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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / April 2008what IS it with these damned spammers!
Google groups used to do a good job of preventing spam. Now all the groups are loaded with it every day. Rotten spammers!  SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn >Google groups used to do a good job of preventing spam. > >Now all the groups are loaded with it every day. > >Rotten spammers! It used to be that Road Runner, your news service was the worst source of newsgroup spam on the planet, now thanks to gmail/blogspot and google's all out greed, Google has become it's own worst enemy. SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/type1and2/ http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" http://www.ratbags.com/dechunging/ "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . > Google groups used to do a good job of preventing spam. > Now all the groups are loaded with it every day. > Rotten spammers! What program are you using to read the newsgroups? If it gives you the option to report spammers, try that; groups-abuse@google.com doesn't appear to pay attention when I report spam, but maybe they'd pay more attention to someone sending through the gmail.com part of their company. I suspect that someone in their abuse department has quit his or her job, not leaving enough people there to handle the increasing number of spammers who post through Google Groups. By the way, there's now a way to killfile spammers if you're reading the newsgroups through Google Groups, but it requires you to install and use a rather uncommon browser program. Let me know if you want the details. In alt.support.diabetes on Thu, 3 Apr 2008 13:22:45 -0500 in Msg.# <Af9Jj.15671$9O.15429@bignews3.bellsouth.net>, "Robert Miles" <robertmiles@bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote: > By the way, there's now a way to killfile spammers if you're reading the > newsgroups through Google Groups, but it requires you to install and > use a rather uncommon browser program. Let me know if you want the > details. Firefox is rather uncommon?!!! That's news to me. <G> The instructions on how to KF in Google Groups that Mack posted not long ago is superb in how clear & well written it is. I poached it to offer elsewhere. And, I think he poached it from the person who wrote the script. SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel USA 06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 HbA1c 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg Current ................... HbA1c 6.3 "Love thy neighbor as thyself & you don't get to choose your neighbor. This is one community in this country & I'm tired of having it divided. We're all in this together." - Gov. Howard Dean, the Democratic Party philosophy to him, guest on THE DAILY SHOW WITH JON STEWART, June 23, 2005 > In alt.support.diabetes on Thu, 3 Apr 2008 13:22:45 -0500 in Msg.# > <Af9Jj.15671$9O.15...@bignews3.bellsouth.net>, "Robert Miles" [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > in this together." - Gov. Howard Dean, the Democratic Party philosophy to > him, guest on THE DAILY SHOW WITH JON STEWART, June 23, 2005 Could you post the information again, please? Thanks! Michelle C., T2 diet & exercise >> In alt.support.diabetes on Thu, 3 Apr 2008 13:22:45 -0500 in Msg.# >> <Af9Jj.15671$9O.15...@bignews3.bellsouth.net>, "Robert Miles" [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Michelle C., T2 > diet & exercise From: Nuclear Waste MyHandle@mchsi.com To: alt.fan.heinlein Subject: For those using Google Groups 1 Install firefox which you can get from the Mozilla site. This is to be able to get the extension you need. 2 Install the Greasemonkey extension( get it from https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/748 ) 3 Get the Google Groups killfile script from http://www.penney.org/google-groups-killfile-updated-2.html and load it using greasemonkey. 4 When you browse and see a thread/post by anyone you dislike simply click the new 'ignore user' link in the thread and all threads/posts from them will be no longer visible. WARNING: You'll need to manually add people who have apostrophes in their names into the killfile manually. This is done by typing in about:config into the URL bar 5 Enjoy spamfree browsing. In alt.support.diabetes on Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:46:44 -0700 (PDT) in Msg.# <a4ecd460-12c1-4416-88a6-bb9cda5eaa6b@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, > > The instructions on how to KF in Google Groups that Mack posted not long ago > > is superb in how clear & well written it is. I poached it to offer > > elsewhere. And, I think he poached it from the person who wrote the script. > > Could you post the information again, please? I hope you saw that I reposted them in a thread of their own last night right after you posted, asking. HTH. And, basically, it is an excellent version to pass along! Thanks to Mack for making it available here. SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel, http://youtube.com/watch?v=6qLqzQRFnh0 "You use a glass mirror to see your face; you use works of art to see your soul." - George Bernard Shaw. Irish literary Critic, Playwright and Essayist. 1925 Nobel Prize for Literature, 1856-1950 > In alt.support.diabetes on Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:46:44 -0700 (PDT) in Msg.# > <a4ecd460-12c1-4416-88a6-bb9cda5ea...@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > soul." - George Bernard Shaw. Irish literary Critic, Playwright and > Essayist. 1925 Nobel Prize for Literature, 1856-1950 Thank you all--Robert, Donna, and Mack. I already have Firefox, so I'm halfway there. Will give this a try. Thanks again! Michelle C., T2 diet & exercise >> In alt.support.diabetes on Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:46:44 -0700 (PDT) in Msg.# >> <a4ecd460-12c1-4416-88a6-bb9cda5ea...@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Michelle C., T2 > diet & exercise You're welcome. On Apr 4, 5:51 pm, "Robert Miles" <robertmi...@bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote: > >> In alt.support.diabetes on Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:46:44 -0700 (PDT) in Msg.# > >> <a4ecd460-12c1-4416-88a6-bb9cda5ea...@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > You're welcome. I got it! It's working! :-) Best regards, Michelle C., T2 diet & exercise > On Apr 4, 5:51 pm, "Robert Miles" <robertmi...@bellsouthNOSPAM.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > Michelle C., T2 > diet & exercise Good. Now let's see how many entries in your killfile you need. I have over 1500 so far, but I've been adding them for months and don't have a good way to prevent duplicare entries. >> >> > > The instructions on how to KF in Google Groups that Mack posted not >> >> > > long ago [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >I got it! It's working! :-) Still working for ya?! SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel USA new Windows VISTA user 06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 HbA1c 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg Current ................... HbA1c 6.3 "Behind every successful woman ... is a substantial amount of coffee." - Stephanie Piro > On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 18:12:31 -0700 (PDT), "Michelle C." > <bookbug2005@gmail.com> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Still working for ya?! I've found that is possible to discourage spammers posting through Google Groups from posting to your favorite newsgroups, but more difficult than doing the same to spammers posting through sites harder on spammers. groups-abuse@google.com apparantly doesn't do much for many reports of spam, even if you include all headers as well as the whole spam message, and even when they do something, it seldom prevents the spammers from creating a new Google Groups account and sending spam again. However, if you constantly send such spam reports for over a month, they'll do enough that the spammers decide to exclude those newsgroups from the ones they post spam to. I've been sending such messages for over a month, and many of the spammers now seem to have quit posting spam to asd. There seem to be a few that need more effort, though, so I'll keep on doing it. On Apr 12, 5:23 pm, DonnaB shallotpeel <shallotp...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> >> > > The instructions on how to KF in Google Groups that Mack posted not > >> >> > > long ago [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > "Behind every successful woman ... is a substantial amount of coffee." - > Stephanie Piro Yep! Thanks! :-) Best regards, Michelle C., T2 diet & exercise > Thank you all--Robert, Donna, and Mack. I already have Firefox, so > I'm halfway there. Will give this a try. But if you're going to download and install something, why not make it a real newsreader? SignatureWes Groleau You always have time for what you do first. > > Thank you all--Robert, Donna, and Mack. I already have Firefox, so > > I'm halfway there. Will give this a try. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > You always have time for what you do first. What do you suggest? I don't have newsgroups from my internet provider (if I did, I could use Outlook Express), and I don't want to pay for newsgroups. Thanks! Best regards, Michelle C., T2 diet & exercise >>> Thank you all--Robert, Donna, and Mack. I already have Firefox, so >>> I'm halfway there. Will give this a try. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > provider (if I did, I could use Outlook Express), and I don't want to > pay for newsgroups. Try:- news.tornevall.net/ It's a free news server, open by invitation which you can ask for on the website. The guy runs it as a hobby in Sweden, so it can be a bit flaky now & again, especially at European peak times. If you're in the USA, your times are a few hours adrift, so your peaks shouldn't match his peaks, if you see what I mean. If you're in the Firefox fold, then Thunderbird is not *too* bad a way to read news, & it's the right price. There are others, just google for free news server. SignatureTciao for Now! John. >> > Thank you all--Robert, Donna, and Mack. I already have Firefox, so >> > I'm halfway there. Will give this a try. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Michelle C., T2 > diet & exercise If you only want the text-only newsgroups, there are a number of free newsgroups providers. Here's one I've read is one of the better ones: http://www.motzarella.org/ In alt.support.diabetes on Sat, 5 Apr 2008 11:51:52 -0700 (PDT) in Msg.# <322e9900-be3d-4564-986a-1a6d5376b428@n1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, > > > Thank you all--Robert, Donna, and Mack. I already have Firefox, so > > > I'm halfway there. Will give this a try. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > provider (if I did, I could use Outlook Express), and I don't want to > pay for newsgroups. Well, there are still a few free Usenet access providers. But, the real bargain is the (text groups only but all text groups) German server that many of us have used for years. Before so many USA ISPs dropped their Usenet service, they used to be free, period. But, now they charge a nominal annual fee. One year it worked out to 12 dollars US, another year 14 dollars US, etc. I'm not sure exactly what it would be this second because of the exchange rate. But, they really cover text newsgrous. Rarely do they miss posts. They are quick in getting & sending posts. They are reliable. They used to keep the spam almost completely down but now it seems like no one can keep up entirely & users definitely need kill file abilities more because of it. Here's that info in case you want it: The German news server: http://news.individual.net/ Go there & sign up & arrange payment & you'll get an email with info like this: ________________________________________ Subject: [######] Confirming Your Registration for Individual.NET NetNews Service From: news-register@individual.net (Newsteam Individual.NET) Date: xxxxx Welcome to the NetNews service of Individual.NET, On the server "News.Individual.NET" you can now read and write articles in about xx,xxx national and international newsgroups. Please configure the program you are using for accessing our server with the following parameters: Server/Newsserver News.Individual.NET Username/Account yourname Password nonsenseletters Userid xxxxxx (generally not required) You will find more detailed instructions for configuring your software in the web: http://news.individual.net/config.html In case of problems please write an email to "news-register@individual.net". Please observe our policy: http://news.individual.net/rules.html Registration and use of this NetNews service blah blah associated University blah, Germany. More information about the NetNews service is available in the web: http://news.individual.net/ Enjoy reading NetNews. Name Name, news team Individual.NET ____________________________ You will need a piece of software - a newsreader. You will plug values into it where the info it wants as to your server/provider, username, password, etc. Then, it will be blank, ready software & you will have to get a list of all the newsgroups your provider offers. Then you will subscribe to the ones you want. (You'd have done almost all of this with AOL in the past, but they just wouldn't have called things by their right names, etc. so it would do you no good ... like, now.) SignatureDonna B : ^> shallotpeel <*> RIP Gene Pitney 04-05-06 @ 65 http://youtube.com/watch?v=hwK-tUrBYa8 "Town Without Pity" http://youtube.com/watch?v=HGfvSPLqYFs "I'm Gonna Be Strong" > Well, there are still a few free Usenet access providers. But, the real > bargain is the (text groups only but all text groups) German server that [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > can keep up entirely & users definitely need kill file abilities more > because of it. It's billed in Euros at the interbank rate on the day you pay. 10 Euros plus any commission your bank charges, so about USD 16 or 17 a year at the moment. Apparently, the Click'n'Buy option for payment is currently broken, but I believe they can accept payment by Paypal. Excellent service, very good backup. I recently changed from the Tornevall.net free server to Individual. SignatureTciao for Now! John. On Apr 5, 12:53 pm, John Williamson <johnwilliam...@btinternet.com> wrote: > > Well, there are still a few free Usenet access providers. But, the real > > bargain is the (text groups only but all text groups) German server that [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > John. Thanks everyone! I am copying the links to your suggestions and will check it out. :-) Best regards, Michelle C., T2 diet & exercise >On Apr 5, 12:53 pm, John Williamson <johnwilliam...@btinternet.com> >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >Thanks everyone! I am copying the links to your suggestions and will >check it out. :-) Great! Let us know how it works for you, if you try it. I notice that several more free servers have been mentioned, too! SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel : ^> USA <*> new WIN Vista user 06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 HbA1c 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg Current ................... HbA1c 6.3 Tree Pollen: 04/08-2655; 04/09-2787; 04/10-2805; 04/11-3238; 04/14-3327 "Children are a wonderful gift ... They have an extraordinary capacity to see into the heart of things and to expose sham and humbug for what they are." - Desmond Tutu (1931-) THE WORDS OF DESMOND TUTU [1989] > What do you suggest? I don't have newsgroups from my internet > provider (if I did, I could use Outlook Express), and I don't want to > pay for newsgroups. Well, I see you have plenty of newsserver suggestions. For a reader, I like Thunderbird. Outlook works, but it's not ideal. Though it does make "block sender" slightly easier than Thunderbird. Agent doesn't cost much, and does a few things that Thunderbird doesn't. But I _really_ like the price of Thunderbird. SignatureWes Groleau ----------- Curmudgeon's Complaints on Courtesy: http://www.onlinenetiquette.com/courtesy1.html (Not necessarily my opinion, but worth reading) > > What do you suggest? I don't have newsgroups from my internet > > provider (if I did, I could use Outlook Express), and I don't want to [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Curmudgeon's Complaints on Courtesy:http://www.onlinenetiquette.com/courtesy1.html > (Not necessarily my opinion, but worth reading) Thanks Wes. I'll add Thunderbird to my research list. :-) Best regards, Michelle C., T2 diet & exercise In article <52164aa7-e84f-49b3-8139-a3bad44e8e50 @q27g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, bookbug2005@gmail.com says... > > > What do you suggest? I don't have newsgroups from my internet > > > provider (if I did, I could use Outlook Express), and I don't want to [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Michelle C., T2 > diet & exercise Free, no account needed and pretty good too! http://news.aioe.org/ >> > What do you suggest? I don't have newsgroups from my internet >> > provider (if I did, I could use Outlook Express), and I don't want to [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Michelle C., T2 > diet & exercise Then you may want to look at this website: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/all.html >In alt.support.diabetes on Thu, 3 Apr 2008 13:22:45 -0500 in Msg.# ><Af9Jj.15671$9O.15429@bignews3.bellsouth.net>, "Robert Miles" [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Firefox is rather uncommon?!!! That's news to me. <G> The add on is uncommon. >The instructions on how to KF in Google Groups that Mack posted not long ago >is superb in how clear & well written it is. I poached it to offer >elsewhere. And, I think he poached it from the person who wrote the script. The person I poached it from had his named included in my post and in your last quote of it here in this group. SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/type1and2/ http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" http://www.ratbags.com/dechunging/ "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . >Google groups used to do a good job of preventing spam. > >Now all the groups are loaded with it every day. > >Rotten spammers! Does anyone have a kf solution that works with Agent? It is becoming difficult to find genuine new comers whom I'd like to help. Thanks, SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin >>Google groups used to do a good job of preventing spam. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Thanks, G'day Quentin, I suggest we chose a board, or tribunal, who will examine the credentials of every new poster to determine whether she or he is suitable to post and who deserve our help. Needless to say, I don't want to be part of that board........ Henry Mydlarz >>> Google groups used to do a good job of preventing spam. >>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Henry Mydlarz Henry, i have never seen Quentin 'question the credentials' of a new poster......... i am taking his 'genuine' to mean versus the spammers and chung's crowd kate >>>> Google groups used to do a good job of preventing spam. >>>> >>>> Now all the groups are loaded with it every day. >>>> >>>> Rotten spammers! [snip] Lately, I've been seeing fewer spammers than usual. But there are also fewer other messages than usual, so I don't know whether it's because my newsgroups server has problems, or because groups-abuse@google.com finally does enough to discourage the spammers if you keep on sending then copies of the spam with all headers for at least a month. >Henry, i have never seen Quentin 'question the credentials' of a new >poster......... i am taking his 'genuine' to mean versus the spammers >and chung's crowd > >kate Absolutely Kate, When one has a thought and it doesn't make sense given what one knows about the person posting it is reasonable to think again. Best wishes. SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin >G'day Quentin, > >I suggest we chose a board, or tribunal, who will examine the credentials of >every new poster to determine whether she or he is suitable to post and who >deserve our help. G'day G'day Henry, It is good to see you are in cheerful spirits. Obviously I'm not in the least concerned about the credentials of new posters. The posts I find time consuming to deal with are those that offer fake nike running shoes and Rolex watches. Currently I delete them. There is however a slight risk that I might inadvertently delete a post from some new comer or some other relevant post tucked away amongst three or four of the spam posts. Best wishes, SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin >>Google groups used to do a good job of preventing spam. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >It is becoming difficult to find genuine new comers whom I'd like to >help. Take a look at nfilter at http://www.nfilter.org It will work with most, if not all newsreaders because it sits in between the newsreader and port 119 (or whatever port you have configured for reading news). It's very simple to install. All you need do is tell your newsreader to talk to "localhost" instead of your ISP, and then tell nfilter to talk to your ISP. Example using Agent and supernews: Under Options->User and System Profile->System I had "news.supernews.com". I changed that to "localhost". I then ran nfilter and under Edit->Configration->Network, I changed Server Name to "news.supernews.com". You can then hide nfilter and use Agent in the same way as usual. Setting up filters is a little more tricky. For best results, it requires some knowledge of regular expressions. There are lots of examples and tutorials around, though. When you set up filters, you have the choice of just flagging them or dropping them altogether. You can flag them permanently, which will allow you to spot the bad ones easily, or just while testing your regular expressions, then changing to "drop" when you have it right. Here are a couple of examples: Subject: Wholesale Movado-0605012 Cheapest is flagged by the entry * flag:[SPAM] from:.*@aaa-replica-watch.com or dropped by the entry * drop from:.*@aaa-replica-watch.com You can also make filters that are specific to a newsgroup... alt.support.diabetes flag:[TWIT] from:.* rk * As well, you can filter of things that Agent can't, like crossposting from specific newsgroups. Anyway, it's free, though no longer supported by its author. If you decide to start using it, I'd be happy to supply some filters for the nfilter.dat file that work for me. Hope this helps. SignatureLarry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada. DX 24 Aug 07. D&E Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 (4 Mar 08) >>>Google groups used to do a good job of preventing spam. >>> [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > >Hope this helps. Forgot to mention; the "flag:" entry above will result in your subject line in Agent's header window looking like this: [SPAM] Wholesale Movado-0605012 Cheapest I like to use flags that indicate the "testing" status, like: [SPAM-?], or [TROLL-MAYBE] That way, I can easily check to see if the filter is working the way I expect it to, or in the case of a [TROLL] or a [TWIT], I can check to see if it was a one-time aberration or not. It's then real easy to change the "flag:" to a "drop". Oh, and the other use for the "flag:" is to highlight a poster you want to read. I have you flagged with a reminder that is easier to notice than the "from" entry in the header window. SignatureLarry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada. DX 24 Aug 07. D&E Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 (4 Mar 08) >Forgot to mention; the "flag:" entry above will result in your subject >line in Agent's header window looking like this: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >want to read. I have you flagged with a reminder that is easier to >notice than the "from" entry in the header window. G'day G'day Larry, Thanks. You're obviously much more advanced than I am with your use of filters. To do what I want to do here efficiently I need to improve my filters. Best wishes, SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin >>Forgot to mention; the "flag:" entry above will result in your subject >>line in Agent's header window looking like this: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >of filters. To do what I want to do here efficiently I need to >improve my filters. Well, if you grab nfilter, I would certainly be willing to help you with the filter file, so there's no real need for you to get into the advanced part of it. SignatureLarry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada. DX 24 Aug 07. D&E Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 (4 Mar 08) >>>Forgot to mention; the "flag:" entry above will result in your subject >>>line in Agent's header window looking like this: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > with the filter file, so there's no real need for you to get into the > advanced part of it. I know a person (not in this newsgroup) who, in a masterstroke of setup, configered the kf in her news program to include all posters. There was a brief period of surprise why the newsgroup went strangely quiet... Henry Mydlarz >>>>Forgot to mention; the "flag:" entry above will result in your subject >>>>line in Agent's header window looking like this: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >configered the kf in her news program to include all posters. There was a >brief period of surprise why the newsgroup went strangely quiet... Been known to happen :-). That's why it's a good idea to test, and test a lot. In the case of crossposting filters, it's easy enough; just find the newsgroup you want to filter, set something like * flag:[XPOST] Xref:.cardiology. then try reading in sci.med.cardiology to make sure it flags them all. Follow that with a week or two reading asd, checking the ones it flags, and then, if it looks like that's what you want to eliminate, change it to: * drop Xref:.cardiology. Takes a while, but the results are REALLY worth it. SignatureLarry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada. DX 24 Aug 07. D&E Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 (4 Mar 08) >I know a person (not in this newsgroup) who, in a masterstroke of setup, >configered the kf in her news program to include all posters. There was a >brief period of surprise why the newsgroup went strangely quiet... > >Henry Mydlarz G'day G'day Henry, It would do that. Would it ever ... A similar misadventure can occur with emails. Some spam artists use YOUR email address in the reply field. If you block the sender guess who gets blocked. Best wishes, SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin >I know a person (not in this newsgroup) who, in a masterstroke of setup, >configered the kf in her news program to include all posters. There was a >brief period of surprise why the newsgroup went strangely quiet... I've met more than one person who killfiled themselves . . . > >I know a person (not in this newsgroup) who, in a masterstroke of setup, > >configered the kf in her news program to include all posters. There was a > >brief period of surprise why the newsgroup went strangely quiet... > > I've met more than one person who killfiled themselves . . . I placed a trouble-ticket with my ISP for a broken newsfeed when I had, totally inadvertently, killed *all* subject lines. They forgave me. Signature"[xxx] has very definite opinions, and does not suffer fools lightly. This, apparently, upsets the fools." ---BB cuts to the pith of a flame-fest >>>Google groups used to do a good job of preventing spam. >>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >>It is becoming difficult to find genuine new comers whom I'd like to >>help. G'day G'day Oleg, Firstly thank you for understanding my request. I find I have to be very careful deleting posts for replica Rolex watches making sure I don't also accidentally delete relevant posts. >Take a look at nfilter at http://www.nfilter.org > [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > >Hope this helps. It does. Very much so. Thank you, Best wishes, SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin G'day G'day Larry, You went to a lot of effort to provide me with an excellent solution to my problems by recommending nfilter. Like anyone who puts in the effort you are likely to be wondering if I've taken your advice and how it is going. Well went to the nfilter site and looked to see if it was compatible with Windows XP. Windows XP wasn't listed and that made me wary. Especially now the originator of the software no longer supports it. I've had a few things go wrong with my computer and didn't want to add to them. Secondly I figured the latest version of Agent should be able to do most of the filtering I required. It had to be a matter of my not fully exploiting its potential. The cross posting issue hasn't bothered me much recently for some reason. Whatever. Up until now I had been filtering by author etc This of course doesn't work with the crowd who change addressed for each spam of Nike, cheap wholesale fake Rolex. (Some people won't be reading this post if they filter the entire post for such key words) I discovered that I could filter for those key words without Subject or Author. Most of my problems disappeared. However your post has drawn my attention to the benefits I could be enjoying when I get a technowhiz to safely talk me through setting up nfilter. So the quick summary is that it hasn't happened yet but it definitely could. best wishes, Quentin. >>>Google groups used to do a good job of preventing spam. >>> [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > >Hope this helps. SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin >I've had a few things go wrong with my computer and didn't want to add >to them. Secondly I figured the latest version of Agent should be [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >for those key words without Subject or Author. Most of my problems >disappeared. Check out alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent also http://forteinc.com/agent/faq.php Filtering can be made much more complicated than my poor brain can handle, or as simple as right click - filter - edit the subject >Check out alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Filtering can be made much more complicated than my poor brain can >handle, or as simple as right click - filter - edit the subject Thanks. In retrospect it seems I was making things more complicated than I needed to meet my needs. Best wishes, SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin >G'day G'day Larry, > > You went to a lot of effort to provide me with an excellent >solution to my problems by recommending nfilter. Like anyone who >puts in the effort you are likely to be wondering if I've taken your >advice and how it is going. Thanks for responding. It is nice to know that my efforts didn't just go into the bit bucket. >Well went to the nfilter site and looked to see if it was compatible >with Windows XP. Windows XP wasn't listed and that made me wary. >Especially now the originator of the software no longer supports it. I run XP, and have also used nfilter on Windows 2000. The support is not a really big deal, for a few reasons. First is that it does a creditable job of filtering, and has not proven to be buggy in any way I've noticed. The second is that the source code is available, and there are folks working with it. This means that there are a few improved versions out there, though you do have to be somewhat careful to choose your download sites carefully if you want to upgrade. In fact, I have made a slight modification of the source code I got from nfilter.org, to do something I find quite useful. When you run nfilter, you can bring up a window to view the "dropped articles" information. Unfortunately, it only tells you that it dropped one, which one it was by reference number, and which rule caused it to be dropped. The problem with stating which rule it used is that it is reported as a rule number, which becomes very hard to find in the nfilter.dat file, because of the comment lines. My modification saves a file called "RuleSet.txt" that contains all rules, in order, each one beginning with "Filter n". I may get around to changing the output of the "dropped articles" view to better identify the article too, but it's low priority. >I've had a few things go wrong with my computer and didn't want to add >to them. Secondly I figured the latest version of Agent should be [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >for those key words without Subject or Author. Most of my problems >disappeared. To give you an example (forgive me if this was already obvious to you from y previous raving), I have the following filter in nfilter.dat. * flag:[SPAM-cheap] subject:*[Cc][Hh][Ee][Aa][Pp].* This one flags ant posting with the word "cheap" in the subject line, regardless of whether or not any of the word is in upper or lower case. It will flag any post with "cheap", Cheap", or "cHeAP" Note that it does not drop the article. I just had a look through my headers, and see that it flagged one, which read: "Hot ! ! ! china discount cheap mauri sneakers nike james air force ones mid cut AF1 shoes etc" and it now shows up as: "[SPAM-cheap] Hot ! ! ! china discount cheap mauri sneakers nike james air force ones mid cut AF1 shoes etc" So, if I see [SPAM-cheap], all I have to do is take a look at the subject line and not bother reading it. Since I am not any more interested in the reaction of other posters to the spam, I won't be interested in anything with that subject. But since you might not want to take the chance that someone didn't reply with information about his peripheral neuropathy worsening while wearing discount shoes, you always have the option of looking inside the post. The flip side of this sort of filter is that you don't drop articles with a subject like "Quentin's book would be cheap at twice the price" >However your post has drawn my attention to the benefits I could be >enjoying when I get a technowhiz to safely talk me through setting up >nfilter. Be glad to walk you (and anyone else) through it, and to supply you with some working filters. >So the quick summary is that it hasn't happened yet but it definitely >could. SignatureLarry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada. DX 24 Aug 07. D&E Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 (4 Mar 08) >Be glad to walk you (and anyone else) through it, and to supply you >with some working filters. G'day G'day Larry, Thank you Larry, This week my highest priority is getting some exam editing completed. For that reason I'll be somewhat withdrawn as far as ASD is concerned. I'd appreciate my friends keeping in touch though. If any newcomers should appear with a question that appears highly relevant to my field of knowledge send me an email to let me know. It is the time taken up with searching that I really can't afford at the moment Best wishes, SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin >Google groups used to do a good job of preventing spam. > >Now all the groups are loaded with it every day. > >Rotten spammers! I seem to recall a loud political statement made on prosecuting spammers especially those who promoted dangerous medical treatments. What became of that? SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin >>Google groups used to do a good job of preventing spam. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > What became of that? It seems to be difficult to do for spammers who post from different countries, such as China. |
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