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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / May 2008Confession time! <gulp!>
Hi guys, I have something to confess and I am hoping by spilling my guts here, it will give me the kick up the butt I do desperately need! There are those of you who may remember I contracted what I thought was chronic tonsillitis back in Feburary and I was finding it hard to shift the symptoms, plus a constrant barrage of viral/flu like symptoms for about 8 weeks after. After a blood test, it was confirmed I had actually contracted glandular fever. At the time, I was feeling very lethargic and wasnt eating too well, so I was getting liver dumps and all the other contributory factors that cause blood glucose to be higher than I want or need it to be. Anyway, as time has gone on I havent been able to get myself back into my pro-active stance and my bg is normally around 8.1 (145.8). My one hour pp is around 8.4 and two hour is about 8.1. I am slowly getting back onto my perfect diet, which always kept my bg down even when I didnt exercise. But I havent touched my treadmill for weeks now, I only eat when I really have to and of course, with the apathy comes the guilt. I'm the first to remind people, if you arent prepared to do the work, then expect the consequences. But now I am there, in the thick of it- knowing I am harming myself every second of the day but I cant quite seem to get my butt back into the race. I have even evaded my April check up - I was meant to go for blood and urine tests at end of March to prepare for my next checkup but I dont want that huff and tut attitude that will likely be afforded me by the doctor (who doesnt praise or support or listen) when my A1C is potentially higher than it should be. Well, there we are guys! My confession. Let the butt-kicking commence - pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!! Nah, no kick up the butt, glandular fever is notorious for making one feel like sh.t for quite a while. Now go get on that treadmill :) > Nah, no kick up the butt, glandular fever is notorious for making one feel > like sh.t for quite a while. Now go get on that treadmill :) Hi there! I didnt manage the treadmill the day you wrote your message. But I managed a walk that lasted 1.5 hours - nothing too brisk but felt brilliant after :)) Helen Back wrote in message ... >Hi there! > >I didnt manage the treadmill the day you wrote your message. But I >managed a walk that lasted 1.5 hours - nothing too brisk but felt >brilliant after :)) Good Job Helen!!! Cheri > Hi guys, I have something to confess and I am hoping by spilling my > guts here, it will give me the kick up the butt I do desperately need! [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Let the butt-kicking commence - pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!! Clearly the Holy Spirit has been absolutely right to convict you: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are neither perfect nor more special... ... we are simply forgiven by GOD: http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven/ You really don't have much longer, dear friend Helen: http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Prophecy May you wisely choose to repent soon by publicly declaring with your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:" http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow "Andrew B. Chung, MD/Ph Andrew is a good example of "this is your brain on jesus". > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/Ph > > Andrew is a good example of "this is your brain on jesus". Wooohoooo New Member to the convicted neighbor club. As god predestins peopletobe saved or damned, and there is noway to change it. Might as`well live it up/ On 13 Apr, 11:30, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > Clearly the Holy Spirit has been absolutely right to convict you: > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Andrew <>< Clearly, I come here for support and hopefully support others who need it. I am also clear on something else -my own belief system which does not include scare or guilt-mongering others. And perfectly clear, I have never once insulted *you*. Please take that into consideration when you convict the likes of me and my human voibles. > On 13 Apr, 11:30, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > [blah snipped] [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > that into consideration when you convict the likes of me and my human > voibles. I killfiled him a while back, Helen. Take care.  SignatureNick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families! I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~ > > On 13 Apr, 11:30, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > > [blah snipped] [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Take care. Thanks Nick - I rarely killfile people, but I know what ya saying! :)) >> > On 13 Apr, 11:30, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" >> > [blah snipped] [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Thanks Nick - I rarely killfile people, but I know what ya saying! :)) I've probably killfiled him a few dozen times, and am now working on a possible way to killfile all the messages crossposted to his favorite newsgroup. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForHelen Considering one of the basic principles of faith is humility and leaving judgment to god..his proclaiming to know who god has convicted is the heigth of sin in its fullest extent. "Look not at the dust mote in they neighbors eye for there is a whole dessert of sand in yours"-- "Judge not lest yer be judged"-- Etc etc....proving he is a kook and if one were to put a religious view of him he would fall in the false profit/antichrist catagory...or simple put..killfile material..lol KROM > On 13 Apr, 11:30, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > that into consideration when you convict the likes of me and my human > voibles. > Considering one of the basic principles of faith is humility and leaving > judgment to god..his proclaiming to know who god has convicted is the heigth [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > KROM I hear ya, Krom! :))) > Hi guys, I have something to confess and I am hoping by spilling my > guts here, it will give me the kick up the butt I do desperately need! [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Let the butt-kicking commence - pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!! Whose butt? Ch*ng's, please, if you dare to get that close to him. Helen, it is difficult to get back to a routine when you have been ill. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and get on track. Little at a time if necessary. You will be fine. You just had a little set-back Ira T2 > Hi guys, I have something to confess and I am hoping by spilling my > guts here, it will give me the kick up the butt I do desperately need! [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Let the butt-kicking commence - pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!! > Helen, it is difficult to get back to a routine when you have been > ill. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and get on track. Little at a > time if necessary. You will be fine. You just had a little set-back > Ira T2 HI Ira, I am feeling a tad bit sorry for myself- and self-pity does slow us down. I've started walking again, thats how I started after dx so hopefully I'll be back on track soon - thank you :)) >> Helen, it is difficult to get back to a routine when you have been >> ill. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and get on track. Little at a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >down. I've started walking again, thats how I started after dx so >hopefully I'll be back on track soon - thank you :)) Congratulations Helen, You have recognised what has been happening. I love it when you say you've been feeling a tad bit sorry for myself. What's so marvelous about that is that are not denying the feeling. You recognised the feeling yet you have it under control. That is marvelous. Feeling the feeling, having it in a small dose like that lets you move on. So much better than those that go into all sorts of denial. You walked for an hour and a half. That is a lot of walking. OK, it might not be by some of your standards but it would by mine. The especially good news is that you recognised that you've been there before. That was how it was when you were first diagnosed. Hey, you succeeded then and you will again. Way to go. Best wishes, SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin > On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 00:50:01 -0700 (PDT), Helen Back > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > before. That was how it was when you were first diagnosed. Hey, you > succeeded then and you will again. Way to go. Thank you, Quentin. Long gone are the days when I remained in denial about any issues - emotional, physical or psychological. I'm fully awake, as painful as that can be at times! :))))) It happene Helen, especially when one is not feeling well. You know what you need to do, so just get started...one day at a time, and get back on track. Best to you. :-) Cheri Helen Back wrote in message <0b26d269-a883-4309-b1f7-297dddb0bc85@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>... >Hi guys, I have something to confess and I am hoping by spilling my >guts here, it will give me the kick up the butt I do desperately need! [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > >Let the butt-kicking commence - pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!! > It happene Helen, especially when one is not feeling well. You know > what you need to do, so just get started...one day at a time, and get > back on track. Best to you. :-) > > Cheri Thanks Cheri :))))) > Hi guys, I have something to confess and I am hoping by spilling my > guts here, it will give me the kick up the butt I do desperately need! [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Let the butt-kicking commence - pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!! Hi Helen, Before I start the butt-kicking, I have to wonder if you're fully recovered from the glandular fever (what we call mononucleosis on this side of the Atlantic)? That dreaded little virus can really kick the snot of some people and takes a long time to get over. Perhaps you are expecting too much of yourself too soon? Okay, that said, for the butt-kicking, I'm just going to give a mild swat: Get on that treadmill for a whole 10 minutes. You can stand anything for 10 minutes. And don't you dare go one minute over until you make sure that the exercise isn't going to cause a relapse! Okay, so how was that for a butt-kicking? Best regards, Michelle C., T2 diet & exercise > > Hi guys, I have something to confess and I am hoping by spilling my > > guts here, it will give me the kick up the butt I do desperately need! [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Hi MIchelle - That butt-kicking was lovely, thank you :)) Funnily enough, being a naturally curious person, as soon as I got confirmation that I had GF, I went surfing and yes, the correct term is mononucleosis. No treatment other than patience and time! Im trying to gear myself up for the treadmill - walking is something I got back into since posting and then went to bed for 3 hours - which is something rare for me - so yes, I am taking the GF for granted!! Thanks Michelle :)) > > > Hi guys, I have something to confess and I am hoping by spilling my > > > guts here, it will give me the kick up the butt I do desperately need! [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > > Thanks Michelle :)) Hi Helen, Yep, it's easy to think that because you feel better, you're cured. ;-) You are wise to be patient with yourself, resting as needed. Glad you are back on track with the diet, and doing exercise as permitted by the residuals of the GF. Nasty, nasty ailment! Take care, Michelle C., T2 diet & exercise nope, Helen, no butt kicking from me i got mononucleosis in Jan 1999 and i slept for 3 years for 22 hours a day then i started to feel better and i was able to get back into the swing of things diet became very important while i had the mono.......... both for the sake of providing nutrients to fend off the mono, and to keep my bg in line take care of yourself, and i hope you get better soon! ! ! kate > Hi guys, I have something to confess and I am hoping by spilling my > guts here, it will give me the kick up the butt I do desperately need! [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Let the butt-kicking commence - pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!! > nope, Helen, no butt kicking from me > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > kate Thank you, Kate - I got a bit scared because before diabetes dx, I wanted to sleep all the time and I have completely forgotten that mono.n can exhaust us to the point where we need to sleep. Im seeing a picture here - me trying to rush things away and taking being ill completely for granted. Im focusing on my diet now - its time I kicked my own butt :))))) Best part of moving forward is if you fall you still fall in the right direction and can get up and be on your way again... Dont worry about the past too much..which wont mean much when your doing great again. KROM > Hi guys, I have something to confess and I am hoping by spilling my > guts here, it will give me the kick up the butt I do desperately need! [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Let the butt-kicking commence - pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!! > Best part of moving forward is if you fall you still fall in the right > direction and can get up and be on your way again... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > KROM As usual - kind, thoughtful words from KROM - thank you :)))))) >Let the butt-kicking commence - pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!! Are you sure you're over the glandular fever? I remember a friend of mine at school, a real bookworm, said that it was too hard to pick up a book... If you're still in the throes, exercising may actually be counter-productive. How about trying the treadmill (and remember you've lost your condition, so start really easy) and see how it feels. If it wipes you out, it's too soon. In the meantime, diet is something you can control... Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 > On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:48:41 -0700 (PDT), Helen Back > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > D&E, 100ug thyroxine > Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 Hi Helen, How are you feeling? I hope better. :) Cindy > Hi Helen, > How are you feeling? I hope better. :) > Cindy- Hide quoted text - Hi Cindy - the one thing the guys here have taught me in the last couple of days is that, when we are ill we should be kinder and more patient with ourselves. I have been taking my glandular fever for granted - thinking that just because I feel much better than I did, that there is still a little way to go. So, if I need sleep, I'll sleep; if I want to rest, I'll rest - and no more being hard on myself. Thank you, Cindy :)) How are you btw?? > On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:48:41 -0700 (PDT), Helen Back > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > D&E, 100ug thyroxine > Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 Hi Nicky - as I read the lovely posts here in response to my plea - I came to realise I've taken being ill for granted. Im back on track with my diet - and in two days, numbers are showing better already. I think just by writing my "confession" post gave me the uplift from self-pity that I was experiencing but I have realised that I was feeling sorry for myself because I generally havent felt well since the GF - so, yes, I am rushing things and taking it all for granted. I havent plucked up the guts to go on my treadmill - I'll go for slow walks but wil have to gear myself up for treadmill. I'll see how I go as my numbers improve. I know that the higher my bg, the more wiped- out I feel anyway. Thank you so much for kind words of support - to you and everybody :)))))) >I think just by writing my "confession" post gave me the uplift from >self-pity that I was experiencing but I have realised that I was >feeling sorry for myself because I generally havent felt well since >the GF - so, yes, I am rushing things and taking it all for granted. Cool - venting is good for the soul : ) Just take things easy, OK? Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 > On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 01:11:18 -0700 (PDT), Helen Back > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Cool - venting is good for the soul : ) Just take things easy, OK? Thanks Nicky - hunny bunny!! :P >I have even evaded my April check up - I was meant to go for blood and >urine tests at end of March to prepare for my next checkup but I dont >want that huff and tut attitude that will likely be afforded me by the >doctor (who doesnt praise or support or listen) when my A1C is >potentially higher than it should be. Tis a pity you don't have a better doctor, if you did he may have prescribed you something to help with the IR - or an increased dose, can't remember what you're on at the moment - to tide you over until you can pick yourself back up and get on with things. Mono can be a long drawn out thing to recover from and it's easy to get caught in the cycle where the illness punts up your BG and the high BG makes the illness hard to shake Start back up in small stages {{{hugs}}} sorry no butt-kicking > On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:48:41 -0700 (PDT), Helen Back > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > {{{hugs}}} sorry no butt-kicking HI there - I am not taking any meds for my dx (other than Simvastin and aspirin). Both doctors that I liaised with when I was first dx were determined that diet and exercise is the best way to go - initially. I'll be honest - if I can maintain healthy bg levels through diet etc alone, then I will endeavour to do so. But, I am also aware that if I feel things are out of control, I WILL definitely discuss this with the doc. Thank you for your words of support. >> On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:48:41 -0700 (PDT), Helen Back >> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > >Thank you for your words of support. You could trial Alpha-Lipoic Acid (tell yourself it's not a drug but a dietary supplement) it's not had as much effect on my numbers as the diet and exercise, but it HAS improved my control and predictability a lot, and brought the numbers down about 0.5 (10) points overall, might be worth considering while you're getting your health back, every little helps . . . . . . one of the effects it had was to chop the liver dumps off at their knees to the extent I now have to watch for genuine lows, I don't know if this might help with the sickness-generated highs > On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:23:03 -0700 (PDT), Helen Back > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > their knees to the extent I now have to watch for genuine lows, I > don't know if this might help with the sickness-generated highs HI Trink, Are you using long acting ALA? Best regards, Michelle C., T2 diet & exercise >> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:23:03 -0700 (PDT), Helen Back >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Are you using long acting ALA? No, just the cheap stuff I know it has a very short half-life but that doesn't seem to affect the benefits, presunably it gives the system a good kicking twice a day (when I take it) which keeps the IR in line over the whole 24 hours, the effect takes several days to wear off after I've stopped it in the past so maybe it changes gene expression or something Dammit I promised someone I was going to dig out some of the papers previously posted about ALA but haven't gotten round to it yet >>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:23:03 -0700 (PDT), Helen Back >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> >>Are you using long acting ALA? > No, just the cheap stuff > I know it has a very short half-life but that doesn't seem to affect > the benefits, presunably it gives the system a good kicking twice a > day (when I take it) which keeps the IR in line over the whole 24 > hours, the effect takes several days to wear off after I've stopped it > in the past so maybe it changes gene expression or something Many people assume that the half life of a drug in the blood is the same as the half life of its effects. That's often the case, but not always. For example, some antidepressants have concentration half lives measured in hours and effect half lives measured in days or weeks. It depends how the drug works. Sometimes by the time the effect starts there's no measurable concentration left in the blood. SignatureChris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/] http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts <snip> > Many people assume that the half life of a drug in the blood is the > same as the half life of its effects. That's often the case, but not > always. For example, some antidepressants have concentration half > lives measured in hours and effect half lives measured in days or > weeks. It depends how the drug works. More precisely it depends on the site of action. > Sometimes by the time the effect > starts there's no measurable concentration left in the blood. However, there should be a measurable concentration at the site of action. <>< http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Counsels : Many people assume that the half life of a drug in the blood is the : same as the half life of its effects. That's often the case, but not : always. For example, some antidepressants have concentration half : lives measured in hours and effect half lives measured in days or : weeks. It depends how the drug works. Sometimes by the time the effect : starts there's no measurable concentration left in the blood. Chris, Nice to see you posting. You have been rather quiet for a while. I hope all is going well adn that spring is blooming in Edinburgh. Wendy > : Many people assume that the half life of a drug in the blood is the > : same as the half life of its effects. That's often the case, but not > : always. For example, some antidepressants have concentration half > : lives measured in hours and effect half lives measured in days or > : weeks. It depends how the drug works. Sometimes by the time the effect > : starts there's no measurable concentration left in the blood. > Chris, > Nice to see you posting. You have been rather quiet for a while. I hope > all is going well adn that spring is blooming in Edinburgh. I've been taking advantage of the improving weather to get out more. The blooming is being greatly helped by the unusual amount of rain! SignatureChris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/] >>>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:23:03 -0700 (PDT), Helen Back >>>> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >weeks. It depends how the drug works. Sometimes by the time the effect >starts there's no measurable concentration left in the blood. That's what they used to say about acid . . . . . . yes there can be different effects over different time periods, with some antidepressants the half life is hours, the side effects can start immediately but the actual antidepressant effect may take a week or three to start happening, and continue for half a year after the drug has been discontinued (so long as it has been taken for long enough), the older theory was that they had to downregulate reuptake receptors for long enough that they stopped working permanently, the current theory is that they alter gene expression of the receptors so you "learn" not to produce too many of them. Coming shortly: next year's theory |
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