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guys@consolidated.net - 26 Mar 2008 23:21 GMT http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23800703
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Cheri - 26 Mar 2008 23:31 GMT guys@consolidated.net wrote in message ...
>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23800703 It would be nice if you could reference what the link is about. I'd rather not click on links when I have no idea what they're about, especially with my slow computer. Just a thought. :-)
Cheri
Alice Faber - 26 Mar 2008 23:43 GMT > guys@consolidated.net wrote in message ... > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Cheri Agreed. Even to a mainstream news site like MSNBC.
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Beav - 27 Mar 2008 00:03 GMT > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23800703 Some information on what the link is to, would be a rather good idea don't you think Guy? For all we know, you could be linking us to a "Grow another penis, but bigger" site and some of us don't need one.
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guys@consolidated.net - 27 Mar 2008 00:40 GMT >> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23800703 > >Some information on what the link is to, would be a rather good idea don't >you think Guy? For all we know, you could be linking us to a "Grow another >penis, but bigger" site and some of us don't need one. Some will complain no matter what you post. i decided to not give a handle to a few.
People will read them anyway.
These are general purpose links that all will need to read.
If a person posts a discussion idea here, some will find a way to blast instead of debating it. This greatly reduces the value of the group in my eyes.
The author listing give anyone a chance to skip my posts
To me "blast" means those that hit at the author instead of the idea.
There are a lot of malcontents and they must find an outlet. It is OK unless it dominates the posts here.
I would be much happier if the replies raised some sensible discussion.
If running me off is the goal, by now you should know I am too stupid to be influenced. Find another goat.
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Cheri - 27 Mar 2008 01:15 GMT guys@consolidated.net wrote in message ...
>Some will complain no matter what you post. i >decided to not give a handle to a few. I didn't think a simple, polite request, was a complaint. I usually follow your links if I have an idea of what they are about, if only in the subject line, but with a slow computer, and with no "handle" from you, I guess I'll have to pass on some of them. No problem. :-)
Cheri
guys@consolidated.net - 27 Mar 2008 01:55 GMT >guys@consolidated.net wrote in message ... > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Cheri All i am trying to do is to make some items here unpleasant to the malcontents. This type has almost destroyed the group
We are not "flew over the "cuckoo nest"' yet, but close.
I do appreciate that you have been so kind to me.
All the hell I want is for these groups to serve sick people that have diabetes. I do know what many are facing in the future and maybe what they can do to reduce the later effects.
But a collective effort is needed. Some disturbed people do not understand this. The are malcontents wandering around the Internet looking for a mark. I wish they could come to some Texas bars where this is the norm. However things lead to a few knives or guns coming into play there.
I am sure some clown will say this is rambling of will being a few typos. Or that I am vague or ????
Cheri, I didn't mean to direct this toward you. It seems a bit strange how some can find fault with a one word post. I do question their motives.
I post for one reason and personalities is of no importance.
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Tiger_Lily - 27 Mar 2008 04:05 GMT > guys@consolidated.net wrote in message ... > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Cheri i just pass on them too Cheri
if he can't at least put the flipping TITLE of the article in the subject line, not only is that pure laziness, it's also ignorant behaviour........... i don't know what is wrong with Guy lately :(
Beav - 29 Mar 2008 00:05 GMT >> guys@consolidated.net wrote in message ... >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > line, not only is that pure laziness, it's also ignorant > behaviour........... i don't know what is wrong with Guy lately :( People stopped standing up and defending him like he was some kind of "senior statesman".
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Beav - 28 Mar 2008 23:59 GMT >>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23800703 >> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > you should know I am too stupid to > be influenced. Find another goat. Mmmm, all that and STILL no information.
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Oleg Lego - 29 Mar 2008 06:42 GMT > Guy's crap snipped...
>Mmmm, all that and STILL no information. And I wouldn't have even seen it if you hadn't answered the little troll. Keep answering. I've only added 4 more trolls to my killfile today.
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DarkSentinel - 29 Mar 2008 14:08 GMT >> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23800703 > > Some information on what the link is to, would be a rather good idea don't > you think Guy? For all we know, you could be linking us to a "Grow another > penis, but bigger" site and some of us don't need one. Beav, your going to get Kurt started again. Shame on you! Attacking poor guy like that.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 27 Mar 2008 02:34 GMT convicted friend Guy (g...@consolidated.net) wrote:
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23800703 People with a bulging waistline in mid-life could face a higher risk of dementia and Alzheimer's in the senior years, a new study shows.
Previous research has shown that having an apple-shaped body increases the risk of diabetes, stroke and heart disease, but this is the first time it has been linked to dementia and Alzheimer's.
In the study, which was published Wednesday by the journal Neurology, people who were both obese and had a large belly were three times more likely to be diagnosed with dementia in later years than those of normal weight and belly size. The risk of dementia nearly doubled in those who were a healthy weight but still had a bulging waist, suggesting that fat accumulated around the midline is particularly unhealthy for the brain.
"The take-home message from this study is that one should not only be concerned about their weight but where they carry their fat," said Rachel Whitmer, the lead author of the study and a research scientist with Kaiser Permanente's division of research in Oakland, Calif.
The findings are particularly concerning in light of the rise in obesity rates in the United States, Whitmer said. More than one-third of U.S. adults are obese and about half have abdominal obesity.
On the upside "But the good news," Whitmer added, "is that you can do something about it." The type of fat that collects around the abdominal region is easy to accumulate but also easy to get rid of, she said.
Lenore Launer, chief of the neuroepidemiology division at the National Institute of Aging, said it's too early to conclude that abdominal fat is a direct cause of dementia.
"These findings are an indicator that something is happening in the brain and more research needs to be done looking at the role obesity is playing in brain health when people get older," Launer said.
In the study, Whitmer's team followed up on 6,583 men and women who had their waists measured between 1964 and 1973, when they were between 40 and 45 years old. The measurement used, known as sagittal abdominal diameter (SAD), is the height of the belly taken while a person is lying down and is considered a good indicator of abdominal fat.
A SAD of 9.8 inches or more is considered a large belly. Using medical records, the researchers found that between 1994 to 2006, when the study participants were between 73 and 87 years old, 1,049 had been diagnosed with dementia or Alzheimer's disease.
Those who were both obese and had a large belly back in their 40s were 3.6 times more likely to be diagnosed later with dementia than those who'd had a healthy weight and belly size. Those who were a healthy weight but still had a large belly were 1.9 times more likely to develop dementia.
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It remains smarter to lose the abdominal fat (black fat or VAT) by simply eating less, down to the right amount:
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A simple parable to help promote understanding:
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May we, who are Jesus' disciples, continue to pray for your perishing soul, dear Guy:
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Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
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