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Larry from N.J. - 24 Nov 2007 15:43 GMT
Watch out for stolen Insulin

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Màck©® - 24 Nov 2007 17:22 GMT
>Watch out for stolen Insulin
>
>http://www.indystar.com:80/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071123/LOCAL/71123021

Police investigating the theft of two refrigerated semitrailers
containing medical and health and beauty supplies warned today that
part of the cargo contained insulin that could pose a significant
health risk if used.

 
The 2004 Utility and the 2006 Great Dane trailers were reported stolen
from Daum Trucking in the area of 300 South and Ind. 267 in Hendricks
County, according to an Indiana State Police news release. They were
taken sometime between 11:45 p.m. Nov. 21 and 10:45 a.m. Nov. 22, the
news release said.

In addition to the health and beauty aids, the trailers contained 21
skids of insulin that will spoil if not properly refrigerated, police
said, adding that injection of spoiled insulin could be fatal.

Police urged anyone who is offered insulin from other than normal
medical and retail suppliers to contact the Indiana State Police or
the nearest law enforcement authority to report the circumstances of
how the insulin was offered.

The total dollar value of the trailers plus the retail value of the
contents may exceed $1 million, police said.

The trailers were described as being stainless steel with no writing
on the sides and having red wheel hubs and axles. The license plate of
the 2004 Utility trailer is 614231, and its VIN number is
1UYVS25384M157905. The plate of the Great Dane trailer is 609868, and
its VIN number is 1GRAA062X6W705555.
Chris - 24 Nov 2007 17:28 GMT
> In addition to the health and beauty aids, the trailers contained 21
> skids of insulin that will spoil if not properly refrigerated, police
> said, adding that injection of spoiled insulin could be fatal.

Unlikely, don't you think?

Chris
Màck©® - 24 Nov 2007 18:10 GMT
>> In addition to the health and beauty aids, the trailers contained 21
>> skids of insulin that will spoil if not properly refrigerated, police
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Chris

you noticed that too I see.

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Jackie Patti - 24 Nov 2007 19:10 GMT
>> In addition to the health and beauty aids, the trailers contained 21
>> skids of insulin that will spoil if not properly refrigerated, police
>> said, adding that injection of spoiled insulin could be fatal.
>
> Unlikely, don't you think?

The "spoiled" language sounds... wrong.  As if sterile, closed bottles
of insulin were gonna grow bacteria and cause food poisoning or
something.  Worse comes to worse, it becomes ineffective, not "spoiled".

Why the hell would someone steal a trailer full of insulin anyways?
I've hauled trailers full of beer, televisions, DVD players, etc. and
that's when you worry about being hijacked.

Insulin?  Is there really a big black market in insulin?

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Alice Faber - 24 Nov 2007 19:18 GMT
> >> In addition to the health and beauty aids, the trailers contained 21
> >> skids of insulin that will spoil if not properly refrigerated, police
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> of insulin were gonna grow bacteria and cause food poisoning or
> something.  Worse comes to worse, it becomes ineffective, not "spoiled".

I'm thinking that the original warning was to the effect that a T1 who
uses spoiled, ineffective insulin is at high risk for DKA (assuming that
they don't test, etc.), and that it somehow, through transmission, got
over-simplified to the point of absolutely mis-stating just what the
risk is.

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Bob - 25 Nov 2007 01:46 GMT
Jackie,

<snip>
> Why the hell would someone steal a trailer full of insulin anyways?

I suspect the thieves were after the "health and beauty aids". Sounds
like a delivery bound for some sort of regional distribution center for
one of the big retail pharmacies.

> I've hauled trailers full of beer, televisions, DVD players, etc. and
> that's when you worry about being hijacked.

And since the feds won't let you be legally armed even if the state
allows concealed carry, you are pretty much defenseless.  I don't envy
that part of an OTR trucker's life.

Bob
Jackie Patti - 25 Nov 2007 14:03 GMT
> And since the feds won't let you be legally armed even if the state
> allows concealed carry, you are pretty much defenseless.  I don't envy
> that part of an OTR trucker's life.

The company I worked for forbade it even for owner-operators.  Given we
often cross borders, even if the US law allowed, it'd make Canadian
deliveries a real pita as you'd have to throw the thing out to cross the
border anyways.

Frankly, I had no problem with the rule.  I'm not anti-gun, we own two
rifles and find them useful tools.

But whether armed or not, if someone threatens me to steal my trailer,
they're gonna get the trailer.  Ain't no cargo worth a shootout - they
can have it.  I'm not a Clint Eastwood character.

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DarkSentinel - 25 Nov 2007 16:48 GMT
> Jackie,
>
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> allows concealed carry, you are pretty much defenseless.  I don't envy
> that part of an OTR trucker's life.

I did OTR for the armored company I worked at in my younger days. Mainly
transfers from the Bureau of Engraving and Printing in DC to the Richmond
Federal Reserve. As I carried a .357 Magnum, and we had a 12g in the truck,
we didn't have a problem with hijacking.

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Tim Shoppa - 25 Nov 2007 06:38 GMT
> > Màck(c)(R) wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> of insulin were gonna grow bacteria and cause food poisoning or
> something.  Worse comes to worse, it becomes ineffective, not "spoiled".

You know, some of us will die from ineffective insulin within a day or
two.

With the cold weather rolling through the midwest... exposed to the
environment for one night it'd freeze solid.

I know, that's the opposite of "refrigerated", but seems more likely
than anything else right now.

Tim.
Jackie Patti - 25 Nov 2007 14:08 GMT
>>> Màck(c)(R) wrote:
>>>> In addition to the health and beauty aids, the trailers contained 21
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> You know, some of us will die from ineffective insulin within a day or
> two.

If you didn't test the entire time to discover the insulin was
ineffective, yes.

However, "spoiled" doesn't sound the same as "ineffective."

My objection was not that ineffective insulin isn't dangerous, but that
they made it sound like leaving a stuffed turkey on the counter
overnight - that it'd be poison.  It's just weird wording with
inaccurate connotations.

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