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Pete Romfh - 14 Aug 2007 03:53 GMT
I saw an article on "No-Cook Summer meals" in the paper this weekend.
Since it's over 100F each day here in Houston the dishes sounded
inviting. We've got fresh tomatoes in the garden and I had a can of
chickpeas on hand so I made what they called "Chickpea Slather".
I'd call it thinned out Hummus but I can't quibble with the taste. It
was delicious.

Recipe is posted on A.F.D. or, with photo, at:
www.bigoven.com/recipe163530

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Pete Romfh, telecom geek and amateur gourmet.
Houston, TX, USA
Julie Bove - 14 Aug 2007 06:48 GMT
>I saw an article on "No-Cook Summer meals" in the paper this weekend.
> Since it's over 100F each day here in Houston the dishes sounded
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> Recipe is posted on A.F.D. or, with photo, at:
> www.bigoven.com/recipe163530

I like to take slices of tomato and other veggies and dip them in hummus.
johnniemccoy@ - 15 Aug 2007 04:25 GMT
>I saw an article on "No-Cook Summer meals" in the paper this weekend.
> Since it's over 100F each day here in Houston the dishes sounded
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>
> Pete Romfh,

I hate you. I'm sick and tired of all you people cooking all this delicious
stuff while I sit here with a damned dried up chicken wing and a piece of
celery :-)

John
Paul L - 15 Aug 2007 15:37 GMT
>>I saw an article on "No-Cook Summer meals" in the paper this weekend.
>> Since it's over 100F each day here in Houston the dishes sounded
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>
> John

That's what my kids get to eat when they're behaving WELL.

Paul
johnniemccoy@ - 16 Aug 2007 05:33 GMT
>>>I saw an article on "No-Cook Summer meals" in the paper this weekend.
>>> Since it's over 100F each day here in Houston the dishes sounded
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>
> Paul
My God, what do they get when they misbehave :-)

John
Paul L - 17 Aug 2007 22:29 GMT
>>>>I saw an article on "No-Cook Summer meals" in the paper this weekend.
>>>> Since it's over 100F each day here in Houston the dishes sounded
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>
> John

My kids are perfect, John.  Pay no attention to the public records.

cheers

Paul
johnniemccoy@ - 18 Aug 2007 04:51 GMT
>>>>>I saw an article on "No-Cook Summer meals" in the paper this weekend.
>>>>> Since it's over 100F each day here in Houston the dishes sounded
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>
> Paul
lol
W. Baker - 15 Aug 2007 17:44 GMT
: >I saw an article on "No-Cook Summer meals" in the paper this weekend.
: > Since it's over 100F each day here in Houston the dishes sounded
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
: stuff while I sit here with a damned dried up chicken wing and a piece of
: celery :-)

: John

You can always but some hoummous in a package and use it on some, easily
cut up raw vegetables or on one of gthe low carb pitas or bread or ryevita
crackers.  This is the kind of thing we are doing ths week, just back
fromt eh hospital, for uick lunches.  My son got us some hummous,
babaganoush, Turkish salad adn vegetarian chopped"liver" in little tubs so
we make our lunches from that-no cooking!  so far the only thing I cooked
ws som escrambled eggs for dinner last night.  I will try a turkeyburger
on the foreman grill tonight with microwaved broccoli

Wendy
Alan S - 15 Aug 2007 22:37 GMT
>vegetarian chopped"liver"

????


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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W. Baker - 15 Aug 2007 23:08 GMT
: >vegetarian chopped"liver"

: ????

:  : Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. : d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg :
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. : -- :
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Type 2 Managemen

t Yup!  I make a version with i15-16 oz can peas, 1 1-16
oz can stringbeans, 4-5 hard boiled eggs, 12 oz of finely chopped walnuts
and tons of onions fried until very golden brown, salt (or chicken
boullion powder) black pepper.  chop each ingredent separately and then
mix together.  It is surprisingly good dn takes like traditional jewish
chopped liver.  Great for vegetarians or for kosher peole who want it
witha dairy meal.

I know, it sounds like a contradiction on terms, but it works!  There is a
lot of this in current Jewish cooking so one can eat foods that look like
they could not be eaten by Jewish law.  I can make dairyless"creamed" chicken
by using a chicken stock based veloute sauce in place of the cream sauce.  
I make pumkin pie with soy milk so we can have it with our Thanksgivign
turkey, etc.  A little ingenuity goes a long way:-)

Wendy
Alan S - 16 Aug 2007 00:49 GMT
>t Yup!  I make a version with i15-16 oz can peas, 1 1-16
>oz can stringbeans, 4-5 hard boiled eggs, 12 oz of finely chopped walnuts
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>
>Wendy

Thanks for the explanation; I'm still not sure it's edible -
but then I've never eaten chopped liver either:-)


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/
latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforest
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
latest: Self-Testing and Type 2 Management
W. Baker - 16 Aug 2007 01:47 GMT
: >t Yup!  I make a version with i15-16 oz can peas, 1 1-16
: >oz can stringbeans, 4-5 hard boiled eggs, 12 oz of finely chopped walnuts
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: >
: >Wendy

: Thanks for the explanation; I'm still not sure it's edible -
: but then I've never eaten chopped liver either:-)

:  
: Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.

Next time you are in NYC we will have to remedy that, won't we Loretta?

Wendy
Pete Romfh - 16 Aug 2007 03:32 GMT
>: >t Yup!  I make a version with i15-16 oz can peas, 1 1-16
>: >oz can stringbeans, 4-5 hard boiled eggs, 12 oz of finely chopped walnuts
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>
>Wendy

NY Deli Chopped liver ?
With beet horseradish and, maybe, matzo ball soup.

I'm on the next available flight !!

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Pete Romfh, telecom geek and amateur gourmet.
Houston, TX, USA
Frank t2 - 16 Aug 2007 03:51 GMT
And you're going to sacrifice a matzo just for that ?

"Pete Romfh" <promfh@[NOSPAM]hal-pc.org.invalid> a écrit ...

> NY Deli Chopped liver ?
> With beet horseradish and, maybe, matzo ball soup.
>
> I'm on the next available flight !!
W. Baker - 16 Aug 2007 17:08 GMT
: >: >t Yup!  I make a version with i15-16 oz can peas, 1 1-16
: >: >oz can stringbeans, 4-5 hard boiled eggs, 12 oz of finely chopped walnuts
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: >
: >Wendy

: NY Deli Chopped liver ?
: With beet horseradish and, maybe, matzo ball soup.

: I'm on the next available flight !!

: ------
: Pete Romfh, telecom geek and amateur gourmet.
: Houston, TX, USA

If you think NY Deli chopped liver is great, u should tste my home made,
either all beef live, mixed bef and chicken or all chicken live, but with
REAL, home rendered chicken fat(but not too much).  This is my mother's
recipe.

Wendy
Cheri - 16 Aug 2007 17:50 GMT
W. Baker wrote in message ...

>If you think NY Deli chopped liver is great, u should tste my home made,
>either all beef live, mixed bef and chicken or all chicken live, but with
>REAL, home rendered chicken fat(but not too much).  This is my mother's
>recipe.
>
>Wendy

I love Ina Gartens' recipe, and make it for New Years Day sometimes.
:-)

Cheri
Pete Romfh - 17 Aug 2007 04:53 GMT
>: >: >t Yup!  I make a version with i15-16 oz can peas, 1 1-16
>: >: >oz can stringbeans, 4-5 hard boiled eggs, 12 oz of finely chopped walnuts
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>
>Wendy

Sounds yummy !!
Post the recipe and I'll give it a try.

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Pete Romfh, telecom geek and amateur gourmet.
Houston, TX, USA
W. Baker - 17 Aug 2007 16:42 GMT
: >If you think NY Deli chopped liver is great, u should tste my home made,
: >either all beef live, mixed bef and chicken or all chicken live, but with
: >REAL, home rendered chicken fat(but not too much).  This is my mother's
: >recipe.
: >
: >Wendy

: Sounds yummy !!
: Post the recipe and I'll give it a try.

: ------
: Pete Romfh, telecom geek and amateur gourmet.
: Houston, TX, USA

OK, I don't know how to change the thread name, but here goes.  

Wendy's Family Chopped liver recipe

A few caveats before we beginYou have to be careful oto not let everything
get to finely choped so it turns into a pate consistancy, so follow the
instructions to chop each ingredient separately.

The proporions are a bit inexact as this is a tase and feel "old country"
recip with a great tolerance for variation.  

Using different livers and combinations of livers will var both texture
and taste.  You have to find what you like.

IN kosher cooking liver is ALWAYS  broiled to remove much of the blood.  
Sauteing the liver would give a different taste and texture that woudl not
be "traditinal", evenif you like it that way.

Chopped Liver
4-5 hard boiled eggs, chopped in the food processor, (Yolks can be removed
 IF you want, just add extra  hard boiled eggs whites in that case.
1 lb onions, peeled and chopped in the food processor
2T-1/2 C Home rendered chicken fat (recipe below)
1 lb liver-chicken, beef, calf, or a combinaion. salted and broiled until
 fairly well done, but not burnt!-too rare and the texture gets mushy)
Salt adn fresly ground black pepper to taste.

Chop he eggs in the food processor and remove to a large enoug bowl to
hold and hand mix all ingredients.

Chop onions in food processor and put into a heated pan with teh chicken
fat(non-stick cna be usefull here) adn fry, sturring frequently to brevent
burning until well browned, but not burnt(darker than "golden.") Remove to
bowl with eggs.

While onions are cooking, broil liver(s) turning once and watching to
prevent burning.  remove to food processor and chop NOT FINELY, remove to
bowl with eggs and onions including all the fat drippings.

Add salt and pepper adn mix very well so eggs kind of disappear.  If you
like you can add more chicken fat at this point.  Taste and correct
seasonings.  shill, serve either with crackers or on bread or as a sald on
lettuce surrounded by tomatoes, peppers, radishes, cukes, or whatever ou
like for either a first course or a sald meal.  

Home Rendered Chicken Fat

Collect in the freezer fat from  chickens as you clean them and skin you
might trim.    When you have a goodly amount(more than a cup or so) place
fat in a large (1 qt or more) pyrex measuring cup, cover tightly and
microwave for 5-6 minuts.  Look and see if most of the fat has been
rendered from the globules and skin, if not, microwvae more.  Depending on
how much you start with, this can take up to a half an hour!  When the fat
is mostly rendered  and the globues and skin are still yellow, add 1
finely sliced onion, cover and microwave until he globules , skin and
onions are well browned, but not burnt.  (careful hee as it can start to
burn rapidly).  Pour off liquid    fat into a jar and add some salt.  This
is the chicken fat.  The remaining cracklings ae delcious just eaten out
of hand or put on a cracker or rye bread. (Never white bread:-)  

Traditionally this was made stoveto and the pan was impossible to clean,
so iI devised the microwave method.  

If you find this too big a bother, you can make a substitute using cooking
oil(not olive)  and flavoring the liver with chicken buillion powder or
smashed cubes in place of some of the salt calld for.  Not as good, but
easier on the cook and the heart.

Not a recipe I make everyday, but for holidays or company dinners as a
treat.  The chicken fat I make once or twice a year and keep in the
freezer.    

Wendy
Nicky - 17 Aug 2007 21:43 GMT
>Traditionally this was made stoveto and the pan was impossible to clean,
>so iI devised the microwave method.  

Yeah, good idea. I need duck fat fairly often, I'll try it your way
next time!

>Not a recipe I make everyday, but for holidays or company dinners as a
>treat.  

Sounds good, actually - and kid-friendly, they're not too keen on
obvious liver : )  Saved for when I'm feeling brave...

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6%  BMI 25
W. Baker - 18 Aug 2007 14:49 GMT
: >Traditionally this was made stoveto and the pan was impossible to clean,
: >so iI devised the microwave method.  

: Yeah, good idea. I need duck fat fairly often, I'll try it your way
: next time!

: >Not a recipe I make everyday, but for holidays or company dinners as a
: >treat.  

: Sounds good, actually - and kid-friendly, they're not too keen on
: obvious liver : )  Saved for when I'm feeling brave...

: Nicky.

If you have duck ffat, it might work too.  I have never tried it, but I
know gose fat was also trational in parts of Erope for many djewish
dishes.  

Wendy
Pete Romfh - 17 Aug 2007 23:07 GMT
>: >If you think NY Deli chopped liver is great, u should tste my home made,
>: >either all beef live, mixed bef and chicken or all chicken live, but with
[quoted text clipped - 83 lines]
>
>Wendy

I'll try it this weekend if the hurricane doesn't preempt my
activities.

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Pete Romfh, telecom geek and amateur gourmet.
Houston, TX, USA
Janet Wilder - 18 Aug 2007 02:36 GMT
> Chopped Liver

Wendy, I have  used a food processor and still think a meat grinder is
so much better. The texture is different. I have a Kitchen Aid mixer and
purchased the meat grinder attachment. It makes superb chopped liver.

> Home Rendered Chicken Fat
>
> Collect in the freezer fat from  chickens as you clean them and skin you
> might trim.    When you have a goodly amount(more than a cup or so) place
> fat in a large (1 qt or more) pyrex measuring cup, cover tightly and
> microwave for 5-6 minuts.  

I render my fat on the stove  top. I found that putting water and dish
washing soap into the pot as soon as  it's empty makes it easier to clean.

I save fat from  chickens and render it, too. I never all salt to the
rendered fat.

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W. Baker - 18 Aug 2007 14:54 GMT
: > Chopped Liver

: Wendy, I have  used a food processor and still think a meat grinder is
: so much better. The texture is different. I have a Kitchen Aid mixer and
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
: > fat in a large (1 qt or more) pyrex measuring cup, cover tightly and
: > microwave for 5-6 minuts.  

: I render my fat on the stove  top. I found that putting water and dish
: washing soap into the pot as soon as  it's empty makes it easier to clean.

: I save fat from  chickens and render it, too. I never all salt to the
: rendered fat.

Janet, I used to use a wooden bowl and hochmesser(choppeing knife liek a
mezzeluna)  and loved the traditional texture.  I developed my carefully
explained, separate chopping and in order, eggs, raw onions, liver in teh
food processor to duplicate the texture of the hand chopped.  I don't like
what a grinder does to the texture

I like my onions quite well browned adn sometime some get a bit burnt,
making the top of he stove pot a b--tch to clean.  Try the microwave
method and see how much easier it is to clean that  pyrex measuring bowl.

Wendy
Alan S - 16 Aug 2007 05:26 GMT
>: >t Yup!  I make a version with i15-16 oz can peas, 1 1-16
>: >oz can stringbeans, 4-5 hard boiled eggs, 12 oz of finely chopped walnuts
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
>Wendy

Wasn't actually the culinary delight I was
anticipating...but I'll play along:-)


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/
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Nicky - 16 Aug 2007 21:27 GMT
>: Thanks for the explanation; I'm still not sure it's edible -
>: but then I've never eaten chopped liver either:-)
>Next time you are in NYC we will have to remedy that, won't we Loretta?

Bring 'em a pie floater in revenge, Alan : )

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6%  BMI 25
Alan S - 16 Aug 2007 23:46 GMT
>>: Thanks for the explanation; I'm still not sure it's edible -
>>: but then I've never eaten chopped liver either:-)
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Nicky.

I can't imagine it would get through quarantine, even if I
froze it:-)

Haven't had one for many years, BTW, not since I was
wandering around South Australia in a caravan.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/
latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforest
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
latest: Self-Testing and Type 2 Management
Dennis R. - 16 Aug 2007 04:14 GMT
> >t Yup!  I make a version with i15-16 oz can peas, 1 1-16
> >oz can stringbeans, 4-5 hard boiled eggs, 12 oz of finely chopped walnuts
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
> latest: Self-Testing and Type 2 Management

I can't stand the taste of innards of any kind, except for a well made
pate, but watching a TV cooking show featuring a kosher version of this
dish intrigued me. Just Google "mocked chopped liver" and you will find
hundreds of jewish and plain jane vegetarian recipes.

The one I saw used mostly lentils and nuts, very carb friendly for me.

Dennis (Type 2)
 
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