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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / August 2007Buh Bye TCBY
In the name of science (really, that's my story and I'm stickin' with it) I had a 12 oz. frozen yogurt yesterday and another one tonight. Now this isn't the best scientifically, because I did not check my BG before eating the treats. The VA gives me 50 strips per 90 days, so I'm not even supposed to be testing once a day (sheesh). Yesterday I had my usual tuna pockets for lunch, and 12 oz. of TCBY chocolate yogurt. One hour PP was 163 (the yogurt was "dinner"). Today, I was extremely hungry early, so my tuna pocket lunch was at 9:00 and I think I had two very small apples after that, one around lunch time and one in mid afternoon, but nothing else. Tonight's "dinner" was 12 oz. of the sugar-free vanilla TCBY yogurt. The one-hour PP was 179! This with not having eaten as much as yesterday, nor as recently. I realize 12 oz. is a pretty big serving, but I figured since I wasn't "hungry" anyway, it could substitute for a complete meal. Yogurt is healthy, right? Okay, so I haven't looked up the carb counts (recently) and/or conveniently forgot what they were. If I have any more, I'll have to stick to the kiddie cup size, I guess. Still no word from the FDA about the D'Lites Emporiums claims of 2 carbs per four ounces. "Frisbee®" <billLASTNAME@yahoo.com> wrote in part: >In the name of science (really, that's my story and I'm stickin' with it) I >had a 12 oz. frozen yogurt yesterday and another one tonight. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >Still no word from the FDA about the D'Lites Emporiums claims of 2 carbs per >four ounces. I'm avoiding work right now, so I looked up your "dinner" on the web and did some calculations. I may have your "12 oz. sugar-free vanilla TCBY yogurt" misidentified, but it seems to come only in a fat-free version, which is consistent with what I've seen elsewhere. Not good! If we are talking about the no sugar added non-fat frozen yogurt, it looks like there are 71 grams of carb in a 12 oz portion! That's the equivalent of a glucose challenge test, except that there is a little protein present. Your other meals sound like mostly carb, too. ("Pockets" and apples.) Real yogurt is healthy in my opinion, but TCBY doesn't sell yogurt. -- Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA > "Frisbee®" <billLASTNAME@yahoo.com> wrote in part: > [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > portion! That's the equivalent of a glucose challenge test, except that > there is a little protein present. Yes, I do believe I did mis-identify it. TCBY claims all their yogurts are fat-free, and I believe they are, or near fat-free, but they always have one flavor that is no sugar added. I also seem to remember when I was looking that their nutritional charts that the "no sugar added" had nearly as many carbs per ounce as the other kinds, which is why I hadn't even bothered eating that particular one except for the "test" tonight. Dang... if I'd known it was 71 carbs, I wouldn't have eaten it. You can be sure I won't be again. > Your other meals sound like mostly carb, too. ("Pockets" and apples.) Well, I know that apples are a lot of carbs, and I usually only have one apple but today I didn't have my 3-carb yogurt cups, so I brought two apples to work. Two very small fuji apples. Dang, they were good. I thought red and golden delicious were the best, but I'd never tried a fuji before that I know of. The pockets are the low-carb ones. I don't recall the exact carbs, but they're actually pretty decent. > Real yogurt is healthy in my opinion, but TCBY doesn't sell yogurt. True... the comment was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. Thanks for your input. I really HATE counting carbs. And I hate being hungry. I guess Chung would say God hates me. <snip> > And I hate being hungry. This would be because of the world's great lie about hunger being bad residing deeply rooted in your heart. > I guess Chung would say God hates me. If GOD hated you, you would be stricken with anorexia (ie no longer hungry). "Blessed are you who hunger **now**, for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21) Amen. **emphasis** added per the guidance of the Holy Spirit :-) It is only when we are hungry (stomachs singing and laughing) that our bodies get rid of the bad "inside" fat (visceral adipose tissue or VAT) that is hurting us, causing our insulin resistance (IR/MetS): http://abchung.livejournal.com/5428.html?thread=36660#t36660 Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Cardiologist > I guess Chung would say God hates me. "If GOD hated you, you would be stricken with anorexia (ie no longer hungry)." Ah, so God signals hatred by one's health status does He? What signal goes with your affliction then? If we confess our sin He is quick to forgive it. God bless. "Frisbee®" <billLASTNAME@yahoo.com> wrote in part: >> Real yogurt is healthy in my opinion, but TCBY doesn't sell yogurt. > >True... the comment was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. I know. >Thanks for your input. > >I really HATE counting carbs. > >And I hate being hungry. In my experience, counting (and reducing) carbs means less or no hunger. -- Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA > "Frisbee®" <billLASTNAME@yahoo.com> wrote in part: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > In my experience, counting (and reducing) carbs means less or no hunger. That would be the case for either too little carbs or too much. When the amount of carbs is optimal, you will become hungrier (healthier) than ever. Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Cardiologist If you reply to this troll, please be kind enough to snip alt.support.low.carb from the To heading. Thanks! Hi em, good to see you posting.... Hope all is well with you these days! Will, T2 >I really HATE counting carbs. So do I. So I don't. I read meters and adjust the next meal accordingly. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/ latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforest http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/ latest: Self-Testing and Type 2 Management > "Frisbee®" <billLASTNAME@yahoo.com> wrote in part: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I may have your "12 oz. sugar-free vanilla TCBY yogurt" misidentified, but TCBY isnt sugar free, its no sugar added. Jimmie From the results of your blood testing, you now know that anything more than a four ounce portion would be too many carbs for you. Loretta > From the results of your blood testing, you now know that anything more > than a four ounce portion would be too many carbs for you. Glucose tolerance tends to increase as the bad "inside" fat (visceral adipose tissue or VAT) is lost. Simply an incentive to eat less, down to the optimal amount to become healthier (hungrier) as VAT is lost, insulin resistance (IR/MetS) is cured, and possibly type-2 diabetes is cured as well: http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Healing The completely free Approach comes with free cardiologist support via usenet plus an unprecedented million-dollar guarantee: http://TruthRUS.org/Guarantee Be hungry (stomach singing and laughing)... be healthy (no VAT --> no more IR/MetS --> possibly no more type-2 diabetes)... be blessed (surrounded by good things which all to serve to make you even hungrier :-)... http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Cardiologist > In the name of science (really, that's my story and I'm stickin' with it) > I had a 12 oz. frozen yogurt yesterday and another one tonight. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Still no word from the FDA about the D'Lites Emporiums claims of 2 carbs > per four ounces. I had some sort of frozen treat at the Staten Island mall some time ago. They had sugar free flavors and the portion size was very small. Like the little plastic cups you get at some places for hot sauce or ketchup. I was overheated and thirsty and decided to try it. Nope. Spike city. I knew better. The people who were serving it had no clue what was in it. That should have been a big tip off. Now due to my food allergies, I can no longer eat something without knowing what it is. >In the name of science (really, that's my story and I'm stickin' with it) I >had a 12 oz. frozen yogurt yesterday and another one tonight. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >Still no word from the FDA about the D'Lites Emporiums claims of 2 carbs per >four ounces. Two links to articles I wrote that might help. For using those 50 strips more effectively: http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/2007/04/teting-on-budget.html And on yoghurt: http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/2006/11/yoghurt.html Real, natural, full-fat live yoghurt has very little effect on my BG's. It's only when I buy commercial low-anything flavoured yoghurt that I get a problem spike. Note that the carb content is misleading as it is calcualted before the acidophilus (sp?) bacillae do their job turning the milk into a different product. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/ latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforest http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/ latest: Self-Testing and Type 2 Management |
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