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Avandia and lawsuites

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Mikeb - 29 Feb 2008 23:01 GMT
Is there anyone else here that is thinking about joining one of the lawsuits
against avandia? I had bad leg problems for over 4 years while taking the
avandia. The doctors I saw could not find any cause of my problems. Last
year I switched to Byetta and dropped the avandia, all of my leg problems
ended. I see from searches that there a quite a few companies saying they
are looking for people that had heart problem with avandia, but they don't
seem to be looking for other problems. Also I don't if one set of lawers
would be better than others.
Terryc - 01 Mar 2008 01:43 GMT
> Is there anyone else here that is thinking about joining one of the lawsuits
> against avandia?

No point from me. It would be impossible to seperate anything likely
caused by Avandia from my genetic inheritance.

In anycase, I only took it for a month until I confirmed it was a likely
cause for a problem that turned up.
Tiger_Lily - 01 Mar 2008 01:51 GMT
> Is there anyone else here that is thinking about joining one of the lawsuits
> against avandia? I had bad leg problems for over 4 years while taking the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> seem to be looking for other problems. Also I don't if one set of lawers
> would be better than others.

why would you sue the makers of Avandia?
swelling in the legs is a STATED side effect that the Dr's are supposed
to look for, and change the med if this starts

sounds like you want to sue your Dr if you want to sue anyone

why didn't YOU look up the information on Avandia..... you have internet
access, and the information is freely available
Uncle Enrico - 02 Mar 2008 08:44 GMT
>> Is there anyone else here that is thinking about joining one of the
>> lawsuits against avandia? I had bad leg problems for over 4 years
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> why didn't YOU look up the information on Avandia..... you have internet
> access, and the information is freely available

You make a good argument but think of all the elderly patients taking
six or seven drugs with long lists of side-effects, scant time with busy
doctors and no internet savvy. If they're diabetic patients and
overweight,  the leg symptoms could be ascribed to poor circulation
incident to diabetes and the patient could wind up getting heavy pain
medications on top of everything else.

Sounds like a flawed product that would best be replaced with Lantus,
or, in this case, Byetta.
Mikeb - 02 Mar 2008 17:22 GMT
The product maybe real good for some people and not have side effects
like it did with me. The problem was that the effects were much stronger in
me than the people they tested on. I am a little overweight, but when the
doctors did their testing on me, I had good circulation in my legs and feet
and they could not find a reason for my problem.
   I believe that there is one great flaw with our medical system, a lot of
problems are only tied to something wrong within the body and when a cause
is listed it is not tied to possible drug interactions. When I do searches
on my different problems, nothing comes up that list possible drugs that
could be linked to the problem.
  We are also missing a system that allows doctors to report back when they
find problems related to drugs. You find that ending a drug clears up a
problem, the doctor should be able to report it to a national databank. If
enough hits on a drug are entered, the drug needs another look. The same
system should also allow good reports on the drug, solved one problem that
it was designed for and also help with another unrelated problem. Of course
with me and avandia, the first report would have been real good, it work as
designed with few problems.
morris - 01 Mar 2008 04:44 GMT
What kind of bad leg problems did you have with Avandia?  Was it
edema, or swelling, or was it something else?

Morris

> Is there anyone else here that is thinking about joining one of the lawsuits
> against avandia? I had bad leg problems for over 4 years while taking the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> seem to be looking for other problems. Also I don't if one set of lawers
> would be better than others.
Màck©® - 01 Mar 2008 14:28 GMT
>Is there anyone else here that is thinking about joining one of the lawsuits
>against avandia? I had bad leg problems for over 4 years while taking the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>seem to be looking for other problems. Also I don't if one set of lawers
>would be better than others.

in a class action law suit, what do you think you would actually get?
besides a headache and a waste of time.

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bj - 01 Mar 2008 20:02 GMT
> in a class action law suit, what do you think you would actually get?
> besides a headache and a waste of time.

a coupon for something off on another purchase of the same product!
bj
Mikeb - 01 Mar 2008 21:42 GMT
Although I feel that most lawsuits would not happen if common sense was
used, there are some that cause problems to be fix that would other wise
would cause more people problems. The two I can think of is the famous hot
coffee and the 3 wheeler atv suites.
 In the case of the coffee, common sense would say to treat hot items as if
they can burn you. Now I don't know for sure, but I believe the main cause
was the type of cup the coffee was served in collapsed caused by the coffee
being to hot for the container. Hopefully the case caused servers of coffee
to use better cups and not to over heat the coffee.
 The 3 wheeler showed that using common sense, parents should not let their
kids play with unstable high powered "toys". Today there are no 3 wheel atvs
sold in the US. Some people would like to do the same thing with the 4 wheel
atvs. The blame lies not with the atv but with the riders. In my area, there
are several kids who ride atvs at a high speed up and down the roads, they
have been lucky so far.
 Onward with my case. Would I sue my doctor for not knowing that the
avandia could case sever leg problems? No - the effects as stated was that
it could cause some swelling. Did I have sometimes have a little swelling,
yes. But my legs went to the point where blisters formed, where the skin
broke open with the smallest touch, became hot to the touch and so sore that
I could not walk. Because of the leg problem, I ended up in the hospital
several times, went thru many IV treatments, cat scans, and other test as
the doctors where trying to find the problem and a treatment. Not just 1
doctor, but I saw at least 10. All knew the drugs I was taking and none
suggested that it was caused by the avandia or anything else I was taking.
  It was only after looking up leg problems on the net that I suggested
trying predisone to my doctor. He agreed that everything else had been tried
and that predisone may offer some relief for the problem. So I spent the
next couple of years taking predisone every time the soreness started coming
to my legs. This happened at least 3 to 4 times a year. This cause problems
with my readings going over 200 and having some problems with my eyes. This
also affected my time at work, I would have to go home after a few hours
because of the affects. So every 3 to 4 months, I would be mostly gone from
work to handle the side effects of the medicine.
 At the end of 06, I switched to Byetta and since then I have not had any
leg problems. Still can not walk very far and still have a little limp, but
nothing like before.
 So should the company that made avandis pay for my problems? If they had
tested the drug a little more maybe it would not have cause my problems and
others that have had heart problems. Maybe if they had better warnings of
possible side effects the doctors would have changed my drugs sooner. It is
sad, but with our current companies and government processes, things are not
changed until it affects their bottom line($$$) and outside pressure makes
them change. And it normally takes a group of  complainers before someone
really looks into the problem.

So maybe my question was foolish and I shouldn't have asked if there was
anyone else out there looking into the lawsuits, but this a group for
diabetes and the drug is for diabetes. Most of the cases look like they are
centered around the heart problems, and being that I can only look at the
lawers web sites, that maybe there was one that someone else had researched
and found to be a good lawer to work with.
Uncle Enrico - 02 Mar 2008 10:37 GMT
>   Onward with my case. Would I sue my doctor for not knowing that the
> avandia could case sever leg problems? No - the effects as stated was that
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> leg problems. Still can not walk very far and still have a little limp, but
> nothing like before.

If your problems were caused by Avandia, you deserve to get compensated
for your medical bills and the damage that it may have done to your
health. The blistering, the pain, the lost of mobility and the
prednisone plus out of control blood sugars and hospital expenses all
argue for compensation.
Good luck with this. Let us know how it turns out.

I wish my brother-in-law would get off the stuff.
morris - 02 Mar 2008 20:30 GMT
Sounds like the drug caused you problems that I never experienced.
Edema was listed as a side effect, and I knew about it, and watched
for it from day one. Its appearance would have caused me to stop
taking it, especially since, as we now know, the heart problems
associated with Avandia are much more likely if edema manifests as a
side effect.

If you did not know about edema as a side effect, you can't really
blame the makers of Avandia for that--it has been in their warnings
for at least 5 years, probably since they first began marketing the
drug. Maybe you would have a case against the doctors who did not
associate your problems with Avandia--certainly theyu might have
suspected it.

If the problem is that your other serious leg problems were caused by
Avandia, but not listed as side effects, then you might have a case
against the company that makes it, particularly if the class action
lawyers have found other people who shared your experience.

Morris

> Although I feel that most lawsuits would not happen if common sense was
> used, there are some that cause problems to be fix that would other wise
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
> lawers web sites, that maybe there was one that someone else had researched
> and found to be a good lawer to work with.
 
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