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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / March 2008Going shopping
I'm going to go grocery shopping. I'm not sure what to buy and what to stay away from. I realize everyone is different. Is there a web site I can go to to give me a general idea. Going to load up on green veggies. I'm not a fussy eater so anything you guys can suggest would be helpful. Remember that I don't have my results back so I'm not sure if I have Diabetes or not, but eating properly won't kill me...TY > I'm going to go grocery shopping. I'm not sure what to buy and what to > stay away from. I realize everyone is different. Is there a web site I > can go to to give me a general idea. Going to load up on green veggies. > I'm not a fussy eater so anything you guys can suggest would be helpful. > Remember that I don't have my results back so I'm not sure if I have > Diabetes or not, but eating properly won't kill me... Would suggest you be smart and invest in a food scale: http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart > TY You are welcome. Redirecting all thanks and praises to GOD so that we will both be that much more blessed (hungrier). Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthy Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords. >I'm going to go grocery shopping. I'm not sure what to buy and what to >stay away from. I realize everyone is different. Is there a web site I >can go to to give me a general idea. Going to load up on green veggies. >I'm not a fussy eater so anything you guys can suggest would be helpful. >Remember that I don't have my results back so I'm not sure if I have >Diabetes or not, but eating properly won't kill me...TY No hard and fast rules. Just some generalisations. These are not exhaustive lists. Things I buy rarely if at all: Rice Pasta Anything from a bakery other than occasional bread (I use maybe three slices of multigrain bread a day at most and buy nothing else made of flour) Corn Pre-cooked or processed foods Flour Breakfast Cereals Things I buy often: Seasonal vegetables of all types, apart from root vegetables Diet sodas Eggs Meats Fish (fresh and canned) Unflavoured Plain Yoghurts Canned tomatoes Nuts (usually almonds, cashews, walnuts, brazil) Cheeses (cheddars, brie, camembert, blue etc) Fruits (but I am careful on portions and timing when eatin g them) Psyllium Husk Spices Things I buy occasionally. Potatoes and other starchy veges. Muesli Dry beans (kidney, garbanzo etc etc) Lentils Just off the top of my head. others will expand the list. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Latest: The Diabetes Revolution? > >I'm going to go grocery shopping. I'm not sure what to buy and what to > >stay away from. I realize everyone is different. Is there a web site I [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > --http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com > Latest: The Diabetes Revolution? Same list as me!! But dont forget - drinks lots of water too!!! Not only can it assist in that horrible constantly dry tongue and throat sensation of the onset of diabetes, it flushes everything through. I drink approximately 10 large glasses of water a day and, ironically, I used to pee alot more before I started drinking more water! > I'm going to go grocery shopping. I'm not sure what to buy and what to > stay away from. I realize everyone is different. Is there a web site I > can go to to give me a general idea. Going to load up on green veggies. > I'm not a fussy eater so anything you guys can suggest would be helpful. > Remember that I don't have my results back so I'm not sure if I have > Diabetes or not, but eating properly won't kill me...TY Here's what I buy: This requires cooking: Green veggies: asparagus, brussel sprouts, cabbage, lettuce, broccoli, cauliflower, artichokes, zucchini, egg plant, squash, summer squash, etc. Lean Proteins: skinless turkey and chicken, small quantities of grass fed beef, fish Snack stuff: almonds, walnuts, pecans, celery, carrot sticks, green peppers, radishes, Canned meats: sardines, tuna, salmon, chicken Canned vegetables: diced whole tomatoes, tomato paste, tomato sauce Drinks: low carb soy milk Dairy: cheese, cottage cheese, plain yogurt, Fruit: whatever is in season that isn't the sweetest stuff around: cantaloupe, Granny Smith apples, strawberries, blue berries, tomatoes, ---be very careful on quantities. > I'm going to go grocery shopping. I'm not sure what to buy and what to > stay away from. I realize everyone is different. Is there a web site I > can go to to give me a general idea. Going to load up on green veggies. > I'm not a fussy eater so anything you guys can suggest would be helpful. > Remember that I don't have my results back so I'm not sure if I have > Diabetes or not, but eating properly won't kill me...TY Hi, my name is louie limberopoulos, and I just joined google groups cause I would like to get the word out on health and basically anything related to it. I like helping people out so I hope some of this info will help you out. I am a personal trainer at x sport fitness in chicago and I find it interesting that so many of my clients are either diabetic or prediabetic. So I try to find a solution or direct them to someone who can help them out for whatever reason. As far as diet, I tell them all the time based on my years of research in nutrition. Eat the freshest food possible and stay away from anything in a can or box.We were never meant to eat these foods.You need to especially avoid grains/sugars because these impact our blood sugar the most. Now I can't coach you on your diet unless you would like to email me but I can tell you about a certain health food that nobody is talking about it is extra virgin coconut oil. ( go ahead and google it) It is good for many things like blood sugar stabilization, weight loss, energy, health skin, healthy heart and many more. On top of that it's a fat that can never get stored as fat. Anyway let me know what you think and I have many more tips that work. Louie ( l-limber@hotmail.com ) On Jan 23, 6:56 pm, l-lim...@hotmail.com wrote: > > I'm going to go grocery shopping. I'm not sure what to buy and what to > > stay away from. I realize everyone is different. Is there a web site I [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > fat. Anyway let me know what you think and I have many more tips that > work. Louie ( l-lim...@hotmail.com ) Sorry it's l-limber@hotmail.com On Jan 23, 6:56 pm, l-lim...@hotmail.com wrote: > > I'm going to go grocery shopping. I'm not sure what to buy and what to > > stay away from. I realize everyone is different. Is there a web site I [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > fat. Anyway let me know what you think and I have many more tips that > work. Louie ( l-lim...@hotmail.com ) On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:56:21 -0800 (PST), smellylimberger@hotmail.com wrote: >Hi, my name is louie limberopoulos, and I just joined google groups >cause I would like to get the word out on health and basically >anything related to it. Hi and goodbye spammer. Yet another leech aiming to profit from us but who knows absolutely nothing about diabetes. Alan, T2, Australia. > On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:56:21 -0800 (PST), > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Alan, T2, Australia. I'm very offended by that remark. I profit in no way with my tips on health. These are the same tips I give to all my clients and members at the gym through the articles that I write. >> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:56:21 -0800 (PST), >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >health. These are the same tips I give to all my clients and members >at the gym through the articles that I write. God help them, they need it desperately.  SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/type1and2/ http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" http://www.ratbags.com/dechunging/ "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . >> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:56:21 -0800 (PST), >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >health. These are the same tips I give to all my clients and members >at the gym through the articles that I write. You arrive out of the blue announcing your solutions to diet and fitness for diabetics and inviting us to email you privately to find out what those solutions are. You mention these simplistic solutions: "Eat the freshest food possible and stay away from anything in a can or box.We were never meant to eat these foods.You need to especially avoid grains/sugars because these impact our blood sugar the most." Most of us here agree with that, but it's only a tiny part of the complex subject of nutrition for type 2 diabetes. Then, of course, comes the special "email me direct for a personal consultation" hook and the whiff of a wonder food: "Now I can't coach you on your diet unless you would like to email me but I can tell you about a certain health food that nobody is talking about it is extra virgin coconut oil." You invited us to google it. EVCO may or may not be wonderful, but the claims made for it aren't as far as the FDA is concerned. You should be careful about such claims or they will send you something like this: http://tinyurl.com/yvjlet or this: http://tinyurl.com/3soww or this: http://tinyurl.com/yu57pf My antennae rise when I see statements like yours. I reckon the chance of a private email leading to an enthusiastic response letting me know how to obtain EVCO through you is rather high. You are neither a doctor nor a diabetic - just a wonderful citizen altruistically here to help us. Yeah, right. Be offended. Be very offended. But when someone drops in here without establishing some credibility we tend to be skeptical. Very skeptical. And I remain so. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Latest: The Diabetes Revolution? >>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:56:21 -0800 (PST), >>> [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > > And I remain so. I think you speak for pretty much all of us here Alan. In the old west they were called snake oil salesman. Was BS then, and remains the same today. SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email >> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:56:21 -0800 (PST), >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >I'm very offended by that remark. An offended spammer. Whodathunkit? >>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:56:21 -0800 (PST), >>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >An offended spammer. Whodathunkit? Who cares? SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/type1and2/ http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" http://www.ratbags.com/dechunging/ "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . In alt.support.diabetes on Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:06:04 -0500 in Msg.# <vvgip3918tosrctu2bctdosg7us2rpmab0@4ax.com>, Màck©® <IAM@OneWithTheGoddess.org> wrote: > >>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:56:21 -0800 (PST), > >>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Who cares? I'm kinda tickled myself. SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel I get a lot of different veggies, all colours, not just green ;) I buy meat, chicken, fish, eggs, cheeses etc. Some fats like nuts, olive oil, olives, avocados. Sugar free jellies, low carb bread or wraps where available, low GI fruits. Just basic foods really. > I'm going to go grocery shopping. I'm not sure what to buy and what to > stay away from. I realize everyone is different. Is there a web site I > can go to to give me a general idea. Going to load up on green veggies. > I'm not a fussy eater so anything you guys can suggest would be helpful. > Remember that I don't have my results back so I'm not sure if I have > Diabetes or not, but eating properly won't kill me...TY : Sugar free jellies, low carb bread or wraps where available, low GI fruits. : Just basic foods really. If you are in th US, please understand that what those in OZ call jellies, Usans call Jello or gelatine dessert. What we ccall jelly, the eincorporate into the catagory of jams. Wendy >: Sugar free jellies, low carb bread or wraps where available, low GI fruits. >: Just basic foods really. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Wendy Yep:-) Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Latest: The Diabetes Revolution? > : Sugar free jellies, low carb bread or wraps where available, low GI > fruits. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Usans call Jello or gelatine dessert. What we ccall jelly, the > eincorporate into the catagory of jams. Just stay away from the Vegemite...;) SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email On 25 Jan, 09:31, "DarkSentinel" <darkmungesenti...@munge.charter.munge.net> wrote: > > : Sugar free jellies, low carb bread or wraps where available, low GI > > fruits. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Just stay away from the Vegemite...;) Hey! I'm a Marmite gal, meself!! :))) > On 25 Jan, 09:31, "DarkSentinel" > <darkmungesenti...@munge.charter.munge.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Hey! I'm a Marmite gal, meself!! :))) Haven't tried that yet. Have tried Vegemite. Tastes like a mixture of road tar and who knows what...lol Guess it's an acquired taste though. My friend in Perth says her daughter lives on the stuff...:) Sort of like potted meat here in the states. All that is, is ears, lips, snouts, and a.sholes (remains after the hog has been slaughtered)...ROFL SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email On 26 Jan, 10:15, "DarkSentinel" <darkmungesenti...@munge.charter.munge.net> wrote: > > On 25 Jan, 09:31, "DarkSentinel" > > <darkmungesenti...@munge.charter.munge.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Sort of like potted meat here in the states. All that is, is ears, lips, > snouts, and a.sholes (remains after the hog has been slaughtered)...ROFL LOL Yes, we have burger vans here in the UK - mobile roadside cafe type vehicles. They offer the same kind of *content* in their burgers and hotdogs!!! Not been able to stomach that kind of crap for absolute years. My gorge would rise if I attempted to eat one. Thank goodness for instinct! >> >> > : Sugar free jellies, low carb bread or wraps where available, low GI >> >> > fruits. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >> > Usans call Jello or gelatine dessert. What we ccall jelly, the >> >> > eincorporate into the catagory of jams. G'day G'day Folks, Here in New Zealand we make a distinction between jelly and jello. Jelly is made with gelatine and so is not eaten by vegetarians. Jello is made with agar so is compatible with a vegetarian diet. In both instances they refer to the stuff used to make wobbly deserts. Agar is a source of soluble fibre while gelatine is mostly rather poor quality protein. Gelatine is missing some amino acids. Best wishes SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin [Wendy said] >> >> Just stay away from the Vegemite...;) [Ozgirl replied] >> > Hey! I'm a Marmite gal, meself!! :))) [Helen rejoined with] >> Haven't tried that yet. Have tried Vegemite. Tastes like a mixture of road >> tar and who knows what...lol >> >> Guess it's an acquired taste though. My friend in Perth says her daughter >> lives on the stuff...:) If I've muddled the attributions please let me know. G'day G'day all, Vegemite, Marmite, Promite and all the rest are an acquired taste. This comes as a surprise to New Zealanders who have grown up with it and hence are inclined to believe everyone loves it instinctively. It is only comments by countless Americans and others that let them know that it really is an acquired taste. Is it good for one? Probably. It is a good source of B group vitamins. Yeast is induced to digest itself and so the extract is rich in whatever the yeast can provide. Best wishes, SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin > [Wendy said] >>> >> Just stay away from the Vegemite...;) <-- mine...:) > > [Ozgirl replied] >>> > Hey! I'm a Marmite gal, meself!! :))) ....Mine.... > [Helen rejoined with] >>> Haven't tried that yet. Have tried Vegemite. Tastes like a mixture of [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >>> daughter >>> lives on the stuff...:) ....... :) > If I've muddled the attributions please let me know. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Yeast is induced to digest itself and so the extract is rich in > whatever the yeast can provide. I think the same could be said about any cuisine. Here in the US we have stuff called Souse (pork trimmings chopped and pickled and jelled), Chitterlings (the intestines of a pig), pronounced Chitlins in the south. None of which I would touch on a bet btw. Japanese for example eat what most Americans would throw away, fish heads, brains, etc. Those who watch the food channel will remember the original "Iron Chef", and most of the ingredients they used were ummmm, strange to say the least. They also eat stuff most Americans would consider bait...;) As you alluded to, it's all a matter of where you grew up. For those that would like to see some of the "unique" cuisines from around the world, on the "Travel Channel", there is a show called "Bizarre Cuisine". Warning however, if you have a weak tummy, this show may not be for you. The host ate some stuff that even gagged ME...lol SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email >I think the same could be said about any cuisine. Here in the US we have >stuff called Souse (pork trimmings chopped and pickled and jelled), [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >ingredients they used were ummmm, strange to say the least. They also eat >stuff most Americans would consider bait...;) Fish bait. G'day G'day Dark Sentinel, I've been hoping to get T2 diabetics to eat fish bait for years. Mind you I haven't set a good example so I can't complain. All jokes aside here is the reason. We need taurine to stabilize the osmotic pressure in our eyes. Taurine also is better than glycine for removing cholesterol. Glycine is OK for vegan but then they have a lower requirement for removing cholesterol. Taurine only comes from non-vegetable sources. The best sources are fish hearts and other fish innards. These have about ten times as much as fish flesh. Meat is a good source but only if not over cooked. However, nothing touches fish hearts. IMHO it is no coincidence that the folks living on the Shetland islands who frequently live to a hundred have fish hearts in vinegar as an entree. >As you alluded to, it's all a matter of where you grew up. For those that >would like to see some of the "unique" cuisines from around the world, on >the "Travel Channel", there is a show called "Bizarre Cuisine". Warning >however, if you have a weak tummy, this show may not be for you. The host >ate some stuff that even gagged ME...lol Best wishes, SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin >>I think the same could be said about any cuisine. Here in the US we have >>stuff called Souse (pork trimmings chopped and pickled and jelled), [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >Meat is a good source but only if not over cooked. However, nothing >touches fish hearts. We get stuff called "whitebait" here, which is some form of generic small fish fried whole in batter. Eaten with plenty of salad and not too many chips (French Fries) and washed down with a small amount of alcohol-containing beer (the low-alcohol stuff |I used to drink as "designated driver" proved much worse for my BG) I find them to be quite doable though a walk afterwards helps deal with the batter. Just one disclaimer though, they *may* have been responsible for my mother's latest attack of gout. In alt.support.diabetes on Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:38:56 +0000 in Msg.# <6m33s3h8fg03e0t6pnk91l9aqq3r2epoof@4ax.com>, Trinkwasser <spam@devnull.com.invalid> wrote: > We get stuff called "whitebait" here, ... Where's here? <G> SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUKDMNZIox0 -- DonnaB shallotpeel, T2 since June 06, USA "Writing became a way for me to talk about myself - or a character - in a really personal, surprising manner without any embarrassment. I was brought up to be an incredibly nice person, but not everything I wanted to say was nice." - Louise Erdrich >In alt.support.diabetes on Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:38:56 +0000 in Msg.# ><6m33s3h8fg03e0t6pnk91l9aqq3r2epoof@4ax.com>, Trinkwasser [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Where's here? <G> For me, the UK. But I don't know how generic whitebait is throughout the rest of the world, it may be called different things in different places, I think I've seen similar stuff around Europe and the Baltic <waves> /me forgets who has joined here since I was last posting, I've spent much of the last year trawling through the dim and distant past of the group and trying desperately to catch up again >>In alt.support.diabetes on Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:38:56 +0000 in Msg.# >><6m33s3h8fg03e0t6pnk91l9aqq3r2epoof@4ax.com>, Trinkwasser [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >the rest of the world, it may be called different things in different >places, I think I've seen similar stuff around Europe and the Baltic Only for catching fish (Canada). ><waves> SignatureLarry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada. DX 24 Aug 07. D&E Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 > I'm going to go grocery shopping. I'm not sure what to buy and what to > stay away from. I realize everyone is different. Is there a web site I > can go to to give me a general idea. Going to load up on green veggies. > I'm not a fussy eater so anything you guys can suggest would be helpful. > Remember that I don't have my results back so I'm not sure if I have > Diabetes or not, but eating properly won't kill me...TY There really isn't a website. Basically you'll want to cut back on the starchy, carby things and increase the less carby things. >> I'm going to go grocery shopping. I'm not sure what to buy and what to >> stay away from. I realize everyone is different. Is there a web site I [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >There really isn't a website. Basically you'll want to cut back on the >starchy, carby things and increase the less carby things. well that depends. once one learns how to count carbs and how many of which types of carbs they can handle in each meal, there are some very helpful sites. like www.calorieking.com SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/type1and2/ http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" http://www.ratbags.com/dechunging/ "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . > > Is there a web site I > > can go to to give me a general idea. I'm assuming that you've already figured out that many of us here (but by no means all) use a low-carb approach. Jenny's posting is helpful: What Can You Eat When You are Cutting Carbs? http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/18856280.php Beyond that, you'll probably find that breakfast is the hardest meal. That's when a given amount of starch will spike us the most, and it's also the time we're most used to eating high-carb. Also the time when many of us are rushed and can't spend a half hour cooking. These dishes will have more fat and protein than you're used to eating Breakfast suggestions: Salmon Eggs, eggs, eggs, ham and eggs, ham Omelettes with lots of veggies, cheese Chopped veggies (celery, mushrooms, broccoli, onions, spinach) sauteed with olive oil or butter Avocado Grapefruit w/ splenda Leftover meat (whatever from last night.) Sausage, bacon Sliced lunchmeat, with mustard Plenty of coffee with half-n-half Low carb yogurt if you can find it Get a large package of chicken drumsticks. Night before, marinate them, cook them and refrigerate them. Makes a handy breakfast / snack / whatever. Most of the 'low carb' pacakged foods are bad food. But there are some low-carb tortillas out there that are pretty good. They don''t have much taste one way or the other, but they're handy for wrapping up scrambled eggs and making something you can eat with your hands. : > > Is there a web site I : > > can go to to give me a general idea. : I'm assuming that you've already figured out that many of us here (but : by no means all) use a low-carb approach. Jenny's posting is helpful: : What Can You Eat When You are Cutting Carbs? : http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/18856280.php : Beyond that, you'll probably find that breakfast is the hardest meal. : That's when a given amount of starch will spike us the most, and it's : also the time we're most used to eating high-carb. Also the time when : many of us are rushed and can't spend a half hour cooking. These : dishes will have more fat and protein than you're used to eating : Breakfast suggestions: : Salmon [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] : have much taste one way or the other, but they're handy for wrapping : up scrambled eggs and making something you can eat with your hands. Best breakfist for ME, as it just doesn't spike me 1/3-1/2 C cottage cheese, small amounts of a few fruits, ie, handful of berries, 3 strawberries, 1/2 clementine orange, 1/4 or small-medium aple, 1/5 -1/6 mango, 1 apricot, dried or fresh, 1/2 peach or plum. Use 2-4 of these fruits adn top wit some plain yogurt, about 1/4-1/5 C. I have this most mornings with my black coffee and my Chrystal Light "Sunrise" Classic orange, fake OJ. Others that work are eggs with 1-2 Wasa or Ryevits crackers, or 2 oz smoked salmon with cream cheese on 2-3 Wasa or Ryevita crackers. Good luck with our efforts. Wendy >> > Is there a web site I >> > can go to to give me a general idea. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Avocado > Grapefruit w/ splenda Just a quick note. Check your medications if you like eating grapefruit. I believe most statins are diminished in effect by grapefruit. > Leftover meat (whatever from last night.) > Sausage, bacon [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >have much taste one way or the other, but they're handy for wrapping >up scrambled eggs and making something you can eat with your hands. SignatureLarry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada. DX 24 Aug 07. D&E Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 : Just a quick note. Check your medications if you like eating : grapefruit. I believe most statins are diminished in effect by : grapefruit. Nope, the oposte, at least fo rMetformin. It makes them stronger. I have been told (being on both a statin and Metformin) that it is OK if I don't have them together adn don't eat that grapefruit every day. I sometimes have a half as my dinner dessert adn no problems. I got tis information from both my doctor and my druggest. Wendy > : Just a quick note. Check your medications if you like eating > : grapefruit. I believe most statins are diminished in effect by [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Wendy A Google search turned up nothing on metformin and grapefruit interactions, and I never saw it on the references I have bookmarked over the years. It is a critical matter for me as I am on a statin, calcium channel blocker, and cyclosporine. The problem is that components of grapefruit (and pomelo, ugli fruit, tangelo's, and seville oranges) interfere with the rate of metabolism of the medications in question. This results in either too much or too little over the expected course of time. This is can and in some cases has been fatal. These are my favourite pages: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/food-and-nutrition/AN00413 (see discussion on whether to avoid grapefruit completely) http://www.globalrph.com/gfruit.htm http://www.cmaj.ca/cgi/content/full/167/3/279/T125 http://www.powernetdesign.com/grapefruit/general/GJDIsummary.pdf (detailed list of drugs) Dennis (Type 2) >> : Just a quick note. Check your medications if you like eating >> : grapefruit. I believe most statins are diminished in effect by [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > >(detailed list of drugs) Thanks for the pointers, Dennis. SignatureLarry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada. DX 24 Aug 07. D&E Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 >: Just a quick note. Check your medications if you like eating >: grapefruit. I believe most statins are diminished in effect by [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >I got tis information from both my doctor and my druggest. You're right. Grapefruit increases the absorbtion of statins. I misremembered. It can, of course, be dangerous, but if the dosage is taken into account, it can also be quite safe. The cardiologist wants me to increase my simvastatin from 20 to 40 mg, and tomorrow, I see a doc who is filling in for my GP. I'll mention the grapefruit juice and ask if I can stay on 20 mg, to be taken with a little grapefruit juice. SignatureLarry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada. DX 24 Aug 07. D&E Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 >: Just a quick note. Check your medications if you like eating >: grapefruit. I believe most statins are diminished in effect by [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >I got tis information from both my doctor and my druggest. Hmm... now I find quite a few articles that say grapefruit slows the metabolism of simvastatin. SignatureLarry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada. DX 24 Aug 07. D&E Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 >>: Just a quick note. Check your medications if you like eating >>: grapefruit. I believe most statins are diminished in effect by [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> >>I got tis information from both my doctor and my druggest. > Hmm... now I find quite a few articles that say grapefruit slows the > metabolism of simvastatin. By "metabolism" here is meant "inactivation by the liver". Consequently slowing this kind of metabolism (which might less misleadingly have been referred to as "katabolism" or "breakdown") has the effect of raising the amount in the bloodstream and slowing the rate at which it disappears, i.e. similar in effect to increasing the original dose. When lots of people take it upon themsleves to simplify the information they pass on so that it won't confuse people, the result is usually very confusing :-) However, the danger comes from gulping down grapefruit juice. Check how many grapefruits you need to squeeze to fill a big glass. The amount you get from eating half a grapefruit is not really significant, in effect within the usual medical dose tolerances. You might notice some difference if you shifted from never eating grapefruit to eating a half every day. SignatureChris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/] > However, the danger comes from gulping down grapefruit juice. Check > how many grapefruits you need to squeeze to fill a big glass. The > amount you get from eating half a grapefruit is not really > significant, in effect within the usual medical dose tolerances. You > might notice some difference if you shifted from never eating > grapefruit to eating a half every day. Yep. I've been eating some grapefruit lately. When I finish my half a grapefruit, there's some juice left sitting in the shell. It always seems like a lot. However, when I squeeze it into a juice glass so I can drink it, it's maybe 2 oz of juice, in other words, not a lot. Obviously, there's some more in the fruit that I eat, but not all that much. Signature"[xxx] has very definite opinions, and does not suffer fools lightly. This, apparently, upsets the fools." ---BB cuts to the pith of a flame-fest >>>: Just a quick note. Check your medications if you like eating >>>: grapefruit. I believe most statins are diminished in effect by [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >rate at which it disappears, i.e. similar in effect to increasing the >original dose. Ahh! Of course. I was conflating two different concepts. I understand now. >When lots of people take it upon themsleves to simplify the >information they pass on so that it won't confuse people, the result [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >might notice some difference if you shifted from never eating >grapefruit to eating a half every day. Hmm... I think I must buy different grapefruit than you (well, used to buy). I seldom ate only half, and the only ones I ever bought were the "Ruby Red" from Texas, and if they weren't very juicy, I would await the next shipment. I do like grapefruit juice though. It's probably my favourite juice. SignatureLarry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada. DX 24 Aug 07. D&E Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 >>: Just a quick note. Check your medications if you like eating >>: grapefruit. I believe most statins are diminished in effect by [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Hmm... now I find quite a few articles that say grapefruit slows the > metabolism of simvastatin. Right, which *raises* serum levels, not lower them, because grapefruit juice interferes with the metabolic pathway to degrade many drugs. Susan >>> > Is there a web site I >>> > can go to to give me a general idea. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > grapefruit. I believe most statins are diminished in effect by > grapefruit. Indeed. Some worse than others. My Zocor tops the list. Is why I don't drink Fresca anymore...:( SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email |
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