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I ate rice. I'm paying the price.

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Nick Cramer - 29 Nov 2007 04:12 GMT
Jun's friend brought me a tray of 8 pieces of Nigiri sushi, 2 shrimp, 2
tuna, 4 crab/avocado, and a tray of "Caterpiller roll", which I think was
cooked eel on a rice roll with crabmeat, a breaded, fried shrimp stuck in
each end. Enjoyed with wasabi, pickled ginger and soy sauce. It's been so
long since I've had sushi that I forgot to take my FBG before starting.
Didn't watch my rice intake, either. One hour BG 234. <sigh>

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Larry - 29 Nov 2007 04:20 GMT
> Jun's friend brought me a tray of 8 pieces of Nigiri sushi, 2 shrimp, 2
> tuna, 4 crab/avocado, and a tray of "Caterpiller roll", which I think was
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Nick: Don't feel too bad.. Every now and again it happens to alot of
us. If your BG at 234 came "down" pretty fast ie. 2 hrs later you
should feel even better..

Larry
Nick Cramer - 29 Nov 2007 04:36 GMT
> > Jun's friend brought me a tray of 8 pieces of Nigiri sushi, 2 shrimp, 2
> > tuna, 4 crab/avocado, and a tray of "Caterpiller roll", which I think
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> us. If your BG at 234 came "down" pretty fast ie. 2 hrs later you
> should feel even better..

Thanks for reminding me, Larry. I forgot to take the two hour. Just went
and took the three hour. 327. Arrrrrrrgh! Jun heard that and brought me
five Thai fatalajon pellets (500 mg raw, unprocessed Andrographis
Paniculata). Told me to check my BG in another hour. My sweet jungle girl!

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Nick Cramer - 29 Nov 2007 05:52 GMT
> > On Nov 28, 8:12=EF=BF=BDpm, Nick Cramer <n_cramerS...@pacbell.net>
> > wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Paniculata). Told me to check my BG in another hour. My sweet jungle
> girl!

I hour after fatalajon, BG 274. I'll check again in another hour. @#$%^&

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Nick Cramer - 29 Nov 2007 08:12 GMT
> > > On Nov 28, 8:12=EF=BF=BDpm, Nick Cramer <n_cramerS...@pacbell.net>
> > > wrote:
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>
> I hour after fatalajon, BG 274. I'll check again in another hour. @#$%^&

2 hours after fatalajon, BG 109! I'll sleep happy tonight. Thanks, my sweet
jungle girl! ;-))

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Nick Cramer - 30 Nov 2007 00:17 GMT
> > > > On Nov 28, 8:12=EF=BF=BDpm, Nick Cramer <n_cramerS...@pacbell.net>
> > > > wrote:
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> 2 hours after fatalajon, BG 109! I'll sleep happy tonight. Thanks, my
> sweet jungle girl! ;-))

FBG 102! HbA1c (11/20) 4.3!

Dinner is served. 1/2 pompano, fried with garlic slivers, steamed broccoli
and nam prik kee gaa. Eat while hot.

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Nick Cramer - 30 Nov 2007 02:41 GMT
> > > > > On Nov 28, 8:12=EF=BF=BDpm, Nick Cramer
> > > > > <n_cramerS...@pacbell.net> wrote:
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> Dinner is served. 1/2 pompano, fried with garlic slivers, steamed
> broccoli and nam prik kee gaa. Eat while hot.

One hour BG 174. ;-/

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Ozgirl - 30 Nov 2007 02:49 GMT
"Nick Cramer" <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:20071129214138.596

>> Dinner is served. 1/2 pompano, fried with garlic slivers, steamed
>> broccoli and nam prik kee gaa. Eat while hot.
>
> One hour BG 174. ;-/

What is pompano and nam prik kee gaa?
Nick Cramer - 30 Nov 2007 03:11 GMT
> "Nick Cramer" <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>
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>
> What is pompano and nam prik kee gaa?

Pompano is a very delicious fish. It's a nice treat for me. ;-)

Jun's Nam Prik Kii Gaa (Spicy Crow Poop) Dipping Sauce:

You will appreciate Pee Jun's scientific precision (and my parenthetical
'refinements')

1 full hand Jalapenos, chopped (2 cups?)
1 big red onion, chopped (1 cup?)
gra tiem or garlic, crushed or chopped (1 cup?)

pan-fry, no oil, until nicely done (?)

1 handful (1 cup?) dried shrimp

Pound in mortar or blend in blender or food processor. Add:

2 or 3 Tablespoons lime juice, to taste
2 or 3 Tablespoons Fish Sauce or Nam Pla, to taste. Better too little than
too much.
1 or 2 Tablespoons sugar, to taste

Adjust consistency to be like a dip, with hot water if  necessary. Good as
a dip with cucumber, celery, carrot, broccoli, etc.

NOTE: Jun also uses canned tuna or salmon as part of the shrimp allotment,
 and Splenda instead of sugar in mine.

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Ozgirl - 30 Nov 2007 03:19 GMT
>> "Nick Cramer" <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>>
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> NOTE: Jun also uses canned tuna or salmon as part of the shrimp allotment,
>  and Splenda instead of sugar in mine.

Weird, doesn't look like anything there to spike. What was pre dinner
reading?
Nick Cramer - 30 Nov 2007 03:28 GMT
> "Nick Cramer" <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> >> "Nick Cramer" <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> Weird, doesn't look like anything there to spike. What was pre dinner
> reading?

My FBG was 102, but that was five hours before I ate the above. JUn brought
the plate in, set it next to the keyboard, I took a pic to post on
alt.binaries.food, and chowed down.

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Alan S - 30 Nov 2007 06:05 GMT
>> "Nick Cramer" <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>>
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>NOTE: Jun also uses canned tuna or salmon as part of the shrimp allotment,
>  and Splenda instead of sugar in mine.

Nothing there to spike you; what were the sides?

This caught my eye: "gra tiem or garlic, crushed or chopped
(1 cup?)". A cup of garlic? I hope you harness the results
to help the environment by powering your house.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
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Nick Cramer - 30 Nov 2007 12:02 GMT
> >> "Nick Cramer" <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> >> [ . . . ]
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> (1 cup?)". A cup of garlic? I hope you harness the results
> to help the environment by powering your house.

No sides. Turns out she was late for an appointment (work, ya know) and
gave me the Nam Prik with sugar instead of Splenda.

Garlic? I've been eating garlic in these quantities for decades. A dog
doesn't smell his own . . . etc. ;-D

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Alan S - 30 Nov 2007 22:10 GMT
>> >> "Nick Cramer" <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>> >> [ . . . ]
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>No sides. Turns out she was late for an appointment (work, ya know) and
>gave me the Nam Prik with sugar instead of Splenda.

Aha! I'm sure she is a wonderful cook, but one of the
reasons I cook for myself is that I control everything that
goes in my food.

>Garlic? I've been eating garlic in these quantities for decades. A dog
>doesn't smell his own . . . etc. ;-D

I love garlic too, and eat it daily. It's good for me. But
that's a clove or two. A cup would be twenty or thirty
cloves. Wow...

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Alice Faber - 30 Nov 2007 03:19 GMT
> "Nick Cramer" <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:20071129214138.596
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>
> What is pompano and nam prik kee gaa?

I was thinking a pompano is like a grapefruit. I'll let Nick describe
the other; I think it's a kind of sauce, but I could be way off base.

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Nick Cramer - 30 Nov 2007 03:32 GMT
> > "Nick Cramer" <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> > news:20071129214138.596
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> I was thinking a pompano is like a grapefruit. I'll let Nick describe
> the other; I think it's a kind of sauce, but I could be way off base.

You're thinking of the pomelo, aka Chinese grapefruit. You're right about
the Nam Prik Kii Gaa, too. B!

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Alice Faber - 30 Nov 2007 03:44 GMT
> > > "Nick Cramer" <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> > > news:20071129214138.596
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> You're thinking of the pomelo, aka Chinese grapefruit. You're right about
> the Nam Prik Kii Gaa, too. B!

Yep...thanks for setting me straight. The sauce sounds delicious.

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Kurt - 30 Nov 2007 03:45 GMT
> "Nick Cramer" <n_cramerS...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>
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>
> What is pompano and nam prik kee gaa?

The names of the kids Angelina Jolie is thinking of adopting next.

Kurt
Ozgirl - 30 Nov 2007 04:12 GMT
On Nov 29, 6:49?pm, "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_...@maccas.com> wrote:
> "Nick Cramer" <n_cramerS...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>
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>
> What is pompano and nam prik kee gaa?

The names of the kids Angelina Jolie is thinking of adopting next.

lmao.
Paul L - 29 Nov 2007 15:29 GMT
>> > On Nov 28, 8:12=EF=BF=BDpm, Nick Cramer <n_cramerS...@pacbell.net>
>> > wrote:
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>
> I hour after fatalajon, BG 274. I'll check again in another hour. @#$%^&

Take two drams of single malt and call me in the morning.

cheers

Paul
Julie Bove - 29 Nov 2007 04:35 GMT
> Jun's friend brought me a tray of 8 pieces of Nigiri sushi, 2 shrimp, 2
> tuna, 4 crab/avocado, and a tray of "Caterpiller roll", which I think was
> cooked eel on a rice roll with crabmeat, a breaded, fried shrimp stuck in
> each end. Enjoyed with wasabi, pickled ginger and soy sauce. It's been so
> long since I've had sushi that I forgot to take my FBG before starting.
> Didn't watch my rice intake, either. One hour BG 234. <sigh>

Yep.  I can't eat sushi rice.  I can eat regular rice, but only a small
amount.  I usually have it mixed with soup.  The only time I seem to be able
to eat a large amount of it is when my gastroparesis is acting up and I am
throwing up.  Then it seems to move right through me when nothing else will.
Nick Cramer - 29 Nov 2007 04:58 GMT
> > Jun's friend brought me a tray of 8 pieces of Nigiri sushi, 2 shrimp, 2
> > tuna, 4 crab/avocado, and a tray of "Caterpiller roll", which I think
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> and I am throwing up.  Then it seems to move right through me when
> nothing else will.

Julie, have you tried Thai rice soup(Kao Tom)? This is very close to what
Jun makes, except she uses fresh, fried minced garlic and adds ground white
pepper, instead of dried red chile flakes. This excellent "chicken soup" is
especially nice for invalids and babies, with its soft, digestible rice--a
barely coddled, protein-rich egg--tender, ground pork bits--and
appetite-stimulating spices. (The chilis really pack a wallop, so be
careful!) The soup is also traditional for breakfast. Serve this hot to 2
people to coax their appetites--or double the recipe for a savory breakfast
or lunch for 4 people. Leave out whatever you can't handle. When I've been
real, throwing up, sick, she's made it with just the rice and half chicken
stock and half water, for me. Like Bobe's chicken soup, this should be
eaten as hot as you can stand it!

   * 2 cups light chicken stock
   * 1/4 cup ground pork
   * 1/2 cup cooked rice
   * 1 Tablespoon nam pla or other fish sauce
* 2 small eggs

Garnish: 2 teaspoons finely minced fresh ginger root; 2 teaspoons minced
 cilantro; 1 minced green onion; 1 teaspoon golden friend onion flakes
 (which you can make by tossing dried onion flakes in an oil slicked
 frying pan); and 1/8-1/2 teaspoon dried red chilis, minced

In a saucepan, bring the stock to a boil and add the ground pork, stirring
to break it up. Reduce heat to a simmer, stir in the cooked rice, and
simmer for 2 minutes [even up to 1/2 hour - Nick]. Season with the fish
sauce.

When ready to serve, break a whole egg into each individual bowl. Bring the
soup to a boil and ladle over the egg yolks. Garnish with ginger, cilantro,
green onions, onion flakes, and as much chili as you think you can handle.
Cover the bowls with lids, let sit for a minute to let the egg poach, then
serve to your sick chicks.

Take care.

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Susan - 29 Nov 2007 15:06 GMT
> Jun's friend brought me a tray of 8 pieces of Nigiri sushi, 2 shrimp, 2
> tuna, 4 crab/avocado, and a tray of "Caterpiller roll", which I think was
> cooked eel on a rice roll with crabmeat, a breaded, fried shrimp stuck in
> each end. Enjoyed with wasabi, pickled ginger and soy sauce. It's been so
> long since I've had sushi that I forgot to take my FBG before starting.
> Didn't watch my rice intake, either. One hour BG 234. <sigh>

Nick you didn't eat just rice, you ate rice with *sugar* added, and crab
stick with sugar added.

YOWZER.

Susan
Loretta Eisenberg - 29 Nov 2007 19:48 GMT
Nick, you didnt forget to take your fbg,  You probably saw the sushi,
something you love, and said to hell with it. lol

It wasnt a pretty sight.  maybe you can cut out the fried stuff.

how about sashimi

Loretta
Nick Cramer - 30 Nov 2007 02:37 GMT
> Nick, you didnt forget to take your fbg,  You probably saw the sushi,
> something you love, and said to hell with it. lol
>
> It wasnt a pretty sight.  maybe you can cut out the fried stuff.
>
> how about sashimi

Sashimi really is my favorite. When I used to go to sushi bars, I would
always order a platter of mixed sashimi. Jun felt so bad about getting me
that sushi yesterday. Told me it was for two days. When I get a craving for
raw fish, she says she'll drive me down to Mitsuwa in Little Tokyo for some
sashimi grade. ;-)

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