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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / April 2008

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Scary Dietary Recommendations

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Trinkwasser - 12 Apr 2008 21:37 GMT
I was looking at the nutritional information on a pack of crap
snackfood.

The standard breakdown includes carbs, of which sugars, and fibre as a
separate entity, and brakes down fats into saturates, mono and
polyunsaturates, so nothing out of the ordinary there.

The ingredients list correctly lists everything in descending order of
concentration.

The problem I have is with the "Guideline Daily Amounts" which is one
of several dumb-down-the-information type schemes used by different
food(?) manufacturers and suppliers.

For men

calories        2500
fat        95g
saturates    30g
fibre        24g
salt        6g

and pro rata for women and children

NOTHING on carbs at all

but

SUGAR        120g

are they serious???

If it was carbs 120g I'd find it quite acceptable, but 120g sugar PLUS
other carbs

Over a quarter pound of SUGAR a day

<speechless>
Johnnie McCoy - 13 Apr 2008 05:52 GMT
> I was looking at the nutritional information on a pack of crap
> snackfood.
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>
> <speechless>

Wow! I don't think I've ever seen anything that high. Of course, I never
looked before I caught diabetes, and then I never looked at anything that
might be high.

John
Oleg Lego - 13 Apr 2008 06:02 GMT
>I was looking at the nutritional information on a pack of crap
>snackfood.
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>
>Over a quarter pound of SUGAR a day

That IS a lot. Just as scary is the salt at 6g. I think the last thing
I remember reading about it was that you shouldn't have more than 2400
mg per day (2.4 g).

Looking at the label on a package of "Peak Freans LifeStyle Cranberry
Citrus Oat Crunch" cookies, I see:

Salt    100mg.    4%, equating to 2500 mg per day
Carbs    21g.    7%, equating to 300 g per day.

So it looks like they got the salt OK, but 300g carbs is a bit scary.

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Trinkwasser - 15 Apr 2008 22:00 GMT
>>I was looking at the nutritional information on a pack of crap
>>snackfood.
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>I remember reading about it was that you shouldn't have more than 2400
>mg per day (2.4 g).

Damn near a hundredweight of sugar a year

Yes I suspect the Food Industry may have had something to do with
these Recommended Levels seeing as they shove sugar starch and salt
into most everything

>Looking at the label on a package of "Peak Freans LifeStyle Cranberry
>Citrus Oat Crunch" cookies, I see:
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>
>So it looks like they got the salt OK, but 300g carbs is a bit scary.

Indeed.

I tend not to eat much processed food so I've never really paid
attention to the small print before, only the actual contents

I weakened and had a pizza yesterday - well actually I cooked half the
pizza and ate two thirds of the half - mother had the other third -
with lashings of purple sprouting broccoli and a glass of Chianti,
followed by one of my walks, that was about 30g carbs and I think I
got away with it despite it being wheat (6 (108) at 1 hour, 5.8 (105)
at 2 hours)

The pizza box has NO Guideline Daily Amounts for either sugar or
carbs, only fat, sat fat and salt - which again is 6g/day
Priscilla Ballou - 14 Apr 2008 20:59 GMT
> I was looking at the nutritional information on a pack of crap
> snackfood.
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>
> <speechless>

Looks to me like a restatement of the old saw that the brain needs 120
grams of glucose a day.  Unfortunately they translate "glucose" into
"sugar" and "needs" into "must consume" neatly avoiding mention of the
fact that over half of the protein we eat is converted into glucose, so
one doesn't *need* to *consume* any sugar at all, because you can get
all required glucose from protein.

Priscilla, T2
Priscilla Ballou - 14 Apr 2008 23:59 GMT
> > I was looking at the nutritional information on a pack of crap
> > snackfood.
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>
> Priscilla, T2

I'm sorry.  I meant milligrams, not grams.  Are you sure they didn't say
milligrams (mg) not grams?

Priscilla
Priscilla Ballou - 15 Apr 2008 00:00 GMT
> > > I was looking at the nutritional information on a pack of crap
> > > snackfood.
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>
> Priscilla

No, I meant grams.  I think I need my dinner.  :-(

Priscilla
Trinkwasser - 15 Apr 2008 21:45 GMT
>> > Looks to me like a restatement of the old saw that the brain needs 120
>> > grams of glucose a day.  Unfortunately they translate "glucose" into
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>No, I meant grams.  I think I need my dinner.  :-(

You haven't had 120g sugar today have you?

<runs away>
 
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