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ironjustice - 02 Apr 2008 01:45 GMT
Lipids. 1998 Jul;33(7):689-95.Related Articles, Links
Protective effects of lemon flavonoids on oxidative stress in diabetic
rats.

Miyake Y, Yamamoto K, Tsujihara N, Osawa T.

Central Research Laboratory of Pokka Corporation, Ltd., Aichi, Japan.
yoshiaki_miyake@mr.pokka.co.jp

The effects of lemon flavonoids, as crude flavonoids prepared from
lemon juice, were investigated in diabetic rats. The oxidative stress
of eriocitrin (eriodictyol 7-O-beta-rutinoside) and hesperidin
(hesperetin 7-O-beta-rutinoside) on streptozotocin-induced diabetic
rats was investigated. Diabetic rats were given a diet which contained
0.2% crude flavonoids, 0.2% eriocitrin, and 0.2% hesperidin. After the
28-d feeding period, the concentration of the thiobarbituric acid-
reactive substance in the serum, liver, and kidney of diabetic rats
administered crude flavonoids, eriocitrin, and hesperidin
significantly decreased as compared with that of the diabetic group.
The levels of 8-hydroxydeoxyguanosine, which is exchanged from
deoxyguanosine owing to oxidative stress, in the urine of diabetic
rats administered eriocitrin and hesperidin significantly decreased as
compared with that of the diabetic rat group. Crude flavonoids,
eriocitrin, and hesperidin suppressed the oxidative stress in the
diabetic rats. These results demonstrated that dietary lemon
flavonoids of eriocitrin and hesperidin play a role as antioxidant in
vivo.

PMID: 9688172 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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Mr-Natural-Health - 02 Apr 2008 11:58 GMT
STOP Posting Garbage from PubMed!

Your garbage has absolutely nothing to do with either science or the
Scientific Method.

It is pretty pathetic when an advocate of Natural Health knows more
about the scientific method, researching PubMed, and the art of
communication than the current crop of science Geeks currently posting
on these so-called science ngs do.

Postings straight from PubMed are only interesting when they are being
used to support a point being made by a poster.

The wholesale dumping of abstracts from PubMed without preceding each
posting with a clearly articulated statement being presented by a
poster is a total waste of bandwidth, is an irritation, is nothing but
SPAM, Garbage, Crap, or any other totally negative connotation that
anybody might want to call it.

It positively ain't science.  It is just pure laziness on your part,
with a good amount of mushy thinking skills thrown in.

I am not your Mommy, children.  I know how to research PubMed.  I am
glad that you know, too.  But unless you explicitly point out the
conclusions that you are trying to make, I really do not to care to
see your crap floating in the science ng toilet bowl.

Please Science Geeks, learn to flush the toilet after each use.

Ironjusice, Jesus and Science used in the same sentence is an
oxymoron.

Just thought that you Dumb-a.ses might want to know, that I know more
about the scientific method than you do.
ironjustice - 02 Apr 2008 14:53 GMT
On Apr 2, 3:58 am, Mr-Natural-Health <john-h-
go...@naturalhealthperspective.com> wrote: I am not your Mommy<<

Well you ACT .. like a .. woman .. ?

You expect people not to think you ARE .. compromised .. ?

Heh .. heh ..

John .. you ARE a pussy .. will always be a pussy and most likely have
been a pussy all of your life ..

You are more like your mother than you think .. or more like your ..
father .. ?

Was your father a pussy .. too .. john .. ?

Did he get in fights .. john ..

Do you get in fights .. john ..

Ever had your a.s whupped .. son .. ?

Who loves ya.
Tom

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DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
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> Just thought that you Dumb-a.ses might want to know, that I know more
> about the scientific method than you do.
saavik - 02 Apr 2008 16:33 GMT
> On Apr 2, 3:58 am, Mr-Natural-Health <john-h-
> go...@naturalhealthperspective.com> wrote: I am not your Mommy<<
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>
>  
My cat knows more about the scientific method than rusty-boy does.

Just so you don't mistake the rest of us, pretty much everyone here
knows rusty is a moron. We try to ignore him; many people have him
killfiled.
Paul T. Holland - 02 Apr 2008 20:13 GMT
> On Apr 2, 3:58 am, Mr-Natural-Health <john-h-
> go...@naturalhealthperspective.com> wrote: I am not your Mommy<<
>
> Well you ACT .. like a .. woman .. ?

well, more than a bit misogynistic of you  tommy
Shelley - 02 Apr 2008 17:56 GMT
Please address yourself to the specific individuals annoying you and not to
the general NG.  I don't consider myself to be a dumbass, thank you, and
resent being lumped in with whoever you have decided is stupider than you.
If you don't have anything nice to say, please don't say anything at all...

Shelley

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> Just thought that you Dumb-a.ses might want to know, that I know more
> about the scientific method than you do.
never@millions.com - 02 Apr 2008 18:48 GMT
>Please address yourself to the specific individuals annoying you and not to
>the general NG.  I don't consider myself to be a dumbass, thank you, and
>resent being lumped in with whoever you have decided is stupider than you.
>If you don't have anything nice to say, please don't say anything at all...
>
>Shelley

Did that son-of-bitch call us Dumb-a.ses? And he claimed to know more
about the scientific method than we do?

Hot damn! another Messiah of Megalomania has arrived . . . again. Let
us bask in His glory and let the ever shining . . .

This clown has quickly immmersed himself in a self proclamation and
has established his popularity among the folks on ASMS.

I'm going to take my mid-morning nap.

Donn
Robert Miles - 02 Apr 2008 22:52 GMT
Which newsgroup?  The message you were responding to was crossposted
to five newsgroups, not just one.

> Please address yourself to the specific individuals annoying you and not
> to the general NG.  I don't consider myself to be a dumbass, thank you,
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>
>> X-No-Archive: yes

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never@millions.com - 02 Apr 2008 23:12 GMT
>Which newsgroup?  The message you were responding to was crossposted
>to five newsgroups, not just one.

So what?

Donn
Shelley - 03 Apr 2008 10:40 GMT
My apologies for missing the fact that this nitwit crossposts his nonsense
to multiple groups.  I am posting from the MS group, but assume others are
just as bored with this fellow as I.

> Which newsgroup?  The message you were responding to was crossposted
> to five newsgroups, not just one.
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>>>
> [snip]
Robert Miles - 03 Apr 2008 17:10 GMT
Does your newsreader program allow killfiles (sets of rules to delete
any messages from someone whose messages you don't want to see
again?  Windows Mail under Vista does, and I have 1491 such rules
so far.  Unfortunately, I haven't found a way to set up a rules that
block all messages crossposted to a newsgroup favored by trolls.

> My apologies for missing the fact that this nitwit crossposts his nonsense
> to multiple groups.  I am posting from the MS group, but assume others are
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>> [snip]
Shelley - 04 Apr 2008 09:51 GMT
Thanks, I do use kill files for Tommy and his pals, but I just can't resist
admonishing the trolls a bit, especially newer ones.  Hopefully he's gone
back under his bridge for now...

I feel for the people who use WebTV or other systems that don't allow them
to block anything.

> Does your newsreader program allow killfiles (sets of rules to delete
> any messages from someone whose messages you don't want to see
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>>> [snip]
Mr-Natural-Health - 03 Apr 2008 04:55 GMT
> Please address yourself to the specific individuals annoying you and not to
> the general NG.  I don't consider myself to be a dumbass,

You are a dumbass, now.

So, thank you for proving me right. :)
never@millions.com - 03 Apr 2008 06:18 GMT
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>So, thank you for proving me right. :)

You're the type that needs to have your intellectual a.s kick. You're
nothing more than a self centered twit with no class, no purpose and
little to offer.
Shelley - 03 Apr 2008 10:43 GMT
Sticks and stones may break my bones but spammers will never hurt me... :)
And even a stopped clock is right twice a day.  Enjoy.

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> So, thank you for proving me right. :)
Alex - 03 Apr 2008 11:09 GMT
> X-No-Archive: yes
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Whats the matter, afraid someone will use your own words against you?
Afraid to stand behind what you say?  Can't keep your stories straight?
Inquiring minds want to know.

>> Please address yourself to the specific individuals annoying you and not to
>> the general NG.  I don't consider myself to be a dumbass,
>
> You are a dumbass, now.

Thats a *great* response, to a reasonable request.

> So, thank you for proving me right. :)

The only thing that has been proven, is that some dumbass (that would be
you) cross-posted a 'shotgun' attack to multiple groups, without setting
a 'Followup-To:' header to one, appropriate group, thereby firing off
all responses to all of the named groups.

Why you even included asms, other than sheer ignorance, is beyond me.
You claim superiority, even though the most *lame*, *insignificant*,
*half-hearted* attempt to research this group, would have shown you that
the *only* one rampantly posting abstracts in, or cross-posted to, this
group, is iron-boy.

Oh, wait, I'm sorry, you *did* prove something else.  You *did* prove
*yourself*, with your response, above, to be in the same category as
iron-boy.  I guess that explains it, huh?

What a dumbass.

Note: Followup has been set to the appropriate group.

Alex
Màck©® - 03 Apr 2008 07:03 GMT
>X-No-Archive: yes
>
>STOP Posting Garbage from PubMed!

phuck you very much.

you are widely considered a troll and scammer.

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Michael B - 03 Apr 2008 11:34 GMT
For you, that likely already knows this:

100 grams of cricket contains: 121 calories, 12.9 grams
of protein, 5.5 g. of fat, 5.1 g. of carbohydrates, 75.8 mg.
calcium, 185.3 mg. of phosphorous, 9.5 mg. of iron,
0.36 mg. of thiamin, 1.09 mg. of riboflavin, and
3.10 mg. of niacin.

Compare this with 100 grams of ground beef, which,
although it contains more protein (23.5 g.), also has
288.2 calories and a whopping 21.2 grams of fat!

On Apr 2, 5:58 am, Mr-Natural-Health <john-h-
go...@naturalhealthperspective.com> wrote:
> Just thought that you Dumb-a.ses might want to know, that I know more
> about the scientific method than you do.
dar - 02 Apr 2008 15:12 GMT
> Lipids. 1998 Jul;33(7):689-95.Related Articles, Links
> Protective effects of lemon flavonoids on oxidative stress in diabetic
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

Hahahha - Major Tom,

You do have a sense of humor after all !!!! :-)

Shhhhh, I won't tell anyone....... don't want to spoil your
image!  :-)

Take care and be well out there!  Debra
dar - 02 Apr 2008 15:17 GMT
> Lipids. 1998 Jul;33(7):689-95.Related Articles, Links
> Protective effects of lemon flavonoids on oxidative stress in diabetic
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

Hahahaha - Major Tom,

RE:  Your Title:  Lemon Pie

You have a sense of humor after all !!!  :-)

Shhhhh, I won't tell anyone.....

Take care and be well out there!  Debra
 
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