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lintonra@gmail.com - 23 Dec 2007 13:49 GMT
I"ve been recently diagnosed with type-2 diabetes and now i understand
what all these aches in my feet are related to. Yesterday i had two
pieces of cake at my sons bday party. Immediately after my feet
started hurting, really bad. Do other people experience this? What can
I do if this happens? This is so crazy, its the next day and I still
feel some pain.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Dec 2007 13:53 GMT
It is likely that you had too much cake **along** with too much of
everything else.

Suggested reading:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/EatLess

May you have a Blessedly Wonderful Christmas...

... by being hungrier:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.

linto...@gmail.com wrote:
> I"ve been recently diagnosed with type-2 diabetes and now i understand
> what all these aches in my feet are related to. Yesterday i had two
> pieces of cake at my sons bday party. Immediately after my feet
> started hurting, really bad. Do other people experience this? What can
> I do if this happens? This is so crazy, its the next day and I still
> feel some pain.
J666 - 23 Dec 2007 13:58 GMT
Chung

> Andrew <><
> --

An apple a day keeps Chung away  <o>
Superghost - 23 Dec 2007 17:54 GMT
> Chung
>
> > Andrew <><
> > --
>
> An apple a day keeps Chung away  <o>

Eating cake with aching feet is a sure sign of demonic possession.
J666 - 23 Dec 2007 18:14 GMT
Superghost did wisely say

> Eating cake with aching feet is a sure sign of demonic possession.

Certainly eating Angel Food cake would be good as opposed to Devil's
Food cake which would be bad.
Superghost - 23 Dec 2007 19:57 GMT
> Superghost did wisely say
>
> > Eating cake with aching feet is a sure sign of demonic possession.
>
> Certainly eating Angel Food cake would be good as opposed to Devil's
> Food cake which would be bad.

What happens when you eat both simutaneously? Another earthquake?
J666 - 23 Dec 2007 20:35 GMT
Superghost

> > Superghost did wisely say
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> What happens when you eat both simutaneously? Another earthquake?

Perhaps a stomachquake.

Scientists have discerned that the manna in the desert was the
substance of Angel Food cake and therefore the best 2 pound OMER diet
is really the 2 pound Angel Food Cake Approach. As like manna, Angel
Food Cake has all the nutrition you need, so you can eat 2 pounds at
once as it does not stretch the stomach and so stay hungry.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 24 Dec 2007 01:00 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan

<><

May everyone else have a Blessedly Wonderful Christmas...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ac2e9182437e0f50?

Hunger is wonderful :-)

Its how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

:-))
Superghost - 24 Dec 2007 01:42 GMT
On Dec 23, 8:00 pm, "Andrew B. Chunk" <fartdo...@emorycardiology.com>
farted:

> Hunger is wonderful :-)

Do you still hunger for Satan's ejaculate, Quackie?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 24 Dec 2007 03:53 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan

<><

May everyone else have a Blessedly Wonderful Christmas...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ac2e9182437e0f50?

Hunger is wonderful :-)

Its how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

:-))
J666 - 24 Dec 2007 04:30 GMT
Andrew B. Chung

> <><
>
> May everyone else have a Blessedly Wonderful Christmas...

Your repetition is a sign that you have no answer to the fact that the
Angel Food Cake Omer Approach is the way to go.  Admit it, the AFCOA
is much better based on a manna based Angel Food Cake.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 24 Dec 2007 04:33 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan

<><

May everyone else have a Blessedly Wonderful Christmas...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ac2e9182437e0f50?

Hunger is wonderful :-)

Its how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

:-))
J666 - 24 Dec 2007 15:22 GMT
Andrew B. Chung
> May everyone else have a Blessedly Wonderful Christmas...
>
> ... by being hungrier:

The Holy Spirit has another reason for convicting you - your refusal
to accept that the Holy Spirit has said that the manna-based Angel
Food Cake Omer Approach is God's way.
Ferd Farkel - 25 Dec 2007 22:56 GMT
> Andrew B. Chung
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> to accept that the Holy Spirit has said that the manna-based Angel
> Food Cake Omer Approach is God's way.

Two egg or three?

Scratch or mix?
J666 - 26 Dec 2007 04:05 GMT
Ferd Farkel

> Two egg or three?
>
> Scratch or mix?

The wondrous and simple thing about manna based Angel Food Cake is
that just need the manna and bake it and that is all.
mallstop4u@gmail.com - 26 Dec 2007 04:28 GMT
For almost every person with diabetes, Eating a piece of cake made
with sugar will raise your blood glucose level. So will eating corn on
the cob, a tomato sandwich, or lima beans. The truth is that sugar has
gotten a bad reputation. People with diabetes can and do eat sugar. In
your body, it becomes glucose, but so do the other foods mentioned
above. With sugary foods, the rule is moderation. Eat too much, and 1)
you'll send your blood glucose level up higher than you expected; 2)
you'll fill up but without the nutrients that come with vegetables and
grains; and For more read at http://www.americanvistas.com/diabetes_topics.htm

> Ferd Farkel
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> The wondrous and simple thing about manna based Angel Food Cake is
> that just need the manna and bake it and that is all.
:-) - 26 Dec 2007 05:18 GMT
> The wondrous and simple thing about manna based Angel Food Cake is
> that just need the manna and bake it and that is all.

Unfortunately manna production ended about 3600 years ago.
Now I read this line the other day, it reminded me of someone, and
presented a possible modern day substitution:

"Kellogg was a quack who based his nutritional advice on
his misguided religious beliefs"

Then: Manna ("It was white like coriander seed and tasted like wafers
made with honey.")

Now: Kellogg's Corn Flakes.
J666 - 26 Dec 2007 13:39 GMT
On Dec 25, 11:18 pm, ":-)"
> Then: Manna ("It was white like coriander seed and tasted like wafers
> made with honey.")
>
> Now: Kellogg's Corn Flakes.

Cereal

Cereal or grain is a member of the grass plant family, with starchy
seeds used for food. Common cereals are: wheat, rice, rye, oats,
barley, corn (maize), and sorghum.

The word cereal came from Ceres, the Roman goddess of agriculture and
harvest. She symbolizes the cultivated, fertile soil that provides for
humanity. She was worshipped as the all-nourishing mother.

Breakfast cereals actually began as part of the health-food craze in
the 1800's. It grew out of a health movement in the 1860's to add
fiber, which was non-existent in diets at that time.

Dr. James C. Jackson, invented the world's first cereal in 1863. He
called this 'Granula' (named after granules) which was Graham flour
dough baked into dry loaves, broken into chunks and baked again, and
then ground into still smaller chunks. These heavy bran nuggets needed
soaking overnight before they were tender enough to eat.

The first dry, flaked breakfast cereal however was developed by the
Kellogg brothers. Dr. John Harvey Kellogg and his brother, Will Keith
Kellogg, experimented with various grain dishes while running a health
sanitarium in Battle Creek, Michigan. They came from a family of
Seventh Day Adventists, a religious group that focused attention to
health and a simple, vegetarian diet.

In 1877, Dr. John Harvey Kellogg, the operator of the Battle Creek
Sanitarium in Michigan, invented a ground up wheat, oat, and cornmeal
biscuit for his patients suffering from bowel problems.

In 1894, Will Keith Kellogg accidentally left a pot of boiled wheat to
stand for days and the wheat became very soft. When he rolled the
softened wheat and let it dry, each grain of wheat emerged as a large
thin flake. The flakes turned out to be a tasty cereal. He had
invented corn flakes. Sanitarium patients loved the new concoction
when served with milk, and after they returned home, ordered the
flakes by mail. Because of the Kellogg brothers, the city of Battle
Creek is nicknamed the "cereal capital of the world".

Charles William Post came to the Battle Creek Sanitarium of the
Kellogg brothers to cure his upset stomach. He later created Postum, a
cereal-based coffee substitute. In 1897 he came up with Grape-Nuts,
and in 1904, Elijah's Manna (renamed Post Toasties).

Post introduced the first sweetened cereal in 1949 Sugar Crisp. These
were soon followed by Kellogg's Sugar Pops, Frosted Flakes and Sugar
Smacks, and General Mills' Trix.

* 1863 Granula was created by James Caleb Jackson.
* 1877 Dr. John Harvey Kellogg invented a ground up wheat, oat, and
cornmeal biscuit for his patients suffering from bowel problems.
* 1894 Will Keith Kellogg accidentally created corn flakes.
* 1897 Grape-Nuts was created by C.W. Post.
* 1904 Elijah's Manna created by Post, later to be called Post
Toasties.
* 1906 Kellogg begins production of Kellogg's Corn Flakes at W.K.
Kellogg's newly formed Battle Creek Toasted Corn Flake Company.
* 1915 Quaker Oats packages Quaker Oatmeal in now-familiar cylinders.
* 1924 General Mills introduces Wheaties, called Washburn's Gold Medal
Whole Wheat Flakes during its development.
* 1928 Kellogg introduces Rice Krispies.
* 1941 General Mills introduces Cheerioats, later to be called
Cheerios.
* 1942 Raisin Bran is introduced by Post.
* 1952 Kellogg introduces Sugar Smacks.
* 1958 Tony the Tiger wins contest over Katy the Kangaroo to become
sole spokes-character for Kellogg's Frosted Flakes.
* 1961 Quaker Oats introduces Life Cereal.
* 1963 Quaker Oats introduces Cap'n Crunch. Kellogg introduces Froot
Loops.

* Of the more than 294 million people in the U.S, 49% start their day
with a bowl of cereal.
* The average American eats 160 bowls of cereal each year.
* Ready-to-eat breakfast cereals are served in nine out of 10 American
households.
* 85% of all protein consumed throughout the world is provided by
grains such as wheat, corn, rice, millet, rye, barley, and sorghum
those that are often found in cereal.
* Astronauts from Apollo 11 boosted their brain power while in space
with a cereal breakfast. The cereal was mixed with fruit and pressed
into cubes since the lack of gravity kept the astronauts from pouring
it into a bowl with milk.
* In the US, breakfast cereal is the third most popular item sold in
grocery stores after carbonated beverages and milk.
* The US Department of Agriculture recommends 6 to 11 servings of
grains in a daily diet and a bowl of cereal is a source of grains.
* There are 2.7 billion packages of cereal sold every year that's
enough boxes to wrap around the Earth 13 times
:-) - 27 Dec 2007 00:19 GMT
> Sanitarium

Oh yeah, that reminds me of someone too.

"If Mama Cass had given Karen Carpenter half of her ham sandwich,
they'd both be alive."
- Unknown
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Dec 2007 14:21 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan

<><

May everyone else have a blessedly wonderful New Years ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ac2e9182437e0f50?

Hunger is wonderful :-)

It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

:-))).
J666 - 26 Dec 2007 16:27 GMT
Andrew B. Chung

> May everyone else have a blessedly wonderful New Years ...

.... and a wonderful Imbolc Day.

> It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Psalms 78:25 -- Manna is termed "...angel's food..."

Angel Food Cake OMER Approach is simple.  The Truth is simple
mallstop4u@gmail.com - 26 Dec 2007 17:03 GMT
Cholesterol Content in CAKE ???
keep CHOLESTEROL CONTROL ........shhhhhh cholesterol epidemic

http://www.keep-cholesterol-control.com/index.html

> Andrew B. Chung
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Angel Food Cake OMER Approach is simple.  The Truth is simple
J666 - 26 Dec 2007 17:29 GMT
On Dec 26, 11:03 am, "mallsto...@gmail.com"
> Cholesterol Content in CAKE ???
> keep CHOLESTEROL CONTROL ........shhhhhh cholesterol epidemic

Since manna (Angel Food) was from God and kept everyone healthy for 40
years without eating anything else, it has the right amount of
anything needed, nothing more or less. Simpler to bake an OMER amount
in one cake rather than other forms.

That is why the Angel Food Cake OMER Approach is so simple and truth
is simple
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 27 Dec 2007 08:19 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan

<><

May everyone else have a blessedly wonderful New Years ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ac2e9182437e0f50?

Hunger is wonderful :-)

It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

:-)))
yamantaka@aol.com - 26 Dec 2007 20:49 GMT
<snip usual Chung crap>

Chung is more soundly and repeatedly rebuked on Usenet than any other
kook anywhere.
Salmon Egg - 27 Dec 2007 05:59 GMT
On 12/26/07 12:49 PM, in article
973920d6-60bc-4c0b-a738-b9df4c93382f@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com,

> <snip usual Chung crap>
>
> Chung is more soundly and repeatedly rebuked on Usenet than any other
> kook anywhere.

Is he being rebuked for hos cardiology or only for his theology? My short
interaction with him ended in my learning a bit about cardiology. I may not
agree with his theology. Tht does not make him a bad person or prevent him
from saving hearts and lives.

Bill
:-) - 27 Dec 2007 07:17 GMT
> On 12/26/07 12:49 PM, in article
> 973920d6-60bc-4c0b-a738-b9df4c933...@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com,
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Bill

Bill, usenet is like a mirror, you only get back what you put into it.
In this forum you can't have your cake and eat it too. A person can't
go around making what they know will be one super controversial
statement after another, over and over and over, and not generate a
negative reactions against themselves and create an overall negative
atmosphere . One can not cross-post hundreds articles that start out
with calling someone "convicted", "demon", "Satan" et al who's been
"soundly rebuked" etc, and expect anyone to play all nice with them
and treat them with some sort of unconditional or arbitrary respect.
And I'm not even referring to theological matters - I'm just referring
to a diet approach. Not that there aren't a zillion other facets
involved. Lots and lots of people have talked about things like health
and nutrition and theology on usenet for the 15 years I've been on it,
and generated about 1 present of the amount of controversy and
received 1 present of  the amount of negativity.
J666 - 27 Dec 2007 14:53 GMT
On Dec 26, 11:59 pm, Salmon Egg
> Is he being rebuked for hos cardiology or only for his theology? My short
> interaction with him ended in my learning a bit about cardiology. I may not
> agree with his theology. Tht does not make him a bad person or prevent him
> from saving hearts and lives.

When Chung sticks to medicine based on the principles he was taught in
medical school, in his residency and PhD program, he is OK.  When he
bases his opinion on a "discerning heart" and scriptures not studies
and peer-reviewed journals, he is not OK and giving advice on that
basis, is misleading as he posts his MD and PhD degrees whereas he is
not basing what he said on the principles of those degrees.

Just look at a few of his lasts posts, today, and they are the same
repetition to whatever is said.

When someone makes up quotes from the Holy Spirit and when someone has
a personal web page where in the Holy Spirit lists people who have
disagreed with Chung as being convicted, something is wrong. This has
been going on for some time

This evidently is the same in other Internet groups .and was evidently
the same on a doctor group, Sermo, before he was booted out.

This is why he had been rebuked so many times.  With Chung's posts,
there is far too much chaff to be bothered to look for the wheat.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 27 Dec 2007 15:18 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan

<><

May everyone else have a blessedly wonderful New Years ...

... by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Hunger is wonderful :-)

It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

:-)))
Mike Mordant - 15 Jan 2008 00:52 GMT
> On Dec 26, 11:59 pm, Salmon Egg
>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> This is why he had been rebuked so many times.  With Chung's posts,
> there is far too much chaff to be bothered to look for the wheat.

Wasn't Sermo supposed to be brought down by Chung and his imaginary
playmate?

http://www.sermo.com/
J666 - 15 Jan 2008 02:07 GMT
On Jan 14, 6:52 pm, Mike Mordant

> Wasn't Sermo supposed to be brought down by Chung and his imaginary
> playmate?

Mr. Mordant

Currently our Nigerian lawyers are negotiating a settlement from Sermo
which will be added to the guarantee of the 2 Pound OMER Approach.
Our lawyers are currently helping needy people with getting money out
of Nigeria.  Dr. Chung in his kindness and consideration of the needs
of others, has told the lawyers to help the needy first, especially in
all these years and hundred of thousands of patient, the Approach has
never failed.

Thank you for your thoughts.  As a token of our appreciation, we will
have our Nigerian lawyer contact you as he needs helps with money left
in an estate and it can be profitable for you.

Unehrlich Winkeladvokat
Assistant to the Assistant Lawful Steward of the 2 Pound OMER Approach
Tiger_Lily - 28 Dec 2007 01:20 GMT
> On 12/26/07 12:49 PM, in article
> 973920d6-60bc-4c0b-a738-b9df4c93382f@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com,
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Bill

Chung was terminated from a cardiac health centre in Florida after 88
days of 'employment'
he was fired WITH CAUSE

search google groups, where Chung himself posts the e-mail he got from
the health centre to the newsgroups

he's certifiable........ i wouldn't have a thing to do with him if i
were you

and his 'knowledge' is highly suspect
BusinessAccountEmail@gmail.com - 28 Dec 2007 02:30 GMT
On Dec 27, 7:20 pm, Tiger_Lily
> Chung was terminated from a cardiac health centre in Florida after 88
> days of 'employment'
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> and his 'knowledge' is highly suspect

It would be hard to believe that a reasonable person after reading
Chung's posts and even trying to have a serious discussion with him.
would take him seriously.  Most posts about Chung and responses to
Chung's posts, just get more of the same from Chung.  A few posts of
others are funny and clever, but most are childish.

There has to more than just Chung's troll like posting and responses -
obviously mentally something is wrong.

Read them for fun,but not for serious medical information.
:-) - 28 Dec 2007 08:51 GMT
BusinessAccountEm... wrote:
> It would be hard to believe that a reasonable person after reading
> Chung's posts and even trying to have a serious discussion with him.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Read them for fun,but not for serious medical information.

I like reading the funny quips from others they generate, and enjoy
adding my own little witticisms here and there. Sometimes I'll set the
record straight from my POV regarding scriptural interpretation.
Interaction with the person in question is a pointless waste of time.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 28 Dec 2007 14:10 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan

<><

May everyone else have a blessedly wonderful New Years ...

... by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/BeRight

Hunger is wonderful :-)

It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish however:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

:-)))
guys@consolidated.net - 29 Dec 2007 00:47 GMT
> BusinessAccountEm... wrote:
>> It would be hard to believe that a reasonable person after reading
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>record straight from my POV regarding scriptural interpretation.
>Interaction with the person in question is a pointless waste of time.
*****************************************************
*****************************************************

The problem is not DR. Chung  but those that enjoy taking pokes at
him.

He can post what he wants because I have my own
beliefs and I do not care about his.

His " eat less" is good advice. In fact much better than a lot of the
experts.

Bar bums usually like to point the finger at others to cover their
shortcomings..

It is fair to post the true history of Dr. Chung once and a while.

Discussing religion here is about the equal of some rest room
arguments that  I have witnessed.  Please do not degrade or disgrace
your religion
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 29 Dec 2007 01:29 GMT
convicted friend Guy (g...@consolidated.net) wrote:
> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed:
> > satan via another sockpuppet hissed:
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> arguments that  I have witnessed.  Please do not degrade or disgrace
> your religion

Actually satan is only disgracing himself and unwitting showing folks
that his way is wrong and that Jesus' way is right:

http://TruthRUS.org/BeRight

May you and other dear convicted friends, family, and neighbors have a
blessedly wonderful New Years ...

... by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Hunger is wonderful :-)

It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

However, there are crazy folks, who have rejected this knowledge and
are perishing as predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians
2:9-11...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
:-) - 29 Dec 2007 02:22 GMT
> >I like reading the funny quips from others they generate, and enjoy
> >adding my own little witticisms here and there. Sometimes I'll set the
> >record straight from my POV regarding scriptural interpretation.
> >Interaction with the person in question is a pointless waste of time.
>
> The problem is not [the troll]  but those that enjoy taking pokes
at
> him.

As the old saying goes, it takes two to tango. Or in this case, one to
troll and spam in such a way that it ignites lots of negative
attention. Now one way to curtail this, which I have seen have
tremendous effect first hand, is for the core group to unanimously
agree to ignore the troll. However, since this troll is such an avid
cross-poster, trying to achieve unity this way is pretty much
impossible, which of course the troll knows full well.

> He can post what he wants because I have my own
> beliefs and I do not care about his.

Just as anyone else is free to respond as motivated by What is posted,
How it's posted and Why it's posted.
What = controversy. How = provokingly. Why = mischief.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 29 Dec 2007 02:47 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan

<><

May everyone else have a blessedly wonderful New Years ...

... by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Hunger is wonderful :-)

It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

However, there are crazy folks, who have rejected this knowledge and
are perishing as predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians
2:9-11...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

:-)))
Patsie Hatley - 22 Feb 2008 02:20 GMT
from all I have read here I do believe that Chung is a very dangerous man
and will cause much problems from people who fall for his crap.

> > On 12/26/07 12:49 PM, in article
> > 973920d6-60bc-4c0b-a738-b9df4c93382f@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com,
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>
> and his 'knowledge' is highly suspect
Julie Bove - 22 Feb 2008 03:04 GMT
> from all I have read here I do believe that Chung is a very dangerous man
> and will cause much problems from people who fall for his crap.

Just killfile him and don't read him.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 22 Feb 2008 04:13 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppets
Rod - 25 Feb 2008 02:20 GMT
> from all I have read here I do believe that Chung is a very dangerous man
> and will cause much problems from people who fall for his crap.
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>>
>> and his 'knowledge' is highly suspect

  I certainly hope that your post is grounds for him to sue your a.s...
Celine Dion, beatbox superstar - 25 Feb 2008 02:45 GMT
>    I certainly hope that your post is grounds for him to sue your a.s...

LOFL!
Ask him how those lawsuits against BellSouth and Google are coming
along...
Rod - 25 Feb 2008 03:06 GMT
>>    I certainly hope that your post is grounds for him to sue your a.s...
>
> LOFL!
> Ask him how those lawsuits against BellSouth and Google are coming
> along...

  Is that why you are anonymous, fear of retaliation by Andrew, or
  because it gives you the power to terrorize and tell lies without
  fear of repercussions ?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Feb 2008 03:34 GMT
> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) wrote:
>
> >>    I certainly hope that your post is grounds for him to sue your a.s...

The lake of fire that awaits satan will hurt him more than any
lawsuit.  Indeed, the rebuking from us who are Jesus' brethren, also
hurt him more.

> > LOFL!

Q.E.D.

"Written laughter is silent despair." -- Holy Spirit.

Amen.

> > Ask him how those lawsuits against BellSouth and Google are coming
> > along...

BellSouth does not exist any more.

Google is behaving at the moment.

>    Is that why you are anonymous, fear of retaliation by Andrew, or
>    because it gives you the power to terrorize and tell lies without
>    fear of repercussions ?

The compulsion to hide behind fake names is part of their paranoid
schizophrenia:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppets

May you and other dear friends, brethren, and neighbors have a
blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus
Christ as the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Hunger is wonderful :-)

It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! )
forever ...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob

... gone:

http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E

Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love
the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword
lucidschemer@gmail.com - 25 Feb 2008 18:43 GMT
On Feb 24, 8:34 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartd...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) wrote:
>
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> lawsuit.  Indeed, the rebuking from us who are Jesus' brethren, also
> hurt him more.

> > > LOFL!

> Q.E.D.
>
> "Written laughter is silent despair." -- Holy Spirit

    BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !

       What IS "Black Fat", Andrew ? I'm still ROTFL...ohhh...my ribs
are

aching.......BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !

Rod to Andrew,    <9hEsj.10910$J41.6609@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net>

Lucy
Rod - 25 Feb 2008 20:03 GMT
> On Feb 24, 8:34 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <heartd...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
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>
> Lucy

  I was anything but silent about it, and it's still funny.
Mike Mordant - 25 Feb 2008 19:30 GMT
On Feb 24, 9:34 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartd...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) wrote:
>
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> Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com
> Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords.http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword

Bell South was bought by ATT for $67 billion.  That hardly qualifies
as being "no more".

Go ahead and indulge your fantasies, but don't expect that any but a
few will partake of your kool-aid.
Rod - 25 Feb 2008 20:19 GMT
>> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) wrote:
>>>>    I certainly hope that your post is grounds for him to sue your a.s...
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> The compulsion to hide behind fake names is part of their paranoid
> schizophrenia:

  It is not entirely unjustified though, Andrew. What IS unjust is the
attacks that come from behind those faked names. I understand the need
for them in some circumstances, as the repercussions from id theft are
enormous and disastrous, but the use of fake names to attack others
without having to suffer repercussions should you have told a lie is
simply another form of cowardice, and needs to be dealt with in the here
and now, thats why God gave us rules to deal with these people by.
Waiting for the hereafter to deal with these problems allows them to do
whatever they please, and they never learn from their wrongs as they go
unpunished and uncorrected, and hence unrepentant....

Rod
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Feb 2008 03:03 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) wrote:
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>
> It is not entirely unjustified though, Andrew.

Actually, satan's lies will forever be entirely unjustified:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Liarsatan

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthy

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword
JustineSClement@gmail.com - 26 Feb 2008 03:19 GMT
> > friendRodwrote:
> >> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) wrote:
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Rod,

How many Christians do you know who believe the following statment :

"May we, who have stopped sinning though we remain sinners, continue
to
pray that you don't end up as they will end up: "

Yes Dr Chung wrote this many times the above is from :
Message-ID: <0f1d0907-37db-469a-9d2f-
a42dd2619eb0@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>

Before you expend energy defending him read the many unbiblical
statement he has written.

He has also written that people who do not believe hunger is the way
to know right from wrond are not saved.  Is this how you understand
salvation?

JS
Nico Kadel-Garcia - 01 Mar 2008 00:30 GMT
>   It is not entirely unjustified though, Andrew. What IS unjust is the
> attacks that come from behind those faked names. I understand the need
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> whatever they please, and they never learn from their wrongs as they go
> unpunished and uncorrected, and hence unrepentant....

Oh, Rod. That's not why he does it. He does it so that people can't
effectively killfile and ignore him. This is one of the many factors that get
him classified as a "nutjob".

The fear is not of harassment, it's of being ignored and not getting his
"IMPORTANT MESSAGE FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT ABOUT MISQUOTED BIBLICAL DIETARY
GUIDELINES, HALLELUJAH, ONLY SATAN WOULD CONTRADICT ME WITH FACTS, HALLELUJAH!"
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 01 Mar 2008 00:50 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForNico
Zeke is in God Mode - 01 Mar 2008 03:32 GMT
On Feb 29, 7:50 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, comedian"  wrote:
> PrayForNico

Don't forget about Lou Reed and John Cale.
Celine Dion, beatbox superstar - 25 Feb 2008 06:13 GMT
> >>    I certainly hope that your post is grounds for him to sue your a.s...
>
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>    because it gives you the power to terrorize and tell lies without
>    fear of repercussions ?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/86535726d100f7a7
Nico Kadel-Garcia - 25 Feb 2008 09:23 GMT
>>>    I certainly hope that your post is grounds for him to sue your a.s...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>   because it gives you the power to terrorize and tell lies without
>   fear of repercussions ?

I'm not anonymous, and will say it clearly. Andrew is a nutjob.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Feb 2008 10:36 GMT
> I'm not anonymous, and will say it clearly. Andrew is a nutjob.

Your name-calling simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely
right to convict you:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword
Rod - 25 Feb 2008 13:42 GMT
>>>>    I certainly hope that your post is grounds for him to sue your
>>>> a.s...
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>
> I'm not anonymous, and will say it clearly. Andrew is a nutjob.

  Everyone else aside including any atheists present, what of Andrew's
  actions holds forth evidence that he is a "nutjob" ? Please be
specific as detail is important. Anyone else's reply but yours will
yours and Andrews will go largely wasted and ignored, as it is what
you have to present that interests me.

  Rod
Nico Kadel-Garcia - 25 Feb 2008 14:15 GMT
>>>>>    I certainly hope that your post is grounds for him to sue your
>>>>> a.s...
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>
>   Rod

The excessive cross-posting, the insistence on Satan as the source of people's
anger towards him, the insistence on posting from numerous aliases to avoid
killfiles, the misuse of the word "omer" to quantify a unit of weight instead
of the Biblical reference to a unit of volume, etc.

Christ on a crutch, pick any 3 and use the rest on a printout to make a party
hat. He's a nutjob.
Rod - 25 Feb 2008 15:31 GMT
>>>>>>    I certainly hope that your post is grounds for him to sue your
>>>>>> a.s...
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> Christ on a crutch, pick any 3 and use the rest on a printout to make a
> party hat. He's a nutjob.

  I'm a great believer in evidence when a person can be harmed from the
  expressing of ones opinion. You have a right to believe, as does
  Andrew, and I don't agree with you but respect your right to believe
  what you will.

  I hope that no one here will hold your beliefs of Andrew against you
  as he is not without friends. I certainly will not, and wish you well.
Tiger_Lily - 25 Feb 2008 16:18 GMT
>>>>>>>    I certainly hope that your post is grounds for him to sue your
>>>>>>> a.s...
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>   I hope that no one here will hold your beliefs of Andrew against you
>   as he is not without friends. I certainly will not, and wish you well.
Rod, i can't believe you are as naive as you are sounding here

check google groups to see HOW MANY posts Chung makes to HOW MANY groups

and everything that has been said about Chung has been confirmed by him
in past posts........... right from the monkey's uncle so to speak

i'm happy for you that you enjoy Chung.......why don't you invite him to
post on YOUR newsgroup, and to stay OFF our newsgroup (diabetes)

thank you for your time and interest
Nico Kadel-Garcia - 25 Feb 2008 16:53 GMT
> Rod, i can't believe you are as naive as you are sounding here
>
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>
> thank you for your time and interest

Any chance that Rod is a subtle troll? He had an... odd email conversation
with me today, which I'll keep the details of private as a courtesy, but I
urged him to take the thread public, which he refused.
Tiger_Lily - 25 Feb 2008 17:32 GMT
>> Rod, i can't believe you are as naive as you are sounding here
>>
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> conversation with me today, which I'll keep the details of private as a
> courtesy, but I urged him to take the thread public, which he refused.

subtle troll??? or just awfully fu**ing stupid??? hard to say
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Feb 2008 17:42 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForKate

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForNico

> >> Rod, i can't believe you are as naive as you are sounding here
> >>
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>
> subtle troll??? or just awfully fu**ing stupid??? hard to say

Neither you nor dear Nico have much longer, dear Kate:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Prophecy

May you wisely choose to repent soon by publicly declaring with your
mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword
Rod - 25 Feb 2008 17:47 GMT
>>> Rod, i can't believe you are as naive as you are sounding here
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> subtle troll??? or just awfully fu**ing stupid??? hard to say

  I'll say this again to you as well. Do you ever see the judge or jury
  in a criminal trial presenting the prosecutions evidence because they
  for some unknown reason cannot or will not ? No, you don't because it
  doesn't happen. So why is it considered good policy on usenet to defy
  the logic of it ? Is it intelligent ? No, it isn't.

  I cannot find what you've said about me here to be right or correct
  when I am only trying to be as fair as possible, but thats typical
  of those on usenet that prefer to remain unaccountable for their
  actions. So be it.

  Have a good day
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Feb 2008 18:03 GMT
Wiser to simply pray for dear Kate's perishing soul:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForKate

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForNico

> >>> Rod, i can't believe you are as naive as you are sounding here
> >>>
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>
>    Have a good day
Rod - 25 Feb 2008 17:05 GMT
>>>>>>>>    I certainly hope that your post is grounds for him to sue
>>>>>>>> your a.s...
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>>   I hope that no one here will hold your beliefs of Andrew against you
>>   as he is not without friends. I certainly will not, and wish you well.

> Rod, i can't believe you are as naive as you are sounding here

   Thats good, because I'm not. Nor do I believe that I or anyone
possess the right to censor anyones posts or forbid them to post in any
group on usenet, providing they are not in violation of that groups
charter.

   Nor is it my right to tell Andrew where and what he can post. if you
dislike his posts then exercise some self restraint and don't read them.

> check google groups to see HOW MANY posts Chung makes to HOW MANY groups

  You miss one very important point here, I don't care wqhere Andrew
posts or what he posts. I know how to use my kill filters when I don't
like what I see. I suggest you do likewise as it makes things much more
pleasant.

> and everything that has been said about Chung has been confirmed by him
> in past posts........... right from the monkey's uncle so to speak

  Again, I really have better things to do with my time than chase after
  Andrews posts that verify your complaints against him. If you have a
complaint then post proof verifying it validity, but please don't expect
other people to chase down this evidence that you won't take the time
and effort to post on your own. It isn't a wopnder that people won't
believe these things if the complaints that are postsed are not
accompanied by effort and evidence on the part of the person complaining.

> i'm happy for you that you enjoy Chung.......why don't you invite him to
> post on YOUR newsgroup, and to stay OFF our newsgroup (diabetes)

  Why would I do that ? I'm not the one complaining, you ARE. Andrews
  posting doesn't bother me at all, nor does yours.

> thank you for your time and interest

  Thank you for your prompt response and have a good day.
Celine Dion, beatbox superstar - 25 Feb 2008 17:21 GMT
>    Again, I really have better things to do with my time than chase after
>    Andrews posts that verify your complaints against him.

Oh...*that's* why you greedily post-hump everyone who points out
Chunk's insanity.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Feb 2008 17:23 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Liarsatan
Rod - 25 Feb 2008 17:33 GMT
>>    Again, I really have better things to do with my time than chase after
>>    Andrews posts that verify your complaints against him.
>
> Oh...*that's* why you greedily post-hump everyone who points out
> Chunk's insanity.

  In a criminal trial, do you see the jury or the judge presenting
  the prosecutions evidence because they either can't or won't for some
  unknown reason, as if presenting proof is a larger burden than it
  they care to shoulder ?

  Also, if the use of reason qualifies one as a "subtle troll", then
  perhaps reason is best avoided by everyone unwilling to employ it
  and accept the stigma attached to it's use.

  Thanks for your time, and have a good day.
Nico Kadel-Garcia - 25 Feb 2008 17:42 GMT
>>>    Again, I really have better things to do with my time than chase
>>> after
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>   Thanks for your time, and have a good day.

It's not a criminal trial. He violates civil contracts, in particulare
Acceptable Use Policies, as well as the charters of numerous newsgroups.

Folks, let's set a follow-up to this so it doesn't bore people to tears. While
 it's off-topic there, I believe the active misbehavior of Chung and his poor
advice to diabetics makes him a reasonable topic of on misc.health.diabetes.
Agreed?
Màck©® - 26 Feb 2008 02:26 GMT
>>>    Again, I really have better things to do with my time than chase after
>>>    Andrews posts that verify your complaints against him.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>   unknown reason, as if presenting proof is a larger burden than it
>   they care to shoulder ?

in a criminal trial, if a lawyer for either side was found to be as
lazy in his own research as you, a mistrial would easily result.  with
stiff penalties against the incompitent lawyer.

>   Also, if the use of reason qualifies one as a "subtle troll", then
>   perhaps reason is best avoided by everyone unwilling to employ it
>   and accept the stigma attached to it's use.
>
>   Thanks for your time, and have a good day.
Tiger_Lily - 25 Feb 2008 17:31 GMT
>> check google groups to see HOW MANY posts Chung makes to HOW MANY groups
>
>   You miss one very important point here, I don't care wqhere Andrew
> posts or what he posts. I know how to use my kill filters when I don't
> like what I see. I suggest you do likewise as it makes things much more
> pleasant.

people have posted the links to google groups for YOU TO SEE

looks like you have chosen to NOT bother to read Chung's past posts that
all verify what people have to say about him

i have Chung kill filed, so i only see people who respond to him and
give him his jollies............. in this case that would be YOU

guess i have another person to add to my killfile

enjoy Andy and his blathering!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Feb 2008 17:37 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForKate
Rod - 25 Feb 2008 18:26 GMT
>>> check google groups to see HOW MANY posts Chung makes to HOW MANY groups
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> people have posted the links to google groups for YOU TO SEE

  You assume that I contend with your statements of Andrews employment
record and academic accomplishments or the lack of them. The original
in this thread that I replied to posted a link which I followed and
read. I do not contend with posts of his employment history, assuming
that was so was extreme stupidity on your part, and you're the only one
able to correct that. What I do contend with is the declaration that he
is "certifiable", made by someone without regard for the harm they can
do to Andrew or whether if posting such as statement is even the "right"
thing to be doing.

  It's my opinion that you are an "innocuous a.s" for basing more of
what you've said on assumptions about what I've said than actual
knowledge of me.

> looks like you have chosen to NOT bother to read Chung's past posts that
> all verify what people have to say about him

  And it looks as if you're assuming things again without making the
effort to learn.

> i have Chung kill filed, so i only see people who respond to him and
> give him his jollies............. in this case that would be YOU

  I'm so sorry that I didn't check with you before to see if I had your
  express permission to speak with Andrew, or anyone else not meeting
  with your approval.

  Thats your problem. Despite the fact that I've found reasoning with
you difficult, as your concepts of justice and fair play are far from
what they should be or could be.

> guess i have another person to add to my killfile

  Your particular unreasonable actions in this post are only a
  barrier to conversation with you, leaving a stigma in the eyes
  of readers that suggests that should they not agree with you
  they will be abused and slandered. I'm certain that one day you
  will have cause to regret these actions, as it is true that
  "what goes around comes back around."

  However, not hearing from you certainly has it's value in reducing
  stress, and is not offensive in the least.

> enjoy Andy and his blathering!

  I assure you, it's preferable to being treated as you have treated
those including me, who do not share your opinions. It seems that in
WW2 the Pols and the Austrians didn't share Hitlers views of the jews
and he invaded their country and murdered their peoples for it.

 I'm sure you'll be able to justify your recent actions to others
 that are of like opinions.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Feb 2008 18:34 GMT
friend Rod wrote in part:
> Tiger_Lily wrote in part:
>
> > i have Chung kill filed, so i only see people who respond to him and
> > give him his jollies............. in this case that would be YOU

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ec826314edea03d?

Yes, the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict dear neighbor
Kate:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

>    I'm so sorry that I didn't check with you before to see if I had your
>    express permission to speak with Andrew, or anyone else not meeting
>    with your approval.

If you truly feel sorry for her, then please pray for her perishing
soul:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForKate

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword
Rod - 25 Feb 2008 19:34 GMT
> friend Rod wrote in part:
>> Tiger_Lily wrote in part:
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> If you truly feel sorry for her, then please pray for her perishing
> soul:

  I do not feel sorry for her at all, she has chosen her path, and the
  turning around is up to her. Are other people responsible for your
actions or mine ? No, they are not, but we are solely responsible to
  bring our actions to our attention when we need correction.

  She has complained about you spamming as have others. if you are in
violation of a group charter then you to must obey the rules as must I,
and if you are not then so be it, the complaint is unjust.

  I have no liking for the court of public opinion, it is mob justice
  at it's worst. Many people here object to the presence of the Name
  of God in your posts, mention of Him in their groups, and feel that
  imposing your belief system on them is unfair, unwise, and violates
  their peace of mind. Are we not to turn away from those refusing to
  hear the message twice or more, and leave them to the Will of Him ?

  They know how to use the kill file as do we, but that is no excuse
  for abusing existing rules and rights, yours, mine or theirs.

  Rod
Tiger_Lily - 25 Feb 2008 23:21 GMT
>>>> check google groups to see HOW MANY posts Chung makes to HOW MANY
>>>> groups
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> do to Andrew or whether if posting such as statement is even the "right"
> thing to be do

show me where *I* said he was *certifiable*.......... i didn't say that

>   It's my opinion that you are an "innocuous a.s" for basing more of
> what you've said on assumptions about what I've said than actual
> knowledge of me.

i've only replied to what you have stated to me..... i know nothing more
 about you than what you have stated here

>> looks like you have chosen to NOT bother to read Chung's past posts
>> that all verify what people have to say about him
>
>   And it looks as if you're assuming things again without making the
> effort to learn.

what do you have to teach me?  show me one statement YOU have made where
i could have learned something from that....

>> i have Chung kill filed, so i only see people who respond to him and
>> give him his jollies............. in this case that would be YOU
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> you difficult, as your concepts of justice and fair play are far from
> what they should be or could be.

Chung posted some information that is incorrect, so i corrected him....
what does this have to do with justice? and fair play? he chose to post,
i chose to post........... he has killed newsgroups entirely with his
off topic posting........ i DO have an issue with that

>> guess i have another person to add to my killfile
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>   will have cause to regret these actions, as it is true that
>   "what goes around comes back around."

abused and slandered....... PULEASE show me where i have abused and
slandered you?

>   However, not hearing from you certainly has it's value in reducing
>   stress, and is not offensive in the least.
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>  I'm sure you'll be able to justify your recent actions to others
>  that are of like opinions.

LOL........ pathetic........ Goodwins rule? Nazi's??
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Feb 2008 17:12 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForKate
Nico Kadel-Garcia - 25 Feb 2008 16:47 GMT
>   I'm a great believer in evidence when a person can be harmed from the
>   expressing of ones opinion. You have a right to believe, as does
>   Andrew, and I don't agree with you but respect your right to believe
>   what you will.

His right to believe is fine. His right to spew like this does not exist, and
he's lost his ISP accounts repeatedly for doing so. He lost a job for his poor
quality of patient care, given his volume of posting it's difficult to believe
he has a job now.

That's not a matter of "belief". That's a matter of record.

>   I hope that no one here will hold your beliefs of Andrew against you
>   as he is not without friends. I certainly will not, and wish you well.

Nothing personal, Rod, but name 2 friends of Andrew. Seriously. Not defenders:
friends.
Chris Malcolm - 27 Dec 2007 13:16 GMT
In alt.support.diabetes yamantaka@aol.com wrote:

> Chung is more soundly and repeatedly rebuked on Usenet than any other
> kook anywhere.

Which demonstrates the remarkable stupidity of those who keep doing it
despite such overwhelming evidence of the futility of their efforts.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 27 Dec 2007 13:40 GMT
> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed:
>
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> Which demonstrates the remarkable stupidity of those who keep doing it
> despite such overwhelming evidence of the futility of their efforts.

On the other hand, rebuking satan results in great rewards from GOD.

May we, who have stopped sinning though we remain sinners, have a
blessedly wonderful New Years ...

... by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Hunger is wonderful :-)

It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
Superghosts - 27 Dec 2007 18:14 GMT
On Dec 27, 8:40 am, "Andrew B. Chung" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com>
wrote:
> On the other hand, rebuking satan results in great rewards from GOD.

Yea, verily. Behold Chung's trophy case:

http://www.caballista.org/auk/kookle.php?search=chung

Rookie Kook of the Year, 2006
Rookie Kook of the Year: "Like Kook of the Year, the Rookie Kook of
the Year award (RKotY) is elected from the best among the past year's
Kooks of the Month. Nominations are *not* accepted for this award.".

Coward of the Year, 2006
Coward of the Year: "Awarded to the most deserving of the year's
Coward of the Month winners.Nominations are *not* accepted for this
award."

Bardley Annual "Whining Baby New Year" Award, 2007
Bardley Annual "Whining Baby New Year" Award: "The Bardley Annual
"Whining Baby New Year" Award is presented annually to the greatest
crybaby on Usenet in a given year."

Kook of the Month, June 2006
Kook of the Month: "Every month special recognition is given to
someone whose Kookery is judged to have surpassed all others. This is
the Kook of the Month award (KotM), voted (somewhat informally) by the
denizens of AUK."

Golden Killfile, November 2006
Golden Killfile: "Given to the most killfile-worthy net.kooks on
Usenet. This award recognizes exceptional killfilable merit; if you
are unworthy enough to be ignored by everyone on the face of the
earth, you are eligible for this award."

Victor von Frankenstein "Weird Science" Award, June 2006
Victor von Frankenstein "Weird Science" Award, February 2007
Victor von Frankenstein "Weird Science" Award: "Given to those
inspired, pioneering visionaries with their worthy inventions,
institutions, and prides-of-joys, who have reasoned it out, who KNOW
The Answer, who would know how to use it to make for a better
humanity... if only somebody would listen to them."

Looney Maroon Award, June 2006
Looney Maroon Award, August 2006
Looney Maroon Award, January 2007
Looney Maroon Award: "The Looney Maroon Award is given based on the
amount of childish, nonsensical, funny and downright ludicrous
behaviour exhibited over a particular month. It is not meant to award
the greatest overall Kook for that time, but is meant as a recognition
of outstandingly looney behaviour by an individual or group, real or
anonymous, animate or robotic. Nominees from Usenet and beyond are
eligible.To win the LMA, a candidate must most strongly meet a
majority of the following criteria:
    Show intelligence off the deep end of the bell curve;    Consistently
say things that are hideously nonsensical;
    Prove themselves wrong while pretending to be an 'expert';
    Exhibit a passion for metaphorically banging their head
    against a wall;
               Be profoundly ignorant ;
    Persistently refuse to allow themselves to be
enlightened;                    Demonstrate a gift for false prophecy ;
               Regularly cite questionable sources of information as
'fact'.

Bob Allisat Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, January 2007
Bob Allisat Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker: "A counterpart to the Pierre
Salinger HL&S (see below) for those who are so gullible that they not
only swallow the hook but leap into the boat, gut and scale
themselves, and make recipe suggestions for their cooking."

George Pickett Memorial Trophy, January 2007
George Pickett Memorial Trophy: "For that which does the greatest
impression of Pickett's Charge in any given month. Winning the Pickett
Trophy generally requires the sacrifice of common sense, decency, and
reputation to win an unwinnable argument, to reverse an imperceptible
slight, or overcome an insurmountable barrier."

Coward of the Month, October 2006
Coward of the Month, November 2006
Coward of the Month, December 2006
Coward of the Month: "Given to the most cowardly, yellow-bellied
Usenet chicken of the month. Anyone who meets the current month's
eligibility bar can get it; like the HL&S and the Palmjob Paddle, this
award is not necessarily reserved for Kooks! Those who hide behind
pseudoanonymous sockpuppets, to say and do things they would not
normally say or do as 'themselves', usually make good candidates; you
can nominate either the sockpuppet or if you know the real name behind
it that person; either way, the sockpuppeteer gets just credit."

Joseph Bartlo "Pathetic Anal Pineapple" Award, October 2006
Joseph Bartlo "Pathetic Anal Pineapple" Award, March 2007
Joseph Bartlo "Pathetic Anal Pineapple" Award: "The "Jojo Pineapple"
is awarded every month to the Usenet poster who best establishes a
pattern of stupidity, idiocy, moronism, silliness, cretinism and
general kookery in a way exemplified by the eponymous founder of this
award, Joseph "Foamboi" Bartlo."

Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, December 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart: "In proud remembrance of the
children's toy who sacrificed his life in Iraq for the cause of
freedom, this award is given to net.kooks whose attempts at Kooky
Kombat go spectacularly wrong. Use of grenades made of solid rubber is
one possible sign of worthiness for this honour."

Busted Urinal Award
Busted Urinal Award: "The reward for the Lamest of the Lame on Usenet.
One who clogs and stinks up the joint like a busted urinal, you could
say."

Unabomber Surprise
Unabomber Surprise: "This award is intended to honor those who have
the gift for saying the least with the most. Those who, for some
reason only they may fathom, more than all others crave the art of
saying infinite amounts of Nothing... and are PROUD OF IT."

Bolo Bullis Foam Duck #24
Bolo Bullis Foam Duck: "The spoonerism for "dumb f.ck", for those
who've lost more marbles than a Chinese Checker factory will ever
make."

George Armstrong Custer "Kicked @$$" Award
George Armstrong Custer "Kicked @$$" Award: "Given to those brave,
inspiring crusaders who will keep up a lost lunatic cause despite all
odds, even after the enemy has won, set up