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Craig - 01 Dec 2007 00:51 GMT
Hi All,
Given a  book by the doc last week, from a pharma company that listed
peanut m&m's as being 33 on the GI.  And a super supreme pizza (brand not
listed) came in at 36. A better choice would be, coming in at 19, pure
fructose.

These items are a lot lower than many of the "healthier" foods on the list,
so I guess would should all sit back enjoy a supreme pizza, along with some
M&M's washed down with some pure fructose, safe in the knowledge that we are
consuming a relatively low GI meal;-))

No... don't do it ...really!!!

Best Wishes,
Craig, Type 2
NSW, Australia
Will, T2 - 01 Dec 2007 01:01 GMT
>Hi All,
> Given a  book by the doc last week, from a pharma company that listed
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>Craig, Type 2
>NSW, Australia

Hi Craig,

Actually, I think a Snickers Bar comes in somewhere in the 40s... I
admit, I did sneak one during Halloween this year. It was delightful!

You are right, though... I think these fructose things are
problematic.

Will, T2
Craig - 01 Dec 2007 02:38 GMT
> Hi Craig,
>
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>
> Will, T2

Hi Will,
Nice to "catch up". I must admit I used to like the almond Snickers,
although they do not taste quite the same here as the ones in the US, which
is a good thing for me:) Don't know why; different manufacturing process?
Here's to hoping life is treating you kindly today.
Craig
rk - 02 Dec 2007 03:54 GMT
| > Hi Craig,
| >
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
| Here's to hoping life is treating you kindly today.
| Craig

I can tell you, that Snickers taste different in Hawaii then they do on
the
mainland.

rk, t1
Craig - 02 Dec 2007 21:07 GMT
> I can tell you, that Snickers taste different in Hawaii then they do on
> the
> mainland.
>
> rk, t1

Hi Reisa,
Pleased to know that it's not just me that thinks so.

Hope you are feeling o.k and wishing you well for the approaching festive
season and coming year.
Craig
Jackie Patti - 01 Dec 2007 01:32 GMT
> Hi All,
>  Given a  book by the doc last week, from a pharma company that listed
> peanut m&m's as being 33 on the GI.  And a super supreme pizza (brand not
> listed) came in at 36. A better choice would be, coming in at 19, pure
> fructose.

Most simple sugars are six ring structures, but fructose is a five-ring
structure and this makes it a lot more complex for the body to convert
to glucose, so little of it converts and it has minimal effect on bg.

The problem is what happens to instead.  Fructose is removed from the
blood by the liver and converted to triglycerides.  Then it's dumped
back out into the blood to be picked up and stored elsewhere.

In short, fructose doesn't raise your bg much, instead it raises serum
triglycerides.  If you're lucky and it doesn't clog up your coronary
arteries on it's way, it winds up stored in adipose.

In short, fructose doesn't raise bg much, instead it makes you fat and
raises your risk for heart disease.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 01 Dec 2007 02:16 GMT
This is why trusting your meter to guide you in your "way of
eating" (WOE) is foolhardy.

Wiser to trust your food scale:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/EatLess

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthy

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.

> > Hi All,
> >  Given a  book by the doc last week, from a pharma company that listed
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> --
> http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/
Craig - 01 Dec 2007 02:49 GMT
> Most simple sugars are six ring structures, but fructose is a five-ring
> structure and this makes it a lot more complex for the body to convert to
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> In short, fructose doesn't raise bg much, instead it makes you fat and
> raises your risk for heart disease.

Hi Jackie Patti,
Thanks for elucidating the metabolic details of fructose. This is the great
thing about these groups, threads can wander back and forth and sometimes,
as is the case with your post, someone posts useful stuff in the midst.
Thank you.
Best Wishes,
Craig
Frank t2 - 20 Dec 2007 04:23 GMT
" Craig" <craigandbeth@bigpond.com> a écrit  ...

>> Most simple sugars are six ring structures, but fructose is a five-ring
>> structure and this makes it a lot more complex for the body to convert to
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Best Wishes,
> Craig

I agree entirely,  Craig.
But I think it also depends on the goodwill of the good people in here.

They are the ones who put 'little gems' inside seemingly strange threads ...
W. Baker - 01 Dec 2007 20:29 GMT
: > Hi All,
: >  Given a  book by the doc last week, from a pharma company that listed
: > peanut m&m's as being 33 on the GI.  And a super supreme pizza (brand not
: > listed) came in at 36. A better choice would be, coming in at 19, pure
: > fructose.

: Most simple sugars are six ring structures, but fructose is a five-ring
: structure and this makes it a lot more complex for the body to convert
: to glucose, so little of it converts and it has minimal effect on bg.

: The problem is what happens to instead.  Fructose is removed from the
: blood by the liver and converted to triglycerides.  Then it's dumped
: back out into the blood to be picked up and stored elsewhere.

: In short, fructose doesn't raise your bg much, instead it raises serum
: triglycerides.  If you're lucky and it doesn't clog up your coronary
: arteries on it's way, it winds up stored in adipose.

: In short, fructose doesn't raise bg much, instead it makes you fat and
: raises your risk for heart disease.

From what I am currently reading in Taubes, that pathway should cause you
to have higher VLVD's and lower HDLs.  All bad cardiovascular news!

Wendy
 
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