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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / March 2008Lost 8 more pounds
Holy cow! I never lose weight this fast unless I'm sick with the flu or something and not eating. I am eating the same as always. Was weighed at the Drs. on Tues. and here it is Thu. and I've lost 8 more pounds since! My scale is a new one and I weighed myself right before I went in there so I know they weigh the same. Go ACV, go! :) Congrats Julie!! I am a bit lost. What is ACV? I NEED some too!! Nana > Holy cow! I never lose weight this fast unless I'm sick with the flu or > something and not eating. I am eating the same as always. Was weighed at [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Go ACV, go! :) > Congrats Julie!! I am a bit lost. What is ACV? I NEED some too!! Apple cider vinegar. Thanks Julie. What do you do in the way of exercise? Nana >> Congrats Julie!! I am a bit lost. What is ACV? I NEED some too!! > > Apple cider vinegar. Nice! congrats! KROM > Holy cow! I never lose weight this fast unless I'm sick with the flu or > something and not eating. I am eating the same as always. Was weighed at [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Go ACV, go! :) In alt.support.diabetes on Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:55:10 GMT in Msg.# > Holy cow! I never lose weight this fast unless I'm sick with the flu or > something and not eating. I am eating the same as always. Was weighed at [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Go ACV, go! :) So, are you drinking it? How much? When?  SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhlI7BzRO3E "Happiness is not a station you arrive at, but a manner of traveling." - Margaret Lee Runbeck > In alt.support.diabetes on Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:55:10 GMT in Msg.# > <iD_zj.6305$LK3.1009@trndny02>, "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > So, are you drinking it? How much? When? No. Pills. One after each meal, but you have to wait an hour after taking meds. So about an hour after eating, since I take meds with each meal. In alt.support.diabetes on Fri, 07 Mar 2008 07:31:01 GMT in Msg.# > > In alt.support.diabetes on Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:55:10 GMT in Msg.# > > <iD_zj.6305$LK3.1009@trndny02>, "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > No. Pills. One after each meal, but you have to wait an hour after taking > meds. So about an hour after eating, since I take meds with each meal. Is it like an OTC supplement? And, what meds require the waiting period? SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhlI7BzRO3E "He [Rudy Giuliani] was too New York, too Italian & he had too many wives." - Dorothy Kaliades, Queens, on his try for Prez http://tinyurl.co.uk/gdtp > In alt.support.diabetes on Fri, 07 Mar 2008 07:31:01 GMT in Msg.# > <Va6Aj.6743$VS2.2726@trndny05>, "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Is it like an OTC supplement? And, what meds require the waiting period? Yes and all meds. >Holy cow! I never lose weight this fast unless I'm sick with the flu or >something and not eating. I am eating the same as always. Was weighed at [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Go ACV, go! :) OK! Presumably a lot of that is water-weight... are you measuring, as well as weighing? Hope it continues to work! Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 >>Holy cow! I never lose weight this fast unless I'm sick with the flu or >>something and not eating. I am eating the same as always. Was weighed at [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > OK! Presumably a lot of that is water-weight... are you measuring, as > well as weighing? Hope it continues to work! Yes. It doesn't seem to be water weight. But I could be wrong. >>>Holy cow! I never lose weight this fast unless I'm sick with the flu or >>>something and not eating. I am eating the same as always. Was weighed [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Yes. It doesn't seem to be water weight. But I could be wrong. I don't know if people have seen these. It's a scale that measures weight, % body fat and hydration level. http://www.amazon.com/Tanita-BF680W-Scale-Monitor-Athletic/dp/B0009V1YPU You never know if the pound you added (or lost) is water, fat or muscle. Well this tells you. It works quite well. Weight is very accurate, hydration levels pretty good and %BF gives an reasonable indication. On Monday I saw I had put on 2 lbs, but my hdyration levels were way up, so I didn't sweat it. When you diet too quickly and without excercise you lose muscle, which is bad. This tells you that by the increase in %body fat. The best $60 I ever spent on scales. > http://www.amazon.com/Tanita-BF680W-Scale-Monitor-Athletic/dp/B0009V1YPU > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Monday I saw I had put on 2 lbs, but my hdyration levels were way up, so I > didn't sweat it. I don't see how a scale could tell you all that. > When you diet too quickly and without excercise you lose muscle, which is > bad. This tells you that by the increase in %body fat. I exercise and I haven't changed my diet. > The best $60 I ever spent on scales. >> http://www.amazon.com/Tanita-BF680W-Scale-Monitor-Athletic/dp/B0009V1YPU >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I exercise and I haven't changed my diet. >> The best $60 I ever spent on scales. Sorry, I wasn't implying you specifically, I meant 'you' as in "when peope diet too quickly they lose....". This scale is good for people to measure their true progress in losing fat not just pounds, which is the big mistake people make when dieting. If they cut too many calories they sometime canabolize their muscle as well. Not god. But I did not mean you...I apologize if that's what it sounded like. English is my second language and I don't always re-read myself The way the scale works is it sends a pulse through your body and measures the resistance. Muscle contains more water than fat. Water shows less resistance to the pulse. You program your sex, height, weight into the scale and it uses a chip to compute the %BF. I was VERY sceptical but google Tanita you will see many health clinics and gyms use them. I also had the %BF mesaurement done with calipers and it was pretty close. I can go out, drink a few beers, get totally dehydrated and the scale tells me. I know it sounds like voodoo but it does work. Again sorry, I wasn't implying anything about you specifically. Just thought people that wanted to measure weight and fat loss would be interested in this thing. >>> http://www.amazon.com/Tanita-BF680W-Scale-Monitor-Athletic/dp/B0009V1YPU >>> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > thought people that wanted to measure weight and fat loss would be > interested in this thing. Okay. >>> http://www.amazon.com/Tanita-BF680W-Scale-Monitor-Athletic/dp/B0009V1YPU >>> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >pretty close. I can go out, drink a few beers, get totally dehydrated >and the scale tells me. I know it sounds like voodoo but it does work. Fascinating. Which model do you have? >Again sorry, I wasn't implying anything about you specifically. Just >thought people that wanted to measure weight and fat loss would be >interested in this thing. SignatureLarry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada. DX 24 Aug 07. D&E Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 (4 Mar 08) >>>> http://www.amazon.com/Tanita-BF680W-Scale-Monitor-Athletic/dp/B0009V1YPU >>>> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >> thought people that wanted to measure weight and fat loss would be >> interested in this thing. I have the 680W. It's amazing. itotito said... >>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Tanita-BF680W-Scale-Monitor-Athletic/dp/B0009V1 >>>>> YPU [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > I have the 680W. It's amazing. GREAT! Another measure I don't want to track. :( Sounds like a circusfreak stunt. I'll skip body fat, having other more important issues. How does weight translate into a body fat measure? Andy 6'3" 198lbs SignatureT2 HBP Gout :) > itotito said... > [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > Andy > 6'3" 198lbs Well if you lose 1 lb of fat and put on 1 lb of muscle instead, your %BF will go down. A body builder could be 5"10, 190lbs and no fat. Joe shmoe could be 5"10, 180lbs and a beer belly. The body builder is in much better shape although his weight is higher. You can't convert it by a formula, it has to be measured.But there are formulas to estimate it based on height, weight, neck, waist itotito said... >> itotito said... >> [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > You can't convert it by a formula, it has to be measured.But there are > formulas to estimate it based on height, weight, neck, waist OK, but how does a scale KNOW THAT? I had a body fat test once. They used a caliper like device and gathered a portion of the fat on my back. Maybe old-fashioned. I dunno. Best, Andy > itotito said... > [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > Andy The caliper test is the more accurate. There are a few other techniques including bioelectrical impedence http://new-fitness.com/body_fat_measuring.html It sends a pulse up one leg, through your body, down the other leg and measures the resistance. The more muscle, the less resistance. It then uses your height, weight, age, sex in a formula to measure your body fat. I was very sceptical, read about it and tried. I compared it to the caliper method The scale is very good for showing a trend in %BF improvement. So when you start an excercise program it's nice to see your losing fat and weight and not muscle, which is so needed and allows a higher daily calorie intake. I personally like the %water level measure because it explains the ups and downs 0f + - 3 lbs now and then. It's accuracy is like comparing our blood glucose meters to lab equipment. Not 100% exact, but gives a pretty good idea and trend >> itotito said... >> [quoted text clipped - 92 lines] > It's accuracy is like comparing our blood glucose meters to lab > equipment. Not 100% exact, but gives a pretty good idea and trend One more thing to better answer the question. You enter your height, weight age and sex when you set up the scale. Mine allows 2 people to program their data. itotito said... >>> itotito said... >>> [quoted text clipped - 101 lines] > weight age and sex when you set up the scale. Mine allows 2 people to > program their data. My scale used to yell "ONE AT A TIME, PLEASE!" <VBG> Andy : > It sends a pulse up one leg, through your body, down the other leg and : > measures the resistance. The more muscle, the less resistance. It then : > uses your height, weight, age, sex in a formula to measure your body : > fat. I was very sceptical, read about it and tried. I compared it to the : > caliper method What does one's gender have to do with this? I can see different 5 of fat fo rmale and femaale beign the desireable range, but how does it affect the measuring device(the scale)? Wendy > : > It sends a pulse up one leg, through your body, down the other leg and > : > measures the resistance. The more muscle, the less resistance. It then [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Wendy I really don't know. Maybe 'where' the fat is, but I'm guessing. It's one of the things you set up when you get the scale. The %BF feature is nice, but the thing I like the most is the hydration level because it explains the unexplained variations in weight. >> I had a body fat test once. They used a caliper like device and gathered a >> portion of the fat on my back. Maybe old-fashioned. I dunno. >> >> Best, >> >> Andy How about using a mouse like device, and snip some of these posts for relevance? :-) Cheri On 3/7/08 8:52 PM, in article qr64t3hpmpb1qpi0t03icpv2s98j08joul@4ax.com, >>>> http://www.amazon.com/Tanita-BF680W-Scale-Monitor-Athletic/dp/B0009V1YPU >>>> [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >> thought people that wanted to measure weight and fat loss would be >> interested in this thing. I bought one of those scales a couple of years ago. I can't remember the make now. I was pleased until I got to the specifications that stated: "May not be accurate for anyone with diabetes" so I took it back. So if anyone is going to buy one of these scales I suggest they check that out before giving them your money. SignatureMartha T2 Canada 1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia : On 3/7/08 8:52 PM, in article qr64t3hpmpb1qpi0t03icpv2s98j08joul@4ax.com, : >>>> http://www.amazon.com/Tanita-BF680W-Scale-Monitor-Athletic/dp/B0009V1YPU : >>>> [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] : >> thought people that wanted to measure weight and fat loss would be : >> interested in this thing. : I bought one of those scales a couple of years ago. I can't remember the : make now. I was pleased until I got to the specifications that stated: "May : not be accurate for anyone with diabetes" so I took it back. : So if anyone is going to buy one of these scales I suggest they check that : out before giving them your money. > On 3/7/08 8:52 PM, in article qr64t3hpmpb1qpi0t03icpv2s98j08joul@4ax.com, >>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Tanita-BF680W-Scale-Monitor-Athletic/dp/B0009V1YPU >>> Sorry, I wasn't implying you specifically, I meant 'you' as in "when >>> peope diet too quickly they lose....". This scale is good for people to [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >>> thought people that wanted to measure weight and fat loss would be >>> interested in this thing. > I bought one of those scales a couple of years ago. I can't remember the > make now. I was pleased until I got to the specifications that stated: "May > not be accurate for anyone with diabetes" so I took it back. > So if anyone is going to buy one of these scales I suggest they check that > out before giving them your money. They're getting very cheap. I bought one a few months ago. It did warn me that not only might it not be accurate for diabetics but many other kinds of people too. It does however always provide an accurate weight, more accurate than the mechanical bathroom scale it replaces, and so far has correctly identified weight changes due to hydration, e.g. the two pounds of water I can lose in a long hot bath. It's too soon to say whether it will correctly identify changes in the fat vs muscle components of my weight. My suspicion is that the diabetic caveat would apply to times when you have high blood sugars. SignatureChris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/] >I bought one of those scales a couple of years ago. I can't remember the >make now. I was pleased until I got to the specifications that stated: "May >not be accurate for anyone with diabetes" so I took it back. How strange! Do they think we have different impedance to everyone else? Maybe someone with uncontrolled diabetes might?! Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 >> I bought one of those scales a couple of years ago. I can't remember the >> make now. I was pleased until I got to the specifications that stated: "May [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > D&E, 100ug thyroxine > Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 I double and triple checked the manual for mine. No mention. Dehydration would definitely affect the measurement, maybe it was because of that. >>> I bought one of those scales a couple of years ago. I can't remember the >>> make now. I was pleased until I got to the specifications that stated: "May >>> not be accurate for anyone with diabetes" so I took it back. >> >> How strange! Do they think we have different impedance to everyone >> else? Maybe someone with uncontrolled diabetes might?! I don't see a higher BG per se affecting bodily impedance. The hydration changes in the wildly uncontrolled diabetic would. > I double and triple checked the manual for mine. No mention. Dehydration > would definitely affect the measurement, maybe it was because of that. Hydration level has a very pronounced effect on those digital scales which estimate hydration level :-) SignatureChris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/] >>>> I bought one of those scales a couple of years ago. I can't remember the >>>> make now. I was pleased until I got to the specifications that stated: "May [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >I don't see a higher BG per se affecting bodily impedance. The >hydration changes in the wildly uncontrolled diabetic would. There may be more to it than simple impedance. It might be checking a number of other factors; propagation delay, impedance at different frequencies, etc. I doubt they will tell us all the details. Perhaps one or more of their patents might shed some light on it. At any rate, since the signal passes from one leg to the other, I would think that calibration based on what all it passes through would be quite understandable. Men and women, last time I looked had quite different organs in the path. >> I double and triple checked the manual for mine. No mention. Dehydration >> would definitely affect the measurement, maybe it was because of that. > >Hydration level has a very pronounced effect on those digital scales >which estimate hydration level :-) SignatureLarry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada. DX 24 Aug 07. D&E Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 (4 Mar 08) >>>>I bought one of those scales a couple of years ago. I can't remember the >>>>make now. I was pleased until I got to the specifications that stated: "May [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I don't see a higher BG per se affecting bodily impedance. The > hydration changes in the wildly uncontrolled diabetic would. (snipped) > Hydration level has a very pronounced effect on those digital scales > which estimate hydration level :-) It would seem that one could establish a body fat percentage range if enough weigh ins were done. One percent would not be too bad. Mine is fairly consistent between 17 and 18%. Usually at the mid-point and my weight has been between 154 and 161 pounds for about 5 years. There is no need for greater precision in my case. Frank You are lean and not very mean :-) How tall are you ? >>>>>I bought one of those scales a couple of years ago. I can't remember >>>>>the [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Frank > You are lean and not very mean :-) > > How tall are you ? I'm about 70" in height, a fairly average sized person. I suppose you want to calculate BMI. Not so incidentally, I weighed close to 195 pounds for 30 years and was dx'd type 2 at 65. Frank >>It would seem that one could establish a body fat percentage range if >>enough weigh ins were done. One percent would not be too bad. Mine is >>fairly consistent between 17 and 18%. Usually at the mid-point and my >>weight has been between 154 and 161 pounds for about 5 years. >> >>There is no need for greater precision in my case. No, I am not a big believer in BMI. We are the same height, you are lighther, lower BMI but a bit higher on the %BF. You are also a bit older. You sound like you have very healthy weight and BF. >> You are lean and not very mean :-) >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >>> >>>There is no need for greater precision in my case. > Holy cow! I never lose weight this fast unless I'm sick with the flu or > something and not eating. I am eating the same as always. Was weighed at [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Go ACV, go! :) WTG Julie!!! Keep it up...:) SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email |
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