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Zed - 28 Nov 2007 01:06 GMT http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Oz Since I started following Dr. Oz's recommendations in April 2007, I have lost 35 lbs. I'm in better shape now than I've been in over 20 years. My last check up was in March 2007. High cholesterol, high blood pressure, in the beginning stages of congestive heart failure, palpitations, tachycardia, excellent candidate for type 2 diabetes etc. The way things are going, by March 2008 when I go in for my next yearly physical, I'm expecting my doctor to be very pleasantly surprised. Perfect BMI, perfect BP, perfect cholesterol levels, no sign of heart enlargement. Perfect health. Maximum fitness. What I've learned from Dr. Oz is how to properly understand health and nutrition. Just as eating poorly, getting obese and acquiring heath problems was second nature, now eating healthy, losing 5 lbs. a month (that's 60 lbs. in one year bringing me to a perfect BMI), and bursting with vitality is now second ingrained nature. It's become so easy and so natural, It's becoming hard understand why I had such a problem with eating my whole
em - 28 Nov 2007 06:55 GMT > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Oz > Since I started following Dr. Oz's recommendations in April 2007, I > have lost 35 lbs. I'm in better shape now than I've been in over 20 > years. I did some googling on this guy. He's written a number of books on diet and longevity. What does he recommend in terms of foods? Low-carb?
> My last check up was in March 2007. High cholesterol, high > blood pressure, in the beginning stages of congestive heart failure, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > becoming hard understand why I had such a problem with eating my > whole Zed - 28 Nov 2007 18:05 GMT > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Oz > > Since I started following Dr. Oz's recommendations in April 2007, I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I did some googling on this guy. He's written a number of books on diet and > longevity. What does he recommend in terms of foods? Low-carb? To tell the truth, most of what I've learned from him so far has come by way of his appearances on the Oprah show. One day while I was channel surfing, I saw this guy in scrubs demonstrating various things in regard to heath and nutrition. I decided that when I began my efforts to become physically fit, to go at it piecemeal taking baby steps, rather than getting all hyped up only to have it fizzle.
Anyways, what I've learned in terms of food, is pretty much what Jack LaLanne has always said: "if man made it, don't eat it". And to that, seek that which is purely nutritional and beneficial. Dr. Oz goes through many different types of foods to emphasize their benefits. Many of these we already know about such as green vegetables like spinach and broccoli. He also points out foods that are high in antioxidants and other beneficial things like lycopine found in tomato based products. As far as carbs go, the emphasis in on only eating whole grains. Not multi grain, but whole grain. At first I was eliminating any and all carbs as much as I could, but then learned about the extreme benefits of whole grains in digestion and metabolism. I pretty much stick to whole wheat low sodium bread, and especially whole wheat pasta. Sometimes I use the whole wheat pasta with Classico Roasted Garlic spaghetti sauce since it is by far the lowest in sodium compared to all the other regular off the shelf brands I've checked. Or I use it in stir fry as lo mein. The whole wheat pasta has a heartier consistency to it, likening it lo mein. I've also leaned to use canola oil, which in also high in omega 3. Oils found in canola and flaxseed have tremendous overall benefits in basically keeping your whole machine lubed. The test for an oil is to put in the fridge. If it stays clear, then its healthy. If it gets cloudy it's less healthy. If it turns into a solid mass, like extra virgin olive oil does, then it's even less healthy. (but still good for anointing).
My diet, and I haven't read a single diet book or followed anyone's exact plan, so far has been: Mainly fish only (mostly Tilapia and Salmon). Regular vegetables; broccoli, green beans, spinach, carrots, peas, corn etc. An apple or two a day. And whole wheat. My desire for junk food has been replaced by my desire for nutritional food. All that junk is just plain addictive the same as cigarettes IMHO. I very slowly weaned myself off of it and turned to wholesome home made foods. I find the stuff I used to enjoy eating not particularly appetizing anymore. And since I no longer relay on food as a comfort, an indulgence, a reward etc. I of course eat a lot less. However, I expect it to take at least 12 to 18 months for this to begin to become a fully and permanently ingrained lifestyle behavior. Mehmet Oz is just such and appealing down to earth and compassionate guy, coupled with being vastly knowledgeable and highly skilled, you can't help but want to follow his advice. Sometimes he utilizes shock tactics as well by actually displaying the diseased body parts of those who died untimely deaths as a result of poor lifestyle (but he manages to be quite endearing as well as entertaining in the process). The most dramatic demonstration I've seen so far, was him performing a bypass on a patient who had a high fat high cholesterol diet with no exercise her whole life. Her heart needless to say was horrifying to look at; over sized, sluggish and covered with lumpy fat. I've also learned to boost my vitamin intake of A, B, C, D and E as well. Man oh man, do I feel good. No fads. No techniques. Just a growing knowledge and understanding of really good basic nutrition. I'm not even trying to lose weight at this point. Excess body fat loss is now just a natural result of healthy living, just as excess body fat gain was a result of unhealthy living. The sad thing is, I used to think I took reasonably good care of myself. I blamed my excess 60 lbs of body fat on a slow metabolism. And of course I had a slow metabolism, because I was fueling it so poorly. I took the Real Age Test here http://www.realage.com/doctorcenter/intro.aspx and received lots of helpful tailored info (without receiving a boatload of SPAM).
Jo Anne - 28 Nov 2007 21:59 GMT >Anyways, what I've learned in terms of food, is pretty much what Jack >LaLanne has always said: "if man made it, don't eat it". ...
>I've also leaned to use canola oil, which in also high in omega 3. Canola oil is a genetically engineered man-made product.
Jo Anne
Tiger Lily - 28 Nov 2007 22:17 GMT Rapeseed that expressed the 'best' of the plant's essences were brought together to make what is now known as Canola in the fields
and this is dangerous?? HOW?
>>Anyways, what I've learned in terms of food, is pretty much what Jack >>LaLanne has always said: "if man made it, don't eat it". [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Jo Anne Zed - 28 Nov 2007 22:47 GMT > >Anyways, what I've learned in terms of food, is pretty much what Jack > >LaLanne has always said: "if man made it, don't eat it". [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Canola oil is a genetically engineered man-made product. Oops, sorry Jack. I don't carry that "if man made it, don't eat it" philosophy to the nth degree, at least not yet anyway. I tend to apply it more to processed junk foods.
Ozgirl - 28 Nov 2007 23:01 GMT >>Anyways, what I've learned in terms of food, is pretty much what Jack >>LaLanne has always said: "if man made it, don't eat it". [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Canola oil is a genetically engineered man-made product. Not true.
wifezilla@gmail.com - 28 Nov 2007 23:07 GMT Canola oil is considered "healthy" because it is low in saturated fats. Since we now know that saturated fat ISN'T the problem, why use canola oil?
Well, it's cheap.
Tiger Lily - 28 Nov 2007 23:50 GMT Canola oil is a GOOD source for Omega 3 oils
THAT is why we use it
> Canola oil is considered "healthy" because it is low in saturated > fats. Since we now know that saturated fat ISN'T the problem, why use > canola oil? > > Well, it's cheap. Kaz Kylheku - 29 Nov 2007 00:10 GMT > Canola oil is a GOOD source for Omega 3 oils Yes, the plant seeds actually are, and this is preserved in fresh, cold-pressed, unrefined canola oil.
Alpha-linolenic acid is very sensitive. It won't survive a process involving chemical extraction, heating, bleaching, deodorizing, etc.
Under these processes, some of it turns into trans fat!
This is what Mary Enig writes about canola oil in an article titled the ``The Great Can-Ola Scam, Part 2'':
``[...] because canola oil is high in omega-3 fatty acids, which easily become rancid and foul-smelling when subjected to oxygen and high temperatures, it must be deodorized. The standard deodorization process removes a large portion of the omega-3 fatty acids by turning them into trans fatty acids. Although the Canadian government lists the trans content of canola at a minimal 0.2 percent, research at the University of Florida at Gainesville, found trans levels as high as 4.6 percent in commercial liquid oil.24 The consumer has no clue about the presence of trans fatty acids in canola oil because they are not listed on the label.''
The cited reference #24 is this:
S O'Keefe and others. Levels of Trans Geometrical Isomers of Essential Fatty Acids in Some Unhydrogenated US Vegetable Oils. Journal of Food Lipids 1994;1:165-176.
Yes, that jug of tasteless, clear, cheap canola oil that you can keep unrefrigerated on the shelf for years and use for deep frying has little omega 3, and as much as 4% trans fat.
Oleg Lego - 29 Nov 2007 04:15 GMT >Canola oil is a GOOD source for Omega 3 oils > >THAT is why we use it That, and I'll probably be growing a field of it next year. :-)
 Signature Larry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada. DX 24 Aug 07. D&E Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin Last A1c 8.1 (at DX)
Kaz Kylheku - 28 Nov 2007 23:37 GMT > >Anyways, what I've learned in terms of food, is pretty much what Jack > >LaLanne has always said: "if man made it, don't eat it". [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Canola oil is a genetically engineered man-made product. That's not exactly true. It's the product of selective breeding, not genetic engineering.
The biggest problem is that the majority of the canola oil commercially available to consumers is garbage.
Real alpha-linolenic acid has to be refrigerated and consumed quickly because it oxidizes. (And it cannot be used for cooking).
Whereas the typical store-bought canola oil can be kept on the shelf for months. That's wrong, and it shows that the alpha-linolenic acid in the original oil has been destroyed by processing.
In other words, this type of canola product has zero biologically useful omega-3.
You want fresh, cold-pressed, unrefined canola oil. And of course, you want to avoid using it for cooking; heat destroys the omega-3 fatty acid.
Mehmet Oz should know all this.
Zed - 29 Nov 2007 00:11 GMT > > >Anyways, what I've learned in terms of food, is pretty much what Jack > > >LaLanne has always said: "if man made it, don't eat it". [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Mehmet Oz should know all this. Actually he was very specific about keeping it refrigerated and not heating it.
Kaz Kylheku - 29 Nov 2007 01:53 GMT > > Mehmet Oz should know all this. > > Actually he was very specific about keeping it refrigerated and not > heating it. That doesn't make sense with the widely available refined canola oil, which was heated during processing, and isn't kept refrigerated in the supermarket. You're locking the barn door after the horse has fled. The horse, of course, being a metaphor for all traces of nutrition.
Does Oz make all of that clear?
I wouldn't bother with the cold-pressed, unrefined canola oil simply because, well, it has competition. If I could find it, why would I spend money on that instead of flax oil? Price? I don't consume enough of this type of stuff to worry about cost. The daily tablespoon is pennies.
Zed - 29 Nov 2007 05:49 GMT > > > Mehmet Oz should know all this. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > supermarket. You're locking the barn door after the horse has fled. > The horse, of course, being a metaphor for all traces of nutrition. I think it might have had to do with freshness. They keep mayonase on the shelf un refrigerated for weeks or months too -- but after you open it...
> Does Oz make all of that clear? I dunno, I don't keep track of his every word and deed. All I know is his general guidance has helped towards my loosing 35 lbs. and I think he's a cool dude.
Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me. Revelation 3:20
Cubit - 29 Nov 2007 19:28 GMT > Anyways, what I've learned in terms of food, is pretty much what Jack > LaLanne has always said: "if man made it, don't eat it". I love that quote.
I had not heard that quote before.
w - 01 Dec 2007 08:36 GMT > Excess body fat loss is now just a natural result of > healthy living, just as excess body fat gain was a result of unhealthy > living. Body fat gain is overconsumption, loss is balanced or underconsumption (relative to your overeating). That's it, period.
Chris Malcolm - 01 Dec 2007 11:12 GMT In alt.support.diabetes w <loverlyvagina@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Excess body fat loss is now just a natural result of >> healthy living, just as excess body fat gain was a result of unhealthy >> living.
> Body fat gain is overconsumption, loss is balanced or underconsumption > (relative to your overeating). That's it, period. It seems to have escaped your notice that not only can we change how much we eat, but we can also change how much we need to eat. Therefore it is possible to change from weight loss to weight gain (or vice versa) without changing how much you eat.
 Signature Chris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 01 Dec 2007 11:18 GMT > In alt.support.diabetes w <loverlyvagina@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > it is possible to change from weight loss to weight gain (or vice > versa) without changing how much you eat. It is difficult/impossible to dissuade people from their favorites foods for the rest of their lives.
Numerous examples abound in the archives of ASD.
Thankfully, folks using the 2PD-OMER Approach can continue eating their favorites, just less :-)
http://HeartMDPhD.com/EatLess
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthy
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
Zed - 01 Dec 2007 16:23 GMT > In alt.support.diabetes w <loverlyvag...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > it is possible to change from weight loss to weight gain (or vice > versa) without changing how much you eat. I've found that for me personally, that eating less now just comes naturally. Now that I view food as nutrition instead of an indulgence, I don't have the desire to stuff my belly like I used to. I'd say I eat at least 40% less than I used to, because I no longer have that drive to feel stuffed. I'm no longer seeking foods that stick to my ribs, I'm seeking nutrition. If it's not nutritious, it's unappetizing to me. Once I've taken in enough nutrition, I'm satisfied. But it's still good eats, people who sample my cooking think it's delicious. But these days I'm more interested in what's in it and how it's going to benefit me nutritionally, than just how it tastes.
MU - 02 Dec 2007 06:39 GMT > In alt.support.diabetes w <loverlyvagina@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > it is possible to change from weight loss to weight gain (or vice > versa) without changing how much you eat. It seems to have escaped your notice that when you change how much you eat, you invariably change how much you need to eat. Therefore it is impossible to change from weight loss to weight gain without changing how much you eat once at 2 pounds per day.
Oleg Lego - 02 Dec 2007 15:59 GMT >> In alt.support.diabetes w <loverlyvagina@gmail.com> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >it is impossible to change from weight loss to weight gain without changing >how much you eat once at 2 pounds per day. Sock puppet.
 Signature Larry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada. DX 24 Aug 07. D&E Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin Last A1c 8.1 (at DX)
MU - 03 Dec 2007 02:07 GMT >>>> Body fat gain is overconsumption, loss is balanced or underconsumption >>>> (relative to your overeating). That's it, period. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Sock puppet. *plonk*
Zed - 01 Dec 2007 15:59 GMT > > Excess body fat loss is now just a natural result of > > healthy living, just as excess body fat gain was a result of unhealthy > > living. > > Body fat gain is overconsumption, loss is balanced or underconsumption > (relative to your overeating). That's it, period. Exactly. Unhealthy living was my natural lifestyle. The problem with diet plans for me, is that they require strained living, where I have to dogedly follow a forced regimen. The ingrained predilection towards an unhealthy lifestyle is still there, it's just being repressed by the forced regimen. When I lose a certain amount of weight under those conditions and a goal is finally reached after a tough uphill battle, the drive to keep up the forced regimen starts to wilt, and the ingrained desire for the good 'ol days of over eating and junk food takes command again.
I'm losing 5 lbs. a month very easily and pleasantly because I retrained my brain (which is something I originally learned to do in order to cope with severe tinnitus) to regard food in an entirely different way. Each and every day I think just a tiny bit more like a "fitness nut". I read or listen to just a little bit of something by people like Dr. Oz or Jack LaLanne and use them/it as a role model and learning tool, to very slowly reshape my way of thinking. I don't count calories or weigh anything or follow a written out structured regimens or keep a journal, because I'm developing good eating habits as second nature. Something that I don't have to think about or keep track of, it just happens of its own accord. Unhealthy living required no perceived effort, likewise healthy living should require no perceived effort if it's to last me a lifetime.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 28 Nov 2007 14:02 GMT Wiser to make LORD Jesus Christ your hero:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
GOD is the Source of all healing:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Healer.asp
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthy
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Oz > Since I started following Dr. Oz's recommendations in April 2007, I [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > becoming hard understand why I had such a problem with eating my > whole Zed - 28 Nov 2007 18:23 GMT > Wiser to make LORD Jesus Christ your hero: Jesus is my Master and Savior. Dr. Oz is my hero only rhetorically speaking, of course.
gvk2six@yahoo.com - 28 Nov 2007 19:03 GMT > > Wiser to make LORD Jesus Christ your hero: > > Jesus is my Master and Savior. Dr. Oz is my hero only rhetorically > speaking, of course. Just curious, but "what would Jesus eat?" now, and "what did he eat?" then.
We never see a fat Jesus, so perhaps he had some secret. Then again, I'm guessing there was lots of walking back then.
Kaz Kylheku - 28 Nov 2007 23:40 GMT On Nov 28, 11:03 am, gvk2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > Wiser to make LORD Jesus Christ your hero: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Just curious, but "what would Jesus eat?" now, and "what did he > eat?" then. Jesus ate a lot of fish. Bread too, but quality stuff. And a little wine here and there.
> We never see a fat Jesus, so perhaps he had some secret. Jesus was totally ripped with six pack abs. Look at all the depictions in Western art---gothic, Renaissance, you name it.
> Then again, I'm guessing there was lots of walking back > then. Ultramarathoning from one end of Galilee to the other.
Bad for the muscle mass, though.
Plan.YandZ@yahoo.com - 30 Nov 2007 20:17 GMT > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Oz > Since I started following Dr. Oz's recommendations in April 2007, I [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > becoming hard understand why I had such a problem with eating my > whole Hey --
I started taking Rhodiola based on twenty seconds of Oz on the late- night airing of Oprah. He was talking about it as a libido enhancer, I think, but he kept referring to it as an adaptogen. He also said it reduced cortisol levels.
So I bought some and started taking it and I gotta say I have never had such a noticeable, gradual improvement in symptoms ( stress bombed, insomniac, lowwwww energy, foggy thinking) than I have with this weird little herb. Also my body composition is changing. This could also be due to diet and exercise, but I was developing sort of a corticocomplex under my arms, at my bra strap and under my chin which I knew was due to my weird adrenal meltdown. It's better now. Really a *lot* better.
:). All from twenty seconds of Oz on Oprah.
c
That Barney Rubble! He sure can run!
Kaz Kylheku - 30 Nov 2007 20:55 GMT On Nov 30, 12:17 pm, Plan.Ya...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Also my body composition is changing. This > could also be due to diet and exercise, but I was developing sort of a > corticocomplex under my arms, at my bra strap and under my chin which Google: ``Your search - corticocomplex - did not match any documents.''
You're not just making sh.t up, but creating new words, too!
Plan.YandZ@yahoo.com - 30 Nov 2007 21:20 GMT > On Nov 30, 12:17 pm, Plan.Ya...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > You're not just making sh.t up, but creating new words, too! :). hey man, that's how I roll.
Corticocomplex: (n) a composition of fat deposits on the upper abdomen, upper back, shoulders, biceps, jaw and the back of the neck; also "moon face" and "buffalo hump" deposits, reflecting an abnormal cortisol fluctuation due to disease in the adrenal/pituitary axis or hormone-modulating drugs such as therapeutic steroids.
Of course there are no documents about this on Google! Doncha know all the cool people are already on Internet 2?
c Not that I'm on Internet 2. But I bet they say "corticocomplex" over there all the time.
Ophelia - 01 Dec 2007 15:00 GMT >> On Nov 30, 12:17 pm, Plan.Ya...@yahoo.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Not that I'm on Internet 2. But I bet they say "corticocomplex" over > there all the time. LOL
b_todten@yahoo.com - 03 Dec 2007 15:08 GMT On Nov 30, 1:17 pm, Plan.Ya...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Oz > > Since I started following Dr. Oz's recommendations in April 2007, I [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > That Barney Rubble! He sure can run! I've been using Rhodiola for quite a long while before Oz had that brief clip about the herb. All I can say is "WOW," but I am also glad I didn't do the weird Oz practice of putting it in vodka.
Instead, we use the one that has all the clinical trials, the Swedish brand (Swedish Herbal Institute) which you buy off the web and not in stores. It is sold by their importer here, "ProActive BioProducts," at www.proactivebio.com, or (reading the box. . . ) 877-282-5366.
C is right. So is OZ. Rhodiola is wonderful.
BT
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