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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / April 2008Fallen on course right from the get-go
Hello again, everyone. I posted here several weeks ago and got some great help, advice, research links, and was working hard at getting on the right track, at least for a short time. ....Then I got the flu! I was so sick with the flu, everything else went out the window, then instead of getting better I got a secondary infection and ended up with walking pnemonia. I haven't been testing much, but when I have, my readings are horrible. I'm not eating much because I feel so bad, and I'm just too exhausted to do hardly anything, much less excersize. The doctor wouldn't subscribe anything when I had the flu, saying it wouldn't do any good. But, now I've got some meds, and am hoping to feel much better soon. I read some posts when I was awake and bored, and saw a few others had had the flu also. I just didn't feel up to posting then. Is everyone hopefully recovered now? And why are readings bad when you are sick, but not really eathing much? I didn't even loose any weight during all this, with only soup, hot garlic toast, and hot sweet tea to keep my going!!! I hope to get back on track soon, and am looking forward to more helpful info and encouragement from this group. It's a shame I got side tracked right off of the get go. Linda > Hello again, everyone. I posted here several weeks ago and got some > great help, advice, research links, and was working hard at getting on > the right track, at least for a short time. ....Then I got the flu! Sad to read about this. > I was so sick with the flu, everything else went out the window, then > instead of getting better I got a secondary infection and ended up > with walking pnemonia. The Flu kills many with diabetes because of the underlying cardiovascular in diabetics. You have been bleseed to have survived it. > I haven't been testing much, but when I have, > my readings are horrible. I'm not eating much because I feel so bad, > and I'm just too exhausted to do hardly anything, much less > excersize. Loss of appetite is an indication that what you are having is serious. > The doctor wouldn't subscribe anything when I had the flu, saying it > wouldn't do any good. In our collective clinical experience, oseltamivir has been quite effective in lessening the severity and shortening the duration of Flu provided it is administered not more that 48 hrs after the onset of symptoms. Disclosure: no affiliation with Roche, makers of oseltamivir (TamiFlu). > But, now I've got some meds, and am hoping to > feel much better soon. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > hopefully recovered now? And why are readings bad when you are sick, > but not really eathing much? Worsening insulin resistance. > I didn't even loose any weight during > all this, with only soup, hot garlic toast, and hot sweet tea to keep > my going!!! All that would still be food. Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow > Hello again, everyone. I posted here several weeks ago and got some > great help, advice, research links, and was working hard at getting on [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Linda When you're sick, your readings are usually higher than usual, even if it's only from your liver converting part of the protein in your body to glucose. Many soups contain carbohydrates and therefore raise your readings. So does toast. If the hot sweet tea contains sugar, that's even more. Have you read this collection of information from our newsgroup? http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm On Apr 12, 3:38 pm, "Robert Miles" <robertmi...@bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote: > > Hello again, everyone. I posted here several weeks ago and got some > > great help, advice, research links, and was working hard at getting on [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Yes, I had read that link and many others. All very helpful, for sure. Actually, calling it soup is pushing it, it was mostly chicken boullion, and honey tea to soothe the throat and the cough. I did the garlic toast to be able to stomach the meds, since I needed something in the tummy. Plus I thought the garlic would be good for me too. I know the bread wasn't but didn't have many other options that I could choose from. Hopefully the antibiotics will kick in, and soon the strength will come back. Its so deflating to go through such a set back. And, Nicky, thanks. I can tell you got exactly where I'm coming from with your response! Linda > > "CyberGirl" <linda_math...@ibew.org> wrote in message > > [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > Hopefully the antibiotics will kick in, and soon the strength will > come back. You will know when GOD answers our prayers on your behalf when you start feeling much hungrier (Luke 6:21). Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow >And why are readings bad when you are sick, >but not really eathing much? I didn't even loose any weight during >all this, with only soup, hot garlic toast, and hot sweet tea to keep >my going!!! Being ill does vile things to your insulin resistance - and it is so unfair not to lose weight! Glad you're feeling better now. Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 >Hello again, everyone. I posted here several weeks ago and got some >great help, advice, research links, and was working hard at getting on [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >Linda G'day G'day Linda, You're entitled to encouragement right now. Yes you are! You haven't forgotten you've got T2 diabetes or anything like that. When people have the flu they aren't themselves so its the "other person" who gets all the blame. <grin> Seriously, infections release cortisol, a stress hormone and that bumps your blood glucose up hideously. It is just going to happen. When you get over the flu you'll get over the high blood glucose readings. If you make chicken soup try to persuade someone to make the stock with chicken bones. The marrow contains a particular amino acid that boosts your immune system. The garlic probably helps as well. Keep up the fluids and keep up your fine spirits. From a zillion miles away I'm simply admiring your cheerfulness. Way to go girl. Best wishes,  SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin > <linda_mathews@ibew.org> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > Keep up the fluids and keep up your fine spirits. From a zillion > miles away I'm simply admiring your cheerfulness. Way to go girl. Hi Linda, Quentin has given you some good information and advice. Let me add a few things from my experience. When my wife, Jun, makes chicken stock, she cracks the bones near the middle with the back of a cleaver. This helps with the release of the marrow. Being of Sicilian heritage, I love garlic toast! Being T2, I've had to drastically reduce my bread intake. Jun makes fried garlic, which she sprinkles (a lot of) on soups, salads, etc. Sometimes I'll eat a spoonful of it right out of the bowl. The oil can also be used in salad dressings or wherever you want garlic infused EVOO. Glad you're feeling better. Keep up the good work and keep smiling! Jun's Crisp-fried garlic (may be kept, covered) on a pantry shelf for a month or 2) For each 1/4 cup finely chopped garlic, use 1 cup olive oil to fry it over moderate heat 'til light golden. Remove from heat and let it continue to cook in the hot oil off the heat. Some recipes use it with the oil, others without. We go through it so fast that it's kept in a bowl next to the stove. ;-) SignatureNick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families! I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~ >Jun's Crisp-fried garlic (may be kept, covered) on a pantry shelf for a >month or 2) [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >We go through it so fast that it's kept in a bowl next to the stove. ;-) Oh just stop it OK? I just stuffed my face with rump steak fried in olive oil and black pepper then grilled, with a portobello mushroom fried in the remains of the oil, and fresh asparagus, washed down with some fine Shiraz now you've made me hungry all over again :P > On 18 Apr 2008 06:20:45 GMT, Nick Cramer <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> > >Jun's Crisp-fried garlic (may be kept, covered) on a pantry shelf for a > >month or 2) [] [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > now you've made me hungry all over again :P Sounds good. Garlic sure goes good with steak, Trink. SignatureNick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families! I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~ >> On 18 Apr 2008 06:20:45 GMT, Nick Cramer <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Sounds good. Garlic sure goes good with steak, Trink. Garlic goes good with *everything* >>Sounds good. Garlic sure goes good with steak, Trink. > > Garlic goes good with *everything* Not with chocolate chip cookies. But I know nobody else here eats those anyway. :-) bj >>>Sounds good. Garlic sure goes good with steak, Trink. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >:-) >bj Sure we do on occasion, just made differently. :-) Cheri >>>>Sounds good. Garlic sure goes good with steak, Trink. >>> >>> Garlic goes good with *everything* >> >>Not with chocolate chip cookies. I think I once saw garlic flavour ice cream >>But I know nobody else here eats those anyway. >>:-) >>bj > >Sure we do on occasion, just made differently. :-) Yes, without the chocolate, or the cookies >>>Sounds good. Garlic sure goes good with steak, Trink. >> >> Garlic goes good with *everything* > >Not with chocolate chip cookies. >But I know nobody else here eats those anyway. Huh? My kids and I made some almond flour ones over the weekend. Sans garlic, though :P Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 >>>Sounds good. Garlic sure goes good with steak, Trink. >> >> Garlic goes good with *everything* > >Not with chocolate chip cookies. I might try that one day. I know I really like garlic jelly. >But I know nobody else here eats those anyway. >:-) >bj SignatureLarry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada. DX 24 Aug 07. D&E Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 (4 Mar 08) |
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