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Diabetes and the Heat

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Loretta Eisenberg - 02 Aug 2007 19:22 GMT
I just came back from shopping and I thought I was going to faint.  I
have n oticed that in the last few years I cant bear anything over  80.
Today is 91 and I feel wilted.

Does anyone else contribute being hotter to the diabetes.  I am just
wondering,  I am lying like a pancake.  Hope there are no power outtages

Loretta
Susan - 02 Aug 2007 19:41 GMT
> I just came back from shopping and I thought I was going to faint.  I
> have n oticed that in the last few years I cant bear anything over  80.
> Today is 91 and I feel wilted.
>
> Does anyone else contribute being hotter to the diabetes.  I am just
> wondering,  I am lying like a pancake.  Hope there are no power outtages

Yes, Loretta, adrenal suppression leads to heat intolerance.  I had it
bad last year when I was on metformin, and I have it now due to
Cushing's.  I just get limp, weak and feel weak and faint from heat now.

I don't think it's the DM, but it may be other endocrine cause, and/or meds.

Susan
Loretta Eisenberg - 02 Aug 2007 20:00 GMT
Susan, do you immune suppression conditions .  What is the adrenal
thing.

I still havent come to myself,  I just tested.  I had three tiny
blintzes for lunch.  Usually, when I have had it I am usually about 130
at one hour and normal at two.  Today I am 154 about 1 1/2.  could the
heat cause the spike.

Loretta
thanks for the info
Susan - 02 Aug 2007 20:50 GMT
> Susan, do you immune suppression conditions .

You mean like diabetes?

 What is the adrenal
> thing.

It's kind of the master endocrine system that runs your body. Heat and
cold intolerance both are typical in cases of endocrine dysfunction,
adrenal and thyroid, for example.

Diabetes meds tend to suppress adrenal function, because higher insulin
levels (and sensitivity) interferes with cortisol getting into our cells.

> I still havent come to myself,  I just tested.  I had three tiny
> blintzes for lunch.  Usually, when I have had it I am usually about 130
> at one hour and normal at two.  Today I am 154 about 1 1/2.  could the
> heat cause the spike.

It could if it dehydrated you or if your cortisol is higher due to the
stress of the heat.

Susan
Loretta Eisenberg - 02 Aug 2007 22:19 GMT
Susan, you are a very smart woman.  thanks for the info.
Loretta
Susan - 02 Aug 2007 22:34 GMT
> Susan, you are a very smart woman.  thanks for the info.
> Loretta

Thanks, Loretta, but it's not smarts so much as too damned much
experience with illness!

Susan
Cheri - 02 Aug 2007 20:02 GMT
Loretta Eisenberg wrote in message
<12323-46B220E2-225@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net>...
I just came back from shopping and I thought I was going to faint.  I
have n oticed that in the last few years I cant bear anything over
80.
Today is 91 and I feel wilted.

Does anyone else contribute being hotter to the diabetes.  I am just
wondering,  I am lying like a pancake.  Hope there are no power
outtages

Loretta

*******

I don't know the answer Loretta, but I can't tolerate heat much at all
anymore. You have fairly high humidity is NY too don't you? I could do
very well in a climate that doesn't ever get over 65 or 70. :-)

Cheri
Julie Bove - 02 Aug 2007 20:45 GMT
> I don't know the answer Loretta, but I can't tolerate heat much at all
> anymore. You have fairly high humidity is NY too don't you? I could do
> very well in a climate that doesn't ever get over 65 or 70. :-)

Try Alameda, CA.  It's pretty much 70 year round.  Might have a week or two
during the summer where it gets hotter.  Bedding plants there grow like
trees or bushes.
Cheri - 02 Aug 2007 21:35 GMT
Julie Bove wrote in message ...

>> I don't know the answer Loretta, but I can't tolerate heat much at all
>> anymore. You have fairly high humidity is NY too don't you? I could do
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>during the summer where it gets hotter.  Bedding plants there grow like
>trees or bushes.

I'm not that desperate for cooler weather Julie. Have you been to
Alameda/Oakland lately? I'm thinking more of the Oregon Coast. :-)

Cheri
Julie Bove - 03 Aug 2007 02:02 GMT
> I'm not that desperate for cooler weather Julie. Have you been to
> Alameda/Oakland lately? I'm thinking more of the Oregon Coast. :-)

Moved from Alameda when Angela was 4.  That would be 5 years ago.  Hated
living there.  The only thing it had going for it was the weather.  Too
expensive.  Too crowded.  And I couldn't find a decent Dr. anywhere.  The
Dr. I had was in Oakland.  One good thing for her was that we lived in
military housing and there were plenty of kids around for her to play with.
Of course she was younger then and it might not be that way now.  Here,
there are plenty of kids who go to daycare.  That seems to be pretty common
in school aged kids no matter where we've lived.

I happen to like Coos Bay or Astoria, Oregon.  At least to visit.  Might not
feel the same way if I lived there.

And I like the Seattle area most of the time.  Can't complain too much.
We've had some unseasonably hot and cold weather but most of the time it's
fine and dandy.  It's expensive here too, but we never lack for anything to
do.  Pretty much anything I might want can be had within two hours of where
I live.
Loretta Eisenberg - 02 Aug 2007 22:17 GMT
Sounds good to me Julie,  where is that located near

Loretta
Loretta Eisenberg - 02 Aug 2007 22:17 GMT
Cheri, I am with you about the temps.  My daughter wants me to move to
Florida and I say never,  I cant stand the heat here, I am not going
where it is hotter.

Loretta
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 02 Aug 2007 21:20 GMT
> I just came back from shopping and I thought I was going to faint.  I
> have n oticed that in the last few years I cant bear anything over  80.
> Today is 91 and I feel wilted.
>
> Does anyone else contribute being hotter to the diabetes.

Thermoregulation (temperature regulation) is impaired with the
increased peripheral vascular resistance commonly associated with
type-2 diabetes.  This results in an intolerance of temperature
deviations away from the moderate either too cold or too hot.

Would suggest you inform your doctor about your symptom of "going to
faint" (near-syncope).  It is possible s/he will want to refer you to
consult with a cardiologist to exclude a cardiovascular reason for the
near-syncope.

Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed:

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Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist
Will, T2 - 02 Aug 2007 22:15 GMT
>  just came back from shopping and I thought I was going to faint.  I
> have n oticed that in the last few years I cant bear anything over  80.
> Today is 91 and I feel wilted.
>
> Does anyone else contribute being hotter to the diabetes.  I am just
> wondering,  I am lying like a pancake.  Hope there are no power outtages

Hi Loretta,

I don't know about whether it feels hotter, but the effect you feel may be
partly due to the fact that diabetes does interfere with the mechanisms of
our overall biological energy production..... Maybe be you feel the heat
more because it makes you feel literally weaker. Just a supposition....

I know I feel low points during the day in the heat.

Will, T2
Loretta Eisenberg - 03 Aug 2007 00:49 GMT
Thanks Will for your input
Loretta
Will, T2 - 03 Aug 2007 01:37 GMT
>I don't know about whether it feels hotter, but the effect you feel may be
>partly due to the fact that diabetes does interfere with the mechanisms of
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Will, T2

After I made this post, I saw Susan's reply about the endocrine system
and adrenal response... That makes a lot of sense, as I think about
it.

Will, T2
Julie Bove - 03 Aug 2007 02:07 GMT
>>I don't know about whether it feels hotter, but the effect you feel may be
>>partly due to the fact that diabetes does interfere with the mechanisms of
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> and adrenal response... That makes a lot of sense, as I think about
> it.

I've gotten a lot better with temperature extremes.  When my thyroid was out
of whack it was just horrid.  I dressed in lightweight cotton clothing and
kept blankets in every room of my house and even in my vehicle.

A simple quick trip to the drugstore for meds was enough to leave me
drenched in sweat.  And once I got overheated, it could take hours to cool
off again.

By the same token, sitting in the park in the shade could be enough to give
me a bad chill and then I'd need the blankets.

My body seemed to like the range of about 65 to 70 and any deviation one way
or the other left me miserable.

My house is currently 79.4.  It's 71 outside.  Annoying that my house gets
that much warmer than it is outside and it just doesn't cool down.  Haven't
figured out why that is.  I thought it was too well insulated, but my friend
who lives in a neighboring community and has an older house with bad
insulation says her house does the same thing.  At any rate, I am not
suffering.  I do feel a bit warmer than I'd like to be, but I am not
sweating.  When my thyroid was out of whack, I would be running to the
freezer to stick my head in and guzzling cold liquids.
Nico - 03 Aug 2007 04:48 GMT
> >  just came back from shopping and I thought I was going to faint.  I
> > have n oticed that in the last few years I cant bear anything over  80.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> I know I feel low points during the day in the heat.

Are you taking any other medications? Blood pressure medication,
anything else that will affect your fluid and hydration levels?

And I'm stunned. While Chung over-diagnosed, and left out simpler
possibilities like dehydration, being short of salt in hot climaes, or
simply getting older, he actually said something useful about thermo-
regulation problems.
Cougar - 04 Aug 2007 16:13 GMT
This summer is not as bad as last summer.  Last summer, I was not dx yet,
and my doc said my BG was in the 300-500s for sure.  This summer, I can be
out in the heat, but not for long.  Yesterday, it was about 100 degrees here
with very high humidity.  I shopped a little while, and had to come home and
lay down.  The heat totally drained me.  Looking back to last summer though,
I couldn't be out if it was higher than 70 degrees and when it was winter
and snowing with about 30 degrees, I was outside in shorts barefoot in the
snow trying to cool down...that is the truth.  I still can't take the heat,
but it definitely is better than before I was dx and got more stable BG.
Kris
johnniemccoy@ - 03 Aug 2007 06:59 GMT
>I just came back from shopping and I thought I was going to faint.  I
> have n oticed that in the last few years I cant bear anything over  80.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Loretta

I get pretty wasted when I work outside in the heat. It never occured to me
to attribute that to diabetes. I wonder.

John
Loretta Eisenberg - 03 Aug 2007 14:16 GMT
Everyone, I have an appointment next week with the endo.  This subject
will be my first question.

Thank you for all your responses.  

Loretta
Cheri - 03 Aug 2007 16:34 GMT
Loretta Eisenberg wrote in message
<16776-46B32A9C-1383@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net>...
Everyone, I have an appointment next week with the endo.  This subject
will be my first question.

Thank you for all your responses.

Loretta

I'll be interested in hearing what he says.

Cheri
Frank t2 - 03 Aug 2007 23:03 GMT
I exhort 'the great computer in the sky' to be at your side
to comfort you and to keep you well.

"Loretta Eisenberg" <sassybklynlady@webtv.net> a écrit ...
> Everyone, I have an appointment next week with the endo.  This subject
> will be my first question.
>
> Thank you for all your responses.
>
> Loretta
Loretta Eisenberg - 03 Aug 2007 23:43 GMT
Thank you Frank, I appreciate it,  It is just my three month checkup and
hopefully all is well

Loretta
Frank t2 - 04 Aug 2007 06:10 GMT
I meant it ...

"Loretta Eisenberg" <sassybklynlady@webtv.net> a écrit ...
> Thank you Frank, I appreciate it,  It is just my three month checkup and
> hopefully all is well
>
> Loretta
Charles E. Owens - 03 Aug 2007 18:52 GMT
>I just came back from shopping and I thought I was going to faint.  I
> have n oticed that in the last few years I cant bear anything over  80.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Loretta

Loretta my wife is always hot and I am always cold.  Go figure.
Charlie
Emily - 05 Aug 2007 06:02 GMT
> I just came back from shopping and I thought I was going to faint.  I
> have n oticed that in the last few years I cant bear anything over  80.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Loretta

I was very heat intolerant when my BG was running high from my
infection. Now that I'm back in a better range (with low doses of
insulin) I'm not noticing it as much. (still very hot here, and I still
get hot and sweaty at work, wearing my personal protective gear (gown,
mask gloves gogles) while taking care of the animals in very warm rooms...

Emily
 
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