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guys@consolidated.net - 26 Mar 2008 23:21 GMT
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23800703

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Cheri - 26 Mar 2008 23:31 GMT
guys@consolidated.net wrote in message ...

>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23800703

It would be nice if you could reference what the link is about. I'd
rather not click on links when I have no idea what they're about,
especially with my slow computer. Just a thought. :-)

Cheri
Alice Faber - 26 Mar 2008 23:43 GMT
> guys@consolidated.net wrote in message ...
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> Cheri

Agreed. Even to a mainstream news site like MSNBC.

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Beav - 27 Mar 2008 00:03 GMT
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23800703

Some information on what the link is to, would be a rather good idea don't
you think Guy? For all we know, you could be linking us to a "Grow another
penis, but bigger" site and some of us don't need one.

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guys@consolidated.net - 27 Mar 2008 00:40 GMT
>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23800703
>
>Some information on what the link is to, would be a rather good idea don't
>you think Guy? For all we know, you could be linking us to a "Grow another
>penis, but bigger" site and some of us don't need one.

Some will complain  no matter what you post.  i
decided to not give a handle to a few.

People will read them anyway.

These are general purpose links that
all will need to read.

If a person posts a discussion idea here, some will find a way
to blast instead of debating it.  This greatly reduces the value of
the  group in my eyes.

The author listing give anyone a chance to skip my posts

To me "blast" means those that hit at the author instead of the idea.

There are a lot of malcontents and they must find an outlet.  It is OK
unless it dominates the posts here.

I would be much happier if the replies raised some sensible
discussion.

If running me off is the goal, by now
you should know I am too stupid to
be influenced.  Find another goat.  

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Cheri - 27 Mar 2008 01:15 GMT
guys@consolidated.net wrote in message ...

>Some will complain  no matter what you post.  i
>decided to not give a handle to a few.

I didn't think a simple, polite request, was a complaint. I usually
follow your links if I have an idea of what they are about, if only in
the subject line, but with a slow computer, and with no "handle" from
you, I guess I'll have to pass on some of them. No problem. :-)

Cheri
guys@consolidated.net - 27 Mar 2008 01:55 GMT
>guys@consolidated.net wrote in message ...
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>Cheri

All i am trying to do is to make some items here unpleasant
to the malcontents.  This type has almost destroyed the group

We are not "flew over the "cuckoo nest"' yet, but close.

I do appreciate that you have been so kind to me.

All the hell I want is for these groups to serve sick people
that have diabetes.  I do know what many are facing in the future
and maybe what they can do to reduce the later effects.

But a collective effort is needed.  Some disturbed people do not
understand this.  The are malcontents wandering around the
Internet looking for  a mark. I wish they could come to
some  Texas bars where this is the norm.  However things
lead to a few knives or guns coming into play there.

I am sure some clown will say this is rambling of will  being a few
typos.  Or that I am vague or ????

Cheri, I didn't mean to direct this toward you.  It seems a bit
strange how some can find fault with a one word post.  I do
question their motives.

I post for one reason and personalities is of no  importance.

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Tiger_Lily - 27 Mar 2008 04:05 GMT
> guys@consolidated.net wrote in message ...
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> Cheri

i just pass on them too Cheri

if he can't at least put the flipping TITLE of the article in the
subject line, not only is that pure laziness, it's also ignorant
behaviour........... i don't know what is wrong with Guy lately :(
Beav - 29 Mar 2008 00:05 GMT
>> guys@consolidated.net wrote in message ...
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> line, not only is that pure laziness, it's also ignorant
> behaviour........... i don't know what is wrong with Guy lately :(

People stopped standing up and defending him like he was some kind of
"senior statesman".

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Beav - 28 Mar 2008 23:59 GMT
>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23800703
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> you should know I am too stupid to
> be influenced.  Find another goat.

Mmmm, all that and STILL no information.

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Oleg Lego - 29 Mar 2008 06:42 GMT
> Guy's crap snipped...

>Mmmm, all that and STILL no information.

And I wouldn't have even seen it if you hadn't answered the little
troll. Keep answering. I've only added 4 more trolls to my killfile
today.

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DarkSentinel - 29 Mar 2008 14:08 GMT
>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23800703
>
> Some information on what the link is to, would be a rather good idea don't
> you think Guy? For all we know, you could be linking us to a "Grow another
> penis, but bigger" site and some of us don't need one.

Beav, your going to get Kurt started again. Shame on you! Attacking poor guy
like that.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 27 Mar 2008 02:34 GMT
convicted friend Guy (g...@consolidated.net) wrote:

> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23800703

People with a bulging waistline in mid-life could face a higher risk
of dementia and Alzheimer's in the senior years, a new study shows.

Previous research has shown that having an apple-shaped body increases
the risk of diabetes, stroke and heart disease, but this is the first
time it has been linked to dementia and Alzheimer's.

In the study, which was published Wednesday by the journal Neurology,
people who were both obese and had a large belly were three times more
likely to be diagnosed with dementia in later years than those of
normal weight and belly size. The risk of dementia nearly doubled in
those who were a healthy weight but still had a bulging waist,
suggesting that fat accumulated around the midline is particularly
unhealthy for the brain.

"The take-home message from this study is that one should not only be
concerned about their weight but where they carry their fat," said
Rachel Whitmer, the lead author of the study and a research scientist
with Kaiser Permanente's division of research in Oakland, Calif.

The findings are particularly concerning in light of the rise in
obesity rates in the United States, Whitmer said. More than one-third
of U.S. adults are obese and about half have abdominal obesity.

On the upside
"But the good news," Whitmer added, "is that you can do something
about it." The type of fat that collects around the abdominal region
is easy to accumulate but also easy to get rid of, she said.

Lenore Launer, chief of the neuroepidemiology division at the National
Institute of Aging, said it's too early to conclude that abdominal fat
is a direct cause of dementia.

"These findings are an indicator that something is happening in the
brain and more research needs to be done looking at the role obesity
is playing in brain health when people get older," Launer said.

In the study, Whitmer's team followed up on 6,583 men and women who
had their waists measured between 1964 and 1973, when they were
between 40 and 45 years old. The measurement used, known as sagittal
abdominal diameter (SAD), is the height of the belly taken while a
person is lying down and is considered a good indicator of abdominal
fat.

A SAD of 9.8 inches or more is considered a large belly. Using medical
records, the researchers found that between 1994 to 2006, when the
study participants were between 73 and 87 years old, 1,049 had been
diagnosed with dementia or Alzheimer's disease.

Those who were both obese and had a large belly back in their 40s were
3.6 times more likely to be diagnosed later with dementia than those
who'd had a healthy weight and belly size. Those who were a healthy
weight but still had a large belly were 1.9 times more likely to
develop dementia.

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It remains smarter to lose the abdominal fat (black fat or VAT) by
simply eating less, down to the right amount:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart

A simple parable to help promote understanding:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

May we, who are Jesus' disciples, continue to pray for your perishing
soul, dear Guy:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForGuy

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
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