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helen@raindropkites.co.uk - 06 Aug 2007 09:30 GMT ...any thoughts on this as it relates to diabetes? I am a creative artist and have found the last few months somewhat less than productive. And before you say it, I am not depressed about my diagnosis (or in denial) and am making good progress with the disease.. On another list all I got was "ask your doctor" but in my experience doctors regard creativity as a luxury or a frivolity, or they assume you have depression...
I would like to know if this is a side-effect of the condition or just one of those things at random
Helen Howes Type 2 and Fighting Back Well
Will, T2 - 06 Aug 2007 12:17 GMT >...any thoughts on this as it relates to diabetes? I am a creative >artist and have found the last few months somewhat less than [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I would like to know if this is a side-effect of the condition or >just one of those things at random Hi Helen,
I don't think diabetes should affect your creativity, per se, although maybe you are thinking about the diabetes so much that it is crowding out other thoughts and moments of inspiration....
I would say that people with diabetes can be just as creative as anyone else...
Hope you stick around. Glad you are having good success in working on the diabetes.
Will, T2
Nicky - 06 Aug 2007 21:06 GMT >I don't think diabetes should affect your creativity, per se, although >maybe you are thinking about the diabetes so much that it is crowding >out other thoughts and moments of inspiration.... Yes, I agree with Will. I write as a hobby, and it went away for a year or more after dx - now seems to be back in full flow, I have a number of short stories in competitions atm, and a couple of kids' books looking for a publisher.
Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
Will, T2 - 06 Aug 2007 21:26 GMT > I write as a hobby, and it went away for a > year or more after dx - now seems to be back in full flow, I have a > number of short stories in competitions atm, and a couple of kids' > books looking for a publisher. That's really wonderful, Nicky. :-) Good luck in getting published!
You have always impressed me as a very thoughtful and creative person.
Will, T2
Nicky - 06 Aug 2007 23:09 GMT >> I write as a hobby, and it went away for a >> year or more after dx - now seems to be back in full flow, I have a >> number of short stories in competitions atm, and a couple of kids' >> books looking for a publisher. > >That's really wonderful, Nicky. :-) Good luck in getting published! Thanks, Will : ) I actually have a dilemma atm, I have a piece of micro-fiction in a competition and someone who wants to buy it to turn it into a cartoon script. The comp won't release it until September, the artist wants it now - nice to be wanted :D
Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
Will, T2 - 06 Aug 2007 23:22 GMT > - nice to be wanted :D You bet it is! :-)
Will, T2
Cheri - 06 Aug 2007 23:23 GMT >On 6-Aug-2007, Nicky <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> wrote:
> I write as a hobby, and it went away for a > year or more after dx - now seems to be back in full flow, I have a > number of short stories in competitions atm, and a couple of kids' > books looking for a publisher. Wow Nicky, maybe you'll be the next JK Rowlings, and I can say I knew you when. :-) Good luck with getting a publisher.
Cheri
Nicky - 07 Aug 2007 22:28 GMT >Wow Nicky, maybe you'll be the next JK Rowlings, and I can say I knew >you when. :-) Good luck with getting a publisher. Absolutely no chance on the JKR front, unfortunately :D
Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
Alan S - 07 Aug 2007 00:01 GMT >>I don't think diabetes should affect your creativity, per se, although >>maybe you are thinking about the diabetes so much that it is crowding [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >D&E, 100ug thyroxine >Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 Coincidence is an odd thing. I just watched "Funny Farm" again a couple of nights ago...if you haven't seen it, you should.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/ latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforest http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/ latest: Self-Testing and Type 2 Management
Pete Romfh - 06 Aug 2007 12:30 GMT >...any thoughts on this as it relates to diabetes? I am a creative >artist and have found the last few months somewhat less than [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Helen Howes >Type 2 and Fighting Back Well I'm not really an artist but enjoy being creative in the kitchen.
I took my T2 diagnosis as a challenge to learn a new style of cuisine. That has developed into gathering ideas, experimenting with new techniques, and a few successful recipe ideas that I share.
I guess the turning point was a decision to use the challenge as a means of driving my creativity in a new direction.
While I was also suffering from depression, I have finally started to see some light at the end of that tunnel. Hopefully it isn't an oncoming train.
Not taking life too seriously hasn't hurt either.
------ Pete Romfh, telecom geek and amateur gourmet. Houston, TX, USA
Nicholson - 06 Aug 2007 14:21 GMT <helen@raindropkites.co.uk> wrote in message
> ...any thoughts on this as it relates to diabetes? I am a creative > artist and have found the last few months somewhat less than [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I would like to know if this is a side-effect of the condition or > just one of those things at random Helen, I too am an artist, not professional but I do show in galleries. T2 was having an effect on my work. Not the creativity part, but the part where I just was not myself and had not been for a long time. My doctor thought it was depression but I was sure it was not. (I fought depression 30 years ago, and you don't forget). Since I am now in control of my blood sugars, and my health with diet, exercise and meds, my painting has finally returned to an enjoyable level I once experienced. I did develop some bad work habits as I did not feel good for a long period of time, but slowly those are resolving too. Give it time and don't over think it.
Cheryl PS,, here is one site I find some interesting writing, The Painter's Keys Content Archives http://clicks.robertgenn.com/
Will, T2 - 06 Aug 2007 14:38 GMT > Since I am now in > control of my blood sugars, and my health with diet, exercise and meds, > my painting has finally returned to an enjoyable level I once > experienced. I did develop some bad work habits as I did not feel good > for a long period of time, but slowly those are resolving too. Give it > time and don't over think it. Yes, I would agree, Nicky,.... feeling bad all the time is a real drag, for artists and non-artists, alike. I know that right after diagnosis, I did not feel much like doing anything for a long time.
Will, T2
Nicky - 06 Aug 2007 21:15 GMT >> Since I am now in >> control of my blood sugars, and my health with diet, exercise and meds, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >artists and non-artists, alike. I know that right after diagnosis, I did not >feel much like doing anything for a long time. You mean Cheryl, Will - my artistic ability is nill : )
Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
Will, T2 - 06 Aug 2007 21:23 GMT > You mean Cheryl, Will - my artistic ability is nill : ) Sorry, Cheryl and Nicky... I guess I looked at my screen wrong.
Will, T2
Loretta Eisenberg - 06 Aug 2007 16:13 GMT Helen, I don know if it is a side effect of the disease itself as in having spikes unbeknownst to you if you are not testing before and two hours after meals. When we get tired we become unproductive. Some days I have a lot of energy and others I am exhausted. I dont know if Iit is from spikes which I very rarely have, or the medication that I take to control the diabetes. This is my epxerience, It may not be yours but checking with your doctor is not bad advice. We can only relate ou r own stories , yours may be completely different and that is why they say check with your doctor.
Loretta
KC - 06 Aug 2007 17:17 GMT Besides your lack of creativity, do you feel well? Not feeling well could make you have a lack of creativity. For me when I was not keeping tight control of my diabetes, and my thyroid was out of whack, I would only do the minimum in life. Since I have everything more under control I do feel like I have the energy to do some more creative things.
KC
> ...any thoughts on this as it relates to diabetes? I am a creative > artist and have found the last few months somewhat less than [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Helen Howes > Type 2 and Fighting Back Well Michelle C. - 06 Aug 2007 20:24 GMT On Aug 6, 1:30 am, he...@raindropkites.co.uk wrote:
> ...any thoughts on this as it relates to diabetes? I am a creative > artist and have found the last few months somewhat less than [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Helen Howes > Type 2 and Fighting Back Well Hi Helen,
I found that when I was diagnosed, my mind was so busy assimilating the new information in regard to the diabetes, that there just wasn't "room" in my mind to be creative. Sometimes this wasn't something I was always aware of, however, I did find that even when I wasn't doing avid research, my brain seemed to be mulling things over. Perhaps this is what you are experiencing? If so, I can assure you it is a temporary state of events that wanes over time.
Best regards, Michelle C., T2 diet & exercise
helen@raindropkites.co.uk - 06 Aug 2007 20:45 GMT Lots of useful stuff, thanks all. I have been a working self-employed artist for 35 years, (see my work on http://www.raindropkites.co.uk and http://www.helenhowestextiles.co.uk) and have worked through severe and mild depression in the past - sometimes this can be a valuable creative spur. In myself I feel better than I have for ages - I am exercising regularly (bicycle) to cardio levels (have taught and practiced martial arts and qigong for many years, but this is largely to do with balance, flexibility and general health) and I seem to be doing Ok with testing (yes, before and 1 and 2 hrs after meals, all "new" foods tested several times, no grand surprises once I worked out the lowcarb thing, and I am investigating the ins and outs of second phase insulin response at the moment). I have lost about 16 of my target 20 kilograms (was 81 kilos, that is 12 3/4 stones or 178 pounds) and feel lighter and fitter than for some years.. And I know how to push the creativity button when I'm tired. But this is different. Perhaps I am filling up with the new stuff, but I do feel as if I need to get on top of this. I'm stubborn (pig-headed) as heck too...
Found a Type 2 undiagnosed today. Her doctor had said she was "fine" as far as diabetes goes, Without Testing Her Glucose Levels!! She has thirst, pee frequency, hunger, loss of weight, tiredness, irritability and her feet hurt.... Oh, and overweight and over 60...I sent her to her doc, but I was horrified that he was unwilling to do such a simple test...
Helen Howes Type 2, control freak, professional artist and amateur eater... Keep up the good work folks...
Nicky - 06 Aug 2007 21:26 GMT >Lots of useful stuff, thanks all. I have been a working self-employed >artist for 35 years, (see my work on http://www.raindropkites.co.uk >and http://www.helenhowestextiles.co.uk) Hey, you're not far from me (Ipswich) - and I'm sure I've seen and admired your work in the flesh! Are you running courses atm? I've been admiring your postcards and your Japanese bookbinding, with my daughters dribbling on my shoulder too...
Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
Alan S - 07 Aug 2007 00:07 GMT >Found a Type 2 undiagnosed today. Her doctor had said she was "fine" >as far as diabetes goes, Without Testing Her Glucose Levels!! >She has thirst, pee frequency, hunger, loss of weight, tiredness, >irritability and her feet hurt.... Oh, and overweight and over 60...I >sent her to her doc, but I was horrified that he was unwilling to do >such a simple test... Send her here. Give her a printout of Jennifer's advice: http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/ latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforest http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/ latest: Self-Testing and Type 2 Management
Kurt - 06 Aug 2007 23:34 GMT On Aug 6, 1:30?am, he...@raindropkites.co.uk wrote:
> ...any thoughts on this as it relates to diabetes? I am a creative > artist and have found the last few months somewhat less than [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Helen Howes > Type 2 and Fighting Back Well I've made a pretty good living with my "creativity" for a number of years, from before I had diabetes right on through to right now. If you're a creative person then you know that for no apparent reason the muse can take an unexpected break just when you need it the most. There might be some cause/effect in regard to diabetes, but then again it could be for a hundred of other reasons...or even none at all. Creativity is a hard thing to just conjure up at any time; there have been many times in the business that I'm in where I've had to try to do just that. If a person has a gift then they will learn some basic bag of tricks that will provide inspiration when needed, but not always the genius that they are looking for.
When my diabetes is in control I would like to think that provides me with the best chance of coming up with my best work...but that would probably not be true, for me and most other artists. Look at the history of all the creative arts - writing, painting, music, acting, etc. Good physical and mental health is not always the impetus for genius. In fact, sometimes just the opposite is true. Many great artists were in a great deal of pain when they created their most memorable work.
Since I don't know you personally I couldn't say whether your diabetes is getting in the way of your creativity. However, I can say without question that being in good diabetic control is the absolute best thing you can do for your body. And it also will make sure that you are around for a long time for when your creativity stops by for a visit.
Just my inspired coinage...
Kurt
Cheri - 06 Aug 2007 23:56 GMT Kurt wrote in message <1186439650.984530.71570@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com>...
>genius. In fact, sometimes just the opposite is true. Many great >artists were in a great deal of pain when they created their most >memorable work. And some of them were on drugs, big time.
Cheri
johnniemccoy@ - 07 Aug 2007 03:07 GMT > Kurt wrote in message > <1186439650.984530.71570@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com>... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Cheri I tried popping a Lyrica and drawing a picture. It looked like a Picasso with bowel cramps. I spent most of my life in the field of what some would call "creative artistry" (I just called it bar room musician). During forays into drugs (few times and much younger) all I created was crappy music. I did have a few friends, however, who could play their a.s off buzzed. They didn't create anything but they sure could play....lol. Only a few of those, though... most druggies I've known were just burned. There have been, still are I'm sure, artists with disabilities and/or dependencies who've created wonderful works. Being stoned might help but being creative while in pain has gotta be a bitch. I've had to play while in pain.... no creativity there, just finish the song and gimme my money so I can go home....haha.
John
Will, T2 - 07 Aug 2007 03:23 GMT >I tried popping a Lyrica and drawing a picture. It looked like a Picasso >with bowel cramps. At the main building of the National Academy of Sciences in Washington, D.C., ., there is a remarkable statue of Albert Einstein and memorial...
My father, who worked there for many years, dubbed the statue "Einstein Pondering His Last Erection".... Was your Picasso with bowel cramps sorta like that, John...?
Meaning no disrespect to Einstein, here is a link to a photo and discussion of that memorial.
http://www.nasonline.org/site/PageServer?pagename=ABOUT_building_einstein_memorial
Will, T2
johnniemccoy@ - 07 Aug 2007 03:32 GMT >>I tried popping a Lyrica and drawing a picture. It looked like a Picasso >>with bowel cramps. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Will, T2 Probably would have been very close....lol
John
Alan S - 07 Aug 2007 00:06 GMT >...any thoughts on this as it relates to diabetes? I am a creative >artist and have found the last few months somewhat less than [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Helen Howes >Type 2 and Fighting Back Well I've never considered myself creative. Just a staid, logical engineer. I was hopeless at painting, can't read music (but love to listen), never tried to write apart from technical manuals or campaign letters before diagnosis. So I'm probably incapable of answering your question.
The little I have created is what I've written here and on my diabetes and travel blogs; all of that is post-diagnosis. Make of that what you will.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/ latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforest http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/ latest: Self-Testing and Type 2 Management
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