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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / April 2008Over Medicated
OT - but just thought I'd ask, anyway. Does anybody have any idea why my doctor would have put me on 2 different Cholesterol lowering drugs - Crestor and Antara? Seems a little over-kill to me. I had some high numbers but not horribly high. HDL - 37 LDL - 92 Trigs -208 Total Cholesterol - 171 John > OT - but just thought I'd ask, anyway. Does anybody have any idea why my > doctor would have put me on 2 different Cholesterol lowering drugs - > Crestor and Antara? Seems a little over-kill to me. I had some high > numbers but not horribly high. Quack? I dunno. My Dr. put me on one and my overall cholesterol wasn't high. > OT - but just thought I'd ask, anyway. Does anybody have any idea why my > doctor would have put me on 2 different Cholesterol lowering drugs - [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Trigs -208 > Total Cholesterol - 171 Did you ask your doctor why he put you on two? You might find this helpful: http://www.drugs.com/drug-interactions/antara_d04286_crestor_d04851.html To me: Your HDL looks low (mine is 106). Your LDL looks high (mine is 30). Your Trigs look high (mine is 41). Your Total cholesterol looks high (mine is 144). Can you eat fish? If so, try it. Take care.  SignatureNick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families! I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~ >> OT - but just thought I'd ask, anyway. Does anybody have any idea why my >> doctor would have put me on 2 different Cholesterol lowering drugs - [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >Can you eat fish? If so, try it. Your lipids are disgustingly good. Go away. <G> My LDL is still a bit high (or a lot high compared to yours) so I'm happy to continue the Simvastatin, but the HDL and especially the trigs fell in line by lowering the carbs, adding fish and getting more exercise. The ratios are good. I'd tend to suggest John try this approach too. >>> OT - but just thought I'd ask, anyway. Does anybody have any idea why my >>> doctor would have put me on 2 different Cholesterol lowering drugs - [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > I'd tend to suggest John try this approach too. I asked him about fish pills and he said, yeah. John > "Trinkwasser" <spam@devnull.com.invalid> wrote in message > > On 12 Apr 2008 08:57:21 GMT, Nick Cramer <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> > >>> [ . . . ] > I asked him about fish pills and he said, yeah. Fish pills don't taste anywheres near as good as fish. There are so many kinds of fish, all with different tastes and textures, and so many easy ways of preparing them. I got 861,000 hits when I Googled on 'fish recipes'! Try it! You'll like it! SignatureNick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families! I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~ > Fish pills don't taste anywheres near as good as fish. There are so many > kinds of fish, all with different tastes and textures, and so many easy > ways of preparing them. I got 861,000 hits when I Googled on 'fish > recipes'! > > Try it! You'll like it! I take fish oil caps that I don't taste at all. People have told me all my life "you'll like it" but it never seems to be true. Not just about fish. There are other things I just *don't like* even something "tasty" "properly prepared" etc. & everyone else is raving about it. It can be very irritating to be told that you *should* like something. That your problem is "you don't know how to cook it" & that's your problem (even if you had it in good restaurants). I know people who *don't like chocolate*. This amazes & mystifies me, but I don't go around telling them they're just buying the wrong kind or they don't know how to eat it properly. :-) bj > "Nick Cramer" <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message > > Fish pills don't taste anywheres near as good as fish. There are so > > many kinds of fish, all with different tastes and textures, and so many > > easy ways of preparing them. I got 861,000 hits when I Googled on 'fish > > recipes'! > > > > Try it! You'll like it! > I take fish oil caps that I don't taste at all. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > but I don't go around telling them they're just buying the wrong kind > or they don't know how to eat it properly. Sorry. I didn't mean ti irritate you. I won't bother you again. SignatureNick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families! I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~ >> "Trinkwasser" <spam@devnull.com.invalid> wrote in message >> > On 12 Apr 2008 08:57:21 GMT, Nick Cramer <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Try it! You'll like it! Agreed. The capsules gave me bloating and fishy halitosis which the complete fish never do (well OK perhaps unfresh mackerel occasionally) Sorry bj! In you honour I am currently stuffing my face with strawberries If everyone all liked the same things there'd be no need for different restaurants and cookery programmes and civilisation would probably end > On 13 Apr 2008 07:02:14 GMT, Nick Cramer <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> > >> "Trinkwasser" <spam@devnull.com.invalid> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Agreed. The capsules gave me bloating and fishy halitosis which the > complete fish never do (well OK perhaps unfresh mackerel occasionally) Fresh mackeral is soooooooooo good! It was my favorite at the sushi bar. > Sorry bj! In you honour I am currently stuffing my face with > strawberries > > If everyone all liked the same things there'd be no need for different > restaurants and cookery programmes and civilisation would probably end. If bj replies, I won't see it. SignatureNick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families! I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~ >> On 13 Apr 2008 07:02:14 GMT, Nick Cramer <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> >> >> "Trinkwasser" <spam@devnull.com.invalid> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Fresh mackeral is soooooooooo good! It was my favorite at the sushi bar. Yes but it must be really fresh (or tinned while really fresh), there's a classic passage in one of Richard Brautigan's books about what happens when you eat stale jack mackerel. Sadly it's not on the web or I'd quote it, and I can't scan it because my book appears to be in store still > On 16 Apr 2008 07:35:00 GMT, Nick Cramer <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> > >> On 13 Apr 2008 07:02:14 GMT, Nick Cramer <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > there's a classic passage in one of Richard Brautigan's books about > what happens when you eat stale jack mackerel. "a gastronomical Hiroshima": × After a dinner of jack mackerel you sit around and your subjects of conversation are greatly limited. I have found it impossible to talk about poetry, aesthetics or world peace after eating jack mackerel.× SignatureNick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families! I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~ >> On 16 Apr 2008 07:35:00 GMT, Nick Cramer <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> >> >> On 13 Apr 2008 07:02:14 GMT, Nick Cramer <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >conversation are greatly limited. I have found it impossible to talk about >poetry, aesthetics or world peace after eating jack mackerel.× "What did you say?" I farted "I'm going to read Ecclesiastes" he farted that's the one! >> OT - but just thought I'd ask, anyway. Does anybody have any idea why my >> doctor would have put me on 2 different Cholesterol lowering drugs - [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Take care. I guess the part near the bottom is why. Thanks for the link. John > OT - but just thought I'd ask, anyway. Does anybody have any idea why my > doctor would have put me on 2 different Cholesterol lowering drugs - Crestor > and Antara? Seems a little over-kill to me. I had some high numbers but not > horribly high. > > HDL - 37 Not optimal, which would be more than 50. > LDL - 92 Optimal. > Trigs -208 Not optimal, which would be less than 150. > Total Cholesterol - 171 Optimal. As long as you have diabetes, your risk of a heart attack or stroke is statistically the same as someone who has already had a heart attack or stroke so that your doctor is motivated to make your lipid profile as optimal as possible. Crestor is favored for raising HDL. Antara is favored for lowering triglycerides (Trigs). It is believed but not conclusively proven that optimizing the lipid profile with these two medications will reduce your high risk of future heart attacks or strokes. Therefore, it remains much smarter to go for the cure of type-2 diabetes, by losing the black fat (VAT), which is achievable by simply eating less, down to the right amount: http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart A simple parable given in hopes of promoting greater understanding: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow >OT - but just thought I'd ask, anyway. Does anybody have any idea why my >doctor would have put me on 2 different Cholesterol lowering drugs - Crestor [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Trigs -208 >Total Cholesterol - 171 Because he doesn't think you can do it with d&e... those trigs are impressive! Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 >>OT - but just thought I'd ask, anyway. Does anybody have any idea why my >>doctor would have put me on 2 different Cholesterol lowering drugs - [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Nicky. Its not that I can't... its just that I probably won't. John |
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