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zzzxtreme@gmail.com - 16 Jan 2008 02:50 GMT
hello,
is it possible to check early signs of diabetes with checking sugar
level in urine? how is it done? can it be done at home? checking blood
freaks me out, because of my serology. don't wanna anyone to
accidentally use the same needle
zzzxtreme@gmail.com - 16 Jan 2008 02:53 GMT
oh sorry i was confused. I'm thinking of checking urine sugar to check
health of kidney, is it related to diabetes in anyway? thanks

On Jan 16, 10:50 am, "zzzxtr...@gmail.com" <zzzxtr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> hello,
> is it possible to check early signs of diabetes with checking sugar
> level in urine? how is it done? can it be done at home? checking blood
> freaks me out, because of my serology. don't wanna anyone to
> accidentally use the same needle
Julie Bove - 16 Jan 2008 03:20 GMT
oh sorry i was confused. I'm thinking of checking urine sugar to check
health of kidney, is it related to diabetes in anyway? thanks

If you have diabetes, you should have your kidneys checked.  They do not
check for sugar in the urine, but protein.
zzzxtreme@gmail.com - 16 Jan 2008 02:59 GMT
sorry for the multiple most,

another question is, is it possible to have high sugar in blood, but
no sugar found in urine?

On Jan 16, 10:50 am, "zzzxtr...@gmail.com" <zzzxtr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> hello,
> is it possible to check early signs of diabetes with checking sugar
> level in urine? how is it done? can it be done at home? checking blood
> freaks me out, because of my serology. don't wanna anyone to
> accidentally use the same needle
Julie Bove - 16 Jan 2008 03:20 GMT
sorry for the multiple most,

another question is, is it possible to have high sugar in blood, but
no sugar found in urine?

Yes.
Julie Bove - 16 Jan 2008 03:19 GMT
> hello,
> is it possible to check early signs of diabetes with checking sugar
> level in urine? how is it done? can it be done at home? checking blood
> freaks me out, because of my serology. don't wanna anyone to
> accidentally use the same needle

Checking urine is an old fashioned and very much outdated method.  By the
time there is sugar in your urine, your blood sugar has been waaay too high
for too long and your body has likely sustained damage.

I don't know what serology is so I can't help you there.  And you don't use
needles to check your blood.  You use lancets.  Yeah, they're sharp, but not
exactly needles.  They're also very cheap.  If done at a lab, they always
change the lancet between patients and use an alcohol swab as an added
precaution.

If you do it at home, you can change lancets if you choose.  Most of us use
the same one for days, weeks or even months before changing because it is
more comfortable and far less painful to use an old one.  If you test
someone else, you need to put in a new one for them and then a fresh one for
you.

I used to be very freaked out about checking my blood.  Didn't ever think I
could do it.  Now it's no big deal.
Màck©® - 16 Jan 2008 03:55 GMT
>hello,
>is it possible to check early signs of diabetes with checking sugar
>level in urine? how is it done? can it be done at home? checking blood
>freaks me out, because of my serology. don't wanna anyone to
>accidentally use the same needle

a home Blood Glucose testing kit does not use needles, like on a
syringe.  It uses "lancets" held in a pen style lancet device.  If you
have that much fear of someone ignorantly picking it up and sticking
themselves with it, it would take a real moron or a child who wasn't
told the rules, the lancets are extremely cheap and easily and safely
disposable.

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Oleg Lego - 16 Jan 2008 04:02 GMT
>hello,
>is it possible to check early signs of diabetes with checking sugar
>level in urine? how is it done? can it be done at home? checking blood
>freaks me out, because of my serology. don't wanna anyone to
>accidentally use the same needle

I'd advise seeing a doctor and asking him or her if you might be
diabetic or pre-diabetic. If, for some reason, you cannot or will not
do this, read on.

If you know any diabetics living or working near you, you might want
to ask one of them if you can use one of their meters, and for advice
as to when and how to use it.

The procedure is simple, and regardless of your serology, perfectly
safe for both you and the person allowing you to use a meter, provided
you take normal precautions with the liquid blood. The following
description is accurate for most meters. Some are different in the
manner of packaging of the test strips. I offer the following only to
reassure you of the simplicity and safety of the procedure.

First, a new lancet should be installed in the blood sampler. The
lancet will be sterile. You then place a strip in the meter, which
will turn it on. You then cock the sampler, place it against either
the side or pad of a (clean) fingertip, then press the trigger.

Massaging the finger will bring a drop of blood to the surface of the
skin. Bring the end of the test strip to touch the drop of blood. The
meter will take a few seconds (mine takes 5 seconds, and shows a
countdown), then give you a reading. You can then remove and discard
the strip, using normal precautions for liquid blood.

After you have taken all the samples you need (I'd suggest at least
two; one before eating in the morning, and one two hours after a
meal), you should remove the used lancet and discard it in a sharps
container, and the meter owner can replace it with a new lancet.

You can ask the meter owner about the results, or you can post them
here for comment.

We (well, most of us) are not doctors, and will not presume to
diagnose you, though we might suggest how much urgency you should
employ in making an appointment with a doctor.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 16 Jan 2008 04:10 GMT
> hello,
> is it possible to check early signs of diabetes with checking sugar
> level in urine?

Elevated sugar level in the urine would be a late sign rather than
early sign of type-2 diabetes.

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthy

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
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% - 16 Jan 2008 04:17 GMT
>> hello,
>> is it possible to check early signs of diabetes with checking sugar
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>
> Andrew <><

i'm never hungry
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 16 Jan 2008 04:38 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> i'm never hungry

That would mean that you are never healthy.

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeHealthy

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

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微笑 - 17 Jan 2008 03:36 GMT
A silly troll wrote:
> > i'm never hungry
>
> That would mean that you are never healthy.

In my case, an exceptionally healthy athletically fit individual with
a BMI of 20 and perfect numbers across the board, never being hungry
means that I eat six small highly notorious (very tasty) meals a day
along with high potency vitamins and proper fluids. If a person eats
6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 pounds of the wrong kind of food and fluids - that
person will always be hungry. It's not nearly as much about quantity
as it is about quality. Go to youtube, type in "nutrition" for
starters, and educate yourself.
Cheri - 17 Jan 2008 03:44 GMT
΢Ц wrote in message
<437a3dfb-79a4-49ac-bcc1-e7163cfc9b30@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com>...
>A silly troll wrote:
>> > i'm never hungry
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>as it is about quality. Go to youtube, type in "nutrition" for
>starters, and educate yourself.

Tell me what a "highly notorious" meal tastes like. I need to be
educated. :-)

Cheri
Oleg Lego - 17 Jan 2008 04:38 GMT
>΢Ц wrote in message
><437a3dfb-79a4-49ac-bcc1-e7163cfc9b30@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com>...
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>Tell me what a "highly notorious" meal tastes like. I need to be
>educated. :-)

Methinks the spalling chucker flailed him.

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percy - 17 Jan 2008 21:23 GMT
>> ΢Ц wrote in message
>> <437a3dfb-79a4-49ac-bcc1-e7163cfc9b30@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com>...
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Methinks the spalling chucker flailed him.

Not at all! Notorious would be a nice big piece of filet of beef,
wrapped in bacon, grilled blue-rare and bordelaise poured over, with
some steamed veggies (min. 2 kinds), sauteed mushrooms and a big salad
on the side, with a small sweet potato for starch.

That's notorious.
Adding a piece of Ferrero Rocher cake afterwards would be obscene. ;-)
JMO...

Vicki
Cheri - 17 Jan 2008 22:16 GMT
percy wrote in message ...

>Not at all! Notorious would be a nice big piece of filet of beef,
>wrapped in bacon, grilled blue-rare and bordelaise poured over, with
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Vicki

LOL

Cheri
DarkSentinel - 18 Jan 2008 09:43 GMT
>>> ΢Ц wrote in message
>>> <437a3dfb-79a4-49ac-bcc1-e7163cfc9b30@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com>...
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> Adding a piece of Ferrero Rocher cake afterwards would be obscene. ;-)
> JMO...

Oh thanks a LOT!!
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Ozgirl - 17 Jan 2008 10:17 GMT
> ΢Ц wrote in message
> <437a3dfb-79a4-49ac-bcc1-e7163cfc9b30@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com>...
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Tell me what a "highly notorious" meal tastes like. I need to be
> educated. :-)

lol
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Jan 2008 04:40 GMT
satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> In my case, an exceptionally healthy athletically fit individual with
> a BMI of 20 and perfect numbers across the board, never being hungry...

You are undead, satan.

You have no health because you have no life.

This simply shows that you remain the source of all lies as it is
written in Scripture.

May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to rebuke you at each GOD-
given opportunity as GOD want:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan

<><

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Hunger is wonderful :-)

It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish however:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
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J666 - 18 Jan 2008 05:25 GMT
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

> You have no health because you have no life.

And if you have no life, you are dead so a question of health is
ridiculous.

Wonder if the worms in the ground follow the Worm Approach in eating
buried bodies?
zzzxtreme@gmail.com - 18 Jan 2008 08:23 GMT
your comments encourages apostasy
On Jan 18, 12:40 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed:
>
[quoted text clipped - 64 lines]
> Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com
> Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Jan 2008 11:26 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed:
[quoted text clipped - 56 lines]
> >
> > Amen.

> your comments encourages apostasy

Not for the discerning.

<><
Robert Miles - 16 Jan 2008 18:46 GMT
>>> hello,
>>> is it possible to check early signs of diabetes with checking sugar
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> i'm never hungry

Answer him if you want fewer answers from the rest of us.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 16 Jan 2008 19:16 GMT
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Answer him if you want fewer answers from the rest of us.

Psalm 118:8 comes to mind here:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
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Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
Jeff - 16 Jan 2008 05:07 GMT
> hello,
> is it possible to check early signs of diabetes with checking sugar
> level in urine? how is it done?

Sort of. Usually, the blood sugar rises before the sugar in urine. When
blood passes through the kidneys, the fluid in the blood gets filtered
out into the tubules in the kidneys. The kidneys then reabosrb the sugar
from the filtrate. What isn't absorbed is excrete as urine. The tubules
can only absorb so much sugar, so if the blood sugar is above 200 or so,
 the urine contains sugar, below this, no sugar is in the urine.

So it is much better to test for both blood sugar. An alternative is
having your a1c (alpha 1-c henoglobin) levels tested. This serves as an
average level of your blood sugar over about a 3 month time. This can
only be done in the lab (you can test for your sugar at home with a
blood sugar testing kit you can buy at a drug store).

> can it be done at home? checking blood
> freaks me out, because of my serology. don't wanna anyone to
> accidentally use the same needle

You need to have proper needle disposal methods.

Jeff
zzzxtreme@gmail.com - 16 Jan 2008 06:46 GMT
thank you all so much for the prompt reply!
On Jan 16, 10:50 am, "zzzxtr...@gmail.com" <zzzxtr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> hello,
> is it possible to check early signs of diabetes with checking sugar
> level in urine? how is it done? can it be done at home? checking blood
> freaks me out, because of my serology. don't wanna anyone to
> accidentally use the same needle
 
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