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Diabetes is epidemic in New York City.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Apr 2008 09:38 GMT
http://home2.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/diabetes/diabetes.shtml

Diabetes is epidemic in New York City, fueled by the increase in
obesity nationwide and worldwide. In the past 10 years, the number of
people with diabetes in NYC has more than doubled.  An estimated
530,000 adult New Yorkers know they have diabetes. For every two
people who have diabetes, there is another person who has it and
doesn't yet know it, suggesting another 265,000 New Yorkers with
diabetes.  Since early symptoms may be mild or unrecognizable, people
may have diabetes 5-7 years before being diagnosed. Though serious,
diabetes can be prevented and controlled.

The Diabetes Prevention and Control Program (DPCP) strives to prevent
the occurrence of diabetes and improve the quality of care and quality
of life for New Yorkers with diabetes.

The DPCP has 5 key areas of work:

• Prevention of diabetes
• Improvement of diabetes quality of care
• Education
• Policy and advocacy
• Surveillance and evaluation
A1C Registry
The New York City Board of Health recently required the reporting of
hemoglobin A1C, a measure of blood sugar control over three months, by
most clinical labs that report electronically to the NYC Department of
Health and Mental Hygiene.
*******

Clearly life in America is life in a blessed feed lot:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

Thus, it remains much smarter to eat less, down to the right amount:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
guardian Snow - 25 Apr 2008 10:31 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/i-hate-andrew-b-chung-mdphds-spam

1Jn 4:1  Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits
whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into
the world.

CHUNG, ANDREW BEN-HUA
5701 MABLETON PARKWAY 2 B |
MABLETON, GA  30126
(404) 699-2780

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
different results.
Albert Einstein

Notice that Chung doesn’t address a single issue he’s been called up
on. Change the titles on threads he post, he’s a control freak and
hates it.

Make sure and complain about Mr. Chungs spams to Google, he is only
doing it to drive up traffic on his web site that he is attempting to
sell for half a million dollars to Emory University.  He is spamming
us to drive up traffic numbers at his web site and will not stop until
we all complain about his tactics!

Anorexia is a serious medical condition.  Your calls (Mr. Chung) for
people to "go hungry" and to "be skinny" are criminal and I advise you
to stop this immediately.

www.anad.org/

and

www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/

If you or somebody you knows suffers from this condition, seek medical
attention and DO NOT LISTEN to Andrew B. Chung.  If he persist in this
continued action, he won't be able to afford an Internet connection to
log on and spam us with the ridiculous statements that are being
delivered by somebody that claims to be in the Medical profession.  It
is irresponsible to dispense medical advice without even knowing the
condition of the people you are delivering the message to.

See to it his license to practice medicine is revoked in his state.
Don’t be fooled by Chung! He admits to not keeping his state
qualifications and while he likes to post a link to “Emory Cardiology”
in his post, the site that states it is a “unofficial web site as a
tribute” and in no way is an endorsement of him or his standing in the
medical community.

Dr. Yamantaka Says,
He is already under investigation by the State of Georgia for reasons
of dishonesty, mental illness and inability to practice up to minimum
community standards.

Mike Mordant says:
Other authorities may take an interest in his business practices
soon.  He'll owe the IRS somewhere in the neighborhood of $150,000
and
$280,000 for his sale of the emorycardiology.com domain.  It may get
treated as ordinary income, not a capital gain since he "remains
lawful steward."

To that Mr. Chung’s web site states:

“after receiving an offer from Emory University for less than its fair
market value, I have been moved to put this domain on the market so
that others may have the opportunity to purchase this high-profile
cardiology domain at its current market value.  However, this
opportunity is for the domain only and not the web content.  If
interested, please leave a message at 404.699.2780 (serious inquiries
with offers of more than US$550,000.00 only).”

In other words,  Mr. Chung is spamming us on usenet to create traffic
at his domain so that he can blackmail Emory University into paying a
ridiculous sum of money just for the domain name. There is very little
content on the site and nothing of any medical value.

So, don’t visit the site.  He’s just trying to drive up traffic
numbers to justify the cost and that is why he is putting dozens of
stupid spams.  They have nothing to do with the Christian faith and
everything to do with his desire to derive profits.

Mr. Chung says of his own qualifications,
>  Didn't you take the required exam for recertification last
> year ?

No.  The board-certification in internal medicine was required for the
fellowship training in cardiology.

> Cardiology is a subspecialty of internal medicine.  The cardiologist
> who treated me for atypical chest pain is board certified in both
> internal and cardiovascular medicine.

That is his/her choice as it is mine to not recertify in internal
medicine.

Dr. Yamantaka also stated:

Chung, you have shown that you are unable or unwilling to truthfully
answer the reasonable and straight forward questions that I have asked
you to address. Any practicing physician who repeatedly makes the
boasts and claims that you do on these newsgroups would be able to
answer these questions honestly.

This proves that you are lying about your medical practice and your
claims, both by omission and commission. You are continuing to be
pathologically untruthful in how you represent yourself and your
clinical experience. This is dishonest and further evidence of your
mental illness and personality disorder.

Chung, you are not an endocrinologist. You are not a Board Certified
Internist. I am.

"Black fat" is not a term that is used in medicine. . You claim to
offer measurement of VAT. How is it measured? What units are used? How
does one know when it is lost. Please site evidence-based, peer
reviewed sources that state that diabetes is curable upon loosing
VAT.
If you are unable or unwilling to give verifiable evidence to support
your absurd claims, then stop.
His license is already under investigation. Anyone wishing to add his/
her complaints about Chung's unprofessional behavior and absurd,
nonstandard medical advice can also contact the Board. It can be done
anonymously.
http://medicalboard.georgia.gov/02/csbme/home/0,2458,26729866,00.html

From the website of the Georgia Medical Board:

What is unprofessional conduct?

According to the Medical Practice Act, unprofessional conduct includes
"any departure from or failure to conform to the minimal standards of
acceptable and prevailing medical practice and shall also include, but
not be limited to the prescribing or use of drugs, treatment or
diagnostic procedures which are detrimental to the patient as
determined by the minimal standards of acceptable medical care."

In general, examples of unprofessional conduct include, but are not
limited to, physical abuse of a patient, inadequate record keeping,
not recognizing or acting upon common symptoms, prescribing drugs in
excessive amounts or without legitimate reason, personal impairment
(mental or physical) that hinders safely practicing within the scope
of one's license or certificate, performing duties beyond the scope of
one's license or certificate and dishonesty. The Investigations and
Discipline rules of the Georgia Medical Board, (Rule 360-3.02 and
360-3-.04), also provide additional examples of unprofessional conduct
for which a licensee may be disciplined.

File a Complaint
Composite State Board of Medical Examiners
Enforcement Unit
2 Peachtree Street, N.W., 36th Floor
Atlanta, Georgia 30303
PH: (404) 657-6487
FX: (404) 656-9723
http://medicalboard.georgia.gov/00/article/0,2086,26729866_27513604_27080031,00.html

About…

CHUNG, ANDREW BEN-HUA
5701 MABLETON PARKWAY 2 B |
MABLETON, GA  30126
(404) 699-2780
Physician Profile
040347     Active     08/03/1995     07/31/2009     Cardiovascular Disease/
Cardiology     NONE
Dancing Monkey - 25 Apr 2008 10:40 GMT
Andrew is a Cybersquatter.  He purchased EmoryCardiology webdomain in bad
faith.

For more info and the relevant law on this, see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybersquatting

Choong is nothing but a spammer.

http://groups.google.com/group/i-hate-andrew-b-chung-mdphds-spam

1Jn 4:1  Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits
whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into
the world.

CHUNG, ANDREW BEN-HUA
5701 MABLETON PARKWAY 2 B |
MABLETON, GA  30126
(404) 699-2780

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
different results.
Albert Einstein

Notice that Chung doesn’t address a single issue he’s been called up
on. Change the titles on threads he post, he’s a control freak and
hates it.

Make sure and complain about Mr. Chungs spams to Google, he is only
doing it to drive up traffic on his web site that he is attempting to
sell for half a million dollars to Emory University.  He is spamming
us to drive up traffic numbers at his web site and will not stop until
we all complain about his tactics!

Anorexia is a serious medical condition.  Your calls (Mr. Chung) for
people to "go hungry" and to "be skinny" are criminal and I advise you
to stop this immediately.

www.anad.org/

and

www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/

If you or somebody you knows suffers from this condition, seek medical
attention and DO NOT LISTEN to Andrew B. Chung.  If he persist in this
continued action, he won't be able to afford an Internet connection to
log on and spam us with the ridiculous statements that are being
delivered by somebody that claims to be in the Medical profession.  It
is irresponsible to dispense medical advice without even knowing the
condition of the people you are delivering the message to.

See to it his license to practice medicine is revoked in his state.
Don’t be fooled by Chung! He admits to not keeping his state
qualifications and while he likes to post a link to “Emory Cardiology”
in his post, the site that states it is a “unofficial web site as a
tribute” and in no way is an endorsement of him or his standing in the
medical community.

Dr. Yamantaka Says,
He is already under investigation by the State of Georgia for reasons
of dishonesty, mental illness and inability to practice up to minimum
community standards.

Mike Mordant says:
Other authorities may take an interest in his business practices
soon.  He'll owe the IRS somewhere in the neighborhood of $150,000
and
$280,000 for his sale of the emorycardiology.com domain.  It may get
treated as ordinary income, not a capital gain since he "remains
lawful steward."

To that Mr. Chung’s web site states:

“after receiving an offer from Emory University for less than its fair
market value, I have been moved to put this domain on the market so
that others may have the opportunity to purchase this high-profile
cardiology domain at its current market value.  However, this
opportunity is for the domain only and not the web content.  If
interested, please leave a message at 404.699.2780 (serious inquiries
with offers of more than US$550,000.00 only).”

In other words,  Mr. Chung is spamming us on usenet to create traffic
at his domain so that he can blackmail Emory University into paying a
ridiculous sum of money just for the domain name. There is very little
content on the site and nothing of any medical value.

So, don’t visit the site.  He’s just trying to drive up traffic
numbers to justify the cost and that is why he is putting dozens of
stupid spams.  They have nothing to do with the Christian faith and
everything to do with his desire to derive profits.

Mr. Chung says of his own qualifications,
>  Didn't you take the required exam for recertification last
> year ?

No.  The board-certification in internal medicine was required for the
fellowship training in cardiology.

> Cardiology is a subspecialty of internal medicine.  The cardiologist
> who treated me for atypical chest pain is board certified in both
> internal and cardiovascular medicine.

That is his/her choice as it is mine to not recertify in internal
medicine.

Dr. Yamantaka also stated:

Chung, you have shown that you are unable or unwilling to truthfully
answer the reasonable and straight forward questions that I have asked
you to address. Any practicing physician who repeatedly makes the
boasts and claims that you do on these newsgroups would be able to
answer these questions honestly.

This proves that you are lying about your medical practice and your
claims, both by omission and commission. You are continuing to be
pathologically untruthful in how you represent yourself and your
clinical experience. This is dishonest and further evidence of your
mental illness and personality disorder.

Chung, you are not an endocrinologist. You are not a Board Certified
Internist. I am.

"Black fat" is not a term that is used in medicine. . You claim to
offer measurement of VAT. How is it measured? What units are used? How
does one know when it is lost. Please site evidence-based, peer
reviewed sources that state that diabetes is curable upon loosing
VAT.
If you are unable or unwilling to give verifiable evidence to support
your absurd claims, then stop.
His license is already under investigation. Anyone wishing to add his/
her complaints about Chung's unprofessional behavior and absurd,
nonstandard medical advice can also contact the Board. It can be done
anonymously.
http://medicalboard.georgia.gov/02/csbme/home/0,2458,26729866,00.html

From the website of the Georgia Medical Board:

What is unprofessional conduct?

According to the Medical Practice Act, unprofessional conduct includes
"any departure from or failure to conform to the minimal standards of
acceptable and prevailing medical practice and shall also include, but
not be limited to the prescribing or use of drugs, treatment or
diagnostic procedures which are detrimental to the patient as
determined by the minimal standards of acceptable medical care."

In general, examples of unprofessional conduct include, but are not
limited to, physical abuse of a patient, inadequate record keeping,
not recognizing or acting upon common symptoms, prescribing drugs in
excessive amounts or without legitimate reason, personal impairment
(mental or physical) that hinders safely practicing within the scope
of one's license or certificate, performing duties beyond the scope of
one's license or certificate and dishonesty. The Investigations and
Discipline rules of the Georgia Medical Board, (Rule 360-3.02 and
360-3-.04), also provide additional examples of unprofessional conduct
for which a licensee may be disciplined.

File a Complaint
Composite State Board of Medical Examiners
Enforcement Unit
2 Peachtree Street, N.W., 36th Floor
Atlanta, Georgia 30303
PH: (404) 657-6487
FX: (404) 656-9723
http://medicalboard.georgia.gov/00/article/0,2086,26729866_27513604_27080031,00.html

About…

CHUNG, ANDREW BEN-HUA
5701 MABLETON PARKWAY 2 B |
MABLETON, GA  30126
(404) 699-2780
Physician Profile
040347 Active 08/03/1995 07/31/2009 Cardiovascular Disease/
Cardiology NONE
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Apr 2008 11:35 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppets

<><

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Warns
last_permutation@yahoo.com - 05 May 2008 14:14 GMT
<snip extemely long-winded obssesive rant>

A more healthy hobby perhaps?

Speaking of complaining to google, this is what I got
when checking your profile:

----This account has been banned because it violated the Google Groups
Terms Of Use

Funny.
2PD Dong - 05 May 2008 15:03 GMT
On May 5, 9:14 am, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:

> <snip extemely long-winded obssesive rant>
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Funny.

Funny that it doesn't seem to have limited his Usenet access. What an
omnipotent god you've got there.
last_permutation@yahoo.com - 05 May 2008 16:39 GMT
> On May 5, 9:14 am, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Funny that it doesn't seem to have limited his Usenet access. What an
> omnipotent god you've got there.

Huh?    Maybe you and the other nutzoid could get together and play
some
Beatles records over discussions about Chung.  Sheesh.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 05 May 2008 17:59 GMT
friend last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> > friend last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Huh?    Maybe you and the other nutzoid could get together and play
> some Beatles records over discussions about Chung.  Sheesh.

Even funnier, I am asking GOD through prayer to keep satan's
sockpuppets around just a bit longer to win even more souls over to
HIS side :-)

Clearly GOD is answering my prayers, in Jesus' name.

Laus Deo ! ! !

http://HeartMDPhD.com/LausDeo

<><

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Counsels
Guardian Snow - 05 May 2008 18:14 GMT
> friend last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Laus Deo ! ! !

Pretty bummed aren't you?  After all that effort to get me banned off
google just to find out it was a wasted effort and that I can still post
and you can't do a damned thing about it because FREE SPEECH may not
rule on google but it sure does on the USENET!

So.. why don't you confess to everybody once and for all that it was you
that got me banned..

I'm glad your happy I'm still here...:)

http://groups.google.com/group/i-hate-andrew-b-chung-mdphds-spam
Linda Lee - 05 May 2008 18:59 GMT
On May 5, 12:59 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> friend last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Counsels

LOL. God doesn't do what you want, you egomaniac. I notice all the
people you've threatened with death over the years ('you haven't got
much time left; the Holy Spirit is convicting you') are still all
here, so now you're trying to claim it is because that is what you
want, when clearly it is not your wish.

The Holy Spirit will convict you on Judgment Day for calling all
followers of the Messiah 'satan' etc. and praying that God bring God's
wrath on them. Google should ban you for your dangerous medical advice
(which disregards people's individual medical conditions), your
delusion that everyone except you is of Satan, and your constant
insinuations predicting early death for anyone who posts to you.
You're obviously dangerously mentally ill.
Guardian Snow - 05 May 2008 23:39 GMT
> On May 5, 12:59 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> insinuations predicting early death for anyone who posts to you.
> You're obviously dangerously mentally ill.

A frequent problem in history is a common thread that lies between those
who are in the medical profession and serial killers.  Consider the
likes of Jack the Ripper or Chicago's "Devil in the White City".

Devil in the White City was a little known Doctor during the Chicago
World Fair that started killing his patients and selling the bones to
Chicago University for classroom purposes.  When considering the
Antisocial behavior of Chung, we find many things to compare between his
reactions.

First off is the assumption that his will is, "The will of God" or that
of the "Holy Spirit".  Notice that he assumes the role of judge, jury
and executioner for anybody that doesn't agree with him. Public posting
of pages to attempt to shame then which he then repast links to on a
daily bases.  Not people like Mark (me) but CONVICTs or some other label
that makes them less human in his view.

His role is without question in his self deluded states, that of God.
He assumes that he is righteous in all his actions because of this delusion.

Then we have cases like Dr. Harold Shipman.

> http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/shipman/dead_1.html

> Raising the Dead
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Even when their contemporaries began dying in unusually high numbers, patients remained loyal to the murderous M.D.
> For as long as he spared them, his victims loved their doctor — to death.

When we consider how Chung "dehumanizes" people with whom he disagrees
with by not calling them by name but calling them, "convicts" and
labeling them "convict1", "convict2" or "sock puppets", "satans" which
means they personify evil...  Of which, I myself have earned a title of
besides the fact that I am in fact Christian and profess faith in the
Messiah of scriptures.  It bring to mind stark comparisons between "Dr.
Chung" and The Silence of the Lambs.

I have to wonder if he's not starving some poor girl in his basement
telling her, "It puts the lotion on".

This summery is particularly interesting...

"I'm the most cold-blooded sonofabitch you'll ever meet," said Ted
Bundy. "I just liked to kill, I wanted to kill." The hallmark of the
psychopath is the inability to recognize others as worthy of compassion.
Victims are dehumanized, flattened into worthless objects in the
murderer's mind. John Gacy, never showing an ounce of remorse, called
his victims "worthless little queers and punks," while the "Yorkshire
Ripper" Peter Sutcliffe brashly declared that he was "cleaning up the
streets" of the human trash.

In the 19th century, psychopathology was considered to be "moral
insanity". Today it is commonly known as "antisocial personality
disorder" or "sociopathology." Current experts believe that sociopaths
are an unfortunate fusion of interpersonal, biological and sociocultural
disasters.

Psychopaths/sociopaths are diagnosed by their purposeless and irrational
antisocial behavior, lack of conscience, and emotional vacuity. They are
thrill seekers, literally fearless. Punishment rarely works, because
they are impulsive by nature and fearless of the consequences. Incapable
of having meaningful relationships, they view others as fodder for
manipulation and exploitation. According to one psychological surveying
tool (DSM IIIR) between 3-5% of men are sociopaths; less than 1% of
female population are sociopaths.

Psychopaths often make successful businessmen or world leaders. Not all
psychopaths are motivated to kill. But when it is easy to devalue
others, and you have had a lifetime of perceived injustices and
rejection, murder might seem like a natural choice.

The following are environmental factors, psychiatrists say, which create
a sociopath:

    *
      Studies show that 60% of psychopathic individuals had lost a parent;
    *
      Child is deprived of love or nurturing; parents are detached or
absent;
    *
      Inconsistent discipline: if father is stern and mother is soft,
child learns to hate authority and manipulate mother;
    *
      Hypocritical parents who privately belittle the child while
publicly presenting the image of a "happy family".

Genetics

Tests are showing that the nervous system of the psychopath is markedly
different — they feel less fear and anxiety than normal people. One
carefully conducted experiment revealed that "low arousal levels" not
only causes impulsiveness and thrill-seeking, but also showed how dense
sociopaths are when it comes to changing their behavior. A group of
sociopaths and a group of healthy individuals were given a task, which
was to learn what lever (out of four) turned on a green light. One lever
gave the subject an electric shock. Both groups made the same number of
errors, but the healthy group quickly learned to avoid the punishing
electric shock, while sociopaths took much longer to do so.

This need for higher levels of stimulation makes the psychopath seek
dangerous situations. When Gacy heard an ambulance, he would follow to
see what sort of exciting catastrophe was in the making. Part of the
reason for many serial killers seeking to become cops is probably due to
the intensity of the job.

Genetics and physiological factors also contribute to the building of a
psychopath. One study in Copenhagen focused on a group of sociopaths who
had been adopted as infants. The biological relatives of sociopaths were
4-5 times more likely to be sociopathic than the average person. Yet
genetics don't tell the whole story; it only shows a predisposition to
antisocial behavior. Environment can make or break the psychopathic
personality.

When a psychopath does inherit genetically-based, developmental
disabilities, its is usually a stunted development of the higher
functions of the brain. 30-38% of psychopaths show abnormal brain wave
patterns, or EEGs. Infants and children typically have slower brain wave
activity, but it increases as they grow up. Not with psychopaths.
Eventually, the brain might mature as the psychopath ages. This may be
why most serial killers are under 50. The abnormal brain wave activity
comes from the temporal lobes and the limbic system of the brain, the
areas that control memory and emotions. When development of this part of
the brain is genetically impaired, and the parents of the child are
abusive, irresponsible or manipulative, the stage is set for disaster.

Can psychopaths be successfully treated? According to the psychiatrists,
"No." Shock treatment doesn't work; drugs have not proven successful in
treatment; and psychotherapy, which involves trust and a relationship
with the therapist, is out of the question, because psychopaths are
incapable of opening up to others. They don't want to change.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/tick/psych_6.html
Phoenix Rising - 05 May 2008 23:51 GMT
> > On May 5, 12:59 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> > <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 175 lines]
>
> http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/tick/psych_6.htm

"It puts the lotion on" ... :))
J A - 05 May 2008 23:04 GMT
> friend last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>> Huh?    Maybe you and the other nutzoid could get together and play
>> some Beatles records over discussions about Chung.  Sheesh.

> Even funnier, I am asking GOD through prayer to keep satan's
> sockpuppets around just a bit longer to win even more souls over to
> HIS side :-)

Good thinking.

Why don't you extend your success into winning over to Jesus,,  a
psychiatrist?

I mean, clearly, you have nothing to fear from a mental health professional,
and it would give you a lot of one-on-one time to work a miracle
conversion...

> Clearly GOD is answering my prayers, in Jesus' name.

Clearly.

> Laus Deo ! ! !
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Counsels
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 06 May 2008 03:41 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/OAF

<><

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Counsels
2PD Dong - 05 May 2008 20:19 GMT
On May 5, 11:39 am, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Huh?    Maybe you and the other nutzoid could get together and play
> some
> Beatles records over discussions about Chung.  Sheesh.

Maybe you and your skinhead buddies could get together and have a
circle jerk while watching Triumph Des Willens for the millionth time.
last_permutation@yahoo.com - 05 May 2008 22:01 GMT
> On May 5, 11:39 am, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Maybe you and your skinhead buddies could get together and have a
> circle jerk while watching Triumph Des Willens for the millionth time.

What skinhead buddies?  Ohhhh, I see that you occasionally take time
out
from Beatles stuff and watch a little TV like the good little dunce
you
are.   The "circle jerk" part...  I never really knew anything about
that;
only hear it sometimes made mention of by lowlife dunces on USENET.
Move along, I hear someone found a pair of Lennon's long lost
underdrawers.
2PD Dong - 06 May 2008 02:04 GMT
On May 5, 5:01 pm, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
> What skinhead buddies?

Whatever. Sieg heil, you shitheaded Jew hater.
last_permutation@yahoo.com - 06 May 2008 03:23 GMT
> On May 5, 5:01 pm, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > What skinhead buddies?
>
> Whatever. Sieg heil, you shitheaded Jew hater.

Aw, you're upset.  I used to know a dumbass loser
like you who was a pig and lived like a pig, but
he could tell people how many times George flexed
his left butt cheek during the beatles' first Sullivan
appearance.  Get with the program numbnuts,
it's 2008.

And what is a circle jerk.  What is the purpose?
Come on don't be bashful, shitheaded Christian
hater bigot.
2PD Dong - 06 May 2008 05:39 GMT
On May 5, 10:23 pm, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
> And what is a circle jerk.  What is the purpose?

Of course you would have no knowledge of this, seeing as you have no
friends and no dick.

My bad.
last_permutation@yahoo.com - 06 May 2008 19:20 GMT
> On May 5, 10:23 pm, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > And what is a circle jerk.  What is the purpose?
>
> Of course you would have no knowledge of this, seeing as you have no
> friends and no dick.

No peter pals is that's what you mean, Bungy.
2PD Dong - 07 May 2008 14:10 GMT
On May 6, 2:20 pm, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:

> > On May 5, 10:23 pm, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> No peter pals is that's what you mean, Bungy.

Snappy comeback. What language is that, anyway?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 07 May 2008 14:26 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/OAF

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http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Counsels
Guardian Snow - 07 May 2008 16:13 GMT
> On May 6, 2:20 pm, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Snappy comeback. What language is that, anyway?

I see my friend chung is still playing his games with people and one
thing is clear, he logs in via the google portal.

I think I figured out something about google.. I don't think human
decisions play a part in who gets "banned".  It looks like when so many
complaints stack up.. google bans the account automatically.  It would
make sense because there are to many to actually monitor.

ac1 @heartmdphd.com  (space removed) This appears to be Chungs only
real email address.

Of the dozens or so that he uses, this one that he links to on his
"press page", I would bet any money would be the one he actually uses.
So replies to his spam should probably be sent to that address if you
wanted to get a response.

Personally, I'm out of the business.  I think the best thing (in my
opinion) is to not post anything to chung but simply file complaints on
each of his post.  Course for those of you who do.. thats cool too
because then he responds with the standard two links and that gives the
rest of us a chance to file complaints in silence... until all his
accounts are gone.

I can say that we have been having an effect on chung because he's being
forced to use accounts that he hasn't posted from in ages.  One account
today didn't even have his name on it.

I like all of your advice.. and as long as we all work together.. we can
eventually get all his 50 accounts that I've seen so far.. if he makes
more.. we shut those down too...

I figure sooner or later....
Guardian Snow - 07 May 2008 16:17 GMT
> On May 6, 2:20 pm, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Snappy comeback. What language is that, anyway?

I see my friend chung is still playing his games with people and one
thing is clear, he logs in via the google portal.

I think I figured out something about google.. I don't think human
decisions play a part in who gets "banned".  It looks like when so many
complaints stack up.. google bans the account automatically.  It would
make sense because there are to many to actually monitor.

ac1 @heartmdphd.com  (space removed) This appears to be Chungs only
real email address.

Of the dozens or so that he uses, this one that he links to on his
"press page", I would bet any money would be the one he actually uses.
So replies to his spam should probably be sent to that address if you
wanted to get a response.

Personally, I'm out of the business.  I think the best thing (in my
opinion) is to not post anything to chung but simply file complaints on
each of his post.  Course for those of you who do.. thats cool too
because then he responds with the standard two links and that gives the
rest of us a chance to file complaints in silence... until all his
accounts are gone.

I can say that we have been having an effect on chung because he's being
forced to use accounts that he hasn't posted from in ages.  One account
today didn't even have his name on it.

I like all of your advice.. and as long as we all work together.. we can
eventually get all his 50 accounts that I've seen so far.. if he makes
more.. we shut those down too...

I figure sooner or later....
Guardian Snow - 07 May 2008 16:24 GMT
> On May 6, 2:20 pm, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Snappy comeback. What language is that, anyway?

I see my friend chung is still playing his games with people and one
thing is clear, he logs in via the google portal.

I think I figured out something about google.. I don't think human
decisions play a part in who gets "banned".  It looks like when so many
complaints stack up.. google bans the account automatically.  It would
make sense because there are to many to actually monitor.

ac1 @heartmdphd.com  (space removed) This appears to be Chungs only
real email address.

Of the dozens or so that he uses, this one that he links to on his
"press page", I would bet any money would be the one he actually uses.
So replies to his spam should probably be sent to that address if you
wanted to get a response.

Personally, I'm out of the business.  I think the best thing (in my
opinion) is to not post anything to chung but simply file complaints on
each of his post.  Course for those of you who do.. thats cool too
because then he responds with the standard two links and that gives the
rest of us a chance to file complaints in silence... until all his
accounts are gone.

I can say that we have been having an effect on chung because he's being
forced to use accounts that he hasn't posted from in ages.  One account
today didn't even have his name on it.

I like all of your advice.. and as long as we all work together.. we can
eventually get all his 50 accounts that I've seen so far.. if he makes
more.. we shut those down too...

I figure sooner or later....
last_permutation@yahoo.com - 19 May 2008 13:31 GMT
> On May 6, 2:20 pm, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Snappy comeback. What language is that, anyway?

English.  There was one typo; "is" should've been "if."

Maybe I can say it in a simpler way for your level of
understanding, Dong:   Unlike you, I don't have male
friends I get together with to play penis games with.
J666 - 19 May 2008 15:57 GMT
>> On May 6, 2:20 pm, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> English.  There was one typo; "is" should've been "if."

Well Bungy jumped at the offer and came back for s'mores.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 May 2008 21:57 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/117958cf266006d9?

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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/117245343707310e?
Father Haskell - 06 May 2008 08:01 GMT
On May 5, 10:23 pm, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:

> And what is a circle jerk.  What is the purpose?
> Come on don't be bashful, shitheaded Christian
> hater bigot.

Jesus and his 12 disciples = triskaidecagon jerk.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 06 May 2008 09:36 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/OAF

<><

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Counsels
Guardian Snow - 05 May 2008 17:43 GMT
> On May 5, 9:14 am, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Funny that it doesn't seem to have limited his Usenet access. What an
> omnipotent god you've got there.

What I find interesting is the fact that we can compare the way that
Chung post and what we find is that his personality fits perfectly with
somebody that is a serial killer.

I was doing some reading on the subject recently and found a lot of
similar traits shared by the two.

Antisocial Personality Disorder

According to Mike Rustigan, professor of criminology at San Francisco
State University:

    "With all of them, their motives tend to be total, deep and
personal. They feel no guilt, no remorse and have an attitude of total
disdain towards their victims.

    "There's a self-importance that runs in all of them. With the
Unabomber, for example, he demanded that The Washington Post and The
New York Times publish his manifesto. You get the feeling that if he
had just laid low, he may have remained on the loose to this day. His
own brother saw the manifesto in his home and he then contacted
authorities. I feel he felt upstaged by the Oklahoma City bombing,
which made everything he had done up to that point seem like nothing."

------------

When we consider that Chung labels his targets of wrath, convicts, sock
puppets and oafs... We see that he believes he is superior in many ways
to the people on the other end of his focus.

He is depersonalizing them and dehumanizing people in order to boost his
own self esteem, which appears to be completely lacking.

http://groups.google.com/group/i-hate-andrew-b-chung-mdphds-spam?msg=new&lnk=gcis

Now some people have pointed out that I've been pretty harsh in my
dealing with Chung but I think people have a tendency to ASSume the
person on the other end of these messages is as intelligent and mature
as the next person.

For Chung to sit around and call for people to "be hungry, hungrier is
better..." and all that garbage.. assumes that the person on the other
end is a healthy, normal person not battling with a eating disorder.

How many people out there see themselves as overweight and really
aren't?  It's reckless for a "doctor" to advise people in such a fashion
without knowing the condition they are in.

Thats what bothers me and thats why I took my stance.

Chung likes to be everyones judge and if you attempt to get into a
reasonable discussion with him his reply is always the same.. two links
and more spam.

Now google sucks!  Instead of taking any reasonable action to stop his
wide abuse of it's service.. it banned me.  Why?  Because I was trying
to bring a problem to the attention of google and Chung managed to use
the very same accounts I complaining about to get me banned!

I have yet to hear from google as to what policy I violated and have
requested in the platform to investigate his activity..

Nothing yet..

I don't think at this stage they will take any action and it makes
mockery of the service that claims, "We take all complaints seriously"..
Bullocks!

I must have filed dozens of complaints with them.. I started a google
group.. nobody has come to support Chung and in fact everybody has
agreed that he's nothing but a spammer...

So why am I punished?

Anyways...  Such is life.. I moved on and with the help of friends, I've
 figured out other things to busy myself with.

Thank you to the many people that have shown me support...  I respect
that you may not agree with my tactics but still realize that I'm not
trying to be a problem...  I'm trying to help represent Christianity in
a better light by not allowing a hate monger to go unchallenged.

Shalom,

Snow

Every person is responsible for all the good within the scope of his
abilities, and for no more, and none can tell whose sphere is the largest.
Robert H. Schuller
last_permutation@yahoo.com - 06 May 2008 03:26 GMT
> > On May 5, 9:14 am, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 98 lines]
>
> Snow

Tsk tsk, get some help Snow.
Nossy - 25 Apr 2008 17:08 GMT
There are very simple reasons for this. The cost of living is very
high, people need to try to have two or more incomes. There is no time
to cook proper foods. So people make do with junk food that is high is
simple carbs that shoot glucose way up. Of course we will have to see
what potential food shortages will do. The geniuses have removed huge
tracts of land from producing wheat in order to produce corn, causing
shortages and prices rises.

>http://home2.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/diabetes/diabetes.shtml
>
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
>
>Andrew <><
guys@consolidated.net - 25 Apr 2008 18:08 GMT
Shortages usually cause the consumption of a more
damaging diet.   Just switches the mode of the damage.

Mankind cause most of their problems.  Abundance
breeds arrogance.  Arrogance leads to social
destruction.   Then we cry like babies.

All leaders and no serfs leads to lower production
and waste.   But mother nature corrects all.

At least that is what the old Fundamentalist
preachers say.  :-)

>There are very simple reasons for this. The cost of living is very
>high, people need to try to have two or more incomes. There is no time
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>>
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Apr 2008 18:20 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
> There are very simple reasons for this. The cost of living is very
> high...

Actually, a high cost of living preventing folks from getting the
daily amount of food they need would actually eradicate obesity and
type-2 diabetes.

Instead, food remains relatively affordable here is the blessed
U.S.A., compared to elsewhere in the world.

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
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guys@consolidated.net - 25 Apr 2008 18:40 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 53 lines]
>
>Andrew <><
Dr Chung, I have seen the time in my life when I did not have enough
to eat.    My high school lunch was a moon pie and a Pepsi.

It is not the abundance of food but the ability to afford it.

It sure makes you appreciate what you have  later.
---
And get upset by arrogant people that are trying
to destroy a really good deal.

But hunger sure corrects arrogance

A common saying in my time was
            Fat, dumb, and arrogant.

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Phobos - 25 Apr 2008 18:47 GMT
> Instead, food remains relatively affordable here is the blessed
> U.S.A., compared to elsewhere in the world.

So that is why God created money so we can buy food.  God must be blessing
those countries whose money can purchase more.
Pastor Dave - 25 Apr 2008 21:52 GMT
>> Instead, food remains relatively affordable here
>> is the blessed U.S.A., compared to elsewhere
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>God must be blessing those countries whose money
>can purchase more.

Your smart a.s tone aside, that would be true.
However, the U.S. is headed for a downfall
and I'm sad to say, rather quickly at that!

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J666 - 25 Apr 2008 22:41 GMT
> The wages of sin is death.  Repent before payday.

What currency is used for wages of sin - dollar, euro, peso, shekel.
last_permutation@yahoo.com - 06 May 2008 19:27 GMT
> >> Instead, food remains relatively affordable here
> >> is the blessed U.S.A., compared to elsewhere
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> However, the U.S. is headed for a downfall
> and I'm sad to say, rather quickly at that!

I couldn't agree more.   Prices for the essentials
are really hitting the middle class hard.  I don't
see how to avoid the sh.t hitting the fan hard.

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Father Haskell - 26 Apr 2008 03:23 GMT
On Apr 25, 4:38 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://home2.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/diabetes/diabetes.shtml
>
> Diabetes is epidemic in New York City, fueled by the increase in
> obesity nationwide and worldwide.

Have you actually been to NYC?  Everyone over 175 lbs was
shipped off to New Jersey years ago.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Apr 2008 04:11 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/OAF

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Moishe Lippschitz, M.D. - 27 Apr 2008 00:58 GMT
It's due to all the fat jews and negroes.

http://home2.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/diabetes/diabetes.shtml

Diabetes is epidemic in New York City, fueled by the increase in
obesity nationwide and worldwide. In the past 10 years, the number of
people with diabetes in NYC has more than doubled.  An estimated
530,000 adult New Yorkers know they have diabetes. For every two
people who have diabetes, there is another person who has it and
doesn't yet know it, suggesting another 265,000 New Yorkers with
diabetes.  Since early symptoms may be mild or unrecognizable, people
may have diabetes 5-7 years before being diagnosed. Though serious,
diabetes can be prevented and controlled.

The Diabetes Prevention and Control Program (DPCP) strives to prevent
the occurrence of diabetes and improve the quality of care and quality
of life for New Yorkers with diabetes.

The DPCP has 5 key areas of work:

• Prevention of diabetes
• Improvement of diabetes quality of care
• Education
• Policy and advocacy
• Surveillance and evaluation
A1C Registry
The New York City Board of Health recently required the reporting of
hemoglobin A1C, a measure of blood sugar control over three months, by
most clinical labs that report electronically to the NYC Department of
Health and Mental Hygiene.
*******

Clearly life in America is life in a blessed feed lot:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

Thus, it remains much smarter to eat less, down to the right amount:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
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Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
Fartass Jewad - 29 Apr 2008 06:53 GMT
Fuckface like you will always be fuckface.
 
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