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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / March 2008No insulin yet.
Saw my GP a few weeks ago and he ranted about my high BG and said I would need to get put on insulin but that he wasn't going to do it. Was going to let my Endo. do that and he was certain the Endo. would do it. I was not so certain. Finally got those labs back today. A1c was 7.8. For this particular lab, it says goal is 7.0 or < and if 8.0 or >, consider treatment regimen modifications. Odd thing is though, that lab (at a different hospital than my Endo.) always has higher numbers than the Endo. Last time I was 7.8 at that lab and 7.1 at the other. Endo. today didn't take any labs since these were so newly done. He also mulled it over for a while and said no insulin for me just yet. Said Byetta was not an option given my gastroparesis. Kinda thought that given what I'd read about it. Said insulin would cause me to gain weight and I've been gaining lately already and he's not liking it. So... Here I am once again. GP will probably be angry at me for not going on insulin. Endo. told me just to do the best I can to get my numbers down. Kind of hard given my limited diet. Gastroparesis limits what I can eat and the food allergies limit it further. Am down to eating 2 meals a day and taking in less calories than ever. And yet I am gaining weight. Told me to try to exercise more. Also kind of hard to do given my disability and other medical problems. Blah!!! > Saw my GP a few weeks ago and he ranted about my high BG and said I would > need to get put on insulin but that he wasn't going to do it. Was going to [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Blah!!! Julie, you really need to aggressively educate yourself and your doctor about Cushing's; many Cushing's patients gain weight while eating at starvation levels, due to the increase in cortisol caused by starvation. This isn't just diabetes you're dealing with, but you're being allowed to fail, you now have liver damage (elevated ALT) to add to your loss of kidney function and gastroparesis and your doctors are doing exactly NOTHING and you're settling for it. There, I've said it again. I promised myself I wouldn't. Feel free to ignore. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > Susan She has almost the same symptoms and problems as I do, and I have Chushing's. It amazes me how much Julie and I run along neck and neck. It is hard to treat these other two problems, gastroparesis and the MG swallowing, and yet be super carb conscious. Ragdoll Billie http://andlifegoesononedayonestepatatime.blogspot.com/ Striving for a world without Myasthenia Gravis http://www.myasthenia.org/amg_whatismg.cfm >> x-no-archive: yes >> [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > It is hard to treat these other two problems, gastroparesis and the MG > swallowing, and yet be super carb conscious. I haven't got MG, but I do have GERD and things tend to get stuck in my throat easily. I have to really cut my food into small pieces and chew it well. >>> x-no-archive: yes >>> [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > throat easily. I have to really cut my food into small pieces and chew it > well. I was responding to Susan's comment on the Cushing's. > Julie, you really need to aggressively educate yourself and your doctor > about Cushing's; many Cushing's patients gain weight while eating at [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Feel free to ignore. The reason for the weight gain is I am no longer throwing up. When the gastroparesis was really bad, I couldn't keep any food down for weeks on end. I lost weight. My Drs. didn't care "why" I lost weight, they were just happy that I did. I think at least this one *finally* listened to me when I explained to him for the umpteenth time why it was that I lost weight. He does not think I have Cushing's. And I don't think ALT necessarily means liver damage. I had elevated liver enzymes before and an Ultrasound showed that it was due to a fatty liver. Nothing much I can do about that except lose weight. If I ever do lose weight. At any rate, I am not worried about the amount of weight I have gained. It's only a few pounds and well within the amount I would normally gain at "this time" of the month. For as long as I can remember, my weight has fluctuated by as much as 10 pounds either way, pretty much on a daily basis. I haven't even gained *that* much this time. My Drs. are annoying though. I weigh 1 pound less than the time I did before and they get all excited. I gain a pound and they chastise me. And now that I'm thinking about it, I didn't even bother to wear my "lightweight" clothing. I actually weighed several outfits of clothing and shoes. The outfit I had on probably accounted for the weight gain. *sigh* > The reason for the weight gain is I am no longer throwing up. When the > gastroparesis was really bad, I couldn't keep any food down for weeks on > end. I lost weight. My Drs. didn't care "why" I lost weight, they were > just happy that I did. I think at least this one *finally* listened to me > when I explained to him for the umpteenth time why it was that I lost > weight. If you're not eating enough to gain weight, not throwing up shouldn't be the only reason. > He does not think I have Cushing's. And I don't think ALT necessarily means > liver damage. I had elevated liver enzymes before and an Ultrasound showed > that it was due to a fatty liver. Nothing much I can do about that except > lose weight. If I ever do lose weight. Fatty liver IS liver damage!!! Milk thistle will often reverse it; did mine. Also, getting the cortisol under control will reverse it. Your endo doesn't *think*, period. > At any rate, I am not worried about the amount of weight I have gained. > It's only a few pounds and well within the amount I would normally gain at [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > several outfits of clothing and shoes. The outfit I had on probably > accounted for the weight gain. *sigh* Julie, seriously, weight is the LEAST of your problems. At a young age, you have progressed to the very advanced stages of DM complications and your DM doesn't respond in traditional ways because in all likelihood, IR isn't your problem, adrenal abnormalities likely are. Have you had an adrenal C-T scan with contrast, ever? Ever had a Tesla 1.5 or better pituitary MRI read by a neurosurgeon, instead of a radiologist? Not one endo ever suspected my DM or my Cushing's and adrenal hyperplasia, not even when I got fatty liver and PCOS in mid life for the first time. The mortality rate for these conditions, allowed to progress by an ignorant doc and a passive patient is HIGH, and you have a young child with many of your same problems. It's not diabetes, Julie. It doesn't act like diabetes, for that reason. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > It's not diabetes, Julie. It doesn't act like diabetes, for that reason. Nope. I haven't had those things done. I will ask my GP about it. The Endo. doesn't think I have it, for a variety of reasons and he has told me those reasons. > "Susan" <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote in message > > [ . . . ] [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Endo. doesn't think I have it, for a variety of reasons and he has told > me those reasons. My diabetician, nephrologist and cardiologist constantly consult with each other and order whatever tests they feel appropriate. They don't work for an insurance company or health care provider. I'm covered by Medicare, with my PPO as supplemental and I pick up the balance.  SignatureNick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families! I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~ > My diabetician, nephrologist and cardiologist constantly consult with each > other and order whatever tests they feel appropriate. They don't work for > an insurance company or health care provider. I'm covered by Medicare, with > my PPO as supplemental and I pick up the balance. Exactly the same with DH's care but no balance other than beginning of the year deductables. Julie, I don't know why you are so terrified about the insulin. DH did gain some weight in the beginning, but the endo, cardio and internist were expecting it. It took about a year but he eventually lost most of it. Since being put on insulin (on the pump for over a year) his numbers are so much more consistent. He has not had an A1C over 5.5 and has a little more freedom in food choices. Though we still eat low-carb, there is always the ability to "cover" for special occasions that is not there with orals. He has had a handful of lows, but most of the time we handle them. Only one time, when I thought he was sleeping from a sleeping pill and didn't waken him then found I couldn't waken him, did we have to call in the troops. Endo gave us an RX for a glucogon pen and they taught me to use it. I wouldn't think the initial (and usually temporary) weight gain from insulin would be a reason to not start insulin if your BS's are so high. I'd worry more about the damage to your system than the few extra pounds from taking insulin. JMHO, but I think you should run, don't walk, to another physician. SignatureJanet Wilder Bad spelling. Bad punctuation Good Friends. Good Life >> My diabetician, nephrologist and cardiologist constantly consult with >> each [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > always the ability to "cover" for special occasions that is not there with > orals. I didn't say I was terrified about insulin. I said my Dr. won't put me on it because it will make me gain weight. He doesn't WANT me to have more food choices, but to eat less food. And I certainly wouldn't use it for special occasions. > He has had a handful of lows, but most of the time we handle them. Only > one time, when I thought he was sleeping from a sleeping pill and didn't [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I'd worry more about the damage to your system than the few extra pounds > from taking insulin. I don't think with most type 2's, weight gain from insulin is initial and temporary. And I produce WAY too much of my own insulin so hyperinsulimia (sp?) is another concern. > JMHO, but I think you should run, don't walk, to another physician. No other options for Endos. > "Janet Wilder" <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > [ . . . ] > > JMHO, but I think you should run, don't walk, to another physician. > > No other options for Endos. Then move! SignatureNick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families! I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~ >> "Janet Wilder" <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> > [ . . . ] [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Then move! We own our house. Not an option. >>> "Janet Wilder" <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> > [ . . . ] [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > We own our house. Not an option. Can't you sell it? >>>> "Janet Wilder" <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>> > [ . . . ] [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> We own our house. Not an option. > Can't you sell it? Well, no. It's not like it's all that easy to just sell a house and move. Especially since we just got it! You do realize it costs money to sell a house, right? And to move. Plus I do not WANT to move. My husband has a job in this area. It's not like he's going to go get some other job somewhere else. Daughter is in a good school and good dance school. >>>>> "Janet Wilder" <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>> > [ . . . ] [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > job in this area. It's not like he's going to go get some other job > somewhere else. Daughter is in a good school and good dance school. Speaking of hubby, has he seen the oncologist yet? >>>>>> "Janet Wilder" <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>>> > [ . . . ] [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Speaking of hubby, has he seen the oncologist yet? No. He goes back to the Urologist in something like 3 weeks. He might get the referral then. Unlike me, he can't just go wherever he wants (provided they take his insurance). He has to get referrals and authorizations first. >>>>>>> "Janet Wilder" <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> > [ . . . ] [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > (provided they take his insurance). He has to get referrals and > authorizations first. Same here, we need referrals but for cancer the doctors refer you and make the bookings like within a week of getting a diagnosis, as in within a week to get to actually see the oncologist. Time is off the essence. I would be making lots of noise. In alt.support.diabetes on Tue, 8 Jan 2008 17:48:51 +1100 in Msg.# <13o679klqeqho02@news.supernews.com>, "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote: > >> Speaking of hubby, has he seen the oncologist yet? > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > to get to actually see the oncologist. Time is off the essence. I would be > making lots of noise. I think it's unheard of for a patient to leave the hospital after cancer removal surgery & not have them there then begin expedited referrals! SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel "Words fascinate me. They always have. For me, browsing in a dictionary is like being turned loose in a bank." - Eddie Cantor, Best Quote of the Day Yahoo Mailing List, July 2004 > In alt.support.diabetes on Tue, 8 Jan 2008 17:48:51 +1100 in Msg.# > <13o679klqeqho02@news.supernews.com>, "Ozgirl" [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > I think it's unheard of for a patient to leave the hospital after cancer > removal surgery & not have them there then begin expedited referrals! Ha! Not with the military. Several days after he got home from the hospital, the military Dr. called and said, "I heard you had an operation..." >> In alt.support.diabetes on Tue, 8 Jan 2008 17:48:51 +1100 in Msg.# >> <13o679klqeqho02@news.supernews.com>, "Ozgirl" [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > hospital, the military Dr. called and said, "I heard you had an > operation..." Was it a military hospital? If not, all bets are off, the doctors would treat him as any other patient. > Was it a military hospital? If not, all bets are off, the doctors would > treat him as any other patient. No. However, the insurance he has is such that the Dr. can not just give the referral. He has to do that and then wait for authorization. He could not get his tests done because they had not authorized them. He spent all day on the phone himself getting this straightened out before they could see him. My insurance (same company, but different kind) is not this way. I do not need a referral for anything. I merely call, ask if they take my insurance, and if they do, I make an appointment. He can not so much as make a follow-up appointment unless it is okayed first. >>>>>>>> "Janet Wilder" <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> > [ . . . ] [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > week to get to actually see the oncologist. Time is off the essence. I > would be making lots of noise. There's nothing they can do at this point. They got all the visible cancer out. Dr. said they would have to wait 2-3 years before there would be enough (if there was any at all) to detect. Said any amounts that are there now would be minute. >>>>>>>>> "Janet Wilder" <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> > [ . . . ] [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > be enough (if there was any at all) to detect. Said any amounts that are > there now would be minute. I find the doctor's attitude mind boggling and if I were hubby not something I would be prepared to take, even from an oncologist, which the surgeon would not have been. Kidney cancer has a good prognosis if caught early, a mass the size of his didn't get there overnight so not caught early. And even if it did then that would make it an aggressive cancer, one that had to be treated sooner rather than later. You also mentioned there was lymph involvement. Radiotherapy and chemo are there to kill off what they can't actually detect at this point, it's not a wait and see kind of thing. My niece had a brain tumour which doctors thought had probably been growing nearly all her life but only got large enough at 40 to cause problems. Radiotherapy shrunk it enough for her to continue a normal life for quite a few years, as surgery was not possible considering the vital functions that part of the brain controlled. Last year a doctor decided it was possible to operate. The mere act of removing the tumour which was a rough edged one, not encapsulated, triggered a rapid growth of the cancer cells, she died a few months later. I would hate to see anyone just accept what your hubby has been told. > I find the doctor's attitude mind boggling and if I were hubby not > something I would be prepared to take, even from an oncologist, which the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > what they can't actually detect at this point, it's not a wait and see > kind of thing. There was NO lymph involvement but it had spread to the surrounding fat. He said chemo is highly ineffective against this kind of cancer but would see what the oncologist said. > My niece had a brain tumour which doctors thought had probably been > growing nearly all her life but only got large enough at 40 to cause [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > cells, she died a few months later. I would hate to see anyone just accept > what your hubby has been told. That's too bad. >> I find the doctor's attitude mind boggling and if I were hubby not >> something I would be prepared to take, even from an oncologist, which the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > He said chemo is highly ineffective against this kind of cancer but would > see what the oncologist said. Huh? This was your report when it was found he had cancer: "It was cancer. Had spread to the lymph nodes and surrounding several inches of fat. Dr. got all that but doesn't know if it has spread anywhere else. He has to go to the oncologist for that. So far that's all we know." >>> I find the doctor's attitude mind boggling and if I were hubby not >>> something I would be prepared to take, even from an oncologist, which [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > anywhere else. > He has to go to the oncologist for that. So far that's all we know." Yes. But then when I met with the Dr., he said it had NOT spread to the lymph nodes. So what my husband told me was not true. He still thinks he does not have to go to the oncologist and nobody can convince him otherwise. In alt.support.diabetes on Tue, 8 Jan 2008 18:31:59 +1100 in Msg.# <13o69p4hjdn0j45@news.supernews.com>, "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote: > My niece had a brain tumour which doctors thought had probably been growing > nearly all her life but only got large enough at 40 to cause problems. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > few months later. I would hate to see anyone just accept what your hubby has > been told. That's fairly, and unfortunately, common, isn't it? That when they cut & go in, it is actually spread? SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel "Why not try & see positive things, to just touch those things & make them bloom?" - Thich Nhat Hanh > In alt.support.diabetes on Tue, 8 Jan 2008 18:31:59 +1100 in Msg.# > <13o69p4hjdn0j45@news.supernews.com>, "Ozgirl" [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > go > in, it is actually spread? That's what I have always heard being said all my life and now it looks like it is for real. > I don't think with most type 2's, weight gain from insulin is initial and > temporary. It's a weird thing, but I lost weight the first couple months on insulin. Personally, I attribute this to having to be more thoughtful about what I eat in order to dose the insulin. > And I produce WAY too much of my own insulin so hyperinsulimia > (sp?) is another concern. It's always an issue with T2s, insulin resistance means we need more insulin than normal to control bg, whether it's homemade or injected. IMO, minimizing insulin use is a good thing. Signaturehttp://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/ >> I don't think with most type 2's, weight gain from insulin is initial >> and temporary. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Personally, I attribute this to having to be more thoughtful about what > I eat in order to dose the insulin. It could also have something to do with insulin's inhibitory effects on cortisol levels. Susan >> It's a weird thing, but I lost weight the first couple months on insulin. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > It could also have something to do with insulin's inhibitory effects on > cortisol levels. Now that I think about it, it could be a lot of things. The year before insulin, I never saw a bg reading under 300. No telling how many biochemical systems were screwed up with that going on, just normalizing probably helped a great deal. Signaturehttp://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/ >> I don't think with most type 2's, weight gain from insulin is initial and >> temporary. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Personally, I attribute this to having to be more thoughtful about what I > eat in order to dose the insulin. I am on an extremely limited diet due to gastroparesis and food allergies. Insulin isn't going to change those options. >> And I produce WAY too much of my own insulin so hyperinsulimia (sp?) is >> another concern. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > IMO, minimizing insulin use is a good thing. Yes. In alt.support.diabetes on Sun, 06 Jan 2008 05:26:45 GMT in Msg.# > I said my Dr. won't put me on > it because it will make me gain weight. He doesn't WANT me to have more > food choices, but to eat less food. How many calories does he want you to limit yourself to? SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel "Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton Wilson > In alt.support.diabetes on Sun, 06 Jan 2008 05:26:45 GMT in Msg.# > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > How many calories does he want you to limit yourself to? He didn't say and I didn't ask. I told him how much I was eating (or not eating as the case may be) and he said I must be taking in more calories than I think. Part of the problem is that I am eating things like pumpkin seeds and chia seeds that people are not familiar with. Not really a problem for *me* but a problem when I tell them what I am eating. At my size which is currently hovering right there at the blurred line between overweight and obese, people just assume I am eating tons of food. My mom even said I must be a closet eater since I almost always turn down the snacks at her house. Angela and I go over there once a week and we have lunch and dinner there...or more likely out somewhere. I don't eat breakfast on those days. So she sees what I eat. And don't eat. The dietician had me on 1,200 calories a day. I was losing weight at first on that diet but then quit losing weight and had to increase the amount I ate to more like 1,500 to be able to continue to lose. But with my gastroparesis it is near impossible for me to take in that many calories or eat three meals a day. And while some people would say it couldn't be so... I seem to need a certain amount of calories in my system. If I take in less, I tend to gain weight. Exception being when I was throwing up anything and everything for several weeks on end and then I did lose some. Also... I think the gastroparesis in and of itself can cause a weight gain of a pound or three due to the stomach retaining food for up to three days or so at a time. > At any rate, I am not worried about the amount of weight I have gained. > It's only a few pounds and well within the amount I would normally gain at [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > several outfits of clothing and shoes. The outfit I had on probably > accounted for the weight gain. *sigh* IMO, wrt to weight loss, doctors don't know much. My last endo appointment, the nurse practitioner exclaimed I had lost 10 lbs on only 4 weeks of Symlin. wonderful! But I have weighed myself often enough to know that +/- 5 lbs is nothing. I was up 5 at one appointment, down 5 at the next, that's just normal water weight for me. I *know* I can lose or gain that overnight, it's not "real" weight loss. On the other hand, if she wants to be excited, more power to her. I am just not gonna be excited along with her until I see something I consider real myself. Signaturehttp://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/ >> At any rate, I am not worried about the amount of weight I have gained. >> It's only a few pounds and well within the amount I would normally gain [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > just not gonna be excited along with her until I see something I consider > real myself. Yep. And if I stop exercising, I lose weight. >>> At any rate, I am not worried about the amount of weight I have gained. >>> It's only a few pounds and well within the amount I would normally gain [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Yep. And if I stop exercising, I lose weight. Speaking of exercise, have you ever looked into Tai Chi? It is extremely low impact, yet so very calming, and clearing/centering. Like you I have a lot of crap wrong. Severe Lumbar Stenosis from L1-L12 caused by my spine getting compressed in a roll-over. Also reason I'm 6'3 instead of 6'4"...lol Three ops on my lower back. Picture an additional 4" of butt crack..;), which damaged my sciatic. Right leg is 2" shorter than my left due to due to my ankle getting destroyed flaying football. Picture your leg being turned into a V at the ankle, and being able to see the bottom of your foot while your leg is straight out. Both pinky toes broken. Right hip is wasted because of the length differential. Right knee has been scoped due to a torn ACL. Left knee has been dislocated and had a 17" monitor dropped on. Ugliest bruise I have ever had. Color was just nasty. Broken fingers, and left elbow. Three ribs broken in that roll over. Last metacarpal on right hand has been broken twice, and is curved because I told my football coach to break my cast off because the ref wouldn't let me play with it on...:) Left shoulder dislocates if ya look at it wrong. Lastly, my right shoulder crunches when I moved it. Was separated in the roll-over too. This doesn't even cover the minor stuff. My back is also getting over that mixture of Lopid and Zocor. As the youngsters would say, my skeleton is "SERIOUSLY f*cked up Jack!" LOL So I guess what I am trying to say, is that if I can do it, just about anyone can. Yes there days my back and lower legs hurt so bad I want to cut them off, but when I can, those slow fluid movements just put me in my happy place, especially when I add my meditation music/sounds. Ask your doc what he thinks. I think you would like it. SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email > Speaking of exercise, have you ever looked into Tai Chi? It is extremely > low impact, yet so very calming, and clearing/centering. Like you I have a > lot of crap wrong. Severe Lumbar Stenosis from L1-L12 caused by my spine > getting compressed in a roll-over. Also reason I'm 6'3 instead of > 6'4"...lol My dad tried it. Said it was very boring. I don't think it would be for me. Especially if it has to be done standing. I have to do seated exercises. > Three ops on my lower back. Picture an additional 4" of butt crack..;), > which damaged my sciatic. Right leg is 2" shorter than my left due to due [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > mixture of Lopid and Zocor. As the youngsters would say, my skeleton is > "SERIOUSLY f*cked up Jack!" LOL That doesn't sound good. > So I guess what I am trying to say, is that if I can do it, just about > anyone can. Yes there days my back and lower legs hurt so bad I want to > cut them off, but when I can, those slow fluid movements just put me in my > happy place, especially when I add my meditation music/sounds. Ask your > doc what he thinks. I think you would like it. With me, it's not so much about pain. It's about the muscles giving out on me. The muscles in my legs do not necessarily get blood flow to them and I collapse. I am a former dancer so I do try to dance when I can. Can't always do that. Usually can not. But that kind of slow paced sort of thing would not be for me. I tend to like quick things. : With me, it's not so much about pain. It's about the muscles giving out on : me. The muscles in my legs do not necessarily get blood flow to them and I : collapse. I am a former dancer so I do try to dance when I can. Can't : always do that. Usually can not. But that kind of slow paced sort of thing : would not be for me. I tend to like quick things. There is seated Tai-Chi. I have not done it but heard about it form someone who does it in Florida where there are many older people with standing problems. I tmight seem boring, but it might be good just for stretching your body etc. Wendy > : With me, it's not so much about pain. It's about the muscles giving out > on [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > standing problems. I tmight seem boring, but it might be good just for > stretching your body etc. I have to be super careful with stretching. That can cause the muscles to cramp. >> Speaking of exercise, have you ever looked into Tai Chi? It is extremely >> low impact, yet so very calming, and clearing/centering. Like you I have [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > me. Especially if it has to be done standing. I have to do seated > exercises. You can do it sitting down. For me though it's not boring. I am so intent of the form, that I forget all the other crap that is going on, and find myself calm and relaxed. >> Three ops on my lower back. Picture an additional 4" of butt crack..;), >> which damaged my sciatic. Right leg is 2" shorter than my left due to due [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> > That doesn't sound good. Nope. But when we are younger, we think we are indestructible. Only when that stuff comes back and bites you in the butt, do you realize...DAMN, I wish I hadn't have done that...lol >> So I guess what I am trying to say, is that if I can do it, just about >> anyone can. Yes there days my back and lower legs hurt so bad I want to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Can't always do that. Usually can not. But that kind of slow paced sort > of thing would not be for me. I tend to like quick things. I hear you there. My back was bad anyway, but that mixture of Lopid and Zocor really did a number on my muscles. Some days, just bending over to put a drive in my system makes we want to go to my knees. Tai Chi is not everyone's cup of tea. The thing about it that most don't know, is that it IS actually a martial art. There are more than the slower fluid solo form(Tai Chi Chuan). Check this link for a better explanation than I can give... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tai_chi_chuan SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email >> Speaking of exercise, have you ever looked into Tai Chi? It is extremely >> low impact, yet so very calming, and clearing/centering. Like you I have a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >me. Especially if it has to be done standing. I have to do seated >exercises. There is a seated form. It's a martial art - if you do it properly, it's absolutely engaging, not boring at all, because you are concentrating on your body's movements, placements and responses all the time. I think you might enjoy it, it needs the same commitment and discipline as dancing does. Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 >>> Speaking of exercise, have you ever looked into Tai Chi? It is extremely >>> low impact, yet so very calming, and clearing/centering. Like you I have [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > the time. I think you might enjoy it, it needs the same commitment and > discipline as dancing does. I don't think so. I asked my dad about it again today. The martial arts do not sound at all appealing to me. With dance, it was the music that was the appeal. >>>> Speaking of exercise, have you ever looked into Tai Chi? It is >>>> extremely [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > do not sound at all appealing to me. With dance, it was the music that > was the appeal. If you ever get the chance, watch a weapons form exhibition, even some of the solo forms. Not just in Tai Chi either. They are in essence a beautifully choreographed dance. And you CAN do it to music. I do...:) SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email > If you ever get the chance, watch a weapons form exhibition, even some of > the solo forms. Not just in Tai Chi either. They are in essence a > beautifully choreographed dance. And you CAN do it to music. I do...:) Still not something that sounds appealing to me. >> If you ever get the chance, watch a weapons form exhibition, even some of >> the solo forms. Not just in Tai Chi either. They are in essence a >> beautifully choreographed dance. And you CAN do it to music. I do...:) > > Still not something that sounds appealing to me. Not a problem. Diversity is what makes life grand..:) SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email >>> Speaking of exercise, have you ever looked into Tai Chi? It is extremely >>> low impact, yet so very calming, and clearing/centering. Like you I have [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > the time. I think you might enjoy it, it needs the same commitment and > discipline as dancing does. Exactly what I said in my response. I am so intent on getting the form correct, that all the crap I was dealing with before disappear. After I am done, I very relaxed, and calm. SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email >Exactly what I said in my response. I am so intent on getting the form >correct, that all the crap I was dealing with before disappear. After I am >done, I very relaxed, and calm. Yah. I love working on my karate forms, which need to be done with the same kind of perfect control you need in Tai-Chi. I get really in the zone. I suspect that any activity that requires that deep a level of concentration would do; but Tai-Chi is unusually accessible to people with limited movement options. Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 >>Exactly what I said in my response. I am so intent on getting the form >>correct, that all the crap I was dealing with before disappear. After I am [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > concentration would do; but Tai-Chi is unusually accessible to people > with limited movement options. Because it is so low impact I suspect. You have don't the pop/snap as you would in say a Tae Kwon Do, or Kung Fu punch or kick. I just picked it up as it was a natural progression from my meditation. Or would be extension? Don't know. Just know I love doing it. SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email On 1/8/08 10:19 AM, in article 29Pgj.707$mK7.498@newsfe06.lga, >>> Exactly what I said in my response. I am so intent on getting the form >>> correct, that all the crap I was dealing with before disappear. After I am [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > it was a natural progression from my meditation. Or would be extension? > Don't know. Just know I love doing it. It is what my physiotherapist suggested I do, when he wanted me to start some exercises after starting to wean me off a walker. I have had serious degenerative back disease for several years so I get permission from him before I get too reckless. He suggested it for the reason you say. It is low impact. Even then, I couldn't do all 108 moves at first. It probably would have been better if I had started on 28 form. I still do it 3 times a week but now I have started training for 10K walk. My physio won't let me run---too risky. SignatureMartha T2 Canada 1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia > On 1/8/08 10:19 AM, in article 29Pgj.707$mK7.498@newsfe06.lga, > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > but now I have started training for 10K walk. My physio won't let me > run---too risky. As I told Julie, it's not everyone's cup of tea, but the majority of people that try it, love it. The only move I personally had/have trouble with is "Snake Creeps Down" due to the squatting. Both knees and right hip are shot. Otherwise I have no problem except for those days my back stays in a perpetual spasm. Walking distances for me is problematic. I have a 1 3/4" leg length differential, and the 3 previous back ops have screwed up my sciatic. Anything over a city block and my back and right leg feel like they are on fire. The leg eventually starts going numb. So long distance anything is out. SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email > On 1/8/08 10:19 AM, in article 29Pgj.707$mK7.498@newsfe06.lga, > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > but now I have started training for 10K walk. My physio won't let me > run---too risky. I hit send before I finished...hehehe I have the all 108 movements with description and compass position in PDF format should anyone be interested. Can also covert if needed. SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email >I have the all 108 movements with description and compass position in PDF >format should anyone be interested. Can also covert if needed. Yes, please - my email works. Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 >>I have the all 108 movements with description and compass position in PDF >>format should anyone be interested. Can also covert if needed. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > D&E, 100ug thyroxine > Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 Zip or Rar? SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email >>>I have the all 108 movements with description and compass position in PDF >>>format should anyone be interested. Can also covert if needed. >> >> Yes, please - my email works. >Zip or Rar? Zip, please. Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 On 1/9/08 8:20 AM, in article Dv6hj.1720$dP7.434@newsfe07.lga, >> On 1/8/08 10:19 AM, in article 29Pgj.707$mK7.498@newsfe06.lga, >> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > I have the all 108 movements with description and compass position in PDF > format should anyone be interested. Can also covert if needed. Dark Sentinel, I would appreciate a copy. I hope we do the same form. I do the Woo form. You can send it to me directly if no one else is interested---<irwinm@shaw.ca> Thanks, SignatureMartha T2 Canada 1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia > On 1/9/08 8:20 AM, in article Dv6hj.1720$dP7.434@newsfe07.lga, > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > You can send it to me directly if no one else is > interested---<irwinm@shaw.ca> I do the Yang form. Do you still want it? SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email Hi DarkSentinel, I would be interested in this if you think that a complete beginner would be able to follow it. I am looking for something that I can do until the snow and ice disappears. Many thanks, Sally sallyvel@hotmail.com > > On 1/8/08 10:19 AM, in article 29Pgj.707$mK7.498@newsfe06.lga, > > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > I have the all 108 movements with description and compass position in PDF > format should anyone be interested. Can also covert if needed. Sally, T2 Diagnosed Feb. 2007 Diet & Exercise > Lumbar Stenosis from L1-L12 caused by my spine getting compressed in a > roll-over. Also reason I'm 6'3 instead of 6'4"...lol LMFAO, you must be an amazon man before-hand.. since the normal human only has down to L5 in the spine... If you're gonna try to sound important and make others think you know what you're talking about try doing it correctly when there are others here who have had more serious spinal issues then you claim and actually know the real body parts and their names. OUT.. rk, t1 >> Lumbar Stenosis from L1-L12 caused by my spine getting compressed in a >> roll-over. Also reason I'm 6'3 instead of 6'4"...lol [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > have had more serious spinal issues then you claim and > actually know the real body parts and their names. Yeah, like muscle for brain... Or maybe he just made a simple typo. You know the kind - "loose" for "lose", "narcodic" for "narcotic". > >> Lumbar Stenosis from L1-L12 caused by my spine getting compressed in a > >> roll-over. Also reason I'm 6'3 instead of 6'4"...lol [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Yeah, like muscle for brain... Or maybe he just made a simple typo. You know > the kind - "loose" for "lose", "narcodic" for "narcotic". Likely even simpler, "L1-L12" for "L1-L2." "Love each other as I have loved you." -- LORD Jesus Christ Amen. >>> Lumbar Stenosis from L1-L12 caused by my spine getting compressed in a >>> roll-over. Also reason I'm 6'3 instead of 6'4"...lol [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Yeah, like muscle for brain... Or maybe he just made a simple typo. You > know the kind - "loose" for "lose", "narcodic" for "narcotic". Indeed. My typing is not what you would call the best. 2 index fingers, and thumbs maybe if I get going good. I TRY and proofread best I can, but I do miss things. Guess people have nothing better to do than try to correct everything everybody says. SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email > >> Lumbar Stenosis from L1-L12 caused by my spine getting compressed in a > >> roll-over. Also reason I'm 6'3 instead of 6'4"...lol [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Yeah, like muscle for brain... Or maybe he just made a simple typo. You know > the kind - "loose" for "lose", "narcodic" for "narcotic". Yeah, because on my keyboard "12" comes right between "4" and "5". :) Kurt On Jan 6, 2:23?pm, "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_...@maccas.com> wrote: > "rk" <rkh...@gotcha.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > know > the kind - "loose" for "lose", "narcodic" for "narcotic". Yeah, because on my keyboard "12" comes right between "4" and "5". :) ---------- Maybe his is between 1 and 2. Whatever. He didn't deserve that tirade. A decent person would have pointed the error out nicely, not turned it into a personal, I am better than anyone else here because.... as so often happens. In alt.support.diabetes on Tue, 8 Jan 2008 10:48:42 +1100 in Msg.# <13o5ej2ed8jerf9@news.supernews.com>, "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote: > On Jan 6, 2:23?pm, "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_...@maccas.com> wrote: [ ... ] > > Yeah, like muscle for brain... Or maybe he just made a simple typo. You > > know [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > decent person would have pointed the error out nicely, not turned it into a > personal, I am better than anyone else here because.... as so often happens. Here's an example of the quoting & attributing problem. We see Ozgirl with standard Usenet quoting [of rk], then Kurt seemingly also standard, but then Ozgirl using a line of dashes to set off her reply from Kurt's. From past discussions, that is apparently because some newsreaders can't correctly quote Kurt's posts even though they can most, if not all, others. SignatureDonnaB bleary and dreary and tired, oh, my! But I'm baa-ack! "In the New Year, may your right hand always be stretched out in friendship, never in want." - Irish toast Source: beliefnet/ web > On Jan 6, 2:23?pm, "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_...@maccas.com> wrote: >> "rk" <rkh...@gotcha.com> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > a personal, I am better than anyone else here because.... as so often > happens. Exactly. I would have went DOH, you're right, I MEANT dah dah dah. But as is normal, there are those who have nothing better to do that find fault with everything someone says. SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email > On Jan 6, 2:23?pm, "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_...@maccas.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > decent person would have pointed the error out nicely, not turned it into a > personal, I am better than anyone else here because.... as so often happens Well, I agree it does so often happen here, but there are several others besides Reisa who have been known to do that when they think something ignorant or incorrect is posted here. They never get dogpiled though...go figure. Kurt >> On Jan 6, 2:23?pm, "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_...@maccas.com> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > something ignorant or incorrect is posted here. They never get > dogpiled though...go figure. Perhaps it was them manner in which it was done. If it was done like "Um, don't you mean this...instead of that", I don't think the dogpile would of occurred. Instead he/she chose to try and ridicule me. When that is done, I WILL respond strongly, as was evidenced. Like any one, when that tack is taken, I WILL respond in kind, and rightfully so. That person doesn't know me. Who is he/she to presume to to try and correct me in THAT manner. You reap what you sow. SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email >> >> Lumbar Stenosis from L1-L12 caused by my spine getting compressed in a >> >> roll-over. Also reason I'm 6'3 instead of 6'4"...lol [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Yeah, because on my keyboard "12" comes right between "4" and "5". :) DO try and read everything before making assumptions and babbling. I don't use normal "home keys". I type the way that is comfortable for ME. Just like MY diabetic treatment is right for ME. Regardless of whether I type 4, 5, or what the hell ever, my back problems are STILL there. The scars are STILL there. EVERYONE makes mistakes because no one is perfect. YOU of all people should know that. So before you stick your nose into something you know NOTHING about, take the time to remember that. SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email Kurt i know you like rk ..which is your choice but seriously comon she showed her arse and looks bad for it..you jumping to her defense when she was clearly wrong make you look as bad. Why not convince her to drop the silly" hey phucknuts " type of bashing and respond in a reasoned manner..i know i am trying to..and i see lately so have you. Just a thought man.. KROM "Kurt" <kurtwheeling1965@hotmail.com> wrote Yeah, because on my keyboard "12" comes right between "4" and "5". :) Kurt > Kurt i know you like rk .. I've come to discover that Reisa is a good person and not a phony like a few others in here. >which is your choice but seriously comon she > showed her arse and looks bad for it..you jumping to her defense when she > was clearly wrong make you look as bad. I jumped to no one's defense...I merely posted a sarcastic response to Ozgirl explaining how "12" was a typo. Reisa can take care of herself, she doesn't need me to defend anything she writes in here or to tell her what and how to post. She's also been involved with a.s.d for a long time and was one of the founders of the group. She has provided lots and lots of help to people though the years and is very knowledgeable with diabetes. When it comes to back problems she has had the works. Many years of surgery and rehab so she knows her stuff. There seems to be, at any given time, a rash of new people who come in here and say they have a condition and then post things that belies what they are saying about themselves. I have grown to be suspicious of a lot of people and what they say is wrong with them. > Why not convince her to drop the silly" hey phucknuts " type of bashing and > respond in a reasoned manner.. Save that comment for some of your buddies in this newsgroup who may not use the word "phucknut" but offer up their own form of rudeness. I have seen a number of people in here snap like a dry twig in a Santa Ana wind and berate others that they disagree with. Reisa has been the target of many of those tirades. It would be great if everyone here, including myself, would always respond in a reasoned manner...but it ain't gonna happen. So please don't just single rk out for that. >i know i am trying to..and i see lately so > have you. I try to respond to people in the same tone they talk to me. Not always successful at that, but I do try. It is within all of us to lash out when we feel someone is being stupid. I also try to look at the big picture of each person and evaluate them on how they respond to me and to others. There are only a few in here who I think are consistently arrogant, condescending, and mean spirited with their attitude and treatment of others. Reisa isn't one of them. All IMO of course. Kurt In the year ive been here the ONLY post by rk that wasnt snarky rude or a fight was to diana..thats it..ive not seen her offer comfort or support to newbies or sick regulars. She dispenses advice to and about type two's thats geared for a type one and refuses to make the distinction..except when shes bashing them. No matter what i think of gantlets behaviour here when he posted he was doing poorly i offered support and meant it and would do the same for rk and chung and anyone else...i dont see having the shameful joy it seems she seems to take in being mean rude and crude for no reason..i experienced it firsthand and see it directed at most every type two that comes seeking help. I never said a bad word to her yet was told my disease was fake and self inflicted and other gems and when i tried to ask why shed say such a thing got berrated. Had it been a bad day id a let it go..but its a contuing saga. Sadly im a optomist and hope she and all of us can change the discourse to a better one here...but thats me and as u say is all opinion. <shrug> KROM "Kurt" <kurtwheeling1965@hotmail.com> wrote It is within all of us to lash out when we feel someone is being stupid. I also try to look at the big picture of each person and evaluate them on how they respond to me and to others. There are only a few in here who I think are consistently arrogant, condescending, and mean spirited with their attitude and treatment of others. Reisa isn't one of them. All IMO of course. Kurt >Had it been a bad day id a let it go..but its a contuing saga. Actually, Reisa is a pretty nice person at heart, IMO - but one with huge pain issues that seem to have made her extra snarky recently. Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 >>Had it been a bad day id a let it go..but its a contuing saga. > > Actually, Reisa is a pretty nice person at heart, IMO - but one with > huge pain issues that seem to have made her extra snarky recently. Nick, at one time, my DAILY dose of pain meds was 240mg of Morphine, 10 Percoset 10's, 8 Valium 10's, and either a Demerol or Dilaudid kicker at night. The doc in TN had me addicted for 3 years. There is not a day that goes by I'm not in constant pain. Yet through all that I do my utmost to be as nice as I possibly can to everyone I interact with. If the pain is THAT bad, then she doesn't need to be interacting with others. I kicked all that sh.t cold turkey btw, twice. I have just found other ways like meditation to bring to a manageable level. SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email Stupid freebie newserver!..i dont see nicky or a few others postings..sigh Its very on of with who it lets thru and when it seems..odd. Like i saw one of donnas posts but not her OP etc. So ill reply thru DS's post to nicky...im sure she is a nice person its just ive never seen it personally and that all one can go on is how they are treated.. If sombodies that ill i dont see why theyd waste good energy here fighting..but thats me.. I wish her well regardless just dont have the urge to read her insults is all. KROM >>>Had it been a bad day id a let it go..but its a contuing saga. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > all that sh.t cold turkey btw, twice. I have just found other ways like > meditation to bring to a manageable level. >> Kurt i know you like rk .. > > I've come to discover that Reisa is a good person and not a phony like > a few others in here. Not being a phony as you say, does not give cause to act like an a.s. >>which is your choice but seriously comon she >> showed her arse and looks bad for it..you jumping to her defense when she [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > themselves. I have grown to be suspicious of a lot of people and what > they say is wrong with them. That is all fine and good. And just because I made a typo, just got a new KB btw... Logitech MX3200 combo...:), does NOT mean I don't have the injuries I describe. I can provide proof for any assertion I ever make. Hell, I got an extra 4" of a.s crack to prove that. I am here to help, get help, and commiserate with my fellow diabetics. I'm not here to get in a pissing match, or one-up ANYONE because we all damn well have enough sh.t going on, that we don't need to add to it. Knowledgeable or not, you act like an a.s, you get treated like one. It's that simple. >> Why not convince her to drop the silly" hey phucknuts " type of bashing >> and [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > manner...but it ain't gonna happen. So please don't just single rk > out for that. Again, you reap what you sow. You talk trash, expect it in return. >>i know i am trying to..and i see lately so >> have you. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > All IMO of course. Perhaps you should tell your friend that. And from the way she responded to ME, she most certainly IS arrogant, condescending, and mean spirited. Therefore THAT is what she gets in return. SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email She was NOT one of the founders of the group. Cheri Kurt wrote in message <5911d036-7d9e-4a8d-9bf0- Reisa can take care of herself, she doesn't need me to defend anything she writes in here or to tell her what and how to post. She's also been involved with a.s.d for a long time and was one of the founders of the group. She has provided lots and lots of help to people though the years and is very knowledgeable with diabetes. > She was NOT one of the founders of the group. *whew* I didn't think so but he said it with such authority! >> She was NOT one of the founders of the group. > > *whew* I didn't think so but he said it with such authority! you were here long before rk showed up, Julie >>> She was NOT one of the founders of the group. >> >> *whew* I didn't think so but he said it with such authority! > you were here long before rk showed up, Julie I thought I was, but I wasn't sure. >> She was NOT one of the founders of the group. > > *whew* I didn't think so but he said it with such authority! Even if she were, that does NOT give her the right to act like an a.s. SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email thank you Cheri that was an offensive remark to the work that Jude and others did to found this group > She was NOT one of the founders of the group. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > of the group. She has provided lots and lots of help to people though > the years and is very knowledgeable with diabetes. > > She was NOT one of the founders of the group. From Meriman-Webster.com founder: transitive verb: to disable (an animal) especially by excessive feeding Sounds like a lot of us. :-) Adam Becker Sr > Kurt i know you like rk ..which is your choice but seriously comon she > showed her arse and looks bad for it..you jumping to her defense when she [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Just a thought man.. As I stated in another post. I only respond in kind. SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email >> Lumbar Stenosis from L1-L12 caused by my spine getting compressed in a >> roll-over. Also reason I'm 6'3 instead of 6'4"...lol [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > OUT.. And you must be some anal retentive, little spud that has nothing better to do than sit and try to correct everyone's typos, and mistakes. I HAVE the disability papers showing severe lumbar stenosis. I HAVE the scar on my back from the 3 operations. Whether it is from L1 to what the f.ck ever. So why don't you just take your little anal retentive a.s remarks to someone that actually gives a sh.t. How's that? Unless you can disprove what the doctors say, YOU have no credibility. Oh, and have a nice day cretin. SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email > And you must be some anal retentive, little spud that has nothing better > to do than sit and try to correct everyone's typos, and mistakes. I HAVE [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > disprove what the doctors say, YOU have no credibility. Oh, and have a > nice day cretin. It's not anal retentiveness so much as a very strong insistence on being acknowledged to be the sickest, most long suffering, in greatest pain person in the room, with absolute no interest in nor compassion for the suffering of others. She's what kill files were made for. Susan except she for some reason passed mine :-/ but all is well again..lol KROM > She's what kill files were made for. > > Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > She's what kill files were made for. Indeed. My problem is that even after 26 years of messing with the computer, I STILL haven't learned to type correctly. I AM fast. Picture Scotty on Star Trek IV. But I still have to look at the keyboard, so I miss some things. SignatureT2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel Undo the munge to reply by email I am the same i one finger peck type but am wicked fast..faster then most typing the "correct" way. I also have to look at what i am doing and if im looking at the screen make typos. Also my hands are very large so my fingers often hit other keys. Then we get the dislexia that comes on strong when im tired or my bg is high or low. Like i often revers my n and g's and it looks correct to my mind uless i make a effort to recheck it a few times. So if im talking about talking i often will type it as talkign and it looks correct to me. Finally my spell check is grayed out and i think i'd need to add office to my comnp to get it and it just isnt worth the bother for me. Lifes to short to let typos be a big issue in ones life. 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