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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / January 2008PHISOHEX was a disaster
Many years a soap called PHISOHEX was touted very highly. It used hexachlorophene as an antibacterial agent. It worked very well on the odor causing gram positive bacteria. However it was not effective against the problem gram negative bacteria. This led to some serious skin problems. I think it was banned i the early 1060's. I think a soap called PHISODERM is still on the market. it is a mild soap i am from the old days and have been involved with home soap making. These soaps were very effective but since they were made from scrsp hog meat and lye, they were very alkaline. The military was pusing them durng the Korean war. A mild soap probably serves most the best. For laundry heat is your friend but hard on some wash items. There is no one answer. Each person must learn from ytheir experieces. TV Ad's are a ooor source of advice. Wow, a name from the past I remember that soup. I used it in the sixties when I had acne. It was a very strong substances and dried out the skin. Loretta > Wow, a name from the past I remember that soup. I used it in the > sixties when I had acne. It was a very strong substances and dried out > the skin. I used it too. I think it was prescription. On 1/13/08 5:14 PM, in article 7Iyij.1331$rG.114@trndny02, "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote: >> Wow, a name from the past I remember that soup. I used it in the >> sixties when I had acne. It was a very strong substances and dried out >> the skin. > > I used it too. I think it was prescription. When my daughter was born that is what they used to bathe babies in the hospital. How times change. I think it was about 4 or 5 years later they took it off the market. When I was young and had acne my dermatologist wouldn't allow phisohex but made me use phisoderm which was the same thing minus hexachlorophene.  SignatureMartha T2 Canada 1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia "Loretta Eisenberg" <sassybklynlady@webtv.net> a écrit ... > Wow, a name from the past I remember that soup. I used it in the > sixties when I had acne. It was a very strong substances and dried out > the skin. > > Loretta You used SOUP on your skin ? > Many years a soap called PHISOHEX was touted very highly. It is still made and sold. It is also used by surgeons and nurses before during surgery. http://products.sanofi-aventis.us/phisohex/phisohex.html Jeff <...> >> Many years a soap called PHISOHEX was touted very highly. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Jeff ><...> I would;not be surprised if it is still used. It was not effective against gram negative bacteria. That was it's shortcoming. I have several surgical cleaning solutions on hand. Most of them are some iodine based solution. The main advantage of PHISOHEX was it inhibited the odor producing bacteria that made us stink. It was a variation of PHISODERM which is a good mild cleaner. I have no idea why is use by surgeons today. Contamination of Hospital facilities comes up frequently. The Grand Central Station nature of hospital facilities today is accepted. It was not that way before antibiotics were available. I have had three major surgeries and I came out of the facility two times with a bit of added problems. A couple of weeks I was in for a couple of days of tests. Came out with a minor.respiratory problem. I think there is a greater problem than the overuse of antibiotics On 1/14/08 5:16 AM, in article pgJij.8798$W73.4836@trnddc04, "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote: >> Many years a soap called PHISOHEX was touted very highly. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Jeff > <...> Not here. Both it and Phisoderm were banned. SignatureMartha T2 Canada 1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia > On 1/14/08 5:16 AM, in article pgJij.8798$W73.4836@trnddc04, "Jeff" > <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> <...> > Not here. Both it and Phisoderm were banned. Let's see: I have found a web site showing that Phisohex is still being sold. How about you show that Phisohex is banned? As one can readily find, Phisohex the FDA banned it in most soaps, shampoos, etc., however, it is still used in hospitals to scrub up before surgery. I have used it myself. It was essentially banned from over the counter sales, but is used by doctors and nurses before surgery and is available by prescription. Have a good day. Jeff >> On 1/14/08 5:16 AM, in article pgJij.8798$W73.4836@trnddc04, "Jeff" >> <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >>> Jeff >>> <...> >> Not here. Both it and Phisoderm were banned. >Let's see: I have found a web site showing that Phisohex is still being >sold. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Have a good day. >Jeff The person saying "Not here. Both it and Phisoderm were banned" was not from the USA, hence the "Not here" part. Her signature was "Martha T2 Canada". Regulations vary from country to country. US FDA regulations don't apply there. They have their own. >>> On 1/14/08 5:16 AM, in article pgJij.8798$W73.4836@trnddc04, "Jeff" >>> <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Regulations vary from country to country. US FDA regulations don't > apply there. They have their own. Thanks. I completed missed that. Interestingly, though, Phisohex is still available in Canada, probably by prescription only: <http://www.sanofi-aventis.ca/live/ca/en/layout.jsp?scat=526069AB-1A0D-49BB-87BB- 310894DBE97E> >>>> On 1/14/08 5:16 AM, in article pgJij.8798$W73.4836@trnddc04, "Jeff" >>>> <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >by prescription only: ><http://www.sanofi-aventis.ca/live/ca/en/layout.jsp?scat=526069AB-1A0D-49BB-87BB- 310894DBE97E> Yes, it's a prescription-only item. SignatureLarry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada. DX 24 Aug 07. D&E Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 "Harold Groot" <quester@infionline.net> a écrit ... > The person saying "Not here. Both it and Phisoderm were banned" was > not from the USA, hence the "Not here" part. Her signature was > "Martha T2 Canada". > > Regulations vary from country to country. US FDA regulations don't > apply there. They have their own. Amazing ! Soon countries will have their own flavour of democracy. THAT will not please Bush, Cheney et al ONE BIT. ;)) > Many years a soap called PHISOHEX was touted very highly. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > This led to some serious skin problems. I think it was banned > i the early 1060's. Phisohex was the soap from Hell and was aptly named with the suffix HEX. Doctors were all recommending it--everyone was using it--it was as popular the Hoola Hoop. Then we found out that washing the heads of infants caused some serious damage (brain damage maybe?). It was apparently the hexachlorophene. Again the Hex BUT now used as a prefix. The soap looked and smelled terrible and dried your skin to leather. Well, I just checked. Phisohex is still out there. It's made by Sanofi Aventis--the producer of Lantus. Here's a list of the warnings: Note the caution on using it on infants: WARNINGS RINSE THOROUGHLY AFTER EACH USE. Patients should be closely monitored and use should be immediately discontinued at the first sign of any of the symptoms described below. Rapid absorption of hexachlorophene may occur with resultant toxic blood levels when preparations containing hexachlorophene are applied to skin lesions such as ichthyosis congenita, the dermatitis of Letterer-Siwe's syndrome, or other generalized dermatological conditions. Application to burns has also produced neurotoxicity and death. pHisoHex SHOULD BE DISCONTINUED PROMPTLY IF SIGNS OR SYMPTOMS OF CEREBRAL IRRITABILITY OCCUR. (Oh yeah...you want to avoid cerebral irriation for sure) Infants, especially premature infants or those with dermatoses, are particularly susceptible to hexachlorophene absorption. Systemic toxicity may be manifested by signs of stimulation (irritation) of the central nervous system, sometimes with convulsions. -------------------------------- Glad to be steering clear of the HEX. Uncle Enrico |
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