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guys@consolidated.net - 03 Aug 2007 20:19 GMT
For the record--I was diagnosed with diabetes in 1976.  The
doc used a latin word to means-- physician induced.    

I had been put n a drug called Enduronyl..  It
was not needed.

Removal of the drug caused a radicak revrsal.

ut slowly I went to a T1 state that hs persisted for
over 30 years.

It is an opinion, BUT  I think there may some merit to this
diagnosis.

The situation where there is controversy over a drug,
we see the defense of the PROFITS..

The benefit/ harm ratio seems to be less important nowr
Loretta Eisenberg - 03 Aug 2007 23:52 GMT
I am positive that because I had chemotherapy I developed diabetes.

Loretta
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 04 Aug 2007 02:11 GMT
> I am positive that because I had chemotherapy I developed diabetes.
>
> Loretta

Sad to read about your having to overcome cancer and chemotherapy.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for your being a
cancer survivor.

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making your healthier (hungrier)
than ever:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressReleases

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist
Julie Bove - 04 Aug 2007 00:08 GMT
> For the record--I was diagnosed with diabetes in 1976.  The
> doc used a latin word to means-- physician induced.
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>
> The benefit/ harm ratio seems to be less important nowr

Beta Blockers have been linked to diabetes.
Janice - 04 Aug 2007 02:14 GMT
In May, 2004, I took an antibiotic called Tequin for pneumonia. At the end
of June, 2004, I was diagnosed with diabetes. No one in either my mother's
family or my father's family has ever had diabetes. In May, 2007, Tequin was
taken off the market by the FDA because it had a 17times higher risk of
causing diabetes. It does make you wonder.
hlmw - 04 Aug 2007 02:46 GMT
> In May, 2004, I took an antibiotic called Tequin for pneumonia. At the end
> of June, 2004, I was diagnosed with diabetes. No one in either my mother's
> family or my father's family has ever had diabetes. In May, 2007, Tequin was
> taken off the market by the FDA because it had a 17times higher risk of
> causing diabetes. It does make you wonder.

Prednisone use (steroid) was the cause of my diabetes. I am still on it
11 months later. Can not reduce dosage without return of Polymyalgia
rheumatica.  Results of usage are dramatic: thinning skin, hair loss or
growth, watering eyes, weight gain, almost the same symptoms as ioabetes
which makes it difficult to know what is going on. I rely on BG readings
to tell me which is which.
Lorna.. down to 7mgs Prednisone. Diabetes is more controllable as I
reduce Prednisone dosage, but still, must be very careful of spikes --
had one today that was a bit fierce.
Lorna
Chris Malcolm - 04 Aug 2007 10:06 GMT
>> In May, 2004, I took an antibiotic called Tequin for pneumonia. At the end
>> of June, 2004, I was diagnosed with diabetes. No one in either my mother's
>> family or my father's family has ever had diabetes. In May, 2007, Tequin was
>> taken off the market by the FDA because it had a 17times higher risk of
>> causing diabetes. It does make you wonder.

> Prednisone use (steroid) was the cause of my diabetes.

I think in my case too. The killer was ulcerative colitis, which had
me on pretty massive doses for quite a while. As a result I had a
permanently raging hunger and ate about tons more than I usually
did. The nurses in the hospital thought it very amusing that I
followed the food trolley with them round the wards in order to pick
up the extra meals from people who'd died so recently that their meals
hadn't been stopped.

> I am still on it
> 11 months later. Can not reduce dosage without return of Polymyalgia
> rheumatica.  

That's a very nasty one. You have to take it for some years until the
PMR finally gets fed up and goes away. Your PMR hasn't gone, all
you're doing just now is controlling the inflammation to stop it
getting worse. It's only finally really gone when you can stop doing that.

I got PMR after the UC, I suspect partly because my native steroid
production had been damaged by the earlier heavy steroid use. And age
of course. Every doctor I saw diagnosed me as suffering from age as
well as everything else :-)

> Results of usage are dramatic: thinning skin, hair loss or
> growth, watering eyes, weight gain, almost the same symptoms as ioabetes
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> reduce Prednisone dosage, but still, must be very careful of spikes --
> had one today that was a bit fierce.

It's good to have got down to 7mgs. That's around the point where it
gets really hard to get lower, especially if you suffer from age as
well :-) I was told I'd probably never be able to get off, have to
take it for the rest of my life.

The way of reducing dosage which I found worked was the alternate day
method. Keep one day's dosage the same, and reduce the other. So for
example you'd go from 7 & 7 to 7 & 6 to 7 & 5 and so on, until finally
you get down to 7 & 0. Although it has a short half life, the anti
inflammatory effects last a lot longer than the drug in the
bloodstream, and the inflammation takes a while to get started. So you
still control the inflammation, while the days of zero give your dozy
adrenal a regular kick up the backside to start doing their thing
instead of relying on your pills. As their production increases, so
your dosage is able to be reduced.

I probably had diabetes while I was doing that, or at least
progressively worsening prediabetes. Fortunately I didn't know it, so
I had one less thing to worry about :-)

Good luck with the PMR. It does eventually get fed and go away.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 04 Aug 2007 13:07 GMT
> >> In May, 2004, I took an antibiotic called Tequin for pneumonia. At the end
> >> of June, 2004, I was diagnosed with diabetes. No one in either my mother's
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> I think in my case too. The killer was ulcerative colitis, which had
> me on pretty massive doses for quite a while.

Sad to read about your having been afflicted with UC.

> As a result I had a permanently raging hunger

Sad to read about your having issues with the hunger that arose
because the prednisone was helping you overcome your UC.

Your would not have fared as well if the prednisone had not made you
hungrier.

> and ate about tons more than I usually did.

This is the actual cause of your acquiring the visceral adipose tissue
(VAT) that caused the insulin resistance (IR/MetS) that has led to
your developing type-2 diabetes.

> The nurses in the hospital thought it very amusing that I
> followed the food trolley with them round the wards in order to pick
> up the extra meals from people who'd died so recently that their meals
> hadn't been stopped.

If you had known then as you know now that hunger is wonderful and not
being hungry is terribly bad and had taken this to heart, you would
not have overeaten and you would not have been afflicted with type-2
diabetes despite the taking prednisone for UC.

> > I am still on it
> > 11 months later. Can not reduce dosage without return of Polymyalgia
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> I got PMR after the UC, I suspect partly because my native steroid
> production had been damaged by the earlier heavy steroid use.

It was more likely due to the VAT that you acquired from overeating to
kill the hunger because of your issues with the hunger.

Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist
Frank t2 - 04 Aug 2007 06:09 GMT
Some time around 1996, I also 'caught' diabetes.
I don't know how I did it ... I was very active,
as my 'work journey' kept me reasonably fit,
(go to bus stop, bus to train, walk 1 1/2 Km to office)
my diet was not excessive but quite modest,
nobody in my family had diabetes (save my SIL)

I just think best get on with my life and enjoy the
precious moments that we all discover as we
"round the next corner" ...

Frank

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> For the record--I was diagnosed with diabetes in 1976.  The
> doc used a latin word to means-- physician induced.
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Wingmask - 04 Aug 2007 06:32 GMT
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Atenolol - beta blocker. Oops...I still have not told my doc I quit
taking it.
 
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