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% - 07 Mar 2008 00:35 GMT
bugs me
BillW50 - 07 Mar 2008 00:54 GMT
> bugs me

Of course! Worse many have cured it as well. But we will never be cured
because there is just too much money being made to keep us on our
medication. I have believed that greed does have its positive effects.
As I am one of the least greedy persons I know. But I am now thinking I
was wrong. :-(

Watch even this will be swept under the rug!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7267586.stm

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Lerp - 07 Mar 2008 02:19 GMT
> Innews:l50Aj.85660$C61.45445@edtnps89,
> % typed on Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:35:29 GMT:
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> A1c 08/2007 6.8
> A1c 02/2008 6.3

I asked the ADA why they won't comment on the mice story you reference
here. They gave me a big spin and that was the end of it. I personally
believe the ADA resists the cure too. They want to help us CONTROL not
eliminate diabetes.
Jim Chinnis - 07 Mar 2008 02:30 GMT
"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in part:

>But we will never be cured
>because there is just too much money being made to keep us on our
>medication.

Keep up the carbs!
--
Jim Chinnis   Warrenton, Virginia, USA
Uncle Enrico - 07 Mar 2008 15:20 GMT
>> bugs me
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7267586.stm

There will many years of testing between cures for mice and cures for
humans.

If I were paranoid from too many movie plots about evil corporations and
 secret government conspiracies, I might conclude that mice were in
control of the drug companies because they get all the good cures first.
BillW50 - 07 Mar 2008 19:57 GMT
>>> bugs me
>>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> in control of the drug companies because they get all the good cures
> first.

People like you make me sick from your disinformation! I personally
believe people like you should be charged for harming mankind and thrown
in jail! Here we live in America where sick cows who can't even walk
that are dragged to the slaughterhouse for our consumption. Where we
force flu shots on our children which causes high rates of Autism (CDC
admits to a 10 times increase). And where the media has admitted to
being paid to lie to the public in court. More and more people are
waking up and doing their own research and not buying the disinformation
they are spoon fed daily. So what do you think mankind should do with
liars like you?

“Court Ruled That Media Can Legally Lie” by Liane Casten
http://www.projectcensored.org/publications/2005/11.html

CDC Study Of Mercury
http://www.rense.com/general45/CDCstudyofmercury.htm

"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." ~
Albert Einstein

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Uncle Enrico - 08 Mar 2008 00:05 GMT
> More and more people are
> waking up and doing their own research and not buying the disinformation
> they are spoon fed daily. So what do you think mankind should do with
> liars like you?

Rounded up, herded onto railroad cars and sent to gas chambers?

Oy!
BillW50 - 08 Mar 2008 02:57 GMT
>> More and more people are
>> waking up and doing their own research and not buying the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Oy!

Too much of a coward to deal with everything I see. Please don't play
stupid with me because I am not buying it. Once again (which you clipped
out)...

> People like you make me sick from your disinformation! I personally
> believe people like you should be charged for harming mankind and
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." ~
> Albert Einstein

Please tell me why liars like you should live and be allowed to screw up
millions of lives! I really would love to hear your reason for this BS.
It is no big secret that America got a lot of the Nazi scientists. Sadly
they still and continue to influence most of our science. So please in
your defense, give us a reason for your BS and answer the damn facts!

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Uncle Enrico - 08 Mar 2008 14:17 GMT
>>> More and more people are
>>> waking up and doing their own research and not buying the
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> they still and continue to influence most of our science. So please in
> your defense, give us a reason for your BS and answer the damn facts!

Bill...your house is full of stuff made by evil corporations. You're up
to your a.s in mercury and you're surrounded by liars, thieves and
Republicans.  Communism is in retreat and Hugo Chavez won't answer your
calls. When you're having a bad day like this, what is an aging
revoutionary to do? If you're physically able, go outside and watch the
toxic clouds make lovely patterns in the globally warmed ozone sky and
smoke a little homegrown. Give the finger to George Bush and then go to
bed and start anew in the morning when you feel fresh and ready to start
WWIII.
BillW50 - 09 Mar 2008 14:37 GMT
>>>> More and more people are
>>>> waking up and doing their own research and not buying the
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
> then go to bed and start anew in the morning when you feel fresh and
> ready to start WWIII.

You sir are a fricken LIAR! You are filled with nothing but
disinformation and you should be charged with spreading lies and
misleading people. What I say can be verified and I list references. You
are nothing but a liar and you should be charged and sent to jail for
your crimes. You are no better than a con artist, scammer, crook, and
very dishonest.

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Uncle Enrico - 09 Mar 2008 16:52 GMT
>> Bill...your house is full of stuff made by evil corporations. You're
>> up to your a.s in mercury and you're surrounded by liars, thieves and
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> your crimes. You are no better than a con artist, scammer, crook, and
> very dishonest.

Feeling fresh and frisky this morning?
BillW50 - 09 Mar 2008 19:33 GMT
>>> Bill...your house is full of stuff made by evil corporations. You're
>>> up to your a.s in mercury and you're surrounded by liars, thieves
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Feeling fresh and frisky this morning?

Well you are off to a good start this morning, not even denying about
the part that you are lying. Remember this!

"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." ~
Albert Einstein

Please show us some of your intelligence by showing some of the evidence
of your claims. Although I am betting that you will only to continue by
making up bull and showing how much misinformation to can spoon out. You
obviously follow this rule:

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

I, on the other hand follow a more practical approach.

"The suppression of uncomfortable ideas may be common in religion and
politics, but it is not the path to knowledge; it has no place in the
endeavor of science." -- Carl Sagan

"The important thing is not to stop questioning." -- Albert Einstein

"He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my
contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the
spinal cord would suffice." -- Albert Einstein

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second,
it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being
self-evident." -- Arthur Schopenhauer -- German philosopher (1788 -
1860)

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Priscilla Ballou - 10 Mar 2008 01:48 GMT
Please stop feeding the troll.

Thank you.

Priscilla
% - 10 Mar 2008 02:55 GMT
> Please stop feeding the troll.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Priscilla

yea , knock it off you guys
BillW50 - 10 Mar 2008 10:32 GMT
> Please stop feeding the troll.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Priscilla

Why do you have to judge a book by the cover and judge people like that?
Don't you understand that there are people out there way ahead of their
time? I am dead serious! And I don't think others who don't understand
advanced people and to label them as trolls. As that isn't very smart at
all. And people here *all* seem to attack the messenger, but not the
message.

And diabetes is very serious. And there are so much misinformation being
taught about it which isn't true at all. And yes, diabetes can be cured
and it is being cured. Adult stem cells is one example. But you will
never see it here in the US. Ever wonder why that is?

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre
minds." -- Albert Einstein

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second,
it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. --  
Arthur Schopenhauer -- German philosopher (1788 - 1860)

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BillW50 - 10 Mar 2008 13:49 GMT
> Please stop feeding the troll.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Priscilla

Do you even know what the term troll means? This will give you an idea:

http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/537805

Many of you fall under the definition of a troll far more than I do.

What things upsets me are like how complacent our society is. People
believe and trust say doctors and medical professions more than they
ever did. But I have found they are just as misguided and complacent as
the rest of society is. Thus more dangerous as ever. For example, 50
years ago, stuff like this would have *never* happened:

1) US Orders Massive Recall Of Beef
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7249911.stm

2) Biggest US Malpractice Scandal
http://www.dawn.com/2008/03/10/top8.htm

And if something like this did happen 50 years ago (very unlikely),
there would have steps taken that things like this would never happen
again.

Sadly today, things like this does happen and will continue to happen.
And the actions of a few, puts millions of people at risk. And people
are so complacent and just accept this risk as a part of life. Sadly if
this complacency continues, I can easily see over 90% of the population
being wiped out from the actions of the few.

And surprisingly, a few here are also part of the problem and are
endangering many millions of people by labeling those who are seeking
the truth as trolls. Give me a break! If you disagree with the message,
attack the message and not the messenger. Otherwise you are harming
mankind rather than helping.

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% - 10 Mar 2008 14:10 GMT
>> Please stop feeding the troll.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
> message, attack the message and not the messenger. Otherwise you are
> harming mankind rather than helping.

well i agree with you and often receive the same reception here ,
i think you're overboarding a little bit when you ,
hold a newsgroup in usenet as responsible for the destruction of mankind
BillW50 - 10 Mar 2008 15:03 GMT
>>> Please stop feeding the troll.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
>
> well i agree with you and often receive the same reception here ,

Sadly throughout history, intelligent people often receive such
treatment. Probably do in part, people fear what they don't understand.

> i think you're overboarding a little bit when you ,
> hold a newsgroup in usenet as responsible for the destruction of
> mankind

If this is what I have done, I apologize. That wasn't my intent. :-(

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Uncle Enrico - 10 Mar 2008 17:59 GMT
> Please stop feeding the troll.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Priscilla

Priscilla,
He irks me. Also, I get amusement from the exchange and his responses
keep him off the street which protects citizens at-large.

If you lived next door to this chap, you'd prefer that he be busy with
his keyboard instead of prowling around your neighborhood.
Uncle Enrico - 10 Mar 2008 16:07 GMT
>> Please stop feeding the troll.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> If you lived next door to this chap, you'd prefer that he be busy with
> his keyboard instead of prowling around your neighborhood.

To clarify, I'm referring to BW not %.

%'s stuff is interesting, despite what his critics might say.
% - 10 Mar 2008 19:11 GMT
>>> Please stop feeding the troll.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> %'s stuff is interesting, despite what his critics might say.

its cause i know the secret  but i'm glad you clarified ,
i would've felt way to welcome if i thought you meant me
BillW50 - 11 Mar 2008 13:19 GMT
>> Please stop feeding the troll.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Priscilla,
> He irks me.

Why? Because the truth upsets you?

> Also, I get amusement from the exchange and his responses
> keep him off the street which protects citizens at-large.

Harassing others isn't something I would be proud of. Some people would
call you a troll. As that is what trolls do. Some would also call you a
terrorist. As that is what terrorists do.

> If you lived next door to this chap, you'd prefer that he be busy with
> his keyboard instead of prowling around your neighborhood.

In my neighborhood, neighbors are very good people. We still don't lock
our doors and we still leave our keys in our unlocked vehicles. And we
don't tell lies just to impress others. And I wouldn't want it any other
way. Too bad there isn't very many places like this anymore.

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Julie Bove - 11 Mar 2008 16:26 GMT
>>> Please stop feeding the troll.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> call you a troll. As that is what trolls do. Some would also call you a
> terrorist. As that is what terrorists do.

Priscilla a troll?  I don't think so.  Ha!

>> If you lived next door to this chap, you'd prefer that he be busy with
>> his keyboard instead of prowling around your neighborhood.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> don't tell lies just to impress others. And I wouldn't want it any other
> way. Too bad there isn't very many places like this anymore.

You just wait. Used to be like that here too.
BillW50 - 11 Mar 2008 17:07 GMT
>>>> Please stop feeding the troll.
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Priscilla a troll?  I don't think so.  Ha!

No Julie, I was talking about Uncle Enrico.

>>> If you lived next door to this chap, you'd prefer that he be busy
>>> with his keyboard instead of prowling around your neighborhood.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> You just wait. Used to be like that here too.

I hope not. Luckily here it is still rural enough where everybody knows
everything going on here anyway.

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% - 12 Mar 2008 03:30 GMT
>>>>> Please stop feeding the troll.
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> I hope not. Luckily here it is still rural enough where everybody
> knows everything going on here anyway.

my town has 2000 people and one traffic light
BillW50 - 12 Mar 2008 04:38 GMT
>>>>>> Please stop feeding the troll.
>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> my town has 2000 people and one traffic light

My town has 1999 and has no traffic lights yet (and I was born in
Chicago LOL). Although it has been 1999 for the past 30 years. The rumor
is that once a baby is born, a father moves out. I don't see such
evidence, but it is still funny! And it does explain why the population
never seems to change. LOL

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% - 12 Mar 2008 04:45 GMT
>>>>>>> Please stop feeding the troll.
>>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
> such evidence, but it is still funny! And it does explain why the
> population never seems to change. LOL

its the same here , my town is 90 % single moms
BillW50 - 12 Mar 2008 05:35 GMT
>>>>>>>> Please stop feeding the troll.
>>>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
>
> its the same here , my town is 90 % single moms

Oh? LOL Once we break 2000, maybe we will finally get that traffic
light. After all, rush hour around here means seeing more than three
cars in a row. Once I had seen seven cars in a row and that was a
fricken traffic jam! LOL

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% - 12 Mar 2008 15:31 GMT
>>>>>>>>> Please stop feeding the troll.
>>>>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
> cars in a row. Once I had seen seven cars in a row and that was a
> fricken traffic jam! LOL

once in 10 years while riding my bike ,
i had to wait for a car to pass before i could cross the highway
Uncle Enrico - 13 Mar 2008 04:18 GMT
>> Priscilla a troll?  I don't think so.  Ha!
>
> No Julie, I was talking about Uncle Enrico.

Indeed he was. Thanks for the mention, BW.
% - 13 Mar 2008 06:17 GMT
>>> Priscilla a troll?  I don't think so.  Ha!
>>
>> No Julie, I was talking about Uncle Enrico.
>
> Indeed he was. Thanks for the mention, BW.

hi
Uncle Enrico - 08 Mar 2008 14:36 GMT
> People like you make me sick from your disinformation! I personally
> believe people like you should be charged for harming mankind and thrown
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> CDC Study Of Mercury
> http://www.rense.com/general45/CDCstudyofmercury.htm

Stop watching TV news--it's full of half truths and misinformation, it's
addictive and designed to scare you and make you angry. People are
getting addicted to the adrenaline from the anger and compulsively
watching more and more of it. The anger contributes to inflammation and
all sorts of problems. Listen to music or watch movies from the thirties
and forties. Relax. You and I are old enough to let younger and
healthier people deal with this crap, most of which we can't do anything
about anyway. Eat right, sleep well and get exercise if you can.
Trinkwasser - 09 Mar 2008 19:34 GMT
>> People like you make me sick from your disinformation! I personally
>> believe people like you should be charged for harming mankind and thrown
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>healthier people deal with this crap, most of which we can't do anything
>about anyway. Eat right, sleep well and get exercise if you can.

The worst of it is, the nut jobs are just as bad as the drug
companies' marketing arms when it comes to misinformation.

cf. the $cientologists under the guise of the CCHR and other groups
which they back financially have been instrumental in the anti-SSRI
campaign, which has effectively muddied the waters when looking at the
very real bad effects of SSRIs by overrexaggerating the problems

All together now

Ommmmm . . .

Onnnnn . . .

Range . . . .

(Firesign Theater)
Robert Miles - 07 Mar 2008 22:28 GMT
> bugs me

See if bug spray will help.
Miss Anne Thrope - 09 Mar 2008 15:02 GMT
Gee Bill, is your paranoia a by-product of the diabetes, or have you
been goofier than a shithouse rat all along?
BillW50 - 09 Mar 2008 15:52 GMT
> Gee Bill, is your paranoia a by-product of the diabetes, or have you
> been goofier than a shithouse rat all along?

I am just tired of all of the bull. And I believe if you are out to hurt
other people on purpose, you need to be in jail. I don't understand why
we allow people like that in our society. They are no different than
terrorist when you think about it.

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RodS - 10 Mar 2008 05:30 GMT
OH bugga another for my killfile bye Bill :-)

RodS

 > I am just tired of all of the bull. And I believe if you are out to
hurt
> other people on purpose, you need to be in jail. I don't understand why
> we allow people like that in our society. They are no different than
> terrorist when you think about it.
% - 10 Mar 2008 05:53 GMT
> OH bugga another for my killfile bye Bill :-)
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>> why we allow people like that in our society. They are no different
>> than terrorist when you think about it.

now that's what i like ,
someone who can make a connection ,
between posting in a news group and terrorism
BillW50 - 10 Mar 2008 14:10 GMT
> OH bugga another for my killfile bye Bill :-)
>
> RodS

And to think I used to like you Rod. Yet another one rather take the
nonintelltual route and attack the messenger instead of message. Why are
so many unwilling to be able to use their brain anymore? Is this what
the world is coming too? Some seems to think so.

http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/16-03/st_thompson

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% - 10 Mar 2008 14:39 GMT
>> OH bugga another for my killfile bye Bill :-)
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/16-03/st_thompson

its a few people in one small group in usenet , its not the whole world
 
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