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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / August 2007What is "high" for 17, dm, preg, and vominting?
What would be a bg high to be worried about (to er or calling dr) if pregnant, 17, gestational dm, and vomiting? Currently, her bg is 119. Billie "Striving for a world without Myasthenia Gravis" Myasthenia Gravis Foundation of America http://www.myasthenia.org Muscular Dystrophy Association http://www.mda.org/disease/mg.html http://www.mda.org/publications/fa-mg-treatment.html Myasthenia Gravis Association UK http://www.mga.superbuilder.net/mgaforum.html She will envisage once, finance sharply, then rock beyond the thief following the barrel. While muds notably sound rings, the views often split with regard to the mighty routines. I was delivering hundreds to dynamic Rifaat, who's thinking as for the sky's training. We obscure them, then we eg widen Allahdad and Tony's guilty stretch. What did Peter differ the species against the black english? The similaritys, butchers, and chs are all structural and relaxed. Are you chemical, I mean, administering minus worried motifs? 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KC > What would be a bg high to be worried about (to er or calling dr) if > pregnant, 17, gestational dm, and vomiting? Currently, her bg is 119. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Myasthenia Gravis Association UK > http://www.mga.superbuilder.net/mgaforum.html Once you read the opinions here I hope you still call your doctor and ask the same question. Tom > What would be a bg high to be worried about (to er or calling dr) if > pregnant, 17, gestational dm, and vomiting? Currently, her bg is 119. > > Billie Would be more concerned about the vomiting leading to dehydration with the underlying possibility of urosepsis from a UTI (urinary tract infection) rather than from the mild hyperglycemia. It is likely that the BG will come down with rehydration in a diabetic who has been dehydrated from vomiting. Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Cardiologist > What would be a bg high to be worried about (to er or calling dr) if > pregnant, 17, gestational dm, and vomiting? Currently, her bg is 119. > > Billie What does you doc say? IMHO - it depends somewhat on when it is 119. I'm not overly concerned when I see an occassional 120 - but I don't want to see it regularly. How cautious is her en do. Mine treated every reading that got close to 6.0 . I saw him weekly and had to report by phone any number over 6.0. If there was a pattern when I saw him the next week the insulin dose was changed. When I am vomiting I have no way to control my bg. It usually goes high in my case. Probably the biggest concern is the vomiting right now and the potential for dehydration. Ring the doc, the ER won't look at you unless she is dehydrating with those numbers. Is it a bug or late morning sickness? > What would be a bg high to be worried about (to er or calling dr) if > pregnant, 17, gestational dm, and vomiting? Currently, her bg is 119. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Myasthenia Gravis Association UK > http://www.mga.superbuilder.net/mgaforum.html >What would be a bg high to be worried about (to er or calling dr) if >pregnant, 17, gestational dm, and vomiting? Currently, her bg is 119. > >Billie Ring the doc. Probably unnecessary - but let the doc say that:-) Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/ latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforest http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/ latest: Self-Testing and Type 2 Management >> What would be a bg high to be worried about (to er or calling dr) if >> pregnant, 17, gestational dm, and vomiting? Currently, her bg is 119. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Ring the doc. Probably unnecessary - but let the doc say > that:-) I agree with ringing the doc. Not only because of the blood sugar thing. But also, you have 17-year old with diabetes who is puking. That is why you should ring the doc. Jeff > Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. > d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/ > latest: Self-Testing and Type 2 Management Thank you all. I was just preparing myself for if she *did* go high, what would be considered high. She's been running close to 200 off and on the past couple of weeks while waiting for diagnosis (2 GTTs, grossly high - dr's words to her), and I know when sick, the tendencies for high bgs. Knew her current reading was okay. Think Jan hit it, though. Late pregnancy (she's 7 mos) morning sickness. She's never had any. She's fine now, and bg 88. Having her stabilize against a hypo now before going to bed. Wish I didn't have to be gone next week as she is learning. :( Oh, well, we have text messaging. :) Billie "Striving for a world without Myasthenia Gravis" Myasthenia Gravis Foundation of America http://www.myasthenia.org Muscular Dystrophy Association http://www.mda.org/disease/mg.html http://www.mda.org/publications/fa-mg-treatment.html Myasthenia Gravis Association UK http://www.mga.superbuilder.net/mgaforum.html : What would be a bg high to be worried about (to er or calling dr) if : pregnant, 17, gestational dm, and vomiting? Currently, her bg is 119. > What would be a bg high to be worried about (to er or calling dr) if > pregnant, 17, gestational dm, and vomiting? Currently, her bg is 119. I wasn't to go over 110 when I was pregnant. But she would have to call her Dr. to find out what number he/she considers high. I wouldn't personally call for 119. Julie, read my post just above yours. If not there, I will resend to you. I did not do a good job of stating myself. ;) I have her doctor's parameters for normal circumstances, but if she had a bug, and soared, I was just wondering what different ones thought was when she should call. Her doctor does not have her checking PP, so I am watching her closely after two weeks of multiple 180 to 200 bgs. He only has her checking fbg, before two meals, and bedtime. :( I'll end up having to buy extra strips before the month is gone, because I am having her check foods, and PP. It sounds like she was just having morning sickness late in her pg (7 mos). She's never had any, only some nausea, so her being sick was a bit from her ordinary, but okay. Her last bg was 88, and I fell asleep before texting her before bedtime. Thanks Billie "Striving for a world without Myasthenia Gravis" Myasthenia Gravis Foundation of America http://www.myasthenia.org Muscular Dystrophy Association http://www.mda.org/disease/mg.html http://www.mda.org/publications/fa-mg-treatment.html Myasthenia Gravis Association UK http://www.mga.superbuilder.net/mgaforum.html : > What would be a bg high to be worried about (to er or calling dr) if : > pregnant, 17, gestational dm, and vomiting? Currently, her bg is 119. : : I wasn't to go over 110 when I was pregnant. But she would have to call her : Dr. to find out what number he/she considers high. I wouldn't personally : call for 119. > Julie, read my post just above yours. If not there, I will resend to you. > I did not do a good job of stating myself. ;) I have her doctor's [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > ordinary, but okay. Her last bg was 88, and I fell asleep before texting > her before bedtime. Glad to read that the vomiting has waned and that her BG is normalizing. Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Cardiologist > Julie, read my post just above yours. If not there, I will resend to you. > I did not do a good job of stating myself. ;) I have her doctor's [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > ordinary, but okay. Her last bg was 88, and I fell asleep before texting > her before bedtime. I'm confused. She had weeks of multiple 180 to 200 fastings? Then something is waaay wrong. >> Julie, read my post just above yours. If not there, I will resend to >> you. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > I'm confused. She had weeks of multiple 180 to 200 fastings? Then > something is waaay wrong. It sounds wrong to me to, but I have no experience with the part about getting diagnosed with gestational diabetes since I already had diabetes. KC >What would be a bg high to be worried about (to er or calling dr) if >pregnant, 17, gestational dm, and vomiting? Currently, her bg is 119. > >Billie is the mother to be seeing a high risk pregnancy team? if not she needs to.  SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . I really appreciate your concerns over Ashley. I am in total agreement with the treatment by her ob doctor. Let me try to give you the details. From the very first when I found out that she was pregnant, I told her that it was super important that she tell him that she was born hypoglycemic, and that she has diabetes on both sides of her family. Billie "Striving for a world without Myasthenia Gravis" Myasthenia Gravis Foundation of America http://www.myasthenia.org Muscular Dystrophy Association http://www.mda.org/disease/mg.html http://www.mda.org/publications/fa-mg-treatment.html Myasthenia Gravis Association UK http://www.mga.superbuilder.net/mgaforum.html Sorry, it slipped away from me, let's try again.... ;) From the very first when I found out that she was pregnant, I told her that it was super important that she tell him that she was born hypoglycemic, and that she has diabetes on both sides of her family. The only time/place that it came up was on a written sheet that she had to fill out, and nothing came of that. My *whatever* got the best of me, I and started testing her with one of my meters. That was when I started seeing the 180 something tests. I sent my Relion home with her. She said the strips I sent were out of date, so it was while I was down here last month (time seems wrong, but I believe that's right), and I sent her and Jim to Wal-Mart to buy more. They couldn't remember which model meter, so told them to just buy her her own meter, which they did. She had no numbers less than 115, and up to 189 from then to when she went for her OGTT test at the doctor's office. She failed it, and had to go to the lab then for a four hour one. The doctor's office called with the results, "grossly high" and she had to go there Friday afternoon. She saw the ob nurse who gave her a script for a meter, a sample 1800 diet printed from a web site (no personalized diet or instructions of any kind), and a printed page of parameters of checking her fbg of 95 or below, check before lunch, before supper, and before bedtime with a maximum high of 140, and call if she had any questions. I had wanted to go to the "doctor's" appointment with her because I had lots of questions, but see that it would have done no good since she didn't see him anyway. :( What I want is for her to see my endo right away because she only has a couple of months left with this doctor. Also, her insurance will be gone in two months. If she is established with my doctor, we could probably handle the costs from then, plus I like him, and have so much faith in him. I will be home in a couple/few days and will get the ball rolling; too much is at stack here, and no one seems to recognize that, or am I paranoid? What do you all think? Am I being overly *whatever* about her? She cannot get online when she is at her house, and I **may** even have to pay for her her own internet account. If that is the only way she can get in touch with all the internet information, I'll just have to do it. She and this baby are just too important to me, and my life. She is automatically online at or very near our house with our network. Any of you guys know how she could pick up a stronger signal strength from us just one block down the street? She got a weak signal. I've got to get out of here so I can get started teaching her how to get in control of her diabetes, and about her starting reading here to get good information! THIS is where I learned!!!!! Hugs Billie "Striving for a world without Myasthenia Gravis" Myasthenia Gravis Foundation of America http://www.myasthenia.org Muscular Dystrophy Association http://www.mda.org/disease/mg.html http://www.mda.org/publications/fa-mg-treatment.html Myasthenia Gravis Association UK http://www.mga.superbuilder.net/mgaforum.html Billie "Striving for a world without Myasthenia Gravis" Myasthenia Gravis Foundation of America http://www.myasthenia.org Muscular Dystrophy Association http://www.mda.org/disease/mg.html http://www.mda.org/publications/fa-mg-treatment.html Myasthenia Gravis Association UK http://www.mga.superbuilder.net/mgaforum.html :I really appreciate your concerns over Ashley. I am in total agreement with : the treatment by her ob doctor. Let me try to give you the details. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] : Myasthenia Gravis Association UK : http://www.mga.superbuilder.net/mgaforum.html > I will >be home in a couple/few days and will get the ball rolling; too much is at >stack here, and no one seems to recognize that, or am I paranoid? What do >you all think? Am I being overly *whatever* about her? No way are you being overboard, Billie - two lives' worth of health at stake here. Ashley needs to put as little strain on her beta cells as possible, to have a chance of not being T2 after the pregnancy; the baby deserves as good a shot at life as she can give it. Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 Jim took her to her appointment, uh.... day before yesterday I believe he said, and the doctor said her numbers were not quite high enough to put her on insulin yet! Arrrrrgh! If no pp how is he going to even know????? Jim said she was hungry, and he asked her what she wanted, and she said something diabetic smart, or something to that effect, so SHE wants to do what is best. I am on my way home today, so maybe we can get some training going. I'll get her on to Jennifer's site, and some more good stuff. Reading and posting here, too, if I can get her down at the house to be online. May have to do her an aol account like I did for here. I really need all you guys' support on this. With the way I fatigue, and give out, you all can probably add much to what I think of for her. She is sooooo willing!! Maybe "WE" will be online tonight. Hugs Billie "Striving for a world without Myasthenia Gravis" Myasthenia Gravis Foundation of America http://www.myasthenia.org Muscular Dystrophy Association http://www.mda.org/disease/mg.html http://www.mda.org/publications/fa-mg-treatment.html Myasthenia Gravis Association UK http://www.mga.superbuilder.net/mgaforum.html : > I will : >be home in a couple/few days and will get the ball rolling; too much is at [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] : D&E, 100ug thyroxine : Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 > Jim took her to her appointment, uh.... day before yesterday I believe he > said, and the doctor said her numbers were not quite high enough to put > her > on insulin yet! Arrrrrgh! If no pp how is he going to even know????? It is really a shame her doctor is acting like that. They sure took it alot more seriously where I live in California. I had 3 different doctors in the 3 different pregancies, and they all took it much more seriously than that. It would be good if you could get her to an endocrinologist. I bet and endo would take it more serioously. KC KC What is interesting is that this doctor came here from CA and participated in the program that you were under. Guess he quit following it when he didn't have to do it anymore when he came here. I'm thoroughly disgusted. I have the weekend to mull it over, but I am very seriously considering trying to get her into seeing my endo *now* while it is supposedly gestational (17, born hypo, dm both sides of family), and while she has insurance for a thorough workup because she will not have any after October 11. Once established, we can handle the financial. With her background I want EVERYTHING run on her!! Thanks KC. You hang around. I'm really going to need you guys. I feel like I am all alone with her in this. Thank goodness she is a willing participant. Billie : > Jim took her to her appointment, uh.... day before yesterday I believe he : > said, and the doctor said her numbers were not quite high enough to put [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] : : KC > What is interesting is that this doctor came here from CA and participated > in the program that you were under. Guess he quit following it when he [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Billie Billie, when is the baby due? Will she have insurance for the birth? If not, you should look into MediCaid, like someone else in this thread suggested. They are very easy about giving it to pregnant women compared to other people. They only look at income, not assets if the woman is pregnant. KC >Jim took her to her appointment, uh.... day before yesterday I believe he >said, and the doctor said her numbers were not quite high enough to put her >on insulin yet! Arrrrrgh! If no pp how is he going to even know????? Yeah : ( You got any choice in doc? - hey, this isn't the guy who's so good with you, is he? If so, you'll have to train him! Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 No choice in doctors, Nicky. Only thing I can think of doing now is getting her in to see my endo in Memphis. She is seeing our town ob doc. Her insurance runs out October 11th, and I'd like to get her thoroughly checked under insurance. It would make it easier to handle the financial afterwards. Probably a lot could be done verbally. She often goes with me to my appointments anyway; they already know her there. I dunno..... just hava see.....;) Cannot do anything till Monday anyway. Oh, my, if this had been my doctor, and he had known she'd been born hypoglycemic, he'd have checked her more thoroughly from the start. If not, for sure after she showed those random 200s. I was watching and listening to myself tonight and I just feel like a worrying mom, but it's just that I know the possible outcomes for both, and............ I just want to wrap my arms around her and take it all away. What is interesting is *I* am the only *known* diabetic to pass the gene down. :( I've already passed a bad urinary tract abnormality down to her which required a painful surgery; passed it to all three of mine, and to her but not to the other granddaughter. That said, that is just *my* feelings popping up, she is handling everything very well, never complains, and is getting more excited each day now. Tonight we ate from our fav bar-b-que place here, and she got a salad with just the ribs on the side. Her bg was 74, and I have to admit we got involved in something, and we both forgot to test afterwards, until just a bit ago, and it was time for her to leave. Tomorrow we'll sit down with Jennifer's instructions and other stuff, and then she's going to have to take it on her own. I can barely take care of mine. lol What we need to try to do is work together; it is a matter of getting into a habit. It's not hard once you do. Ramble, ramble.... Thanks for being here! Billie "Striving for a world without Myasthenia Gravis" Myasthenia Gravis Foundation of America http://www.myasthenia.org Muscular Dystrophy Association http://www.mda.org/disease/mg.html http://www.mda.org/publications/fa-mg-treatment.html Myasthenia Gravis Association UK http://www.mga.superbuilder.net/mgaforum.html : >Jim took her to her appointment, uh.... day before yesterday I believe he : >said, and the doctor said her numbers were not quite high enough to put her [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] : D&E, 100ug thyroxine : Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 If you daughter won't have insurance, you should talk to the hospital where deliver the baby. They should have social workers who can hook her up with insurance, probably medicaid. You can think of this as an investment in a new life. I do. Jeff > No choice in doctors, Nicky. Only thing I can think of doing now is getting > her in to see my endo in Memphis. She is seeing our town ob doc. Her [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > : D&E, 100ug thyroxine > : Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 Jeff, she will have it for the baby's birth, just not after October.That is why I wanted to get her set up with my endo between now and then. Right now, I honestly do not know what the financial standing will be; I just want to get Ashley tested fully tested while there is insurance since it *seems* to me she needs a deep evaluation as to exactly what kind of diabetes she actually has since she is young enough for type 1, or could just be gestational, or blah, blah, blah. I just want a GOOD doctor looking her over GOOD. Make sense? There is none here!!!!!! Billie "Striving for a world without Myasthenia Gravis" Myasthenia Gravis Foundation of America http://www.myasthenia.org Muscular Dystrophy Association http://www.mda.org/disease/mg.html http://www.mda.org/publications/fa-mg-treatment.html Myasthenia Gravis Association UK http://www.mga.superbuilder.net/mgaforum.html : If you daughter won't have insurance, you should talk to the hospital : where deliver the baby. They should have social workers who can hook her [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] : > : > Billie >No choice in doctors, Nicky. Only thing I can think of doing now is getting >her in to see my endo in Memphis. She is seeing our town ob doc. Her [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >to my appointments anyway; they already know her there. I dunno..... just >hava see.....;) Cannot do anything till Monday anyway. don't be so sure. you should ask around about what assist is available to a single pregnant diabetic teen in the HIGH risk pregnancy category. She may qualify for assistance that could provide her with access to a high risk team. If you don't ask around and get pushy you will never know. SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . > Jim took her to her appointment, uh.... day before yesterday I believe he > said, and the doctor said her numbers were not quite high enough to put her > on insulin yet! Arrrrrgh! If no pp how is he going to even know????? Hmm.. It was my understanding that women with gestational diabetes (especially those who failed the OGTT the way she did) were almost always put on insulin because high BG's are not good for the baby. And, they can also lead to an overly large baby.... So, she may have to have a c-section.... make sure they monitor the baby's size too! Emily >> Jim took her to her appointment, uh.... day before yesterday I believe >> he said, and the doctor said her numbers were not quite high enough to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Emily They also lead to other problems in the infant, including low blood sugars in the first few days of life, because the pancreas is already geared up to dump a lot of insulin. They also tend to have other problems when they get older. Jeff > They also lead to other problems in the infant, including low blood sugars > in the first few days of life, because the pancreas is already geared up > to dump a lot of insulin. > > They also tend to have other problems when they get older. Such as? Jeff, she was born hypoglycemic, requiring three feedings in the nursery (I gave them to her ;) and a big baby (more long than excessive weight), always off the growth chart. She was 6' by the time she was 12 y/o and 6' 2" tall shortly thereafter. At one point they suspected Marfan syndrome. I would like to hear some discussion on the effects of a baby born hypoglycemic. I have heard reference to it at times, but never anything specific. Is this, a woman having gestational diabetes, one of them? Billie "Striving for a world without Myasthenia Gravis" Myasthenia Gravis Foundation of America http://www.myasthenia.org Muscular Dystrophy Association http://www.mda.org/disease/mg.html http://www.mda.org/publications/fa-mg-treatment.html Myasthenia Gravis Association UK http://www.mga.superbuilder.net/mgaforum.html : >> Jim took her to her appointment, uh.... day before yesterday I believe : >> he said, and the doctor said her numbers were not quite high enough to [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] : : Jeff >> Jim took her to her appointment, uh.... day before yesterday I believe he >> said, and the doctor said her numbers were not quite high enough to put [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > also lead to an overly large baby.... So, she may have to have a > c-section.... make sure they monitor the baby's size too! I had GD. No insulin and was also induced. Baby was not large at all. She weighed 1 oz. smaller then normal at birth. C section wasn't even discussed until it got to where I'd been in labor for 12 hours and she wouldn't come out. Luckily she did not long after. <snipped but read> I think it's great that Ashley has you in her life, Billie. I think you are being super good to her and the baby to be so concerned about this, and to push to get her the help she needs. I know when I was on no meds yet (actually this was before anyone made me official because I hadn't had the OGTT yet, but I was checking and getting many readings in the 200+range) I was told to call the CDE if my readings were above 200. Well, I called, but because I was on no meds, they couldn't help me. (no way to adjust doses to lower BG). They did however ask if I was pregnant, cause I guess then I might have been seen sooner, and put on meds or something because high numbers are bad in pregnancy. So, yes, it's very good to be concerned. And, I don't think you are too over the top in advocating for her and the baby. Emily Yes, Emily, I don't know how he is going to even know if she has high numbers with her not even doing PP checks. I've "told" her to, but with not being there to boost her behind, I doubt she's been doing it. I made her a chart for that extensive testing, but if you were 17, and were being pushed and pulled here and there (bf's father was here all week and they were visiting him), you know hard it would be to be so faithful. Things will be back to more normal after today, and maybe we can do more with her diet; maybe even make her eat with us. I may be asking for ideas. hahaha Will have to make Jim start posting to get all of your ideas for the food since he is the cook. Billie "Striving for a world without Myasthenia Gravis" Myasthenia Gravis Foundation of America http://www.myasthenia.org Muscular Dystrophy Association http://www.mda.org/disease/mg.html http://www.mda.org/publications/fa-mg-treatment.html Myasthenia Gravis Association UK http://www.mga.superbuilder.net/mgaforum.html : <snipped but read> : [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] : : Emily |
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