is >working okay & the blasted cough is gone gone gone! Great news Donna. If there's anything more irritating than constant coughing, I don't know what it would be. Cheri >DonnaB shallotpeel wrote in message ... >>For years I took propranolol for high BP medication. I was changed [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Great news Donna. If there's anything more irritating than constant >coughing, I don't know what it would be. Thanks, Cheri! Signature: ^> DonnaB Yahoo Msgr: shallotpeel <*> http://tinyurl.co.uk/h193 http://tinyurl.co.uk/wdp8 http://tinyurl.co.uk/byv9 "Bollocks," said Pooh, being more forthright than usual. >For years I took propranolol for high BP medication. I was changed off of it >because of diabetes, onto lisinopril. On that I developed a cough that stayed >all the time & was never useful. I was changed off of it onto Avapro & it is >working okay & the blasted cough is gone gone gone! AFAIK ARBs have a very similar effect to ACE inhibitors in terms of kidney protection and don't cause the dreaded ACE cough. Main reason they start with an ACE is cost, supposedly, but my then GP started me on an ARB initially. Some authorities prefer them for diabetics but I don't know what the basis of that statement is. Originally I was on losartan and was switched to olmesartan which is significantly cheaper, seemed to be more powerful at first. Mother was on candesartan which they stopped as she was also taking felodipine. No noticeable side effects on any of these, YMMV of course. |
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