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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / August 2007Confession...
Hello friends... As many of you know, I am married to a true gourmet cook. Well, tonight I sampled a portion of "to die for" blueberry baclava, made with fresh blueberries, chopped walnuts, honey, and tabouli... Yes, it was very wicked and totally "avec plaisir"... One thing about that stuff, I have to really watch it and back off, after only a few nibbles. Will, T2 > Hello friends... > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > stuff, I have to really watch it and back off, after only a few > nibbles. Baklava made with tabouli???? Are you sure you don't mean phyllo pastry? Susan >> Hello friends... >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Susan Er...yes, Susan.. My mistake. It was phyllo pastry... Still amazingly good! :-) Been having some of that salad lately, also.... I typed in the wrong word.... It was a long day. Had a jury trial today, and I am totally exhausted. Will, T2 Will, T2 >>> Hello friends... >>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >Will, T2 We also had some of that salad... Will, T2 >Baklava made with tabouli???? > >Are you sure you don't mean phyllo pastry? > >Susan LOL, I'm pretty sure that's what he meant. Cheri >LOL, I'm pretty sure that's what he meant. Yep, it was, Cheri.. The meal did include tabouli... I was just in the ozone from tiredness. Another feature of dinner tonight is that we had a homemade horseradish sauce to go with some very nice eye of round roast, some of those green beans, and Australian Shiraz (2006)... The BG one hr pp is about 135. (Trying hard to hold on to the guidelines). Will, T2 Will, T2 wrote in message ... >>LOL, I'm pretty sure that's what he meant. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Will, T2 Sounds like a darned good meal Will. It would be hard for me to leave the blueberry baklava alone though. Cheri >>Another feature of dinner tonight is that we had a homemade >>horseradish sauce to go with some very nice eye of round roast, some [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Cheri You got that right, Cheri.. It was/is hard to leave it alone! Hmmmm, maybe with a little whipped cream.... Just another nibble.;-) Will, T2 >>LOL, I'm pretty sure that's what he meant. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Will, T2 Ah HAH, that's the first time you've ever posted a one hour test! ;-) Sharp Eyed Susanb > The BG one hr pp is about 135. (Trying hard to hold on to the > > guidelines). [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Sharp Eyed Susanb Hmmm. As they say, you have to get up early in the morning to fool Sharp Eyed Susan ;-) Will, T2 >>LOL, I'm pretty sure that's what he meant. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Will, T2 Ah Ha!.... Your Shiraz was an 06?...... that must be why I gagged on the Shiraz I had last week.. it was too old... made way back in 04. (hehe) John >>>LOL, I'm pretty sure that's what he meant. >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >John I must be having eye trouble. I thought you wrote that it was an '07... Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. "Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message >> > I must be having eye trouble. I thought you wrote that it > was an '07... > > Cheers, Alan, I did, Alan, jokingly.... bottled in June of 07 if I remember correctly. John >I must be having eye trouble. I thought you wrote that it >was an '07... Hi Alan... It was an '06... I don' t think '07 is very ripe yet. In fact, as I write this, I have decided to have another small glass ;-) Lindeman's Bin 50, just to double check and make sure it is still good! Will, T2 >>I must be having eye trouble. I thought you wrote that it >>was an '07... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Will, T2 Yep... same bottle I had just a different year John >>I must be having eye trouble. I thought you wrote that it >>was an '07... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Will, T2 Yep... still good. I guess I shall just have to finish the glass ;-) Will, T2 Will, I am now starving since you talked about this meal. i dont think you could buy a better one in the finest of restaurants. Loretta >Will, I am now starving since you talked about this meal. i dont think >you could buy a better one in the finest of restaurants. > >Loretta Hi Loretta, Yes, it was truly a fine meal... Most of the time we have really fine meals. The idea is to focus upon flavor and taste, while taking the time to really enjoy it, rather that focusing upon the quantity... Eating that way, a little goes a long way, the food is very enjoyable, and the diabetes is easier to manage, as long as the overall meal does have an excess of carbs and is relatively low-glycemic. If I had "loaded up" on the baclava, though, and not balanced it out with the other stuff, I might have been in trouble. Will, T2 >>Baklava made with tabouli???? >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Cheri I remember walking through NYC's Little Italy with two girlfriends looking for a bakery when one of them, loudly, starting raving about a pastry she'd had made with "fellatio dough." Susan >I remember walking through NYC's Little Italy with two girlfriends >looking for a bakery when one of them, loudly, starting raving about a >pastry she'd had made with "fellatio dough." Now that's truly funny! Not gonna touch that one.... Except to say that I did once know a young woman who used to think that the song, "Venus in Blue Jeans" was really "Penis in Blue Jeans". Ha, etc., and so forth... ;-) Will, T2 >I remember walking through NYC's Little Italy with two girlfriends >looking for a bakery when one of them, loudly, starting raving about a >pastry she'd had made with "fellatio dough." > >Susan LOL, that reminds me of my youngest sister many years ago when one of the in-laws was showing us the cockroach he had had tattooed on his hip. Of course, when we went back inside, she told a room full of elderly relatives that he had a cocks***** tattooed on his hip. It was like someone had dropped a bomb in the middle of the room. She was so terribly embarassed, and we still kid her about it to this day. Cheri > LOL, that reminds me of my youngest sister many years ago when one of > the in-laws was showing us the cockroach he had had tattooed on his > hip. Of course, when we went back inside, she told a room full of > elderly relatives that he had a cocks***** tattooed on his hip. It was > like someone had dropped a bomb in the middle of the room. She was so > terribly embarassed, and we still kid her about it to this day. LOL Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Susan Maybe she was referring to earned income. John "Oh, yuck! ... this pastry blows ! " "Susan" <nevermind@nomail.com> a écrit ... > I remember walking through NYC's Little Italy with two girlfriends > looking for a bakery when one of them, loudly, starting raving about a > pastry she'd had made with "fellatio dough." > > Susan >"Oh, yuck! ... this pastry blows ! " > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >> Susan don't tell me, she got the recipe in the village.  SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . > don't tell me, she got the recipe in the village. ROFL! No, but her husband is middle eastern. Susan >x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Susan snarf! SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . > I remember walking through NYC's Little Italy with two girlfriends > looking for a bakery when one of them, loudly, starting raving about a > pastry she'd had made with "fellatio dough." > > Susan Reminds me of when my brother and I saw "Good Morning Viet Nam" (my parents had seen it first, decided it was o.k. for us to see with guidance and took us). Well, we didn't understand the term "blow job" used in the movie--thought maybe the guy needed a new hair do! LOL. My dad looked up the term in the dictionary for us, and the definition was fellatio. We didn't know what that was, and dad wouldn't tell us. Being the smart cookie that I am, I looked it up in the dictionary later. I was kinda disgusted by it. Wouldn't want a pastry made with it, that's for sure! Emily Susan, I didnt understand the tabouli either. It seemed weird but he said his wife was a gourmet cook. Loretta >Susan, I didnt understand the tabouli either. It seemed weird but he >said his wife was a gourmet cook. > >Loretta And he goofed up in his post... ;-) I meant phyllo... The tabouli was the salad! Will, T2 > Hello friends... > > As many of you know, I am married to a true gourmet cook. Well, > tonight I sampled a portion of "to die for" blueberry baclava, made > with fresh blueberries, chopped walnuts, honey, and tabouli... Yes, it > was very wicked Food is neither wicked nor sinful. > and totally "avec plaisir"... One thing about that > stuff, I have to really watch it and back off, after only a few > nibbles. The problem is not the food but your insulin resistance (IR/MetS). Those without visceral adipose tissue (VAT) and beta islet cell insufficiency would be able to eat a normal serving (2 ounce) of your wife's blueberry baclava without persistent hyperglycemia. Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed: http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Cardiologist >Hello friends... > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Will, T2 and you didn't share? honey!!! get my gun! we're gonna go visit the neighbors at chick's beach...... was still hot from the oven? SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . >and you didn't share? > >honey!!! get my gun! we're gonna go visit the neighbors at chick's >beach...... Hi Mack, In case you have not realized it yet, you and your wife have a standing invitation anytime... There is more for you. Just let us know when you are coming! Will, T2 >>and you didn't share? >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >standing invitation anytime... There is more for you. Just let us know >when you are coming! For those of you who do not know... Mack is a neighbor of sorts, who lives within a few miles of my house. Also, I consider him a friend. Will, T2 >>>and you didn't share? >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Will, T2 Besides, if "I" was actually gonna get Will, I would get the posse from the Garage or The Cactus or Nutty Buddies and we'd really get Will. ;} SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . > Hello friends... > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Will, T2 So, does she make a lot of these delicious high sugar treats? Do you have a large insurance policy by any chance. John >So, does she make a lot of these delicious high sugar treats? Do you have a >large insurance policy by any chance. Most of them that I have, John, are made with Splenda... She does cook for a lot of groups and gatherings... We have thought of opening up a restaurant or a bake shop, but it seems like an awful lot of work... Will, T2 > Hello friends... > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > stuff, I have to really watch it and back off, after only a few > nibbles. Must be a brilliant cook to make tabouli taste great in baclava :) >Must be a brilliant cook to make tabouli taste great in baclava :) Uh, Jan... that was a dumb typing mistake on the part of a not so brilliant Will... Will, T2 >>Must be a brilliant cook to make tabouli taste great in baclava :) > > Uh, Jan... that was a dumb typing mistake on the part of a not so > brilliant Will... :) The one thing about Baklava Will, is that it is so sweet that more than a few nibbles could make someone nauseous. I havent had any in a long time, Maybe I can get one and have a few nibbles. A gourmet cook, you sure are a lucky man Loretta This is confession time ... I had previously posted that, wehn I started in here and testing my BG, I regularly got results of around 190 - 210 ... Then, following a restricted regime, I got down to a regular 140 - 155. Lately, I have been hitting 110 - 120 on rising (good for me, I said) ! So I had an ice cream ... About an hour afterwards, I measured 330 ! My wife went spare ! ... We went for a walk and maybe 3 hrs after the ice cream, I was back down to abt 121, I think. I tell this as a cautionary tale to any lurkers and others who think they can get away with an "occasional sin" ... Want an ice cream ? .. don't even THINK about it ! "Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> a écrit ... > Hello friends... > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Will, T2 " Frank t2" <a@b.c> wrote in message news:46b00fb1$0$29163$79c14f64@nan-> > So I had an ice cream ... > > About an hour afterwards, I measured 330 ! > My wife went spare ! ... Wow! Now that's a spike. I've never had anything (to my knowledge) do that high to me. Was it like a biiiiiiiiiig ice cream? John >This is confession time ... > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Want an ice cream ? .. don't even THINK about it ! Before you go too ballistic - ice cream has a habit of leading to sticky fingers. Are you sure the test site was clean? Any time I get a wild reading (not often, but sometimes) I re-test after a wash. I eat ice cream without spiking - but the portion size is one smallish scoop. I also delay that treat until at least an hour after the main course, and usually test prior to check that I'm not starting with a high before I eat. At least try one more time:-) Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/ latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforest http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/ latest: Self-Testing and Type 2 Management I thought it was accepted that each cn react differently to a particular substance .. Are you denying that now? .. saying I was lying/mistaken ? There IS ice cream and ice cream ... "Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> a écrit ... >>This is confession time ... >> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/ > latest: Self-Testing and Type 2 Management >"Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> a écrit ... >> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >Are you denying that now? .. saying I was lying/mistaken ? >There IS ice cream and ice cream ... geez Frank - I was just suggesting the possibility that you may have had a test error on the chance that you could still enjoy ice cream. Lighten up. Do whatever you want. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. > This is confession time ... > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Want an ice cream ? .. don't even THINK about it ! I had a similar experience with ice cream, my all time favourite food. I decided to try an ice cream cone, so we went to McDonald's (maybe not the best ice cream!) and I had just the ice cream off the top of the small cone and gave hubby the rest. An hour later the bg was 8.5 and my readings until supper time the next day were higher than normal. I guess I am not ready for treats yet! Sally >I decided to try an ice cream cone, so we went to McDonald's (maybe >not the best ice cream!) Yeah - I'm not even sure it bears any relation to dairy product - try a full-cream icecream. My favourite coffee icecream is 11g CHO per 100g, no worries for a 2-scoop serve. It's one of my standby desserts if we have guests, with an expresso poured over. Yum! Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 Mcdonolds serves a ice cream like substance..not real ice cream..lol. Real ice cream is cream and egg yolks and vanilla bean and sugar. Least to me it is and only the sugar would spike me in that mix...so i get ice cream with less sugar and more cream in ingredients. Plus the big key is to eat a appropriat serving size...try eating a small cone at dairy queen..that was a regular cone once. A real serving of ice cream seems very tiny to us now because we eat so much more now...but if you re-learn to eat portions sizes it fills you and sastifies you. KROM > I had a similar experience with ice cream, my all time favourite food. > I decided to try an ice cream cone, so we went to McDonald's (maybe [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > normal. I guess I am not ready for treats yet! > Sally > Mcdonolds serves a ice cream like substance..not real ice cream..lol. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > more now...but if you re-learn to eat portions sizes it fills you and > sastifies you. Yep...I have no shame at ordering what's labeled a child's portion, in a cup. That gives me at most places a single scoop, and it's only slightly more than I'd scoop out for myself at home. SignatureAF "Non Sequitur U has a really, really lousy debate team." --artyw raises the bar on rec.sport.baseball Alice, I do what you do. and if I want to go to mcdonalds, I order a kiddies meal with no bun. they are just the right portions, burger king and any of the fast food restaurants have kiddie meals and I even get a toy. Loretta > Alice, I do what you do. and if I want to go to mcdonalds, I order a > kiddies meal with no bun. they are just the right portions, burger > king and any of the fast food restaurants have kiddie meals and I even > get a toy. I do that at Taco Time. It's the only place that I feel is safe with our food allergies. They make all of their food from scratch. McD's puts milk and wheat in the fries. Technically I could eat at Burger King but I find their food to be inedible. Not sure what they do to it. Ever see on tv the portion that was for an adult 20 years ago compared to today? Even the kids size meals are almost double what an adults meal was then..amazing. And the calorie count is insane...kids will now eat in one meal what an adult did in a day. KROM "Alice Faber" <afaber@panix.com> wrote > > Yep...I have no shame at ordering what's labeled a child's portion, in a > cup. That gives me at most places a single scoop, and it's only slightly > more than I'd scoop out for myself at home. >I had previously posted that, wehn I started in here and testing my BG, >I regularly got results of around 190 - 210 ... [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Want an ice cream ? .. don't even THINK about it Well, there is ice cream and there is ice cream... I find that I can get away with a little less than 1/2 cup of "French Vanilla" that is low carb (ie., made with Splenda)..... The problem with ice cream is that a lot of people have trouble limiting the amount and in avoiding those sweetened with sugar. Will, T2 >>I had previously posted that, wehn I started in here and testing my BG, >>I regularly got results of around 190 - 210 ... [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Will, T2 Very strange disease we got here... ice cream does not bother me, especially, the Breyers CarbSmart. This disease just gets weirder and weirder. John Frank, how much ice cream did you have. If you have about three ounces , and your pre eating number is good, the ice cream might not present such a problem. We all cheat Loretta <VERY shy..> It was a BIG one .... I don't know the weight - I took it in a moment of emergency ! "Loretta Eisenberg" <sassybklynlady@webtv.net> a écrit ... > Frank, how much ice cream did you have. If you have about three ounces > , and your pre eating number is good, the ice cream might not present > such a problem. We all cheat > > Loretta What was the emergency. Why do I think that it was that the ice cream was calling your name and saying eat me eat me. lol Loretta >What was the emergency. Why do I think that it was that the ice cream >was calling your name and saying eat me eat me. lol > >Loretta Must be nice, must resist temptation to poke fun at Loretta for stepping into...... SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . Loretta, Your extreme snipping leaves me with "To whom are you addressing this question?" "Loretta Eisenberg" <sassybklynlady@webtv.net> a écrit ... > What was the emergency. Why do I think that it was that the ice cream > was calling your name and saying eat me eat me. lol > > Loretta Gee, Frank, I havent the vaguest idea. I usually mention the persons name. sorry, but cant help you Loretta lol ... LOVE it (the 'bis repetita' feeling) ! "Loretta Eisenberg" <sassybklynlady@webtv.net> a écrit ... > Gee, Frank, I havent the vaguest idea. I usually mention the persons > name. > > sorry, but cant help you > Loretta >This is confession time ... > >I had previously posted that, wehn I started in here and testing my BG, >I regularly got results of around 190 - 210 ... >Then, following a restricted regime, I got down to a regular 140 - 155. >Lately, I have been hitting 110 - 120 on rising (good for me, I said) ! NICE slope, Frank - congrats! >So I had an ice cream ... > >About an hour afterwards, I measured 330 ! Nah, bet you were testing sticky fingers. Unless you washed and tried again? Still, even that huge number was dealt with well by the walk. Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 Yes ... I wasquite pleased with my progress .. and I still am. After all, I *did* learn from the exercise.... (no, NO sticky fingers) And I am pleased that I know what to do in case of another spike ... TY, Nicky "Nicky" <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> a écrit ... >>This is confession time ... >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > D&E, 100ug thyroxine > Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 > I tell this as a cautionary tale to any lurkers and others who think they > can get away with an "occasional sin" ... > > Want an ice cream ? .. don't even THINK about it ! I thought it was accepted that each cn react differently to a particular substance .. Are you denying that now? .. saying I was lying/mistaken ? lol ... touché ! YOU, at least, may eat as much ice cream as you care to ... "Gantlet" <Tom@TomsDiabeticDiary.com> a écrit ... >> I tell this as a cautionary tale to any lurkers and others who think they >> can get away with an "occasional sin" ... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > substance .. > Are you denying that now? .. saying I was lying/mistaken ? NIbbles dont spike..as long as its like 2 bites.. I discovered i can sneak a bite or two of wifes oatmeal with zero rise. Hard part is makeing sure thats all i eat..lol KROM > Hello friends... > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Will, T2 >Hello friends... > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >stuff, I have to really watch it and back off, after only a few >nibbles. Sounds gorgeous... I sometimes make a "deconstructed baklava", with just a single sheet or two of filo on top. It makes a great baked container for goodies too, if you fold it in a triangular parcel - definitely naughty but nice! Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 Having been to Turkey a few times, I know what kind of stuff was in my mind when I started reading about sweet stuff & Middle East cuisine ... I stopped reading it after that ... I don't need any temptation ... I've enough as it is ! "Nicky" <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> a écrit ... >>Hello friends... >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > D&E, 100ug thyroxine > Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 |
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