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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / January 2008Chili
Is there such a thing as a diabetic friendly chili? I am going to experiment by substituting different veggies for the kidney beans to slash the carbs...but the tomato juice seems a bit carby 10 grams carb per 8 ounce serving. Have any of you found any other tomato products that are less carby that you spiced up for chili? I like to eat hefty amounts of chile so any advice would be great! > Is there such a thing as a diabetic friendly chili? I am going to > experiment by substituting different veggies for the kidney beans to > slash the carbs...but the tomato juice seems a bit carby 10 grams carb > per 8 ounce serving. Have any of you found any other tomato products > that are less carby that you spiced up for chili? I like to eat hefty > amounts of chile so any advice would be great! You should really ask this in alt.food.diabetic, where the cooks hang out. That said, I use tomato puree and/or crushed tomatoes, but the beans I use are virtually zero carb; Eden Black Soybeans. They're almost all fiber and protein, so that cuts the overall carbs a LOT compared to kidney beans. I load my chili up with small chunks of sirloin (fondue size pieces), extra lean ground beef, and some browned hot sausage (1 lb of each), too. I use on chipotle in adobo for each large batch of chili. Pretty much all the carbs in my chili are what's in the onions and the tomato. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Susan Thanks Susan! Your recipe sounds so good that it would probably make my tongue slap my forehead twice if I ate it! > Thanks Susan! Your recipe sounds so good that it would probably make > my tongue slap my forehead twice if I ate it! Oh, it's VERY good chili, but make that "ONE" chipotle in adobo, or your tongue will slap your forehead on its way out of town. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Susan Funny. Maybe I'll nail that whole batch of chili with lots of that chipotle so that my family can watch their tongue slap their foreheads on the way out of town...Just kidding. > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Pretty much all the carbs in my chili are what's in the onions and the > tomato. Well that settles it. Dinner at your house tonight. "Bill Hileman" <discgolfdad@gEEmail.com> a écrit ... >> x-no-archive: yes >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Well that settles it. Dinner at your house tonight. LMAO >matoes, but the beans I >use are virtually zero carb; Eden Black Soybeans. Where do you find Eden Black Soybeans? I've never heard of them. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= mailto: grant_and_amy@clearwire.net AIM: dosbabe1 Ciao for now! Humorous thought of the day: Have you tried your smile today? > Is there such a thing as a diabetic friendly chili? I am going to > experiment by substituting different veggies for the kidney beans to > slash the carbs...but the tomato juice seems a bit carby 10 grams carb > per 8 ounce serving. Have any of you found any other tomato products > that are less carby that you spiced up for chili? I like to eat hefty > amounts of chile so any advice would be great! Chili is very diabetic friendly. Real chili contains no beans at all. Just meat, onions, tomatoes and seasonings. I put beans in mine because I like beans. I've never heard of using tomato juice in chili. Tomato paste, sauce or even salsa, but not juice. > > Is there such a thing as a diabetic friendly chili? I am going to > > experiment by substituting different veggies for the kidney beans to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > beans. I've never heard of using tomato juice in chili. Tomato paste, > sauce or even salsa, but not juice. The only consistent thing about Chili is that everyone thinks it is something different. ;) I use _no_ tomato of any kind in my chili. A red chili sauce, onions, cubed beef, and herbs/spices. Sometimes with beans, but if beans are added, then only pintos (less often since DX.) And sometimes with other/different chilis (serranos, chipotles, etc.) But NEVER tomatoes. At least no one has mentioned the dreaded... chocolate, or pasta, as ingredients. :/ Sean > Is there such a thing as a diabetic friendly chili? I am going to > experiment by substituting different veggies for the kidney beans to > slash the carbs...but the tomato juice seems a bit carby 10 grams carb > per 8 ounce serving. Have any of you found any other tomato products > that are less carby that you spiced up for chili? I like to eat hefty > amounts of chile so any advice would be great! There are several varieties of all meat i.e. no bean chili. Sometimes we mix that half and half with a 'normal' one. > Is there such a thing as a diabetic friendly chili? I am going to > experiment by substituting different veggies for the kidney beans to > slash the carbs...but the tomato juice seems a bit carby 10 grams carb > per 8 ounce serving. Have any of you found any other tomato products > that are less carby that you spiced up for chili? I like to eat hefty > amounts of chile so any advice would be great! True chili uses no tomato, fyi, just various peppers. For the beans if that's what you like, I've used black soy beans with reasonable success. The Texture is different but not terribly objectionable. From there, I'm sure you have your own favorite ingredients. :)) BigBird I make chili with a 50-50 mix of kidney and black beans and diced tomatos and jalapenos and red and green peppers and onion and garlic... and the appropriate spices and ground beef..is awsome and zero raise! I top it when done with a bit of diced green onion and sharp cheddar cheese...so good! KROM > Is there such a thing as a diabetic friendly chili? I am going to > experiment by substituting different veggies for the kidney beans to > slash the carbs...but the tomato juice seems a bit carby 10 grams carb > per 8 ounce serving. Have any of you found any other tomato products > that are less carby that you spiced up for chili? I like to eat hefty > amounts of chile so any advice would be great! > I make chili with a 50-50 mix of kidney and black beans and diced tomatos > and jalapenos and red and green peppers and onion and garlic... and the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Excellent! The hotter spiced the better. Everyone's idea of "real chili" or "true chili" is a bit different. I use whole peeled tomatoes cut up and crushed tomatoes. I have tried different beans, and yes I believe chili should have some beans, and a mix of meats like sausage, sirloin and ground meat. As my son suggests, maybe 7 to 300 cloves of garlic too. For the heat I use a couple of seranno peppers cut up really fine, seeds and all (that's where the real heat is). And of course, most cooks have one "secret" ingredient. I have heard of peanut butter, never chocolate. My favorite is cinnamon. -TrekMan > Is there such a thing as a diabetic friendly chili? I am going to > experiment by substituting different veggies for the kidney beans to > slash the carbs...but the tomato juice seems a bit carby 10 grams carb > per 8 ounce serving. Have any of you found any other tomato products > that are less carby that you spiced up for chili? I like to eat hefty > amounts of chile so any advice would be great! If you weren't suffering from the powerful delusion that hunger is bad, you would no longer "like to eat hefty amounts" of anything: http://HeartMDPhD.com/EatLess May we, who are sane no longer suffering from the delusion that hunger is bad, have a blessedly wonderful New Years ... ... by being hungrier: http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD Hunger is wonderful :-) It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good. Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives. Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed: http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed "Blessed are you who hunger NOW... ... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21) Amen. Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords. On Dec 27, 12:08 pm, Andrew B. Chung > > Is there such a thing as a diabetic friendly chili? I am going to > > experiment by substituting different veggies for the kidney beans to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > If you weren't suffering from the powerful delusion that hunger is > bad, you would no longer "like to eat hefty amounts" of anything: The keys are calories and/or portion size and watching the fats, carbs and protein in your diet and being as physically active as you can be. There are many reasonable and tested diets that do not need an absurd mantra that "hunger is good." http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan <>< May everyone else have a blessedly wonderful New Years ... ... by being hungrier: http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD Hunger is wonderful :-) It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good. Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives. However, there are crazy folks, who have rejected this knowledge and are perishing as predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11... http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed: http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed "Blessed are you who hunger NOW... ... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21) Amen. :-))) On Dec 27, 2:28 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > :-))) Brilliant answer to the question. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan <>< May everyone else have a blessedly wonderful New Years ... ... by being hungrier: http://TruthRUS.org/BeRight Hunger is wonderful :-) It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good. Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives. However, there are crazy folks, who have rejected this knowledge and are perishing as predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11... http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed: http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed "Blessed are you who hunger NOW... ... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21) Amen. :-))) On Dec 27, 1:08 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > > Is there such a thing as a diabetic friendly chili? I am going to > > experiment by substituting different veggies for the kidney beans to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > If you weren't suffering from the powerful delusion that hunger is > bad, you would no longer "like to eat hefty amounts" of anything: Are you going to drone on about that "2PD" nonsense, or are you going to talk chili? Good chili should also double as a paint stripper. To that end, spike the sh.t out of it with Frank's red hot and replace 1/2 of the tomatoes with as much Rotel tomato / green chili sauce as you can stand. > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > Is there such a thing as a diabetic friendly chili? I am going to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/EatLess > Are you going to drone on about that "2PD" nonsense, or are > you going to talk chili? Neither: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForFerd Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords. On Dec 28, 5:58 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > > Is there such a thing as a diabetic friendly chili? I am going to [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Neither: The whole state of Texas now hates your guts. > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > The whole state of Texas now hates your guts. Sad to read that the whole state of Texas hates you so much that they even hates those who pray for you. May you and other dear convicted neighbors, friends, and family have a blessedly wonderful New Years ... ... by being hungrier: http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD Hunger is wonderful :-) It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good. Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives. However, there are crazy folks, who have rejected this knowledge and are perishing as predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11... http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed: http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed "Blessed are you who hunger NOW... ... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21) Amen. Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords. On Dec 28, 8:38 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com > Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords. Does your "Holy Spirit" tell you to act like a small child? Narcissism and schizophrenia are an ugly combination. satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed: > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > Does your "Holy Spirit" tell you to act like a small child? No. > Narcissism and schizophrenia are an ugly combination. Sin is ugly. May we, who have stopped sinning though we remains sinners, continue to rebuke you, satan, who are the source of all sin, at every opportunity: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan <>< http://TruthRUS.org/BeRight :-))) On Dec 29, 8:07 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartd...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed: > [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] > > :-))) Pitiful, truly pitful. satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed: > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed: [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] > > Pitiful, truly pitful. Righteousness is not pity. Bottom line: You remain a liar, satan. <>< > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed: > [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] > > <>< It's you that is pitiful Chung. Your delusion that Satan is communicating with you via usenet is laughable but sad. It is a moral crime on your part to squander your education by not seeking the treatment that would enable you to contribute to medical science. Shame on you. satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed: > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed: [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] > > It's you that is pitiful Chung. You would have folks falsely believe that the love that Jesus has placed in our hearts is a weakness, when there is actually no force in all of reality that is stronger: http://HeartMDPhD.com/StrongMan May we, who are strong because of Jesus' love in our hearts, continue to rebuke you are every GOD-given opportunity: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan <>< May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful New Years Day ... ... by being hungrier: http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD Hunger is wonderful :-) It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good. Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives. Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish however: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed: http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed "Blessed are you who hunger NOW... ... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21) Amen. :-))) Who are you to condem anyone, you are just a man a mere mortal not 'God. stop it at once. > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed: > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 130 lines] > > :-))) > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed: [quoted text clipped - 145 lines] > > Who are you to condem anyone, you are just a man a mere mortal not 'God. Jesus is the Messiah, LORD, and GOD. "My LORD and my GOD ! " -- disciple Thomas upon seeing the risen LORD Jesus Christ. May all who read this, wisely choose to be right with GOD: http://TruthRUS.org/BeRight Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthy Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords. > On Dec 27, 1:08 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > replace 1/2 of the tomatoes with as much Rotel tomato / > green chili sauce as you can stand. The first step in reducing the carbs in chili is to make it properly. Never, ever put any beans in chili. > > On Dec 27, 1:08 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > The first step in reducing the carbs in chili is to make it properly. > Never, ever put any beans in chili. I don't care what goes into it as long as it's not Wisconsin style. Poor folks up in America's dairyland have a genetic mutation which makes them unable to tolerate anything hotter than Heinz chili sauce. On Dec 27, 1:08 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > > Is there such a thing as a diabetic friendly chili? I am going to > > experiment by substituting different veggies for the kidney beans to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > If you weren't suffering from the powerful delusion that hunger is > bad, you would no longer "like to eat hefty amounts" of anything: Wow. > http://HeartMDPhD.com/EatLess > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com > Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords. > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Wow. Redirecting all glory to GOD. Laus Deo ! ! ! Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthy Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords. On Dec 28, 7:23 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com > Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords. : Is there such a thing as a diabetic friendly chili? I am going to : experiment by substituting different veggies for the kidney beans to : slash the carbs...but the tomato juice seems a bit carby 10 grams carb : per 8 ounce serving. Have any of you found any other tomato products : that are less carby that you spiced up for chili? I like to eat hefty : amounts of chile so any advice would be great! You can try using the BLACK soy beans, available inorganic sections of the stores or at health food paces. they come dried or in cans(but havn't seen the cans in my neighborhood.) They are very high fiber and low carb, but take a dickens of tie to cook if you use dried and soak the m overnight adn if you eat too many have the problem that lots of fiber sometimes has of kind of loosening you up, but they don't spike me so I use them in moderation. I find that tomato products like fresh or canned tomatoes, etc don't spike me and work better for a chili recipe tht plain tomato juice. Experiment a bit and make it as hot as you like thtat doesn't generally spike anyone:-) Wendy |
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