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Six days of I do not know what to call it  ;-/

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Billie - 23 Mar 2008 08:53 GMT
I am back home.  More thankful of it this time than ever before in my life!!

I have two posts up, one that is from some journal entry I wrote while
waiting for a room, and then a very short one saying..............

There was ***NEVER*** a room for me the whole time I was there!

You got it!  I lay on a Stryker frame stretcher for the entire six days!
What/where I put my body last Monday was the same place where I was when I
got up to go home yesterday, Saturday.  I've been to hell and back because
of one of *my* doctors (that was, and no longer, ever will be again).  My
time will be tied up with that for some time while I write from my notes and
journal entries I did, but I wanted to let you all know I am back home, and
seeing a few things to comment on, then I've got to turn my attention over
to *my experience* last week.  I am barely any better, except I *do* think
I've got more of the internal get-up-and-go.  Facial muscles are more
mobile.

BTW my bg was 560 when I entered.  Once I had refilled my pump, and was
doing fair, *the* doctor never checked my bg again all week.

Not sure why Jim and I *needed* this, but we have it (the investigation and
letter writing).  The stress and travel connected with it has worn Jim out.

So, I am off and running to bring all my documentation up to my first post.
I'll be checking by, especially when needing a break from all that
hullabaloo!

Billie

Ragdoll Billie on the Road to Remission
http://andlifegoesononedayonestepatatime.blogspot.com/
http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/billiewages

Striving for a world without Myasthenia Gravis
http://www.myasthenia.org/amg_whatismg.cfm
toci - 23 Mar 2008 11:33 GMT
> I am back home.  More thankful of it this time than ever before in my life!!
>
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>
> Striving for a world without Myasthenia Gravishttp://www.myasthenia.org/amg_whatismg.cfm

The word is "hell."  I'm glad you got back home.     Toci
Billie - 23 Mar 2008 15:15 GMT
On Mar 23, 2:53 am, "Billie" <some...@swbell.net> wrote:
> I am back home. More thankful of it this time than ever before in my
> life!!
>
>The word is "hell."  I'm glad you got back home.     Toci

Thank you Toci.  I was ready to stop the treatment, and come home, but Jim
was able to calm me to complete my treatment.  I was not able to write any
last night, so I am hoping I can stay awake to do so today.  I'm just glad
that I kept good notes for documentation.

Again, thank you.  The nursing staff was excellent, and did all they could
in helping me reach a calmness.  They were caught in the middle just as I
was.  Well, more about them and all in my writing.  ;)

Ragdoll Billie on the Road to Remission
http://andlifegoesononedayonestepatatime.blogspot.com/
http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/billiewages

Striving for a world without Myasthenia Gravis
http://www.myasthenia.org/amg_whatismg.cfm
dumb_fishie99@yahoo.com - 23 Mar 2008 21:58 GMT
>On Mar 23, 2:53 am, "Billie" <some...@swbell.net> wrote:
>> I am back home. More thankful of it this time than ever before in my
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>in helping me reach a calmness.  They were caught in the middle just as I
>was.  Well, more about them and all in my writing.  ;)

I'm so sorry you went through that Billie.  Oh dear, I'm very nervous,
considering the way I  deal with things even when the apartment
maintenance people lie to me, which is every time.  Took me a
long time to figure out how that particular game works, but it seems
even the ones who got fired and then came back still even remember
me.

Now I at least know how to get it done calmly, but hospitals are whole
different ball of wax, and it's a lot different when you are
incapacitated.
Nick Cramer - 23 Mar 2008 23:46 GMT
> "toci" <gina39d@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> On Mar 23, 2:53 am, "Billie" <some...@swbell.net> wrote:
> > I am back home. More thankful of it this time than ever before in my
> > life!!

Hi, Billie. Glad to see your Warrior's Attitude!

I, too, had an idiot doctor. All he knew to do was prescribe medines for
everything (most of which had side effects worse than the ocndition for
which they were prescribed. Thus, I never filled them) and order surgeries
for unverified conditions (which I never underwent). _Had_ is the operative
word. My cardiologist (a test, analyze, discuss guy) recommended my current
doctor, who turned out to also be a diabetitian. Perfect! And, finally, a
great doctor.

Best wishes for your continued improvement,

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kathy - 23 Mar 2008 18:29 GMT
> I am back home.  More thankful of it this time than ever before in my life!!
>
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>
> Striving for a world without Myasthenia Gravishttp://www.myasthenia.org/amg_whatismg.cfm

Billie,
     Although you don't know me, l have sometimes added my 2 cents,
wanted or unwanted. My heart aches at the thought of you lying in a
hallway ill, and lied to for 6 days. l just wanted to say that is what
happened to my husband so
many times l lost count. Sadly now he is gone. They overdosed him on
insulin. l wish l had your strength of character, cause l could write
a book about the horrible state of our overpriced medical system. And
the consequences of the errors
are permanent. But alas l find it futile, if you complain they try to
kill you even faster! Not just MHO.
Kathy
dumb_fishie99@yahoo.com - 23 Mar 2008 21:53 GMT
>> I am back home.  More thankful of it this time than ever before in my life!!
>>
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>kill you even faster! Not just MHO.
>Kathy

If you complain they try to kill you even faster????  Boy that does
not make me feel very safe at all.
Billie - 24 Mar 2008 03:54 GMT
>> I am back home.  More thankful of it this time than ever before in my
>> life!!
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> kill you even faster! Not just MHO.
> Kathy

Kathy, you just put your 2 cents in here at any time.  Just let me make one
clarification, though, I was not in the hallway, first in an ER cubicle,
then into their Admin/Holding area, in a cubicle there, but never admitted
to my room on 3rd floor.  If you've not read my post
http://andlifegoesononedayonestepatatime.blogspot.com/2008/03/going-to-room.html
or  http://tinyurl.com/2ql2sx  that is my actual journaling of last
Wednesday as I lie there waiting to go to my room upstairs.

I am so sorry to hear about your husband.  Sometimes, unless you have some
kind of *insider* something or other, you really are at the mercy of those
in the upper echelon.  Jim has 49 years of hospital administration behind
him, and knows what to do.  *He* is what calmed me, and kept me on track,
and knows the best way to approach those involved..

Thank you once again, and I am glad to meet you.  *s*

Billie

Ragdoll Billie on the Road to Remission
http://andlifegoesononedayonestepatatime.blogspot.com/
http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/billiewages

Striving for a world without Myasthenia Gravis
http://www.myasthenia.org/amg_whatismg.cfm
kathy - 24 Mar 2008 05:10 GMT
> >> I am back home.  More thankful of it this time than ever before in my
> >> life!!
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>
> Striving for a world without Myasthenia Gravishttp://www.myasthenia.org/amg_whatismg.cfm

Don't mean to sound so cynical, it is just that l am still so broken
hearted. l feel so helpless and angry as well. What can l do? Steve
was only 52 years old and he is gone forever and there is nothing l
can do. l am glad you have Jim and l did reread your post and visit
your blog. l hope for only good things for you as well as "remission"
Truly,
Kathy
Cheri - 23 Mar 2008 20:32 GMT
Billie, Welcome home!!! :-)

Cheri

Billie wrote in message ...
>I am back home.  More thankful of it this time than ever before in my life!!
>
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>Striving for a world without Myasthenia Gravis
>http://www.myasthenia.org/amg_whatismg.cfm
Nicky - 23 Mar 2008 23:01 GMT
>I am back home.  More thankful of it this time than ever before in my life!!
>
>I have two posts up, one that is from some journal entry I wrote while
>waiting for a room, and then a very short one saying..............
>
>There was ***NEVER*** a room for me the whole time I was there!

Good grief - sorry you had to put up with this stupidity, Billie! Are
they seriously saying that it's a complete surprise to them when you
turn up each time?! Hope Jim's feeling better, not what either of you
need right now!

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6%  BMI 25
krom - 24 Mar 2008 07:20 GMT
Welcome back home!
Sorry the hosp was so bad :-(

<<hugs>>

KROM

>I am back home.  More thankful of it this time than ever before in my
>life!!
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> Striving for a world without Myasthenia Gravis
> http://www.myasthenia.org/amg_whatismg.cfm
Billie - 24 Mar 2008 13:22 GMT
> Welcome back home!
> Sorry the hosp was so bad :-(
>
> <<hugs>>
>
> KROM

Not the hospital - one of my doctors, and his actions behind my back.

Ragdoll Billie on the Road to Remission
http://andlifegoesononedayonestepatatime.blogspot.com/
http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/billiewages

Striving for a world without Myasthenia Gravis
http://www.myasthenia.org/amg_whatismg.cfm
Susan - 24 Mar 2008 16:32 GMT
> Not the hospital - one of my doctors, and his actions behind my back.
>
> Ragdoll Billie on the Road to Remission

Man, Billie, that's such a betrayal, when you're vulnerable and you
count on them to be on your side.

So sorry.  :-(

Susan
krom - 24 Mar 2008 19:33 GMT
Well she did say her "former" doc now...glad she got rid of him now before
he did major damage...

KROM

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>
> Susan
dumb_fishie99@yahoo.com - 24 Mar 2008 19:45 GMT
>Well she did say her "former" doc now...glad she got rid of him now before
>he did major damage...

We all need to start giving these bad doctors critiques:

http://ratemds.com/social/

http://www.physicianreports.com/

http://www.drscore.com/about/faqs.cfm

and etecetera

I am happy with my doctors, but I've done this with teachers
and car mechanics.

oh especially car mechanics
Billie - 24 Mar 2008 22:04 GMT
> x-no-archive: yes
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>
> Susan

Thanks, Susan.

One of the internal medicine doctors who looks after me while I am
inpatient.  We don't think my neuro knows yet what happened.  He will soon,
though.  Can you imagine a 65 y/o woman lying on a transfer stretcher for
six days in the er?  The pad on it was not more than 4" thick, and unless I
am a bad judge, absolutely no more than 6" thick, and hard plastic.
ohhhhh........ gotta rechannel these feelings into something productive!

Ragdoll Billie on the Road to Remission
http://andlifegoesononedayonestepatatime.blogspot.com/
http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/billiewages

Striving for a world without Myasthenia Gravis
http://www.myasthenia.org/amg_whatismg.cfm
Quentin Grady - 25 Mar 2008 00:50 GMT
>Thanks, Susan.
>
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>am a bad judge, absolutely no more than 6" thick, and hard plastic.
>ohhhhh........ gotta rechannel these feelings into something productive!

G'day G'day Billie,

 I've spent a few hours in ER recently and left at three in the
morning with all the ecg tags still attached.  My hand and arms are
bruised thanks to blood taking that didn't work quite right.  My
experience of hospitals is that ER is the worst part for patient care.
Once on gets past ER the care usually improves dramatically.

Can I imaging a 65 y/o woman lying a transfer stretcher for six days
in ER?  

Well I can visualize it all too well.  Rotten narrow uncomfortable
things they are.  

Can I imagine it for six days?  
I'm trying not to. One day was quite enough.

Best wishes,

>Ragdoll Billie on the Road to Remission
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Billie - 25 Mar 2008 09:06 GMT
>>Thanks, Susan.
>>
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>>
>>Ragdoll Billie on the Road to Remission

Hello, hello, hello Quentin!!!  I'm so sorry your body had to defy you like
it did, but only *since it did* I have really identified with you, and have
liked knowing I could write to you at any time, and you would understand
where I might be coming from.  I've not experienced what you have, nor you
mine, but I do believe we share a kindred spirit in the diseases we'd rather
not have, but are blessed with them nonetheless.

Do you remember some time back when we talked about "our purpose" and what
you said to me upon questioning my purpose?  I cannot remember verbatim, but
being there for people, or something.  Maybe you can say it better than I.
Anyway, you would not believe the ones that told me I was an inspiration to
them last week because of the way I coped with, and handled the mess that I
was caught in.  Had a 30 year veteran GOOD nurse who said she had only had
ONE other Myasthenia patient in all her years, and never anyone who
encountered what I did as I did, and she was so touched (she was almost in
tears) by the way I cope and handled everything.  There were others.  She
said she was going home a different person than when she came on duty that
morning, and she counted it a blessing to have been my nurse that day.  WOW!
One nurse came back on duty after being ill, and still didn't feel good.  My
laughter, and spirit and concern for her personal feelings later, lifted
her, helping her to feel better, and get through her 12 hours shift much
better, and have a better day (night shift).  This is what she said to me
after I had gotten so upset at the injustice done to me, and was offering
her consultation.  Linnie, an African American, hair my same new color, her
skin black as could be, mine as pale white as could be, hugged me more
tightly, or as tightly as any one of my own family members, pulling me close
to her, until my crying, sobbing has lessened, and I was once again making
them smile with my light-hearted comments about things - like the snot
getting mixed up with the oxygen, and when I blew my nose, which was I
blowing out?  lol

Thanks for all your comments here, Quentin.  I am enjoying your book, what
little I've been able to read of it so far (ptosis).  Liked the picture on
the back, and also Tricia's favorite picture of you.  Not sure which is my
favorite; maybe both in their own sort of way.  Hey, you in your recliner,
me in my hosp bed, in the same room, couldn't we cover a bunch of
discussions!  hahaha  I'm glad you are able to be up and about more now,
though.  Thrills, and warms my heart to hear you write about taking the dogs
for a walk, even a short one.

Thanks for understanding what six days in the ER on a gurney must have been
like!!

Only the very best wishes to you.

Billie
bh-wages@swbell.net

Ragdoll Billie on the Road to Remission
http://andlifegoesononedayonestepatatime.blogspot.com/
http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/billiewages

Striving for a world without Myasthenia Gravis
http://www.myasthenia.org/amg_whatismg.cfm
Quentin Grady - 26 Mar 2008 11:05 GMT
>Hello, hello, hello Quentin!!!  I'm so sorry your body had to defy you like
>it did, but only *since it did* I have really identified with you, and have
>liked knowing I could write to you at any time, and you would understand
>where I might be coming from.  I've not experienced what you have, nor you
>mine, but I do believe we share a kindred spirit in the diseases we'd rather
>not have, but are blessed with them nonetheless.

G'day G'day Billie,

 There are times when I can forget.  
And there are times when I can't.  Challenging times one could call
them.

>Do you remember some time back when we talked about "our purpose" and what
>you said to me upon questioning my purpose?  I cannot remember verbatim, but
>being there for people, or something.  Maybe you can say it better than I.

That would be hard to improve on.  It certainly describes my purpose
here  as I believe it does yours.

>Anyway, you would not believe the ones that told me I was an inspiration to
>them last week because of the way I coped with, and handled the mess that I
>was caught in.  Had a 30 year veteran GOOD nurse who said she had only had
>ONE other Myasthenia patient in all her years, and never anyone who
>encountered what I did as I did, and she was so touched (she was almost in
>tears) by the way I cope and handled everything.

That is an aspect of nurses that has often taken me by surprise.
Sometimes one encounters a nurse who at first displays a hard beaten
countenance.  Doesn't bother to give her name. Just does what she has
to do.  Then turns out to be a kind and feeling person.

> There were others.  She
>said she was going home a different person than when she came on duty that
>morning, and she counted it a blessing to have been my nurse that day.  WOW!

Now that is impressive.  Can't say that has ever happened to me.

>One nurse came back on duty after being ill, and still didn't feel good.  My
>laughter, and spirit and concern for her personal feelings later, lifted
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>getting mixed up with the oxygen, and when I blew my nose, which was I
>blowing out?  lol

That must have meant a lot to both of you.  Even though I'm about a
zillion miles away your description is so graphic I can just picture
it.

>Thanks for all your comments here, Quentin.  I am enjoying your book, what
>little I've been able to read of it so far (ptosis).  Liked the picture on
>the back, and also Tricia's favorite picture of you.  Not sure which is my
>favorite; maybe both in their own sort of way.

They are both snap shots capturing a moment in my life.  The one on
the book was taken a week or so before we went to the publishers.  The
other one is much older.

> Hey, you in your recliner,
>me in my hosp bed, in the same room, couldn't we cover a bunch of
>discussions!  hahaha  I'm glad you are able to be up and about more now,
>though.  Thrills, and warms my heart to hear you write about taking the dogs
>for a walk, even a short one.

I make the effort for their sake and for mine.

>Thanks for understanding what six days in the ER on a gurney must have been
>like!!
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Billie
>bh-wages@swbell.net

Best wishes to you,
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Trinkwasser - 24 Mar 2008 17:20 GMT
>> Welcome back home!
>> Sorry the hosp was so bad :-(
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Not the hospital - one of my doctors, and his actions behind my back.

How horrible.

Glad you survived
Billie - 24 Mar 2008 22:07 GMT
>>> Welcome back home!
>>> Sorry the hosp was so bad :-(
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Glad you survived

Thanks, Trinkswasser.  I survived, but am still battling the aftereffects of
the scalawags that got started again because of the changes that took place.

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Striving for a world without Myasthenia Gravis
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krom - 24 Mar 2008 19:32 GMT
yeah i meant the trip in general...least ya got us to vent to!
:-)

KROM

>> Welcome back home!
>> Sorry the hosp was so bad :-(
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> Striving for a world without Myasthenia Gravis
> http://www.myasthenia.org/amg_whatismg.cfm
Billie - 24 Mar 2008 21:57 GMT
> yeah i meant the trip in general...least ya got us to vent to!
> :-)
>
> KROM

Yeah, and I took good journaling at first for my blog when I got upstairs to
my room.  Then when I realized what was happening, I took them for
*evidence*.  I had prior communication with the CEO and the director of
Customer Service because of my emphasis on the hospital last month during
the blood drive.  We had contact and good communication with the House
Supervisor Saturday as we were leaving because we wanted it stipulated on my
discharge papers that I was leaving with the severe headaches.  Everyone was
afraid to breathe where I was concerned.  That was from Thursday night
onward.  Nobody knew what was going on, and was afraid to say anything at
all.  Jim is taking care of the admin/legal side of things, his 49 year
specialty.  The good thing about that is he knows what they will be looking
for from the hospital side.

I'm about to get ready to publish our Sunday outing, then I am going to
start writing about last week.  Been thinking about the best way to do it
over the weekend.  Plus, getting out of town yesterday - read about it *s* -
helped him and me both have a chance to break away, regroup, and now
CHARGE!!!!  (that's with the backup of a lollipop right now - lol ;) This
doctor changed my schedule that we had established to cut the headaches, and
I came home with the scalawags, and I cam home requiring the lollipops on
top of the percocet.  And we worked SO HARD to reach that point!  Well, best
to put these emotions to good use in the form or writing it all out and
publishing it.  I'm just glad I have you all here to "come home to" after
blogging.  Not much different than my family here, especially Jim.  Blogging
has engulfed both of us.  *s*  He is my official photographer now, and he is
on the lookout for photo ops, plus good stories.

BTW - his surgery is now April 30th, but I'll be reminding.  Plus, I am
going to the hospital for his surgery.  We had a talk.  *s*

Ain't life GRAND!!

Ragdoll Billie on the Road to Remission
http://andlifegoesononedayonestepatatime.blogspot.com/
http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/billiewages

Striving for a world without Myasthenia Gravis
http://www.myasthenia.org/amg_whatismg.cfm
krom - 25 Mar 2008 05:01 GMT
Im sorry about the headaches etc..but glad your focused on what to do
next..you and hubby are in my thoughts as always!

KROM

>> yeah i meant the trip in general...least ya got us to vent to!
>> :-)
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> Striving for a world without Myasthenia Gravis
> http://www.myasthenia.org/amg_whatismg.cfm
Nick Cramer - 25 Mar 2008 09:40 GMT
> > Welcome back home!
> > Sorry the hosp was so bad :-(
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Not the hospital - one of my doctors, and his actions behind my back.

Behind your back? I thought that was a guy joke about a prostate exam!

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