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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / May 2008Stay away from sugar-free Lifesavers!
I was itching for something sweet so I went to a pharmacy and they didn't have my usual sugar-free candies. I saw sugar-free Lifesavers and bought two bags. In the course of the evening I ate the whole bag (24 candies). Earlier this morning I had THE worst case of diarrhea EVER. I'm still plagued! I reviewed what I ate yesterday and the only thing out of the ordinary was the lifesavers. So... I looked at the 2nd bag of lifesavers and read the ingredients and I knew what everything was except isomalt. Well right below the list, on a line all by itself, was a mild warning: "Excess consumption may have a laxative effect" NO KIDDING??!!!!!!!!!!!! MAY have????????? Now, I pride myself on reading nutrition labels and ingredients but naturally assumed Lifesavers couldn't f.ck up candy. SERVES ME RIGHT! :( I'm going to my other pharmacy for the good stuff from now on. AVOID this candy like the plague. UNLESS YOU'RE CONSTIPATED! Just awful stuff! Sorry for the lack of pleasantries. :( Andy  SignatureT2 HBP Gout :) Sugar free candies kick up my appetite, are just as likely as sugar candies to promote overeating of the candies, and often have undesirable side effects that can ruin a concert, a trip, or my day. I don't think the whole story is known on the chemistry involved. My doctor says she and her family steer clear of them. As for the sugar-free Life Savers, I think you're describing the gummi variety, and there must be a lot of carbs in them to produce the chewy texture. I know for a fact that the sugar free Red Vines (red licorice) jack up my blood sugar. Uncle Enrico said... > Sugar free candies kick up my appetite, are just as likely as sugar > candies to promote overeating of the candies, and often have undesirable > side effects that can ruin a concert, a trip, or my day. I don't think > the whole story is known on the chemistry involved. My doctor says she > and her family steer clear of them. I don't get a sweet tooth urge very often. Those candies didn't spark my appetite and AM I GLAD they didn't! > As for the sugar-free Life Savers, I think you're describing the gummi > variety, and there must be a lot of carbs in them to produce the chewy > texture. No, they're the 5-flavored hard candy laxative Lifesavers. 4 candies = 14 carbs. 0g sugar. > I know for a fact that the sugar free Red Vines (red licorice) jack up > my blood sugar. I should've tested but I'm not about to repeat the mistake. ;) Best, Andy SignatureT2 HBP Gout :) >Uncle Enrico said... > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >No, they're the 5-flavored hard candy laxative Lifesavers. 4 candies = 14 >carbs. 0g sugar. Yikes! I think you're in Canada, right? I pick up candies at Superstore (can't remember the name) that are not sugar-free, but are only 2g carbs per candy. I find it easy to have just a few. I'll try to remember to post back here when I find out the name of them. >> I know for a fact that the sugar free Red Vines (red licorice) jack up >> my blood sugar. > >I should've tested but I'm not about to repeat the mistake. ;) SignatureLarry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada. DX 24 Aug 07. D&E Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 (4 Mar 08) > AVOID this candy like the plague. UNLESS YOU'RE CONSTIPATED! > > Just awful stuff! > > Sorry for the lack of pleasantries. :( Maximum recommended *daily* dose for isomalt (And a lot of the other polyols) is about an ounce. I found this out a few years ago in a similar manner. In the same vein, the sweetener used in Diet sodas has also been known to have a laxative effect. :-/ SignatureTciao for Now! John. >> AVOID this candy like the plague. UNLESS YOU'RE CONSTIPATED! >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > In the same vein, the sweetener used in Diet sodas has also been known to > have a laxative effect. :-/ No it hasn't. >>> AVOID this candy like the plague. UNLESS YOU'RE CONSTIPATED! >>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > No it hasn't. It has *in my experience*. SignatureTciao for Now! John. >>>> AVOID this candy like the plague. UNLESS YOU'RE CONSTIPATED! >>>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> No it hasn't. > It has *in my experience*. Maybe you're allergic to something in them? >>>>> AVOID this candy like the plague. UNLESS YOU'RE CONSTIPATED! >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Maybe you're allergic to something in them? It's only triggered if I go over my normal daily amount, & it's *all* the diet drinks I've tried with Nutrasweet in them. Same amount of fizzy or still water, no problem. Under the critical amount, no problem. Occams razor says it's the sweetener. Unless it's a preservative like one of the Benzoates, but they're not listed on all the labels & I'm not wanting to check that possibility with normal fizzy drinks for obvious reasons. <Shrug> Just something I live with, but wanted to warn others that it can happen. For what it's worth, I can tolerate about 50% more than the recommended daily dose of the polyol sweets without problems. SignatureTciao for Now! John. >>>>> In the same vein, the sweetener used in Diet sodas has also been known >>>>> to have a laxative effect. :-/ [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >For what it's worth, I can tolerate about 50% more than the recommended >daily dose of the polyol sweets without problems. What is your normal daily amount? Have you tried different 'diet sodas'? I recently changed from probably 20 years of drinking diet Pepsi (or on occasion diet Sunkist Orange or IBC diet root beer or house brand diet cherry cola) to Coke Zero. I'm very pleased. It doesn't taste as sweet, overly sweet as so many drinks. I prefer that. The 4th ingredient in it is aspartame. SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel : ^> USA <*> new WIN Vista user 06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 HbA1c 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg Current ................... HbA1c 6.3 Tree Pollen: 04/08-2655; 04/09-2787; 04/10-2805; 04/11-3238; 04/14-3327 "Why did Snoopy quit the comic strip? Because he was tired of working for peanuts." - Source Unknown > What is your normal daily amount? Have you tried different 'diet sodas'? I > recently changed from probably 20 years of drinking diet Pepsi (or on occasion > diet Sunkist Orange or IBC diet root beer or house brand diet cherry cola) to > Coke Zero. I'm very pleased. It doesn't taste as sweet, overly sweet as so > many drinks. I prefer that. The 4th ingredient in it is aspartame. A couple of litres of Diet Coke (The cherry & citrus variations are good, too) a day since it was introduced to the UK (Mid 80s?). The way I live & work, I don't trust the tap water while I'm travelling & not even at home really without boiling it, as there's not enough used in my flat to keep the pipework properly flushed through. I live on my own & am away for a lot of the time. Now & again, I go for other drinks, (Diet Doctor Pepper, sugar free Vimto & the like), but coffee (even decaff) has unfortunate effects on my digestion, the smell of tea makes me nauseous, & I'm not keen on bottled water. It's not a problem until I get over about 3 litres a day (On all the diet sodas I've tried, from the real cheap supermarket own brands to the top of the range stuff). The same principle as eating 2 packs of sugar free candies, I guess. ;-) Why stick to it? Diet Coke in (usually plastic) bottles, I can get at a lot of outlets in all the countries I regularly visit, always tastes more or less the same, & it comes in a sealed container that's more or less guaranteed sterile until opened. I know the Phosphorus content probably isn't doing me any favours, either.... Coke Zero tastes sweeter to me than the Diet Coke, & I'm not keen on Pepsi. SignatureTciao for Now! John. >>>>>> AVOID this candy like the plague. UNLESS YOU'RE CONSTIPATED! >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > For what it's worth, I can tolerate about 50% more than the recommended > daily dose of the polyol sweets without problems. I don't know what polyol sweets are. > I don't know what polyol sweets are. Shorthand I use for sweets that use the sugar alcohols as sweeteners, such as maltitol, xylitol & so on. Available as "sugar free" boiled sweets sold by weight in a number of dedicated sweet shops near me, & the sale is *always* accompanied by a warning from the shopkeeper not to eat too many at a time. Most of them list maltitol & flavourings as the only ingredients. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyol with a link to sugar alcohols in the page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_alcohols SignatureTciao for Now! JOhn. >> I don't know what polyol sweets are. > Shorthand I use for sweets that use the sugar alcohols as sweeteners, such > as maltitol, xylitol & so on. Oh. Okay. > Available as "sugar free" boiled sweets sold by weight in a number of > dedicated sweet shops near me, & the sale is *always* accompanied by a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_alcohols I don't know what a boiled sweet is either. >>> I don't know what polyol sweets are. >> Shorthand I use for sweets that use the sugar alcohols as sweeteners, such [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > I don't know what a boiled sweet is either. A British thing, made by moulding molten sugar (Or the sugar alcohol of your choice)in metal moulds. <Googles> They call them hard candies in America. Dunno why they're called boiled sweets, though, as there's no boiling involved as far as I can tell from watching them being made. Direct heat & a thermometer to tell when the sugar's hot enough to flow without caramelising. SignatureTciao for Now! John. >>>> I don't know what polyol sweets are. >>> Shorthand I use for sweets that use the sugar alcohols as sweeteners, [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Direct heat & a thermometer to tell when the sugar's hot enough to flow > without caramelising. Ah, okay. : >> I don't know what polyol sweets are. : > Shorthand I use for sweets that use the sugar alcohols as sweeteners, such : > as maltitol, xylitol & so on. : Oh. Okay. : > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] : > : > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_alcohols : I don't know what a boiled sweet is either. Hard candy, like lemon drops, etc, usually made form a boiled sugar syrup. Wendy >>>> AVOID this candy like the plague. UNLESS YOU'RE CONSTIPATED! >>>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> >It has *in my experience*. which specific sweetener, there are several being used right now. SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/type1and2/ http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" http://www.ratbags.com/dechunging/ "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . >>>>> AVOID this candy like the plague. UNLESS YOU'RE CONSTIPATED! >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > which specific sweetener, there are several being used right now. Nutrasweet or a blend of Aspartame & something else (I don't have a bottle handy to check right now, but Acesuflame K comes to mind, or possibly a saccharin derivative) for the ones that don't use the branded version. It's almost impossible to find anything else on the European market nowadays. SignatureTciao for Now! John. >I was itching for something sweet so I went to a pharmacy and they didn't > have my usual sugar-free candies. I saw sugar-free Lifesavers and bought [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Sorry for the lack of pleasantries. :( ALL sugar free candies that contain sugar alcohol can have this affect. Plus they contain carbs that can raise your BG. I never eat them. Never. Even if I need a cough drop now, I get the regular kind. The small amount of sugar contained in a single cough drop isn't going to affect my BG that much and it's better than what the sugar alcohol does to me. I was wondering about sugar alcohols. I have an appointment with a dietician tomorrow. That was one of the questions I was going to ask. I haven’t tried any of the sugar free candy yet. I did look at the packaging. It says it has a low GI. I too noticed the warning about the laxative effect. The better question is what are you doing eating a whole bag of lifesavers? A serving size has to be around 3-5 pieces. >I was wondering about sugar alcohols. I have an appointment with a >dietician tomorrow. That was one of the questions I was going to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >eating a whole bag of lifesavers? ?? A serving size has to be around >3-5 pieces. I do eat SF products, candies, and do use artificial sweeteners. I never have any problem unless I over-indulge - and that's true for me with 'real' food, too. Also, know that many of the newer SF candies do not use sugar alcohols. Instead they use Splenda. HTH. SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel : ^> USA <*> new WIN Vista user 06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 HbA1c 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg Current ................... HbA1c 6.3 Tree Pollen: 04/08-2655; 04/09-2787; 04/10-2805; 04/11-3238; 04/14-3327 "You learn in this business: If you want a friend, get a dog." - Carl Icahn DonnaB shallotpeel said... > Also, know that many of the newer SF candies do not use sugar alcohols. > Instead they use Splenda. DonnaB, Actually if you wiki isomalt, it's "supposedly" frequently paired with sucralose. Some magic combination or so it seems. I don't put 100% faith in wiki btw. Best, Andy >DonnaB shallotpeel said... > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >I don't put 100% faith in wiki btw. Understand, I don't wiki anything. SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel : ^> USA <*> new WIN Vista user 06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 HbA1c 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg Current ................... HbA1c 6.3 Tree Pollen: 04/08-2655; 04/09-2787; 04/10-2805; 04/11-3238; 04/14-3327 "Women and cats will do as they please and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein >I was wondering about sugar alcohols. I have an appointment with a >dietician tomorrow. That was one of the questions I was going to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >eating a whole bag of lifesavers? ?? A serving size has to be around >3-5 pieces. If she says that sugar alcohols may have a laxative effect *or* may ramp up your BG just like sugar (either is possible in different individuals) you'll know you found a sensible one both effects have been reported here Julie Bove said... > ALL sugar free candies that contain sugar alcohol can have this affect. > Plus they contain carbs that can raise your BG. I never eat them. Never. > Even if I need a cough drop now, I get the regular kind. The small amount > of sugar contained in a single cough drop isn't going to affect my BG that > much and it's better than what the sugar alcohol does to me. Julie, It was the first ingredient listed! :((( I had no idea. I "have a feeling" I took quite an overdose of the stuff. I just read about isomalt on wiki. Those Lifesavers should be categorized as a medicine not a candy!!! The first and last time I ever try isomalt! Best, Andy SignatureT2 HBP Gout :) > Julie Bove said... > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > The first and last time I ever try isomalt! My first experience was long before diabetes. We had samples of the stuff at work. I had some in the car, on a road trip. Hooo boy! Never again! Julie Bove said... >> Julie Bove said... >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > My first experience was long before diabetes. We had samples of the stuff > at work. I had some in the car, on a road trip. Hooo boy! Never again! LOL! Sorry, I couldn't help laughing. I'm not straying far from home today. Best, Andy On 4/17/08 7:49 AM, in article yrJNj.16067$vz2.2445@trndny05, "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote: >> I was itching for something sweet so I went to a pharmacy and they didn't >> have my usual sugar-free candies. I saw sugar-free Lifesavers and bought [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > of sugar contained in a single cough drop isn't going to affect my BG that > much and it's better than what the sugar alcohol does to me. That's what my endo told me. Eat a regular cough drop. The amount of sugar in one candy isn't going to hurt. Furthermore, the sugar alcohols give me a splitting headache. SignatureMartha T2 Canada 1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia >I was itching for something sweet so I went to a pharmacy and they didn't >have my usual sugar-free candies. I saw sugar-free Lifesavers and bought [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > >Andy The manufacturers weren't expecting you to eat more than a serving at a time. that's what 2 to 3 pieces? Isomalt is one of many "sugar alcohols". They all have a laxative effect, some more than others on different people. Personally if I want candy I eat the real thing. SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/type1and2/ http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" http://www.ratbags.com/dechunging/ "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . Màck©® said... > Personally if I want candy I eat the real thing. Màck©®, I'm a recovering SweetTart two roll a day habit. Except what's built into some foods, I've scratched refined sugar off my dietary list. And then some. SweetTarts do have a permanent place in my diabekit. I do have 1" squares of 85% cocoa dark chocolate a couple times a month. It's so rich that just a small amount is ultra-satisfying. It resides in the butter door of the fridge, where the butter used to be. [sniffle] :D Best, Andy SignatureT2 HBP Gout :) >I was itching for something sweet so I went to a pharmacy and they didn't >have my usual sugar-free candies. I saw sugar-free Lifesavers and bought [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > >Andy I would much rather eat candies like Gummie Savers in limited numbers that have real sugar. Anything that says it's "sugar free" and is supposed to be sweet that I have found has contained something else that I usually don't like. One thing, for instance, is ice cream with "no sugar added." Just read the ingredients and the total carbs per serving. The ones that I have seen actually contain more carbs then regular ice cream. SignatureGrandpa Chuck -ô¿ô- ~ The following information gathered from http://icasualties.org/oif/ I forward these statistics with the greatest degree of respect for those who have given the ultimate price. On April 11, 2008 the total of Americans killed in Iraq was 4032. United Kingdom = 176 Other = 133 Grandpa Chuck said... > One thing, for instance, is ice cream with "no sugar added." Just read > the ingredients and the total carbs per serving. The ones that I have > seen actually contain more carbs then regular ice cream. Grandpa Chuck, "No sugar added" only means they didn't add any sugars other than what the cream or other ingredients already contains. I buy fat-free milk but a cup of the stuff still has 14g sugar. Even the powdered fat-free milk has a similar amount. Same as the "no salt added" potato chips. "No ___ added" basically is a put-on (joke). It's almost enough to drive oneself crazy! <WAVING!> Best, Andy SignatureT2 HBP Gout :) >Grandpa Chuck said... > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >Andy Milk contains lactose. Most words that end in "tose" are carbs. If you look at milk there is almost no difference in total carbs regardless of what percent of butterfat it contains. SignatureGrandpa Chuck -ô¿ô- ~ The following information gathered from http://icasualties.org/oif/ I forward these statistics with the greatest degree of respect for those who have given the ultimate price. On April 11, 2008 the total of Americans killed in Iraq was 4032. United Kingdom = 176 Other = 133 >Grandpa Chuck said... > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >"No ___ added" basically is a put-on (joke). I disagree. "No ___ added" means exactly what it says, and it really is up to the consumer to read the nutrition label if you are trying to avoid or seek out particular nutritional factors. Yes, there are 14g sugar in your 1 cup of milk (there's 13g in mine), but it has nothing to do with the amount of fat in it. If they also said "No sugar added", it would still have 14g per cup, and could be construed as deceptive in the case of milk. In the case of other products, "no sugar added" would not be deceptive, if the category of product normally contains added sugar. Yoghurt comes to mind. I buy Danone Silhouette Cherry yoghurt; 0% fat, no sugar added, and it works out to about 8g. carbs per half cup, a long way from "normal" fruit yoghurts. >It's almost enough to drive oneself crazy! <WAVING!> > >Best, > >Andy SignatureLarry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada. DX 24 Aug 07. D&E Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 (4 Mar 08) >I was itching for something sweet so I went to a pharmacy and they didn't >have my usual sugar-free candies. I saw sugar-free Lifesavers and bought >two bags. I love the things. Since I discovered them & how good they taste, in terms of tasting like Lifesavers, the Original, <G> I have never eaten more than 1 or 2 during the course of 1 day. And, I don't eat them every day. I've never had any problem at all with them. I would respectfully submit that the problem is not with SF Lifesavers but with how & how many one eats. SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel : ^> USA <*> new WIN Vista user 06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 HbA1c 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg Current ................... HbA1c 6.3 Tree Pollen: 04/08-2655; 04/09-2787; 04/10-2805; 04/11-3238; 04/14-3327 "You think dogs will not be in heaven? I tell you, they will be there long before any of us." - Robert Louis Stevenson DonnaB shallotpeel said... >>I was itching for something sweet so I went to a pharmacy and they >>didn't have my usual sugar-free candies. I saw sugar-free Lifesavers and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > submit that the problem is not with SF Lifesavers but with how & how > many one eats. DonnaB, Good point/bad point. Who thinks twice about eating a roll of regular Lifesavers (12 candies?)? The BUMS!!! didn't have to design a medicine as they did and put it out as a candy! I easily overdid a good thing, granted, but who other than you eats two teensy tiny fruit flavored lifesavers a day? Best, Andy SignatureT2 HBP Gout :) >DonnaB shallotpeel said... > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Who thinks twice about eating a roll of regular Lifesavers (12 candies?)? Uh, me, for starters. I would have thought that most people would. >The BUMS!!! didn't have to design a medicine as they did and put it out as >a candy! It's not a frakin medicine. You abused the product. The product didn't abuse you. >I easily overdid a good thing, granted, but who other than you eats two >teensy tiny fruit flavored lifesavers a day? I would imagine plenty do. SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel : ^> USA <*> new WIN Vista user 06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 HbA1c 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg Current ................... HbA1c 6.3 Tree Pollen: 04/08-2655; 04/09-2787; 04/10-2805; 04/11-3238; 04/14-3327 "You can't lose if you give them handsome highwaymen, duels, 3-foot fountains and whacking great horses and dogs all over the place." - Barbara Cartland DonnaB shallotpeel said... >>DonnaB shallotpeel said... >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Uh, me, for starters. I would have thought that most people would. While true for you, I doubt you represent the general population, on either side of diabetes. >>The BUMS!!! didn't have to design a medicine as they did and put it out >>as a candy! > > It's not a frakin medicine. You abused the product. The product didn't > abuse you. It's got a laxative product in it. If they put isomalt in the regular Lifesavers do you think there wouldn't be a health protest? >>I easily overdid a good thing, granted, but who other than you eats two >>teensy tiny fruit flavored lifesavers a day? > > I would imagine plenty do. Like I said earlier, and it's a one time only experience (!!!), who wouldn't assume that Lifesavers couldn't f.ck up candy, but they did and hid that fact on the back of the package instead of splashing it on the front of the package. IT SHOULD BE A MEDICiNE NOT A CANDY! Sorry but I obviously put this post here for everyone but you. You have superhuman willpower to only eat two a day. Best, Andy SignatureT2 HBP Gout :) >DonnaB shallotpeel said... > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >While true for you, I doubt you represent the general population, on either >side of diabetes. I disagree. So, those are our stated opinions on that. Done. AFAIK, diabetic or not, it is never a good idea to sit down & eat a whole container of anything in one setting! >>>The BUMS!!! didn't have to design a medicine as they did and put it out >>>as a candy! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >It's got a laxative product in it. If they put isomalt in the regular >Lifesavers do you think there wouldn't be a health protest? It is not a laxative product. It is a sugar alcohol meant to sweeten things without using sugar and it has the possible side effect, which varies completely with people & with how much is consumed as to whether it exists at all for them or whether they really screw up & give themselves diarrhea & gastric distress! >>>I easily overdid a good thing, granted, but who other than you eats two >>>teensy tiny fruit flavored lifesavers a day? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Sorry but I obviously put this post here for everyone but you. You have >superhuman willpower to only eat two a day. I don't agree at all as to superhuman ability. No way. But, really, you only post things for people who agree with you? How limiting. I would, again, respectfully suggest that you consider opening up on that if you're going to continue posting in public among people with diverse opinions & experiences. And, if it helps any, although I may have posted this already, yes, it is a fight for me sometimes not to overdo on ice cream or on chocolate, but never on Lifesavers. And, when I did overdo on chocolate SF candy & learned about sugar alcohols, it was not a really big deal, just a return to times of gastric distress & diarrhea when my diet was worse in general, but I did not blame the product or the product maker, I took responsibility for it myself. SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel : ^> USA <*> new WIN Vista user 06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 HbA1c 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg Current ................... HbA1c 6.3 Tree Pollen: 04/08-2655; 04/09-2787; 04/10-2805; 04/11-3238; 04/14-3327 "Sooner or later we all discover that the important moments in life are not the advertised ones, not the birthdays, the graduations, the weddings, not the great goals achieved. The real milestones are less prepossessing. They come to the door of memory unannounced, stray dogs that amble in, sniff around a bit and simply never leave. Our lives are measured by these." - Susan B. Anthony (1820-1906) American reformer >DonnaB shallotpeel said... > [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] >Sorry but I obviously put this post here for everyone but you. You have >superhuman willpower to only eat two a day. I wouldn't eat more than about 4, but then I would rather eat candies that have real sugar in smaller amounts. There are several brands, including one excellent liquorice (Panda brand), that I like. SignatureLarry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada. DX 24 Aug 07. D&E Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 (4 Mar 08) >>DonnaB shallotpeel said... >> [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > that have real sugar in smaller amounts. There are several brands, > including one excellent liquorice (Panda brand), that I like. That Panda stuff is addictive. If I buy it, I can buy only one bar at a time. If I buy the box, I have no restraint. And I don't think it contains actual sugar but molasses. >>>DonnaB shallotpeel said... >>> [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] >time. If I buy the box, I have no restraint. And I don't think it contains >actual sugar but molasses. I buy the little sort of tube-shaped liquorice things... about 2g carbs each, While it is a bit of a struggle to refrain from devouring the entire box, I usually manage to limit myself to about 5 for a snack. SignatureLarry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada. DX 24 Aug 07. D&E Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 (4 Mar 08) >>>>DonnaB shallotpeel said... >>>> [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] >the entire box, I usually manage to limit myself to about 5 for a >snack. Just hanging this here for convenience. I promised to look up the brand name of the regular (with sugar) candies that I buy from Superstore. They are "Mentos" fruit flavoured candies. 2 g. carbs each, and I find I can eat just a few and get a lot of enjoyment without spiking. SignatureLarry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada. DX 24 Aug 07. D&E Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 (4 Mar 08) lol..yer not supposed to eat a whole bag... I learned the hard way that sugar free reces peanutbutter cups while tasty are a one every now and then treat..i ate like 4 on holoween and actually woke my wife up in another part of the house because of the umm...sound coning from the bathroom...lol. Any food item made with the "tol" xylitol..etc can give u the runs. That said i can eat as much eyrithtol and alot of xylitol with zero effects...i make xmas cookies and yummy yogurt with fresh fruit with it and got no problems..but cant eat more then a piece or two of the russle stivers and hersheys candies. KROM >I was itching for something sweet so I went to a pharmacy and they didn't > have my usual sugar-free candies. I saw sugar-free Lifesavers and bought [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > Andy > :) >lol..yer not supposed to eat a whole bag... > >I learned the hard way that sugar free reces peanutbutter cups while tasty >are a one every now and then treat..i ate like 4 on holoween and actually >woke my wife up in another part of the house because of the umm...sound >coning from the bathroom...lol. I'm sorry, but it is funny. And, it reminds me of times I have apparently overindulged in certain delicious No Sugar Added/Low Fat ice creams. Well, I guess it is one way (the hard way but effective) to learn portion control! >That said i can eat as much eyrithtol and alot of xylitol with zero >effects...i make xmas cookies and yummy yogurt with fresh fruit with it and >got no problems..but cant eat more then a piece or two of the russle stivers >and hersheys candies. I don't know how long it's been since you looked at the Russell Stover's SF candies, but they have a whole slew of them that have now been changed over from sugar alcohols to Splenda. SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel : ^> USA <*> new WIN Vista user 06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 HbA1c 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg Current ................... HbA1c 6.3 Tree Pollen: 04/08-2655; 04/09-2787; 04/10-2805; 04/11-3238; 04/14-3327 "Yesterday I was a dog. Today I'm a dog. Tomorrow I'll probably still be a dog. Sigh! There's so little hope for advancement." - Snoopy : >lol..yer not supposed to eat a whole bag... : > : >I learned the hard way that sugar free reces peanutbutter cups while tasty : >are a one every now and then treat..i ate like 4 on holoween and actually : >woke my wife up in another part of the house because of the umm...sound : >coning from the bathroom...lol. : I'm sorry, but it is funny. And, it reminds me of times I have apparently : overindulged in certain delicious No Sugar Added/Low Fat ice creams. Well, I : guess it is one way (the hard way but effective) to learn portion control! : >That said i can eat as much eyrithtol and alot of xylitol with zero : >effects...i make xmas cookies and yummy yogurt with fresh fruit with it and : >got no problems..but cant eat more then a piece or two of the russle stivers : >and hersheys candies. : I don't know how long it's been since you looked at the Russell Stover's SF : candies, but they have a whole slew of them that have now been changed over : from sugar alcohols to Splenda. : Tree Pollen: 04/08-2655; 04/09-2787; 04/10-2805; 04/11-3238; 04/14-3327 : "Yesterday I was a dog. Today I'm a dog. Tomorrow I'll probably still be a : dog. Sigh! There's so little hope for advancement." - Snoopy I didn't know that and maybe I would be better off if I still didn't know that:-) Wendy "DonnaB shallotpeel" <shallotpeel@comcast.net> wrote > > I'm sorry, but it is funny. And, it reminds me of times I have apparently > overindulged in certain delicious No Sugar Added/Low Fat ice creams. Well, > I > guess it is one way (the hard way but effective) to learn portion control! Yep..lol..i was actually crying from laughing at the time at the fact it was so loud it woke her up and she rushed in all concerned..lol...trust me laughing with the runs doesnt help matters... > I don't know how long it's been since you looked at the Russell Stover's > SF > candies, but they have a whole slew of them that have now been changed > over > from sugar alcohols to Splenda. Maybe its just the ones i ate..i had the peanut cups and the turtles..both tasty but if i made sure to eat two max. KROM : I was itching for something sweet so I went to a pharmacy and they didn't : have my usual sugar-free candies. I saw sugar-free Lifesavers and bought : two bags. : In the course of the evening I ate the whole bag (24 candies). Earlier this : morning I had THE worst case of diarrhea EVER. I'm still plagued! : I reviewed what I ate yesterday and the only thing out of the ordinary was : the lifesavers. : So... I looked at the 2nd bag of lifesavers and read the ingredients and I : knew what everything was except isomalt. Well right below the list, on a : line all by itself, was a mild warning: "Excess consumption may have a : laxative effect" : NO KIDDING??!!!!!!!!!!!! : MAY have????????? : Now, I pride myself on reading nutrition labels and ingredients but : naturally assumed Lifesavers couldn't f.ck up candy. SERVES ME RIGHT! :( : I'm going to my other pharmacy for the good stuff from now on. : AVOID this candy like the plague. UNLESS YOU'RE CONSTIPATED! : Just awful stuff! : Sorry for the lack of pleasantries. :( : Andy : :) Most of the "diet" candies scontain the terrible "tol's", malitot, sorbitol, etc all classified as sugar alcohols adn in many peole not metabolized quickely , like sugar. Unfortunatley, most also have the :trot "effect. It's not just teh life savers but most of the hard adn chocolate candies labelled "sugar free". You can eat a few without a problem, uually, but certainly not a whole bag ful. Wendy > : I was itching for something sweet so I went to a pharmacy and they didn't > : have my usual sugar-free candies. I saw sugar-free Lifesavers and bought [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > Wendy OMG - thank you for confirming my hunch! I'm not a diabetic, but I am sick and was craving wintergreen the other day. My hubby went on a CVS trip to get some lifesavers. They were out of the regular stuff so he bought the sugar-free stuff. They were quite good, but the next morning, I woke up with severe cramping and full-on explody-diarrhea! I had just stopped taking Valium that same day, so I chalked it up to withdrawal symptoms - which was confirmed on the Internet. I mean it was bad. I knew it wasn't like salmonella or something because I didn't feel like vomiting. Anyway, I've had 5 or less candies a day in the past week and the waterworks and cramping haven't stopped! I don't know why I thought of this, but I just googled, "sugar free lifesavers and diarrhea" and found this forum. Then I read the bold-yet-fine-print on the package and felt like an idiot. While I did have at least 1-5 every day, (if multiple then spread throughout the day) I wouldn't say that was excessive. I think I might have passed out from dehydration by day 2 I had actually consumed a full bag's worth! I have bad kidneys and already have a hard time keeping my fluid levels kosher. This stuff is evil! Thanks for making me realize I'm not losing my mind. Tammy Watch out for "sugar free" fudge candy as well. they all use this (including sugar free Hershey syrup). Has the same effect on me. >> : I was itching for something sweet so I went to a pharmacy and they >> didn't [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > > Tammy Oo, sorry you had to find out the hard way what most of us in here already know :) "Andy" <q> wrote in message > In the course of the evening I ate the whole bag (24 candies). Earlier > this > morning I had THE worst case of diarrhea EVER. I'm still plagued! Ozgirl said... > Oo, sorry you had to find out the hard way what most of us in here already > know :) Ozgirl, Ya could've TOLD ME sooner! Is this diabetes initiation or what? And top-posting is some kinda new trick to boot? Thanks, I think not!!! Andy SignatureT2 HBP Gout :) : Ozgirl said... : > Oo, sorry you had to find out the hard way what most of us in here : already : > know :) : Ozgirl, : Ya could've TOLD ME sooner! Is this diabetes initiation or what? : And top-posting is some kinda new trick to boot? : Thanks, I think not!!! : Andy You never asked:-) Wendy Well, usually it comes about that someone asks a question about sugar alcohols and it follows on from there. As for top posting, there is absolutely no hard and fast rule about it or bottom posting for that matter. People have views about the subject, that's all. As with any free info, take it or leave it. > Ozgirl said... > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Andy > :) |
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