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Tell me how to supress my urge to snack
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Grandpa Chuck - 19 Mar 2008 18:07 GMT If you have found something(s) that work for you please tell me how to suppress my urge to snack. Over the past month or so I have nearly become addicted to Twizzlers. Even if I eat an entire plastic container of cut up fresh veggies Laurie has left for me before she goes to work, after I have eaten the last piece of fresh veggie or fruit I find I am still reaching for three or four Twizzlers. Four of them will last me about a half an hour. Then fifteen to thirty minutes later I will go to the package and get another three or four. Last evening I was having trouble staying awake until she got home from work at 12:10, so what did I do? You guessed it; I ate three more of those evil things.
I did ask Laurie to discourage me from buying any more of them. The packages I have been buying are four pound boxes.
Most evenings around ten I will get a carton of fruit on the bottom yogurt and sprinkle a tablespoon or so on top, along with a cup of coffee. Once that is gone - yep - I reach for the Twizzlers.
What amazes and discourages me is that for years I controlled my snacking very well and stuck to high protein, low carb things. If I wanted a sweet snack I would go to the refrigerator and get two or three chocolate Nestles Treasures. They contain 6 or 7 grams of carbs depending on the variety. I never felt guilty about that since it was my only snack between supper at 5:30 and a light, healthy bedtime snack after Laurie gets home from work. That seven hour stretch is too long to go without eating something.
My numbers have been about where most of us T2's would expect them to be. Early this winter I strained my back and was told by our doctor to not lift over twenty pounds and to not even walk on our treadmill until the back cramps went away. He told Laurie to not let me shovel the snow or run the snow blower, so I felt pretty damned useless as we were getting hit with snows at least twice a week. Now that it is finally warming up I want to get back to walking on a regular basis.
Well, I can see this is already longer than I prefer to post at one time, so I will close with a plea for helpful suggestions to suppress this high carb craving.
Thanks friends.
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Cheri - 19 Mar 2008 18:22 GMT Grandpa Chuck wrote in message ...
>What amazes and discourages me is that for years I controlled my >snacking very well and stuck to high protein, low carb things. If I Chuck, I think you have your answer in your post. It's JMO, but if you stop with the twizzlers and carby snacks, the cravings for them will go away, usually within a couple of weeks. Try to move toward lower carb snacks, including lower carb fruits and vegetables, and see if that doesn't help. Best to you and Laurie.
Cheri
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Grandpa Chuck - 19 Mar 2008 19:56 GMT >Grandpa Chuck wrote in message ... > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Cheri Thanks Cheri. It's good to hear from you. This dilemma reminds me somewhat of when I stopped smoking. It took some time to overcome the craving. In the case of cigarettes I followed my doctor's advise and decided when I would quit about a month ahead of time. When I did stop smoking I used the principles I had learned in AA to put off getting a pack of cigarettes for 15-20 minutes at a time and then I would do it again, and again, etc. until the craving stopped.
Of course nicotine being so terribly addictive there are still times the urge will surface even after over 25 years without smoking. If I say to Laurie, "Gee, I wish I had a cigarette." she says, "Oh, you do not - you can't even stand the smell of cigarette smoke anymore." She's right, but that nicotine addiction is still buried somewhere up there in little pea-brain. I do know that feeling will pass within only a few minutes.
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Fester - 19 Mar 2008 20:18 GMT >>Grandpa Chuck wrote in message ... >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > there in little pea-brain. I do know that feeling will pass within > only a few minutes. Hi Chuck,
I was just about to use the smoking analogy ... it's about what's comfortable and what's at arms reach. It's not so much that you like twizzlers, it's that you know they're there and that you like them. I like chocolate, always have and always will, I also love pork pie and given no other choices .. i'll always reach for comfort in whatever form it takes.
At work the last few months i've been eating tuna, some fresh salad, some french dressing, a handful of chips, coleslaw and whatever else is on the fresh veg counter. I'm at the point now where it doesn't matter what else is on the menu, i'll stick with the tuna because i know it's the best option for me. For dessert i have a yoghurt, prior to this i hated yoghurt - now i'm turning down other sweeter options because i actually like the yoghurt. I like the fact i can eat one and the carb in it won't do anything to my bg - it's the ultimate free snack and it feels like i'm beating the diabeasties and sticking two fingers up at it in the process - a sweet snack that requires no extra insulin! In the process i've dropped 2 inches off my waist, lost almost 2 stones in weight and I haven't had to sign up for gym membership.
The trick is to find something that performs the same function as the twizzler which sounds to me like, no pun intended, that you just want something to chew on. If it's a boredom thing, keep some fresh carrot handy, when you're bored you can slice a few sticks up .. do the washing and cleaning from the prep and then you have something to chew on for the rest of the day.
I feel quite strongly that carbs and boredom / itchy fingers go hand in hand - snacking is food for the mind and occupation for the fingers ( just like smoking), without getting into the whole religious debate - the devil makes work for idle hands :)
Gill Murray - 20 Mar 2008 00:11 GMT >>>Grandpa Chuck wrote in message ... >>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > like smoking), without getting into the whole religious debate - the devil > makes work for idle hands :) It is rather simple. Let there be no temptations in the house! I really do not buy any "junk".
Hubby doesn't have a particularly sweet tooth, but I make little minicups of sugarfree Jello, withe a sliced strawberry in it. I have peanut butter in the pantry and either Ryvita or Wasa bread with it. He "knows" that if he has more than one cracker it is not good. So he overloads a cracker with peanut butter.
The snack I DO buy for him are pistachio nuts. This is a man who LOVES nuts, popcorn etc; the stuff you put in your mouth by the handful. I buy him the pistachios with the shells on, so he has to exert a calorie or maybe 2, taking the shell off before he can eat it.
I have learned from DH that when he has no will-power, I just take away the temptation. I might add that 25 years ago he quit smoking...cold turkey. From three packs a day to NONE. Motivation is great ( we were dating then). LOL
Gillian
Grandpa Chuck - 20 Mar 2008 00:36 GMT >Hi Chuck, > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >like smoking), without getting into the whole religious debate - the devil >makes work for idle hands :) Thank you. I like what you said. Of course being I'm a Yankee I had to go to the dictionary to find out that a stone equals fourteen pounds. That's a pretty darned good loss. I like your ideas about what to eat in order to pull away from the high carb snacks.
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Tiger_Lily - 19 Mar 2008 20:42 GMT Chuck, do you chew gum?
have a glass of water when you get this craving and chew on a fresh piece of gum
(well, it's what i do :) ) kate
Grandpa Chuck - 20 Mar 2008 00:40 GMT >Chuck, do you chew gum? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >(well, it's what i do :) ) >kate No gum. I have 3 bridges on top and a partial denture on the bottom. Besides when I chew gum TMJ comes back. I don't need that pain.
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Trinkwasser - 19 Mar 2008 23:01 GMT >Grandpa Chuck wrote in message ... > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >carb snacks, including lower carb fruits and vegetables, and see if >that doesn't help. Best to you and Laurie. I agree. Carbs beget more carbs. I bought some things similar to Doritos a while back to use as a high carb pre-meal nibble in small quantities (they were on special offer) the bag is sat there CALLING to me
I find something with cheese, like an oatcake (not too many carbs) is non-moreish as snacks go. The small amount of fat is quite satiating. Nuts work similarly.
Oleg Lego - 20 Mar 2008 05:56 GMT >>Grandpa Chuck wrote in message ... >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >non-moreish as snacks go. The small amount of fat is quite satiating. >Nuts work similarly. Last night I sliced some feta cheese and some cucumber, then ate it as "sandwiches", with each slice of feta between two slices of cucumber.
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% - 19 Mar 2008 18:42 GMT > If you have found something(s) that work for you please tell me how to > suppress my urge to snack. Over the past month or so I have nearly [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Thanks friends. don't eat
Em - 19 Mar 2008 18:59 GMT > If you have found something(s) that work for you please tell me how to > suppress my urge to snack. Over the past month or so I have nearly [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Thanks friends. No suggestions, just a question...what's a Twizzler?
% - 19 Mar 2008 19:01 GMT >> If you have found something(s) that work for you please tell me how >> to suppress my urge to snack. Over the past month or so I have nearly [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > No suggestions, just a question...what's a Twizzler? a liquorice stick
John Inzer - 19 Mar 2008 19:03 GMT > No suggestions, just a question...what's a Twizzler? ============================ Twizzlers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twizzlers
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Grandpa Chuck - 19 Mar 2008 19:46 GMT >> If you have found something(s) that work for you please tell me how to >> suppress my urge to snack. Over the past month or so I have nearly [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > >No suggestions, just a question...what's a Twizzler? Twizzlers are strawberry flavored pieces of candy that resemble long licorice candies made of a very chewy candy.
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Em - 19 Mar 2008 21:59 GMT I love licorice (the real black stuff). I'd probably be tempted to do the same thing as you if I had a lot of it in the house. If I do want to occasionally indulge in something I know I shouldn't, I only buy enough for the one time. If I know it's in the house, I want it. If it isn't...well you know, out of sight, out of mind. Being diabetic can be a bummer at times but I'm getting better at it as time goes on.
I hope you find a satisfactory solution, Grandpa Chuck. Best wishes!
W. Baker - 19 Mar 2008 22:31 GMT : I love licorice (the real black stuff). I'd probably be tempted to do the : same thing as you if I had a lot of it in the house. If I do want to : occasionally indulge in something I know I shouldn't, I only buy enough for : the one time. If I know it's in the house, I want it. If it isn't...well : you know, out of sight, out of mind. Being diabetic can be a bummer at times : but I'm getting better at it as time goes on.
: I hope you find a satisfactory solution, Grandpa Chuck. Best wishes! Em,
If you ate that much licorice, you would be haivng a different set of roubles:-)
Wendy
Em - 19 Mar 2008 22:38 GMT > : I love licorice (the real black stuff). I'd probably be tempted to do > the [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Wendy LOL! I guess so! :o)
MI - 20 Mar 2008 22:58 GMT On 3/19/08 2:31 PM, in article frs0mm$gl8$1@reader2.panix.com, "W. Baker" <wbaker@panix.com> wrote:
> : I love licorice (the real black stuff). I'd probably be tempted to do the > : same thing as you if I had a lot of it in the house. If I do want to [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Wendy I thought of that too, but I think they use anise now instead of liquorice. If it is liquorice, I agree, Em could be risking a stroke.
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Em - 21 Mar 2008 13:03 GMT > On 3/19/08 2:31 PM, in article frs0mm$gl8$1@reader2.panix.com, "W. Baker" > <wbaker@panix.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > liquorice. > If it is liquorice, I agree, Em could be risking a stroke. I very rarely eat it and certainly not that much. I just meant to say that if anything that's not good for me is in the house, I do obsess about it. If it's not, I don't think about it. :o) Em
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 21 Mar 2008 15:12 GMT > >> : I love licorice (the real black stuff). I'd probably be tempted to do the > >> : same thing as you if I had a lot of it in the house. If I do want to [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > if anything that's not good for me is in the house, I do obsess about it. > If it's not, I don't think about it. :o) It is unlikely that if you had in the house something truly bad for you such as something that nauseated you, thereby killing your hunger, that you would obsess about it.
Our obsessions come from lies that have wounded the hearts of our souls.
In this particular instance, the lie would be that what is wanted (black licorice) is needed...
... that hunger is the same as starvation (ie "hunger is bad.").
This is simply not true and believing it to be true would be a delusion that does cause mental illness (obsessions).
Therefore, it remains saner and smarter to eat less, down to the right amount:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart
Here is a simple parable in hopes of promoting understanding:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable
You do not have much longer, dear neighbor Em.
May you wisely choose to repent by publicly declaring with your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
Mike Mordant - 21 Mar 2008 15:23 GMT On Mar 21, 9:12 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> > >> : I love licorice (the real black stuff). I'd probably be tempted to do the > > >> : same thing as you if I had a lot of it in the house. If I do want to [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com > A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow ;-) Convicted another soul and sent them to Hell eh? Does that make you feel gooooooood?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 21 Mar 2008 18:59 GMT satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > > > You do not have much longer, dear neighbor Em. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Prophecy
> > May you wisely choose to repent by publicly declaring with your mouth > > that "Jesus is LORD:" > > > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay > > ;-) Convicted another soul... No. I am not the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
>... and sent them to Hell eh? No. It is unforgiven sins that cause souls to end up in hell eternally separated from GOD:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
"The wages of sin is death." -- Holy Spirit.
Amen.
> Does that make you feel gooooooood? Whatever GOD desires is good.
Bottom line:
You remain the liar who is the source of all lies as described in the Bible:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Liarsatan
May we, who are Jesus' disciples, continue to rebuke you at each GOD- given opportunity as GOD desires:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
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May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21
A simple parable for the wise and discerning:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthy
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
Mystified One - 22 Mar 2008 00:16 GMT You still have no idea what you do when you flood this group with your constant barrage.
You are a TROLL. I have killfiled you many times and yet you turn around with a new address and show back up.
Get a life. Get some counseling. Get some fresh air. Nobody is listening because your message never changes, and you add nothing to this group.
Grandpa Chuck - 20 Mar 2008 00:53 GMT >I love licorice (the real black stuff). I'd probably be tempted to do the >same thing as you if I had a lot of it in the house. If I do want to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >I hope you find a satisfactory solution, Grandpa Chuck. Best wishes! Thanks Em. The first step was to admit I have a problem and it is time to fix it.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Mar 2008 19:03 GMT It remains smarter to choose to become convinced that hunger (wanting food/snacks) is wonderful:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart
Once we are convinced that hunger is wonderful, we no longer suffer from the irrational compulsion to eat more than we need:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthy
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com Brethren of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/ChristianBrethren
> If you have found something(s) that work for you please tell me how to > suppress my urge to snack. Over the past month or so I have nearly [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > the courage to change the one that I can > the wisdom to know that it is me Helen Back - 19 Mar 2008 20:31 GMT > If you have found something(s) that work for you please tell me how to > suppress my urge to snack. Over the past month or so I have nearly [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > Thanks friends. > -- It's only a suggestion because I go thro periods where I want to snack more times than others. But I find that two ryvita's (especially the pumpkin seed ones, YUM!), packed with thick layers of humous both filling and satisfying. Sometimes, I will slice up quarter banana, 4-5 grapes and a few raspberries to eat after and I feel great and full.
It's all about changing our habits - maybe my suggestion doesnt sound as appealing as your Twizzler addiction but overloading on carbs does make us hungrier!! Not knowing what they are, I'm assuming Twizzlers are carb orientated??? - I'm a Brit!! :P
Grandpa Chuck - 20 Mar 2008 00:38 GMT >It's only a suggestion because I go thro periods where I want to snack >more times than others. But I find that two ryvita's (especially the >pumpkin seed ones, YUM!), What the heck are ryvitas?
> packed with thick layers of humous both >filling and satisfying. Sometimes, I will slice up quarter banana, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >make us hungrier!! Not knowing what they are, I'm assuming Twizzlers >are carb orientated??? - I'm a Brit!! :P  Signature
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Oleg Lego - 20 Mar 2008 06:00 GMT >>It's only a suggestion because I go thro periods where I want to snack >>more times than others. But I find that two ryvita's (especially the >>pumpkin seed ones, YUM!), > >What the heck are ryvitas? A coarse rye crispbread. Ryvita is a brand name. Here's a picture.
http://www.internaturalfoods.com/Ryvita/Ryvita.html
>> packed with thick layers of humous both >>filling and satisfying. Sometimes, I will slice up quarter banana, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >>make us hungrier!! Not knowing what they are, I'm assuming Twizzlers >>are carb orientated??? - I'm a Brit!! :P
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Helen Back - 20 Mar 2008 08:26 GMT > On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:31:04 -0700 (PDT), Helen Back > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > What the heck are ryvitas? But, buuuuuuuuut, I thought Ryvita's were universal???!!! My friend in AZ eats them!
Ryvita's are rye crispbreads.
http://www.ryvita.com/uk/
krom - 19 Mar 2008 20:48 GMT I have learned the risk reward method to snakign..i love for example recess peanut butter cups but they are a big no no to my bg...so what i do is buy the sugar free ones...whatever "tol" they use i cant tolerate well..lol..so i know if i eat 2 im good..three im well..spending time in the small reading room unhappy.
so maybe get some sugar free ones or cherry gummy bears with the tol in it forcing u to behave and sorta weaning yerself off em..i dont crave peanut butter cup much now.
I also find nuts curb my cravigns for naughty things pretty good.
KROM
> If you have found something(s) that work for you please tell me how to > suppress my urge to snack. Over the past month or so I have nearly [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Thanks friends. Grandpa Chuck - 20 Mar 2008 00:43 GMT >I have learned the risk reward method to snakign..i love for example recess >peanut butter cups but they are a big no no to my bg...so what i do is buy [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >KROM Thanks KROM, but having tried sugar free candies and snacks I have to say, "Thanks, but no thanks." I can't stand the darned things.
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Oleg Lego - 20 Mar 2008 06:01 GMT >>I have learned the risk reward method to snakign..i love for example recess >>peanut butter cups but they are a big no no to my bg...so what i do is buy [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >Thanks KROM, but having tried sugar free candies and snacks I have to >say, "Thanks, but no thanks." I can't stand the darned things. Cheese, jerky, nuts. All good for not inviting carb cravings.
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Uncle Enrico - 19 Mar 2008 21:07 GMT First: Carb consumption leads to carb craving. There's a reason these are the big profit fun foods.l
2nd: find a tea you really like and drink it instead of snacking. I like green tea with fresh lime slices, cinnamon and ground cloves plus sweetener.
3rd: Set goals for no eating after a certain time in the evening.
4th: post notes on fridge.
Good luck.
Susan - 19 Mar 2008 21:09 GMT > First: Carb consumption leads to carb craving. There's a reason these > are the big profit fun foods.l [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Good luck. 5th: study after study proves that protein suppresses hunger more than any other food, while carbs trigger overeating and larger later meals.
Susan
Uncle Enrico - 19 Mar 2008 23:58 GMT > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Susan The cool thing about protein is that it contributes to your blood sugar, but slowly and over a longer period--a kind of time-release food.
% - 20 Mar 2008 02:13 GMT i still say don't eat will work best
>> x-no-archive: yes >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > sugar, but slowly and over a longer period--a kind of time-release > food. Uncle Enciro - 20 Mar 2008 14:13 GMT > i still say don't eat will work best You make a good point.
In an ideal world, there would be no need to eat.
With eating comes, shopping, cooking, cleaning, indigestion, constipation, the need for toilets, plungers, Tidy Bowl, diapers and a whole host of irritations that are too impolite for a public discussion.
Breathing is enough of a hassle.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Mar 2008 21:44 GMT friend Uncle Enrico wrote:
> > i still say don't eat will work best > > You make a good point. > > In an ideal world, there would be no need to eat. In this real world, hunger (urge to snack) is an indication of wanting to eat rather than of needing to eat.
It is satan's lie that "hunger is bad" (ie hunger is the same as starvation) that causes confusion leading to the irrational compulsion to overeat:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/145a6acb7d795db3?
May you and other dear friends, brethren, and neighbors have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21
A simple parable for the wise and discerning:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthy
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
Grandpa Chuck - 20 Mar 2008 00:46 GMT >x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Susan We have some summer sausage in the refrigerator. Maybe if I cut a few slices of that to have with my raw veggies will be a good combination.
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Grandpa Chuck - 20 Mar 2008 00:44 GMT >First: Carb consumption leads to carb craving. There's a reason these >are the big profit fun foods.l [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Good luck. Thanks. Drink tea whenever I want candy? I can't help but wonder just how many times I would be up to go pee in the night. LOL
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Uncle Enciro - 20 Mar 2008 14:19 GMT >> First: Carb consumption leads to carb craving. There's a reason these >> are the big profit fun foods.l [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Thanks. Drink tea whenever I want candy? I can't help but wonder just > how many times I would be up to go pee in the night. LOL I have to stop drinking tea around two hours before going to sleep. I also set an alarm to go off half-way through the sleep for that RR run.
Julie Bove - 20 Mar 2008 16:32 GMT >>> First: Carb consumption leads to carb craving. There's a reason these >>> are the big profit fun foods.l [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > I have to stop drinking tea around two hours before going to sleep. I also > set an alarm to go off half-way through the sleep for that RR run. I used to drink a huge pump pot full of tea before bed. Didn't make me have to get up at night. Managed to drop the pot and break it and haven't seen one since.
Nick Cramer - 21 Mar 2008 04:29 GMT > "Uncle Enciro" <Uncle@nospam.com> wrote in message > >> On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:07:23 GMT, Uncle Enrico <Uncle@nospam.com> > >> [ . . . ] > I used to drink a huge pump pot full of tea before bed. Didn't make me > have to get up at night. Managed to drop the pot and break it and > haven't seen one since. Amazon http://tinyurl.com/2ngqsg
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Paul L - 19 Mar 2008 21:30 GMT > If you have found something(s) that work for you please tell me how to > suppress my urge to snack. Over the past month or so I have nearly [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Thanks friends. Hi Chuck ... I've read all the responses.
I too will go with the smoking analogy. What was the first step to putting your cigarette addiction behind you ? You stopped buying cigarettes.
Take it from there and good luck :-)
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Grandpa Chuck - 20 Mar 2008 00:49 GMT >Hi Chuck ... I've read all the responses. > >I too will go with the smoking analogy. What was the >first step to putting your cigarette addiction behind you ? Making up my mind to quit for a couple of weeks first in order to psyche myself up for it, following my doctor's advise.
>You stopped buying cigarettes. Actually I didn't stop buying them until the very end. I have already decided to stop buying the Twizzler.
>Take it from there and good luck :-) Thanks Paul.
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MI - 19 Mar 2008 22:00 GMT On 3/19/08 10:07 AM, in article vrg2u391gnub8va4g98n4fk1j18mfhus8r@4ax.com,
> If you have found something(s) that work for you please tell me how to > suppress my urge to snack. <Snipped for brevity.>
Chuck you mention that you have been unable to exercise because of a back injury. One of the many reasons people crave food is lack of something to do. Your routine has been upset because of your back leaving you with idle hands. I know. Been there done that. Try to find something to keep your hands and mind busy until you resume your walking routine. No more Twizzlers! Tell Laurie not to buy them. I know I'm very unkind. Maybe she can hide your snacks like the Easter bunny and make you look for them. Do crossword puzzles, sudoku, or read a book. Take up knitting.
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Grandpa Chuck - 20 Mar 2008 00:52 GMT >On 3/19/08 10:07 AM, in article vrg2u391gnub8va4g98n4fk1j18mfhus8r@4ax.com, > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Good luck. You have my sympathy. I had to laugh at your idea of having Laurie hide the snacks. I am a recovering alcoholic with nearly 29 years sober and I can tell you trying to hide something such as the candy won't work. I will find it almost as easily as a bloodhound on track.
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Helen Back - 20 Mar 2008 08:31 GMT > >On 3/19/08 10:07 AM, in article vrg2u391gnub8va4g98n4fk1j18mfhu...@4ax.com, > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > almost as easily as a bloodhound on track. > -- Considering your *addictive* history and fantastic "on the wagon" results - I think your decision, once you make it, to give up bingeing on Twizzlers will be solved.
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W. Baker - 19 Mar 2008 22:19 GMT : If you have found something(s) that work for you please tell me how to : suppress my urge to snack. Over the past month or so I have nearly [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] : work at 12:10, so what did I do? You guessed it; I ate three more of : those evil things.
: I did ask Laurie to discourage me from buying any more of them. The : packages I have been buying are four pound boxes.
: Most evenings around ten I will get a carton of fruit on the bottom : yogurt and sprinkle a tablespoon or so on top, along with a cup of : coffee. Once that is gone - yep - I reach for the Twizzlers.
: What amazes and discourages me is that for years I controlled my : snacking very well and stuck to high protein, low carb things. If I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] : snack after Laurie gets home from work. That seven hour stretch is too : long to go without eating something.
: My numbers have been about where most of us T2's would expect them to : be. Early this winter I strained my back and was told by our doctor to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : were getting hit with snows at least twice a week. Now that it is : finally warming up I want to get back to walking on a regular basis.
: Well, I can see this is already longer than I prefer to post at one : time, so I will close with a plea for helpful suggestions to suppress : this high carb craving.
: Thanks friends.
: Grandpa Chuck First of all, boredon? Can't go for a walk, etc so just kind of hang around and think of eating crap! In addition, if you are eating mor carbs than usual, it can get to startd yearning for more.
Remind yourself tht you have bee a sober, recovering alcoholic for more than 20 years and if you can do THAT, you can stop eating twizzlers. First, stop buying them, particularly in thos huge boxes!! Then think-one day at a time:-) I know you can do it Chuck!
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Evelyn Ruut - 19 Mar 2008 23:17 GMT > If you have found something(s) that work for you please tell me how to > suppress my urge to snack. Over the past month or so I have nearly [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Thanks friends. Dear Chuck,
Just remember that the more carby snacks you eat, the more you will crave. Absolutely DO NOT BUY things you shouldn't have. Lay in some allowable goodies, preferably low carb ones. I know it is horrible to crave something and then feel guilty afterwards, but you have to plan to succeed at beating that carb craving.
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Grandpa Chuck - 20 Mar 2008 00:57 GMT >Dear Chuck, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >something and then feel guilty afterwards, but you have to plan to succeed >at beating that carb craving. Thanks Evelyn. Laurie and I have already deleted Twizzlers and other such foods from our grocery list. Now all I need do is leave the stuff alone a day at a time.
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Evelyn Ruut - 20 Mar 2008 01:53 GMT >>Dear Chuck, >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > such foods from our grocery list. Now all I need do is leave the stuff > alone a day at a time. Chuck, you can also get some rye crackers, like Wasa and put peanut butter on them. Also get some sopressata sausage or pepperoni, which is sort of chewy. Takes time to eat it, so it satisfies more. Fruit is good too. Every now and then I get an urge to chew on a dried apricot or something like that. It's sweet, but not as bad as candy. Also some nuts. I like cashews, hubby likes peanuts. A really special treat is macadamia nuts. Those things are unbelievably good. Of course you already know about the vegetables that are good to pick on.
I personally like to make myself a cup of some really delicious flavored tea. A favorite is Stash Chai. I put milk and splenda in it, and it is like having a decadent dessert. It is all spicy and cinnamon tasting. You sip it slowly and savor it. By the time you are done you feel as though you have really had something delicious and really the calories are negligible. Look into some of the flavored teas.
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Keep all sorts of fresh veggies on hand, and get yourself a wok and make the effort to stir fry some of he veggie snacks.
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Grandpa Chuck - 20 Mar 2008 00:58 GMT >Take all the candy out of he house, if it her candy then simply lock >it up and let her take the key. Laurie keeps her candy in her lunch bag. She knows I don't get in there.
>Keep all sorts of fresh veggies on hand, and get yourself a wok and >make the effort to stir fry some of he veggie snacks.  Signature
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Grandpa Chuck - 20 Mar 2008 01:00 GMT Thank you friends for all you helpful suggestions. I have taken first step by admitting I have a problem and sharing it with you all.
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Quentin Grady - 20 Mar 2008 06:32 GMT >Thank you friends for all you helpful suggestions. >I have taken first step by admitting I have a problem and sharing it >with you all. G'day G'day Enrico,
Well done.
Taking responsibility for the situation by first admitting you had a problem and sharing it with others is a major step.
Some people have taken that concept one step further. When they've decided to make a change such as giving up smoking they have announced the fact by writing letters to ALL their friends telling them what they intended to do. This ensured they had dozens of people who'd ask them how they were going and so stay on track.
You might like to add that idea to the others you've received.
Several suggestions have included ways to slow down nibbling eg having to shell nuts. This tends to reduce the amount that one eats. Maybe in time it would discourage you from actually starting.
Other suggestions have included changing what you have around to nibble. Some have included foods with a high fibre and water content eg rye crackers, carrots. Some have included foods with a high protein content such as tuna or cheese. These all make sense where satiety is concerned. Satiety is the tendency not to go back and have more in half an hour. The three major factors helping satiety are firstly water in food, then protein and fibre equally. These all affect the tendency to repeat nibbling.
The question is what to do to stop nibbling in the first place. My guess is you've already gained some ideas on that score from other posters. Its largely a question of activity, perhaps mental activity eg sudoku or physical acclivity perhaps squeezing a hand grip that strengthens the muscles in the fingers and palm.
You'll come up with examples that better fit your situation than I can.
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sphynx.red@gmail.com - 21 Mar 2008 22:19 GMT Grandpa Chuck,
May I suggest another tool for combating cravings?
Use your glucose meter. I sometimes break down and eat something way sugary. Twizzlers aren't a problem for me, but chocolate...
If I measure my blood glucose some 40 min after I've indulged, and I see the scary number, that usually motivates me to go take a vigorous walk (which knocks my number down.) And it also makes it easier for me to resist, the next night. If I DON'T measure my blood, it's far easier for me to ignore the lapse.
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Trinkwasser - 22 Mar 2008 19:56 GMT >Thank you friends for all you helpful suggestions. >I have taken first step by admitting I have a problem and sharing it >with you all. What a brilliant thread, anyone who hasn't learned something new to try here obviously never read it
jacquie - 20 Mar 2008 06:04 GMT Have you tried going off of carbs for a couple of days and just eat protein..I have found when I do that it seems to take my cravings away...while you are doing that through the twizzlers away:)...Good Luck Chuck .. If you have found something(s) that work for you please tell me how to suppress my urge to snack. Over the past month or so I have nearly become addicted to Twizzlers. Even if I eat an entire plastic container of cut up fresh veggies Laurie has left for me before she goes to work, after I have eaten the last piece of fresh veggie or fruit I find I am still reaching for three or four Twizzlers. Four of them will last me about a half an hour. Then fifteen to thirty minutes later I will go to the package and get another three or four. Last evening I was having trouble staying awake until she got home from work at 12:10, so what did I do? You guessed it; I ate three more of those evil things.
I did ask Laurie to discourage me from buying any more of them. The packages I have been buying are four pound boxes.
Most evenings around ten I will get a carton of fruit on the bottom yogurt and sprinkle a tablespoon or so on top, along with a cup of coffee. Once that is gone - yep - I reach for the Twizzlers.
What amazes and discourages me is that for years I controlled my snacking very well and stuck to high protein, low carb things. If I wanted a sweet snack I would go to the refrigerator and get two or three chocolate Nestles Treasures. They contain 6 or 7 grams of carbs depending on the variety. I never felt guilty about that since it was my only snack between supper at 5:30 and a light, healthy bedtime snack after Laurie gets home from work. That seven hour stretch is too long to go without eating something.
My numbers have been about where most of us T2's would expect them to be. Early this winter I strained my back and was told by our doctor to not lift over twenty pounds and to not even walk on our treadmill until the back cramps went away. He told Laurie to not let me shovel the snow or run the snow blower, so I felt pretty damned useless as we were getting hit with snows at least twice a week. Now that it is finally warming up I want to get back to walking on a regular basis.
Well, I can see this is already longer than I prefer to post at one time, so I will close with a plea for helpful suggestions to suppress this high carb craving.
Thanks friends.
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Andy - 20 Mar 2008 17:18 GMT Grandpa Chuck said...
> If you have found something(s) that work for you please tell me how to > suppress my urge to snack. Over the past month or so I have nearly > become addicted to Twizzlers. Grandpa,
I had a two roll a day SweetTart habit! Now they only come in handy to raise my BGs if I go hypo. So I HAD to kick the habit.
I used to also have a red twizzlers habit. During Halloween that's the candy I gave out. That and Starburst fruit chews.
Twizzlers are delicious! The day after Halloween, I take all the remaining candy down to the fire company for them to bribe the local kids hanging around to shine up the trucks, sweep up, etc.
Good luck! And stop wandering the candy aisles!!! ;)
Maybe switch to soft pretzels and mustard? They're filling with a glass of water and also highly addictive! High carb count though. They ARE more like a treat than carrot and celery sticks.
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:) Oleg Lego - 20 Mar 2008 22:35 GMT >Grandpa Chuck said... > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >water and also highly addictive! High carb count though. They ARE more like >a treat than carrot and celery sticks. I find celery and cheese or celery and peanut butter quite a treat. Of course, to fill the celery groove with cheese, I have to use something like "Cheez Whiz", so I really should call it celery with "cheese".
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Andy - 20 Mar 2008 23:05 GMT Oleg Lego said...
> I find celery and cheese or celery and peanut butter quite a treat. Of > course, to fill the celery groove with cheese, I have to use something > like "Cheez Whiz", so I really should call it celery with "cheese". Oleg Lego,
I like Smart Balance Omega-3 peanut butter on occasion. It's very wet! It separates in the jar but it stirs up easily and since it doesn't need refrigeration it doesn't harden into rock.
I'm very big on Trader Joe's garlic hummus dip for it's low calorie, no sat. fat, no cholesterol content and nice flavor. I also use it as a mayo substitute.
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:) Oleg Lego - 21 Mar 2008 05:27 GMT >Oleg Lego said... > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >separates in the jar but it stirs up easily and since it doesn't need >refrigeration it doesn't harden into rock. Just regular old peanut butter for me. The stuff that separates is such a bother. I never refrigerate PB, and never have a problem with it getting hard. I doubt I'v ever had a jar of it long enough to do that. We only get the small 1Kg jars.
>I'm very big on Trader Joe's garlic hummus dip for it's low calorie, no >sat. fat, no cholesterol content and nice flavor. I also use it as a mayo >substitute.
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W. Baker - 21 Mar 2008 02:07 GMT : >Grandpa Chuck said... : > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] : >water and also highly addictive! High carb count though. They ARE more like : >a treat than carrot and celery sticks.
: I find celery and cheese or celery and peanut butter quite a treat. Of : course, to fill the celery groove with cheese, I have to use something : like "Cheez Whiz", so I really should call it celery with "cheese". Larry, try some o fthe cheddar with port wine spread. Much tastier tnan cheezewhiz
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Oleg Lego - 21 Mar 2008 05:25 GMT >: >Grandpa Chuck said... >: > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >Larry, try some o fthe cheddar with port wine spread. Much tastier tnan >cheezewhiz Don't know as I've ever run across that. I'll look for something similar.
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Michelle C. - 20 Mar 2008 18:32 GMT > If you have found something(s) that work for you please tell me how to > suppress my urge to snack. Over the past month or so I have nearly [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > the courage to change the one that I can > the wisdom to know that it is me Hi Chuck,
Haven't read all the responses yet--although the one's I have read are spot on. The only other thing I'd like to add is that some studies show that soup is particularly satisfying. People who eat soup before the entree eat less of the entree and feel fuller longer. Maybe you can use this knowledge in some way to help you avoid the Twizzlers.
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