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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / February 2008Low Carb Bread
Hey, peeps! Long time, no post. I haven't fallen off the wagon or been doing anything spectacular, so I've just been hanging around in the background, lurking. Recently my wife (a certified carbaholic) came across a recipe for "low carb" bread and has been dying to try it on me. So I had 2 slices on an empty stomach. Tested before (108), at 20 mins (118) and at 1 hour (112). I felt this was a successful recipe (it was really good) it looked and tasted just like regular wheat bread you'd buy at the store. I've tried in vain to find any low carb bread at the supermarket so I was pretty much resigned to a life without bread. It has been months since I've had anything remotely resembling the light, fluffy, crusty on the outside, spongy on the inside--you know...bread. Anyway, you'd have to have a clue about how to make bread to make the recipe work but here it is for anyone with the time and the jones on for some low carb grain products. I still won't make bread a staple anytime soon, as I really have gotten used to my veggies, salads, meat and cheese dishes. But for a once in a while treat--- Here's the recipe: 1 pkg dry yeast 1 tsp sugar (for proofing the yeast) 1 1/8 cup "baby bottle warm" water (90-100F) 3 tbs olive oil 1 tsp salt 1 tbs Splenda 1 cup vital wheat gluten flour 1/4 cup oat flour 3/4 cup soy flour 1/4 cup flax seed meal 1/4 cup coarse, unprocessed wheat bran This was a bread machine recipe, but my wife managed to make it using a conventional oven using regular bread dough making techniques (secret, of course). 45 mins at 350F or until golden brown. Happy New Year and keep the faith! Andrew T2, A1C 5.5 (Other changes for 2008, I ditched the beer for red wine. The meter made me do it!) On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:52:44 -0800, hoodyup wrote: > Hey, peeps! Long time, no post. I haven't fallen off the wagon or been > doing anything spectacular, so I've just been hanging around in the [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > Andrew T2, A1C 5.5 (Other changes for 2008, I ditched the beer for red > wine. The meter made me do it!) Have you tried Oroweat Double Fibre? It's 10 grams net. I've also run across one or two other brands with similar breads. I've also recently found low carb flour tortillas - about 4 grams net. > On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:52:44 -0800, hoodyup wrote: > > Hey, peeps! Long time, no post. I haven't fallen off the wagon or been [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > across one or two other brands with similar breads. I've also recently > found low carb flour tortillas - about 4 grams net. I was buying the Double Fiber bread for my wife but not eating it myself. I guess I was just being very cautious. I don't know if the "net carb" thing always works for me. I've had to 86 some ice cream products due to my tendency to overeat on it because I was doing fuzzy mathematics in order to eat bigger servings. They advertise only 3 net carbs, but somehow they start out with 10 and because some are from sugar alcohol, they don't count? Anyway, bread is more straightforward (I guess). Total carbs minus fiber equals net carb grams. I used to love fajitas with Don Pancho's low carb tortillas (4 net carbs). The meter approved, too. If I think about those fajitas, I'll want a beer again :( Andrew T2 A1C 5.5 (needing to go for more bike rides in 2008) >> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:52:44 -0800, hoodyup wrote: >> > Hey, peeps! Long time, no post. I haven't fallen off the wagon or [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > > Andrew T2 A1C 5.5 (needing to go for more bike rides in 2008) They often don't count the sugar alcohols that act like sugar for some people and laxatives for some others. On Jan 19, 4:56 pm, "Robert Miles" <robertmi...@bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote: > <hood...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > They often don't count the sugar alcohols that act like sugar for > some people and laxatives for some others. I am fuzzy on the whole sugar alcohol thing. Is it a sugar? Is it an alcohol? Is it a sugar made from alcohol or an alcohol made from sugar? I haven't found it to spike me or give me laxative effects. But I do find it kind of deceptive to say "no sugar added" and contains "sugar alcohols"...so I avoid them more or less in favor of unsweetened products which I sweeten myself if needed. For our sweetening needs we've adapted to bulk Stevia. 1 tsp of this stuff is equivalent to 1 cup of sugar in sweetening power. We have experimented (using my wifes still functional pancreas) to find this ratio. Other packaged Stevias are not as sweet, or have bulkening agents like maltodextrin. I don't knock Splenda, it seems to do what it says. I just prefer a little more naturally obtained sweetener whenever possible. My wife, aka SugarQueen, is also making the switch to non-sugar sweeteners although not without some wicked withdrawals. Andrew T2 > On Jan 19, 4:56 pm, "Robert Miles" <robertmi...@bellsouthNOSPAM.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 98 lines] > > Andrew T2 Sugar alcohols are between sugar and alcohol. There are some people who neither spike on them not experience their laxative effects, but not everyone. They're often make from sugar. : I am fuzzy on the whole sugar alcohol thing. Is it a sugar? Is it an : alcohol? Is it a sugar made from alcohol or an alcohol made from [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] : to non-sugar sweeteners although not without some wicked : withdrawals. : Andrew T2 Stevia, which is banned in Europe, is not approved for sweetening here in teh US so i hesitate to use it. If you tink of natural as better, remember that deadly nightshade, a cousin of potatoes, peppers, eggplant, is very toxic. Nature is not always kindly. Wendy >Have you tried Oroweat Double Fibre? It's 10 grams net. I've also run >across one or two other brands with similar breads. I've also recently >found low carb flour tortillas - about 4 grams net. I like Sara Lee Delightful Multi-Grain, and as you say, the low carb flour tortillas are decent too. Cheri > Have you tried Oroweat Double Fibre? It's 10 grams net. I've also run > across one or two other brands with similar breads. I've also recently > found low carb flour tortillas - about 4 grams net. That bread used to be a lot lower in carbs. They reformulated it about 6 or 8 months ago. We now use Nature's Own Light Wheat. it's 14 grams net for *two* slices. It tastes okay, too. Makes nice toast.  SignatureJanet Wilder Bad spelling. Bad punctuation Good Friends. Good Life >> Have you tried Oroweat Double Fibre? It's 10 grams net. I've also run >> across one or two other brands with similar breads. I've also recently [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > or 8 months ago. We now use Nature's Own Light Wheat. it's 14 grams net > for *two* slices. It tastes okay, too. Makes nice toast. Out of curiosity, is that because the slices are smaller? >>> Have you tried Oroweat Double Fibre? It's 10 grams net. I've also run >>> across one or two other brands with similar breads. I've also recently [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Out of curiosity, is that because the slices are smaller? No. They are the usual size. SignatureJanet Wilder Bad spelling. Bad punctuation Good Friends. Good Life I eat brownberry carb counting multi grain bread with 9 total and 6 net per slice. Tasty stuff! KROM > Hey, peeps! Long time, no post. I haven't fallen off the wagon or > been doing anything spectacular, so I've just been hanging around in [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > Andrew T2, A1C 5.5 (Other changes for 2008, I ditched the beer for > red wine. The meter made me do it!) > I eat brownberry carb counting multi grain bread with 9 total and 6 net per > slice. [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > Andrew T2, A1C 5.5 (Other changes for 2008, I ditched the beer for > > red wine. The meter made me do it!) I don't recall seeing that brand anywhere. I'm in Northern California. I guess carb counting hasn't caught on up here. Andrew T2 On Jan 17, 9:38 pm, hood...@yahoo.com wrote: > > I eat brownberry carb counting multi grain bread with 9 total and 6 net per > > slice. [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > Andrew T2 I eat the Sara Lee Delightful wheat bread (in moderation.) 9g total carbs and 45 calories per slice. It's nothing like my home-made bread, but at least I can eat it... *sigh* Sean Too spongee for me. Will buy if the brownberry is out. KROM "Sean" <spk_gbv@msn.com> wrote I eat the Sara Lee Delightful wheat bread (in moderation.) 9g total carbs and 45 calories per slice. It's nothing like my home-made bread, but at least I can eat it... *sigh* Sean > On Jan 17, 9:38 pm, hood...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I haven't seen that. Is it truly "delightful"? Andrew T2 Sean wrote in message ... On Jan 17, 9:38 pm, hood...@yahoo.com wrote: > On Jan 17, 9:26 pm, "krom" <thekromremoverem...@hotmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > > > Hey, peeps! Long time, no post. I haven't fallen off the wagon or > > > been doing anything spectacular, so I've just been hanging around in > > > the background, lurking. Recently my wife (a certified carbaholic) > > > came across a recipe for "low carb" bread and has been dying to try it > > > on me. > > > > So I had 2 slices on an empty stomach. > > > > Tested before (108), at 20 mins (118) and at 1 hour (112). I felt > > > this was a successful recipe (it was really good) it looked and tasted > > > just like regular wheat bread you'd buy at the store. I've tried in > > > vain to find any low carb bread at the supermarket so I was pretty > > > much resigned to a life without bread. It has been months since I've > > > had anything remotely resembling the light, fluffy, crusty on the > > > outside, spongy on the inside--you know...bread. Anyway, you'd have > > > to have a clue about how to make bread to make the recipe work but > > > here it is for anyone with the time and the jones on for some low carb > > > grain products. I still won't make bread a staple anytime soon, as I > > > really have gotten used to my veggies, salads, meat and cheese dishes. > > > But for a once in a while treat--- [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > > > Andrew T2, A1C 5.5 (Other changes for 2008, I ditched the beer for > > > red wine. The meter made me do it!) > > I don't recall seeing that brand anywhere. I'm in Northern > California. I guess carb counting hasn't caught on up here. > > Andrew T2 I eat the Sara Lee Delightful wheat bread (in moderation.) 9g total carbs and 45 calories per slice. It's nothing like my home-made bread, but at least I can eat it... *sigh* Sean ++++++ I like the multi-grain better than the wheat, but as you say, it's decent enough to eat. Is there anything in the world as good as real home-made bread? I think not. :-) Cheri http://www.brownberry.com/ There ya go! KROM > I don't recall seeing that brand anywhere. I'm in Northern > California. I guess carb counting hasn't caught on up here. > > Andrew T2 > http://www.brownberry.com/ > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> >> Andrew T2 I eat Ezekiel Bread. I buy it at a health food store, but it is now showing up in some of the "mainstream" grocery stores. Ezekiel Bread has 14 grams of carb per slice, but it does not have any effect on my meter whereas even a single slice of whole wheat bread used to send it skyrocketing. It is a flourless bread made from unsprouted grains. Incidentally, it definitely does not taste like the homemade bread my mother used to make! At first, it tasted "stale" or "cardboardy," but I have gotten used to it since I no longer eat any other bread. I also use it toasted most of the time, and I greatly prefer it that way. MaryL hoodyup@yahoo.com wrote in message <4e58da4a-8c8e-465d-8707-f08f0ddc3ba8@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>... >> I eat brownberry carb counting multi grain bread with 9 total and 6 net per >> slice. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >> <hood...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:cad676b1-966f-4881-91e5-ac3f19fc2c89@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com ... >> > Hey, peeps! Long time, no post. I haven't fallen off the wagon or >> > been doing anything spectacular, so I've just been hanging around in [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > >Andrew T2 I'm in Northern California too. They do carry the Sara Lee Delightful breads in most supermarkets and Wal-Mart, but I haven't seen the bread that Krom mentioned here either. I like Sara Lee brand, but others aren't that crazy about it, so it is definitely a YMMV. Your wifes' recipe sounds good too. Cheri > hood...@yahoo.com wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 86 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I will keep an eye out for it, but since my wife's bread is so yummy I may just try to "help" her with her carb addiction by sticking with her home made bread. Fresh is best. Plus you can see what's going into it. It has the added benefit of giving her some exercise kneading the dough! Andrew T2 >I eat brownberry carb counting multi grain bread with 9 total and 6 net per >slice. > > Tasty stuff! I eat Pepperidge Farms Carb Style. 8 grams per slice, 3 grams fiber (net 5). Tastes like decent bread to me. > >I eat brownberry carb counting multi grain bread with 9 total and 6 net per > >slice. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I eat Pepperidge Farms Carb Style. 8 grams per slice, 3 grams fiber (net > 5). Tastes like decent bread to me. Pepperidge Farms used to be some good snackin' b4 my DX. I'm glad they have a low carb offering, too. Andrew T2 : > >I eat brownberry carb counting multi grain bread with 9 total and 6 net per : > >slice. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : > I eat Pepperidge Farms Carb Style. ?8 grams per slice, 3 grams fiber (net : > 5). ?Tastes like decent bread to me. : Pepperidge Farms used to be some good snackin' b4 my DX. I'm glad : they have a low carb offering, too. : Andrew T2 Unfortunately, most of these breads are no longer caried in my local stores. I can only get the Arnolds light breads which have about 9 grams of net carbs and the slices are fairly small, thin abd not dense enough, you know, kind of floaty awayey. There used to be several others, but they have all disappeared. Wendy >Hey, peeps! Long time, no post. I haven't fallen off the wagon or >been doing anything spectacular, so I've just been hanging around in >the background, lurking. Recently my wife (a certified carbaholic) >came across a recipe for "low carb" bread and has been dying to try it >on me. Hey, Andrew - good to see you, and nice to see you're doing well. Thanks for your recipe! I use a similar one, replacing the soy with either buckwheat, spelt or rye flour depending how I feel. In fact you've just inspired me to go and make another batch - I slice and freeze it, and I think I'm out... Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 > From: Nicky <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> > Newsgroups: alt.support.diabetes [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > you've just inspired me to go and make another batch - I slice and > freeze it, and I think I'm out... I envy you guys. The problem with low carb bread is that it is still full of gluten. I'm gluten intolerant in addition to being diabetic, and so there isn't any bread that fits my needs. It's a lose/lose situation. I have learned to live without bread, but it's hard. If I were diagnosed with some disease which would give me just 6 months to live, I would pig out on bread, and to hell with the rest! Donna Evleth > > From: Nicky <ukc802466...@btconnect.com> > > Newsgroups: alt.support.diabetes [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Donna Evleth Sorry to hear about your condition. I could live without bread, too. I still would dip, even if I had no veggies or anything. But it's hard not to bite my finger, it tastes so good! If I had 6 months to live I'm thinking brownies and Kahlua milkshakes....:-p Andrew T2 Donna Evleth wrote in message ... >have learned to live without bread, but it's hard. If I were diagnosed with >some disease which would give me just 6 months to live, I would pig out on >bread, and to hell with the rest! > >Donna Evleth Damn straight...real home-made bread. :-) Cheri > >Hey, peeps! Long time, no post. I haven't fallen off the wagon or > >been doing anything spectacular, so I've just been hanging around in [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > D&E, 100ug thyroxine > Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 Wuzzup! I've been on kind of cruise control, but I keep up with the NG cuzz I just can't seem to stay away. Hope y'all R doin' great in '08. I'm glad I found a bread I can tolerate because there's this dip I used to like (minced garlic, olive oil and balsamic vinegar) and it's hard to dip with no bread. This is a really good cold remedy for the winter, but just make sure everyone in the house has some, or the ones that don't will be slightly offended at the ones that do. If everyone has some it's fair game. Andrew T2 : > >Hey, peeps! ?Long time, no post. ?I haven't fallen off the wagon or : > >been doing anything spectacular, so I've just been hanging around in [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] : > D&E, 100ug thyroxine : > Last A1c 5.6% ?BMI 25 : Wuzzup! I've been on kind of cruise control, but I keep up with the : NG cuzz I just can't seem to stay away. Hope y'all R doin' great in [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] : ones that don't will be slightly offended at the ones that do. If : everyone has some it's fair game. : Andrew T2 Jusst for you-you can use raw vegetbles, particularly cucumber slices or celery, but also cauliflower or brocolli, pepper strips, etc with dips. You don't have to give p your dips because you don't want to eat bread or crackers. Wendy > hood...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Wendy Doh! And I was wondering why I kept coming up with air whenever I'd try to dip without a dipping device. Swish...(misses the dip by inches yet again!) Andrew T2 "Nicky" <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> a écrit ... > Hey, Andrew - good to see you, and nice to see you're doing well. > Thanks for your recipe! I use a similar one, replacing the soy with [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > D&E, 100ug thyroxine > Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 Do you ship abroad ? ..what are your minimum order levels like ? ;)) > Tested before (108), at 20 mins (118) and at 1 hour (112). I felt > this was a successful recipe (it was really good) it glad you were able to find a bread you can eat.. but at those testing times, and bread being a slower acting carb, that the 20min test hadn't even gotten into your system yet, more then likely neither did the 1hr.. so I'd bet to say you were much higher at 2hrs. then again, it's very possible that your diabetes hasn't progressed very far and you still have quite a bit of good natural insulin still working and since you've gained control and no longer have high glucose that your system has returned to normal. that certainly is one main advantage T2's have over T1's. rk, t1 **my post is only to let 'newbies' know that it takes 15-20mins for fast carbs to get into your system therefore, slow carbs wouldn't hit your system at 20mins, therefore, that pretty much is a wasted test and gives false data and a false sense of security that the food eaten is okay. : > Tested before (108), at 20 mins (118) and at 1 hour (112). I felt : > this was a successful recipe (it was really good) it : glad you were able to find a bread you can eat.. but at those testing : times, and bread being a slower acting carb, that the 20min test [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] : has returned to normal. that certainly is one main advantage T2's have : over T1's. : rk, t1 : **my post is only to let 'newbies' know that it takes 15-20mins for fast : carbs to get into your system therefore, slow carbs wouldn't hit your system : at 20mins, therefore, that pretty much is a wasted test and gives false data : and a false sense of security that the food eaten is okay. I think that is to get FULLY into your system in 15-20 mins. I know htat if I drink OJ and test as soon as I drink it I am bhigh adn spiking. I learned this the hard way, when I forgot to test before breakfast in my early days after dianosis, realized it while drinking the OJ(had not yet been told not to drink juice), immediately tested and found a very high reading. Wendy > : <hoodyup@yahoo.com> wrote in message > : [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > been told not to drink juice), immediately tested and found a very high > reading. My experience also Wendy. The ingredients in Hoody's bread would have more to do with the lack of spike than anything else. > > : <hood...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > : [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > My experience also Wendy. The ingredients in Hoody's bread would have more > to do with the lack of spike than anything else. Thanks, Ozgirl. I kind of figured out my peak times for different foods a few months ago and I tested quite frequently back then. Now I do pre, 20 min PP, 1 hour PP and occasional 2 hour PP (if the 1 hour is not sufficiently lower) only when trying something new. My wife loves bread, so this was compromise so that we can both eat less carbs. With this bread you don't get the "carb rush" feeling that comes with normal flour type breads. I kinda miss that rush, like they say "carbs are a helluva drug". My fave carb overload was baked potatoes. If the ever come out with a low carb version, let me know :- P Andrew T2 Easy..bake the potato normal...steam some cauliflower and scoop the potato innards out and mash 50-50 with the cauliflower and replace the hollow with the new mixture and top with butter and enjoy. I eat the faux mashed taters and get no spikes at all and it tastes the same. Some can eat just mashed cauliflower but the taste and texture grosses me out the 50-50 mix is a good solution. KROM <hoodyup@yahoo.com> wrote My fave carb overload was baked > potatoes. If the ever come out with a low carb version, let me know :- > P > > Andrew T2 In alt.support.diabetes on Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:51:29 -0600 in Msg.# > Easy..bake the potato normal...steam some cauliflower and scoop the potato > innards out and mash 50-50 with the cauliflower and replace the hollow with [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Some can eat just mashed cauliflower but the taste and texture grosses me > out the 50-50 mix is a good solution. I'd rather just have a real baked potato once a year. <G> SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel RIP John Stewart of Kingston Trio fame. RIP Suzanne Pleshette See TCruz RE Scien**logy before it disappears: http://tinyurl.co.uk/nl1x Yeah but this tastes the same to me zero spike so i can eat it whenever i want..lol KROM "DonnaB shallotpeel" <shallotpeel@comcast.net> wrote > > I'd rather just have a real baked potato once a year. <G> > Yeah but this tastes the same to me zero spike so i can eat it whenever i > want..lol [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > I'd rather just have a real baked potato once a year. <G> The old scoop out the mashed potatoes and substitute low carb mashed cauliflower trick. Gets 'em every time. Thanks, Cheif! A T2 >Yeah but this tastes the same to me zero spike so i can eat it whenever i >want..lol [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >"DonnaB shallotpeel" <shallotpeel@comcast.net> wrote > >> I'd rather just have a real baked potato once a year. <G> I have a small (ping-pong ball size) baked spud in it's jacket with roast dinner about once a week. I found that a large dollop of sour cream or a large dab of butter not only adds to the flavour but helped with smoothing out the BG's. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Latest: The Diabetes Revolution? I like my faux mashed taters over thick beef stew aka shepards pie and just on a plate with cheese and bacon bits..heck i just like it..lol. KROM >>Yeah but this tastes the same to me zero spike so i can eat it whenever i >>want..lol [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com > Latest: The Diabetes Revolution? : I like my faux mashed taters over thick beef stew aka shepards pie and just : on a plate with cheese and bacon bits..heck i just like it..lol. : KROM I had some this weekend with roast chicken and gravy. I use just the caulifower adn whap it up in the food processor adn add some Smart Balance no transfat margarine. Tastes wonderful! Wendy Yep! I mash mine by hand cause i like lumps..i had porkchops whith the faux taters. I hace to use real potato with mine tho cause plain mashed cauliflower is gross..lol. KROM > : I like my faux mashed taters over thick beef stew aka shepards pie and > just [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Wendy >I hace to use real potato with mine tho cause plain mashed cauliflower is >gross..lol. Mashed with creme frais, I think it's gourmet... My BIL is very suspicious about the whole low-carb thing, and normally won't touch anything I do just for me. But they were round for dinner, and I cooked roast beef, with a big bowl of mashed cauli alongside all the other veggies and roast potatoes. I was running around, and forgot to tell everyone what they were; he had thirds, convinced they were a great new way of mashing potatoes, until he noticed I was eating it too and asked what he was eating :P Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 LOL..funny! Poor BIL... You have tainted him with gross veggies! Now he will have to turn in his he man veggie haters card. KROM >>I hace to use real potato with mine tho cause plain mashed cauliflower is >>gross..lol. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > D&E, 100ug thyroxine > Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 >LOL..funny! >Poor BIL... >You have tainted him with gross veggies! >Now he will have to turn in his he man veggie haters card. He thinks he hates garlic, too <evil grin> Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 Yer ebil!..EBIL! heh i like it! KROM >>LOL..funny! >>Poor BIL... [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > D&E, 100ug thyroxine > Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 "Nicky" <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> a écrit ... >>I hace to use real potato with mine tho cause plain mashed cauliflower is >>gross..lol. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > D&E, 100ug thyroxine > Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 Now I just HAVE to get an invite to Nickys place ... ;)) >"Nicky" <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> a écrit ... >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >Now I just HAVE to get an invite to Nickys place ... >;)) checking the daily planner.. fwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwip fwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwip Not in January 2008 fwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwip fwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwip fwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwip all booked up in February 2008 fwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwip fwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwip fwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwip fwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwip fwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwip fwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwip fwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwip fwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwip fwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwip fwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwip fwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwip fwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwip fwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwip fwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwip fwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwip fwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwip fwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwip fwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwip fwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwipfwip There doesn't seem to be an opening until Aprl 1st 2022 But if you slip me a couple of hundred as a tip I am sure someone could be bumped from the schedule.... I am a food critic for ASD monthly and will be taking that last open spot... KROM >>"Nicky" <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> a écrit ... >>> [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > But if you slip me a couple of hundred as a tip I am sure someone > could be bumped from the schedule.... >I am a food critic for ASD monthly and will be taking that last open spot... > >KROM I would be happy to feed any of you if you're in the area. But Mack, I want a cut of your commission fees :D Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 No no! We gotta keep nicky's fine dining exclusive..we cant just let anyone in! KROM >>I am a food critic for ASD monthly and will be taking that last open >>spot... [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > D&E, 100ug thyroxine > Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 >No no! >We gotta keep nicky's fine dining exclusive..we cant just let anyone in! > >KROM Restrictions may apply: Kurt, RK, and Gantlet have to eat in the sound proof booth: http://tinyurl.com/94fuh Chung has to eat at 500 miles away from any human, small fuzzy animals or anyone or anything with an IQ about 3. More rules to follow. SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/type1and2/ http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" http://www.ratbags.com/dechunging/ "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:48:02 -0600, "krom" <thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> wrote: >No no! >We gotta keep nicky's fine dining exclusive..we cant just let anyone in! > >KROM Restrictions may apply: Kurt, RK, and Gantlet have to eat in the sound proof booth: http://tinyurl.com/94fuh Chung has to eat at least 500 miles away from any human, small fuzzy animals or anyone or anything with an IQ above 3. More rules to follow. SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/type1and2/ http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" http://www.ratbags.com/dechunging/ "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . On Jan 23, 7:57�pm, M�ck�� <I...@OneWithTheGoddess.org> wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:48:02 -0600, "krom" > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Restrictions may apply: Kurt, RK, and Gantlet have to eat in the sound > proof booth:http://tinyurl.com/94fuh Please leave me out of your high school sci-fi nerdfest. Kurt >On Jan 23, 7:57?pm, M?ck?? <I...@OneWithTheGoddess.org> wrote: >> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:48:02 -0600, "krom" [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Kurt absolutely not, you are fair game. SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/type1and2/ http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" http://www.ratbags.com/dechunging/ "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . >>On Jan 23, 7:57?pm, M?ck?? <I...@OneWithTheGoddess.org> wrote: >>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:48:02 -0600, "krom" [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > absolutely not, you are fair game. So are you for your 1st grade behavior. But no one expects anything more out of you... or does it just make you feel like a BIG man attacking others at every turn? I guess you have no real feelings for your fellow man or woman for that matter. How very Christian of you to purposefully attack others just to see how much you can hurt them. I certainly hope you have a real good feeling about yourself. I certainly wouldn't want to be you if that's what it takes to feel good. Have a nice life! rk, t1 who doesn't attack first! only is forced to defend! > "M�ck��" <I...@OneWithTheGoddess.org> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > a real good feeling about yourself. �I certainly wouldn't want > to be you if that's what it takes to feel good. �Have a nice life! Most of Macks posts lately have nothing to do with diabetes or even the discussion at hand. They are filled with mean-spirited criticisms and lame childish insults. Ironically, most of what he posts in these rants applies more to him than the people he is screaming at. Kurt >So are you for your 1st grade behavior. But no one expects >anything more out of you... or does it just make you feel like [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >rk, t1 >who doesn't attack first! only is forced to defend! are you overmedicated today? your memory of past events has been extremely clouded and befuddled lately. SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/type1and2/ http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" http://www.ratbags.com/dechunging/ "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . On Jan 25, 11:59�am, M�ck�� <I...@OneWithTheGoddess.org> wrote: > >So are you for your 1st grade behavior. But no one expects > >anything more out of you... or does it just make you feel like [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > are you overmedicated today? �your memory of past events has been > extremely clouded and befuddled lately. This is perhaps the lowest and most desperate form of insult in a medical issue related newsgroup, support or otherwise. In the past when someone plays the medication or disease card when attacking another in here it is, and should be, met with outrage by the rest of the community. I won't hold my breath waiting for that on Reisa's post but I for one think Mack has crossed the line even more than usual. Truly inexecusable. Kurt >On Jan 25, 11:59?am, M?ck?? <I...@OneWithTheGoddess.org> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >Kurt One thing we tend to forget is that the stress of diabetes will finally have a bad effect on the victim. I do know I have to step back and look at myself. We witness a lot of that here. It is bad because the person affected does not realize they are off base. None of us are immune to the ravages of diabetes. I try to make allowances and to attack the general behaviors and to not hit the individual. At times it is hard to post to avoid hurting a few people.. but it is necessary to question some concepts showing up here. It is the prerogative of anyone to post any item But most of us like to look at all sides and then to try to sort it out. That is the only way that we learn. Remember a hit on our head can alter your ability to deal with the world. I have observed so many cases of this. Advanced age does not help but a few of us still know that, For how long????. The Internet seems to bring our the worst in some people. It creates a diversion from the purpose of ASD and MHD > On Jan 25, 11:59�am, M�ck�� <I...@OneWithTheGoddess.org> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >rk, t1 >> >who doesn't attack first! only is forced to defend! FOMCROTFLMSAO!!!! <hands out hip boots and shovels to everyone because the bullshit is getting DEEP!> Luckily there IS a treatment for schizophrenia and/or MPD. >> are you overmedicated today? �your memory of past events has been >> extremely clouded and befuddled lately. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > post but I for one think Mack has crossed the line even more than > usual. Truly inexecusable. Pot...kettle....black Get the picture? SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email >> On Jan 25, 11:59?am, M?ck?? <I...@OneWithTheGoddess.org> wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Luckily there IS a treatment for schizophrenia and/or MPD. Could have a field day in the archives couldn't ya ;) I've been there and the posts full of unprovoked insults are too many to fit here. Whats funny is she demands proof.. and tons of posts appear showign HER words..and she either runs away or claims we altered google..lol. Ahh well her world. KROM > Could have a field day in the archives couldn't ya ;) > > I've been there and the posts full of unprovoked insults are too many to > fit here. > Whats funny is she demands proof.. and tons of posts appear showign HER > words..and she either runs away or claims we altered google..lol. That is the way people like her are. Attack, and run like hell. And someone explain to me just how the hell can we ALTER Google. It's a non editable, archive database. We can edit it in a post sure, but all anyone has to do is do a search the archive to verify the authenticity. Most be nice to think you are worth people going to all that trouble over huh? > Ahh well her world. Bizzaro world, yeah...<shaking head> SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email >> Could have a field day in the archives couldn't ya ;) >> >> I've been there and the posts full of unprovoked insults are too many to >> fit here. >>> On Jan 25, 11:59?am, M?ck?? <I...@OneWithTheGoddess.org> wrote: >>>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Could have a field day in the archives couldn't ya ;) Good lord yes. > I've been there and the posts full of unprovoked insults are too many to > fit here. Got that right!!! SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email I gues she forgets her unprovoked attacks on type two's calling them fake diabetics becasue if they would stop shoving doritos down thier faces they would be diabetics and other lovely gems she spouts.. They remind me of politicians in that they will behave one way then will speak as if THEY were the offended party. It is like they are playing to the crowd which is odd since they claim theres nobody here but sockpuppets... KROM >>So are you for your 1st grade behavior. But no one expects >>anything more out of you... or does it just make you feel like [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > are you overmedicated today? your memory of past events has been > extremely clouded and befuddled lately. In alt.support.diabetes on Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:54:51 -0600 in Msg.# > They remind me of politicians in that they will behave one way then will > speak as if THEY were the offended party. > > It is like they are playing to the crowd which is odd since they claim > theres nobody here but sockpuppets... Bwa Ha Ha HA, well, maybe they hope they can get the dadgummed sock puppets programmed to applaud if they keep at it long enough. SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel, T2 since June 06, USA "Whenever someone annoys me, I create a file with his or her name on it & drag it to my Mac's trash icon. If I'm really angry, I empty the trash & whoever was bugging me disappears into the void." - Margo Kaufman Could be..lol KROM > In alt.support.diabetes on Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:54:51 -0600 in Msg.# > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > puppets > programmed to applaud if they keep at it long enough. > I gues she forgets her unprovoked attacks on type two's calling them fake > diabetics becasue if they would stop shoving doritos down thier faces they [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > It is like they are playing to the crowd which is odd since they claim > theres nobody here but sockpuppets... I spit my drink all over my new LCD when I read that BS line about not attacking first. I have her dippy a.s KF'd, but glad someone quoted it because I needed the laugh. Kind of sad that someone is THAT delusional though. Mack might have been wrong though. More likely she didn't take the meds for the schizophrenia she suffers from. SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email >>>So are you for your 1st grade behavior. But no one expects >>>anything more out of you... or does it just make you feel like [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> are you overmedicated today? your memory of past events has been >> extremely clouded and befuddled lately. I wish this crap would stop. It does not fit here. I am a bit guilty but much less than some. I do not give a s h i T about this juvenile behavior here. Nothing seems to stop it so let be blunt. The person that keeps this going has the problem. Technical issues are being perverted to a bunch of garbage. Some show more interest in sexual deviation than diabetic issues. If you disagree on some diabetic issue. get off of your a.s and do your homework and present you case with factual data Sensible peopke will try to make the group into a pleasant experience. Others want to fight for no sensible reason. To operate as a group it is necessary to give others some slack and stop the INSANE baiting crap.. It is obvious some are not here as diabetic but here as lost souls tryng to find a niche. Here they can be a big shot and tell others off. Again, get off of your a.s and do your homework. Then there will be real discussions which can work. Will you accrue any respect if all you can do is bait others. Your problem is most people will not listen to you for any good reason. I am and always was a dumb a.s but some of the crap artists make me feel so "smart". The operation of a small group to gang up ony anyone is shitty . I have never found that mutual admiration clans serve any good purpose. This was/is a diabetic group that needs a bit of tolerance and friendly exchanges. At time it as operated that way and it was a pleasure.. >I gues she forgets her unprovoked attacks on type two's calling them fake >diabetics becasue if they would stop shoving doritos down thier faces they [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> are you overmedicated today? your memory of past events has been >> extremely clouded and befuddled lately. I seriously suggest that if reading usnet upsets you so much that you step away fro your own health. This group will NEVER be what you wish it to be as thats just not possible..sorry but thats the fact. As i have said before guy your desire to control group should be thought of like this : A person starts off going to the corner bar..he knows everyone and knows the owner so he can behave as he wishes and can chase off those he dislikes..right or wrong... Then the bar is sold and is turned into a football stadium...and theres the barfly mad his 50 cent beers now cost 5 bucks and are watered down and not his brand and is screaming at all the fans to shut up so he can talk politics to his oldtime pals. The same is true of usnet..sure when i was into bbs/usnet 10 years ago there was far fewer people and so groups were like the corner bar..small and ruled by the few..times change and with more people and availabilty to the net comes spam and the attention seekers you complain about. The question to ponder is what if those who ruled the roost THEN are the attention seekers and because they were in charge nobody called em out on it? The guy at the game screaming about that he wants to discuss politics simply appears to be a nut. Instead of complaints and lectures guy..why not do the very thing you demand we all do and YOU talk diabetes..the issue then becomes what is diabtetes discussions?..if its just the disease then we can simply post one post with a definition and every now and then add a coment on new drugs or treatment and walk away.. But since this IS a support group and NOT a medical board i put forth that Any issue important to the diabetic PERSON is valid and worthy of discussion. In other words guy when you wifes friend died we were all here to support you and her and one could say well thats not a medical discussion of diabetes..nor is ciphilis or worms or many other topics you post about .. So im gently suggesting guy you relax..conversate with us here and give and get support and discuss diabetic medical things you wish on a moderated board if thats what your seeking. Of course you do as you wish..im just trying to be a friend/support to you. KROM <guys@consolidated.net> wrote > > I wish this crap would stop. It does not fit here. I am a bit > guilty but much less than some. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > and friendly exchanges. At time it as operated that way and it > was a pleasure.. guys@consolidated.net wrote in message ... >The operation of a small group to gang up ony anyone is >shitty . I have never found that mutual admiration clans [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >and friendly exchanges. At time it as operated that way and it >was a pleasure.. Well, you're the one who started a separate thread about Reisa, so what do you expect? I'll let Reisas' words speak for themselves as to what she thinks about your doing this very thing. Reisa posted: >LOL I've YET to see guy post on any thread other then making > his own.. Often I think he just enjoys the individual attention and > likes to stand out in a crowd. > I've bitched about his starting of new threads that > make NO SENSE whatsoever because he doesn't reference anything.. so >to me, it's just an old man bitching cuz his panties are in a bunch. > He would be MUCH MORE value if he'd keep ON-TOPIC in > the same thread... But you know what they say... "Can't teach an >old dog new tricks...." RK, t1 </rant over> "rk" <rkhaha@gotcha.com> wrote in message news:0M- > How very Christian of you to purposefully attack others just > to see how much you can hurt them. I certainly hope you have > a real good feeling about yourself. As good as the feeling you got about yourself when tried to hurt as many people as possible in a very short period of time and in public? As Mack said your memory of past events is very clouded. You have also attacked Guy viciously in the past, ditto Tom and many others. What a f.cking hypocrite. > "rk" <rkh...@gotcha.com> wrote in message news:0M- > > How very Christian of you to purposefully attack others just [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > said your memory of past events is very clouded. You have also attacked Guy > viciously in the past, ditto Tom and many others. What a f.cking >hypocrite. No outrage about Mack's comment playing the "overmedicated" card? Figures. Hey, I'd respect you a bit if you at least criticized him a little for that mean-spirited attack even if you weren't moved to throw an f-bomb in to punctuate your outrage. But then again, you recently tried to justify calling her a pig...so your moral thermometer seems to have lost its mercury. Both you and Mack have said much worse things to people in this newsgroup than Reisa ever has. You might want to think again about who deserves the title of "hypocrite"...of even "f.cking hypocrite." Kurt In alt.support.diabetes on Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:34:04 -0800 (PST) in Msg.# <6ccf74ff-49f0-4faa-8f4d-9f903ca7f9a1@i3g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, Kurt <kurtwheeling1965@hotmail.com> wrote: > Both you and Mack have said much worse things to people in this > newsgroup than Reisa ever has. You might want to think again about > who deserves the title of "hypocrite"...of even "f.cking hypocrite." If they have, it was before I arrived here. SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel, T2 since June 06, USA "You cannot compromise an artist's vision." - Ed Wood On Jan 25, 5:43�pm, DonnaB shallotpeel <shallotp...@comcast.net> wrote: > In alt.support.diabetes on Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:34:04 -0800 (PST) in Msg.# > <6ccf74ff-49f0-4faa-8f4d-9f903ca7f...@i3g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, Kurt [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > If they have, it was before I arrived here. Donna, did this newsgroup truly exist with any relevancy *before* you arrived? :) > "You cannot compromise an artist's vision." - Ed Wood "This story's gonna grab people. It's about this guy, he's crazy about this girl, but he likes to wear dresses. Should he tell her? Should he not tell her? He's torn, Georgie. This is drama." - Edward D. Wood, Jr. Kurt > "You cannot compromise an artist's vision." - Ed Wood >"This story's gonna grab people. It's about this guy, he's crazy about >this girl, but he likes to wear dresses. Should he tell her? Should he >not tell her? He's torn, Georgie. This is drama." - Edward D. Wood, >Jr. ?????? This is drama? This is nonsense. This is also supremely irrelevant. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. In alt.support.diabetes on Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:12:43 -0800 (PST) in Msg.# <f68756e5-f0f6-454e-8f03-04ba7607cb83@m34g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, Kurt <kurtwheeling1965@hotmail.com> wrote: > On Jan 25, 5:43?pm, DonnaB shallotpeel <shallotp...@comcast.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Donna, did this newsgroup truly exist with any relevancy *before* you > arrived? :) From what I hear it did. I'm sure you understand that a person can only attest to the time they've been present, though, despite your seeming to pretend that you missed the point here. SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel, T2 since June 06, USA "Women do two thirds of the world's work ... Yet they earn only one tenth of the world's income & own less than one percent of the world's property. They are among the poorest of the world's poor. " - Barber B. Conable, Jr. Same..ive been PERSONALLY attacked by rk gantlet and kurt..so my feelings about posters is based on how they treated me..ive never been attacked by anyone else even when we disagree. KROM > In alt.support.diabetes on Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:34:04 -0800 (PST) in Msg.# > <6ccf74ff-49f0-4faa-8f4d-9f903ca7f9a1@i3g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, Kurt [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > If they have, it was before I arrived here. > Same..ive been PERSONALLY attacked by rk gantlet and kurt..so my feelings > about posters is based on how they treated me..ive never been attacked by > anyone else even when we disagree. Indeed. I have had disagreements with Donna and Grandpa Chuck in the past, but we were adult enough to get past all of that. Unfortunately there are always a few that just can't play well with others no matter what. What's worse is when they cry and whine because the actually think THEY are the innocent parties. Man it must be nice to live in a fantasy world where you get to decide how things are supposed to be. Alas, the rest of us are forced to live in the REAL world. SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email >> In alt.support.diabetes on Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:34:04 -0800 (PST) in Msg.# >> <6ccf74ff-49f0-4faa-8f4d-9f903ca7f9a1@i3g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, Kurt [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >> If they have, it was before I arrived here. Heck im still wiling to play nice with em if they are nice to me..as i am with kurt..he and i dont butt heads much at all ...and ive been nice to gantlet when he was feeling bad..and its not like i hate anyone..i just feel its a waste of time to talk to rk because shes never been civil to me ever..<shrug> KROM >> Same..ive been PERSONALLY attacked by rk gantlet and kurt..so my feelings >> about posters is based on how they treated me..ive never been attacked by [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >>> >>> If they have, it was before I arrived here. > Heck im still wiling to play nice with em if they are nice to me..as i am > with kurt..he and i dont butt heads much at all ...and ive been nice to > gantlet when he was feeling bad..and its not like i hate anyone..i just > feel its a waste of time to talk to rk because shes never been civil to me > ever..<shrug> That is pretty much the consensus of the group. If they would learn to play nice with others, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. But until such time as they can do that, people like rk are nothing but a waste of space. I don't HATE her or anyone for that matter, but just have zero tolerance for smacktards. SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email >>> Same..ive been PERSONALLY attacked by rk gantlet and kurt..so my >>> feelings about posters is based on how they treated me..ive never been [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >>>> >>>> If they have, it was before I arrived here. >> Heck im still wiling to play nice with em if they are nice to me..as i am >> with kurt..he and i dont butt heads much at all ...and ive been nice to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > waste of space. I don't HATE her or anyone for that matter, but just have > zero tolerance for smacktards. She also gets very nasty when it is pointed out she has made a mistake with information. Most people accept it when they are told they are mistaken. And this crap about people only being here xyz amount of time and think they know everything gets up my craw. There is no time limit on learning things. Some learn quickly, some can be here 6 years and still get it all wrong. Of course the referral to real diabetics is also a nasty pill. On Jan 25, 4:30?pm, "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_...@maccas.com> wrote: > "rk" <rkh...@gotcha.com> wrote in message news:0M- > > How very Christian of you to purposefully attack others just [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > viciously in the past, ditto Tom and many others. What a f.cking > >hypocrite. No outrage about Mack's comment playing the "overmedicated" card? Figures. Hey, I'd respect you a bit if you at least criticized him a little for that mean-spirited attack even if you weren't moved to throw an f-bomb in to punctuate your outrage. But then again, you recently tried to justify calling her a pig...so your moral thermometer seems to have lost its mercury. Both you and Mack have said much worse things to people in this newsgroup than Reisa ever has. You might want to think again about who deserves the title of "hypocrite"...of even "f.cking hypocrite." ----------------- And you might want to consider why you defend friends who write and do despicable things. Yes Reisa has written despicable things, now and in the past and you choose to turn it back on the person complaining about it. How far do YOU let friends go without pulling away? Says a lot about YOUR morals. Like the example posted recently where Reisa ripped into Guy a while back. Where was your moral outrage then? You were in this group at the time. So while we are on the subject, you are a f.cking hypocrite too. As to Mack, he is giving nothing to Reisa that she hasn't given to him. I have seen far worse come out of her mouth about him and without provocation. Unfortunately there is a history here and there is far more that happened behind the scenes than what you see here but what has been seen in here should be enough for a decent person to walk away from and not defend. > On Jan 25, 4:30?pm, "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_...@maccas.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > scenes than what you see here but what has been seen in here should be > enough for a decent person to walk away from and not defend. You mean like you're doing? You seem to have Mack syndrome...the inability to practice what you preach. But I will tell you this. I'm walking away from this thread...in 5-4-3-2-... Kurt >You mean like you're doing? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Kurt I'll believe that when I see it. Of course, now it will happen:-) Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Latest: The Diabetes Revolution? >>You mean like you're doing? >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Of course, now it will happen:-) But of course it will Alan, because that means he doesn't have to answer WHY he continues to support someone he knows is wrong. SOOOOOO very convenient for him, huh? Signature |
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