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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / August 2007It is religous issue
The time when a group of cells becomes a person is a religious issue. The cost and quiality of health care is a medical issue that is pertinent to diabetes and all other chronic illness. Todau there is no reason for a mature person to become preganent So this issue does not belong here especially since it is a Holy mess. The same laws that will allow certain views to be shoved down the throoat of others could be used to ban a religion. Be careful that we do not build our own jail. You know there is some chance that mandantory abortion may come about when the population pressures becomes an issue. Think before you demand others conform to your standard. It could be said that anytime a girl is fertile and does not get preganent she is kill a potentail "human" I do NOT take a stand but I am pointing out the volatible nature of this issue and a reason it is wrong to bring it here. Othe other hand, send me title to your property and I wil bless it. And out of the blue you will get rich :-) Religion does not belong here. convicted friend Guy (g...@consolidated.net) wrote: > The time when a group of cells becomes a person is a religious issue. > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Religion does not belong here. GOD is omnipresent... ... and HE is not religious. Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed by GOD: http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Cardiologist guys@consolidated.net wrote in message ... >Todau there is no reason for a mature person to become preganent There also is no reason for a *mature* person to impregnate someone. >It could be said that anytime a girl is fertile and >does not get preganent she is kill a potentail "human" It could be said that anytime a male masturbates, he is killing a potential human too, but only an idiot would say something like that. >I do NOT take a stand but I am pointing out the >volatible nature of this issue and a reason >it is wrong to bring it here. Yabbut you started a thread about something that is "wrong to bring here", so it goes where it goes. Your above statements do show that you have taken a stand by assessing the blame for pregnancy to women. BTW, I have a book to sell you about the Birds and the Bees, and how people become pregnant, you sexist little thing, you. ;-) Cheri > guys@consolidated.net wrote in message ... > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > BTW, I have a book to sell you about the Birds and the Bees, and how > people become pregnant, you sexist little thing, you. ;-) Not to mention the fact that the only method of birth control that's 100% reliable is abstinence. Priscilla >> guys@consolidated.net wrote in message ... >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >Priscilla Last I heard sterilization works very well and is a lot more fun.  SignatureGrandpa Chuck -ô¿ô- ~ Americans killed in the occupation of Iraq as of July 29, 2007 is 3,651. United Kingdom = 163 Other = 129. How many more Americans must die to satisfy Bush's ego? Let us all pray for Bush - God knows he needs it! As of July 30, 2007 it has been 1552 days since Bush while standing in front of the banner which was sent to the ship by the White House saying MISSION ACCOMPLISHED declared,"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed." IOW MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. Isn't Bush's "surge" of troops working well? Pay attention to the frequency of American deaths since it began. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair Lewis >>> guys@consolidated.net wrote in message ... >>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > >Last I heard sterilization works very well and is a lot more fun. Guess I had better take a stand. There is an excellent excuse for strict sex behavior. It is the best way rto pass on several diseases that you can fnd Durng my life I have seen so many that were born in the wrong circumstances. It a close call, but maybe t they would have been better, if they had never been born. Guess they make good slaves or cannon fodder. I had two children and their developent and education was the highest priority. Mona had two children and she sent both through college even though her husband died very early. But I have seen so many that were relewgated to an inferior situation before they wer born. I bet I knew about the bird and bees at an earlier age than you. I grew up in a rough enviroment. Thst had little effect on tsking unnecessary risk in a moment where the instincts dominated us. Religious rules made long ago in great ignorance should be examined carefully. Careful living is a marker of itewlligence. >On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:42:52 GMT, Grandpa Chuck >>Last I heard sterilization works very well and is a lot more fun. > >Guess I had better take a stand. There is an excellent excuse for >strict sex behavior. Are you joking? The best answer is a good, truthful, non judgmental sex education. > It is the best way rto pass on several >diseases that you can fnd > >Durng my life I have seen so many that were born in the wrong >circumstances. It a close call, but maybe t they would have been >better, if they had never been born. That is not for you nor I to say - EVER. > Guess they make good slaves or >cannon fodder. > >I had two children and their developent and education was the highest >priority. And I had seven. I did the best at that I could considering being married to a woman that put me down at every turn and challenged every standard I tried to set for the kids. The details of that would probably curl you hair. >Mona had two children and she sent both through college even >though her husband died very early. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >I bet I knew about the bird and bees at an earlier age than you. Another ridiculous statement on your part. >I grew up in a rough enviroment. Thst had little effect on >tsking unnecessary risk in a moment where the instincts dominated us. How far down that road do you really want to go? Where I live teens were not allowed to buy condoms or diaphragms and there weren't any other artificial means of birth control or disease protection. >Religious rules made long ago in great ignorance should be >examined carefully. Careful living is a marker of itewlligence. Please explain what you mean by "Careful living is a marker of intelligence." To me it just sounds like one more chance for you to put _your_ judgments on others. SignatureGrandpa Chuck -ô¿ô- ~ Americans killed in the occupation of Iraq as of July 29, 2007 is 3,651. United Kingdom = 163 Other = 129. How many more Americans must die to satisfy Bush's ego? Let us all pray for Bush - God knows he needs it! As of July 30, 2007 it has been 1552 days since Bush while standing in front of the banner which was sent to the ship by the White House saying MISSION ACCOMPLISHED declared,"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed." IOW MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. Isn't Bush's "surge" of troops working well? Pay attention to the frequency of American deaths since it began. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair Lewis "Priscilla H. Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message news:vze23t8n- > Not to mention the fact that the only method of birth control that's > 100% reliable is abstinence. > > Priscilla Depressing John johnniemccoy@ wrote in message ... >"Priscilla H. Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message news:vze23t8n- >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >John Truly! Cheri >"Priscilla H. Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message news:vze23t8n- >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >John there are several methods of enjoy sex that are totally safe, and totally effective when it comes to birth control. Abstinence is not the only way. SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . >>"Priscilla H. Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message news:vze23t8n- >>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >totally effective when it comes to birth control. Abstinence is not >the only way. Amen brother. Those pushing abstinence only as an agenda are generally the same people who want mind control over others. You know, like far too many irreligious groups and their leaders. SignatureGrandpa Chuck -ô¿ô- ~ Americans killed in the occupation of Iraq as of July 29, 2007 is 3,651. United Kingdom = 163 Other = 129. How many more Americans must die to satisfy Bush's ego? Let us all pray for Bush - God knows he needs it! As of July 30, 2007 it has been 1552 days since Bush while standing in front of the banner which was sent to the ship by the White House saying MISSION ACCOMPLISHED declared,"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed." IOW MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. Isn't Bush's "surge" of troops working well? Pay attention to the frequency of American deaths since it began. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair Lewis >Amen brother. Those pushing abstinence only as an agenda are generally >the same people who want mind control over others. You know, like far >too many irreligious groups and their leaders. Sometimes you can tell em by that milky look in their eyeballs. ;-) Will, T2 >>Amen brother. Those pushing abstinence only as an agenda are generally >>the same people who want mind control over others. You know, like far [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Will, T2 wait a minute, are we talking about the same people? for some reason I just the image of religious clergy on their knees asking for a tissue to wipe their eyes after they broke their own rules AGAIN. SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . >wait a minute, are we talking about the same people? for some reason I >just the image of religious clergy on their knees asking for a tissue >to wipe their eyes after they broke their own rules AGAIN. And thus, starts the cycle of frustration, all over again, culminating in milky eyeballs, followed by more rule-breaking.... and the need for more tissues. Will, T2 >>"Priscilla H. Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message >>news:vze23t8n- [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > totally effective when it comes to birth control. Abstinence is not > the only way. When I was young I used the "crossed fingers" method. It worked.... often. John >When I was young I used the "crossed fingers" method. It worked.... often. But John, you were a rascal, and rascals get away with a lot ;-) Were you the subject of that lovelorn young woman who sang, "Johnnie Angel"? Will, T2 >>When I was young I used the "crossed fingers" method. It worked.... often. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Will, T2 Shelly Fabares was the delightful young singer of that song... recorded in 1962 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4832LQ0_T8g Will, T2 "Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message > But John, you were a rascal, and rascals get away with a lot ;-) I prefer the term, "swordsman? .... hehe John now retired, blunted blade ? "johnniemccoy@" <johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> a écrit ... > "Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > John > now retired, blunted blade ? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> >> John overstressed steel John >>>"Priscilla H. Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message >>>news:vze23t8n- [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >John An orange seemed to work How? put it between the legs. At least thread has not been touting our free enterprie system Free to steal and con. We are a stupid lot. >An orange seemed to work How? put it between the legs. Guy, please issue keyboard alerts. Damn - and I just cleaned it! Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/ latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforest http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/ latest: Self-Testing and Type 2 Management >>An orange seemed to work How? put it between the legs. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg >Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. I like what we told the girls in my family. a knee to his balls is the best method. and once he hits the floor a few kicks for good luck. SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . guys@consolidated.net wrote in message <483ta3p0oos4pfhlb5g42jkt5rsjjevsek@4ax.com>... >>>>"Priscilla H. Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message >>>>news:vze23t8n- [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> >An orange seemed to work How? put it between the legs. Wouldn't a cold shower have worked as well for you as the orange juice running down your leg? Cheri > guys@consolidated.net wrote in message > <483ta3p0oos4pfhlb5g42jkt5rsjjevsek@4ax.com>... [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Cheri Men don't squeeze things that tight, Cheri. John >> guys@consolidated.net wrote in message >> <483ta3p0oos4pfhlb5g42jkt5rsjjevsek@4ax.com>... [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > >John John, soome people do get very excited. Duh, if Iremember correcly \ Guy >Men don't squeeze things that tight, Cheri. > >John You never met the right man. Måck©® wrote in message ... >On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 03:30:32 GMT, "johnniemccoy@" >>Men don't squeeze things that tight, Cheri. >> >>John > >You never met the right man. LOL Cheri >An orange seemed to work How? put it between the legs. Hers or his? SignatureGrandpa Chuck -ô¿ô- ~ Americans killed in the occupation of Iraq as of July 29, 2007 is 3,651. United Kingdom = 163 Other = 129. How many more Americans must die to satisfy Bush's ego? Let us all pray for Bush - God knows he needs it! As of July 30, 2007 it has been 1552 days since Bush while standing in front of the banner which was sent to the ship by the White House saying MISSION ACCOMPLISHED declared,"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed." IOW MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. Isn't Bush's "surge" of troops working well? Pay attention to the frequency of American deaths since it began. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair Lewis >>An orange seemed to work How? put it between the legs. > >Hers or his? This is one area where I object giving giving lessons. I don't remember anyway. GUY >>>An orange seemed to work How? put it between the legs. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >I don't remember anyway. Okay. It wouldn't work anyway if the couple just do it doggy-style. SignatureGrandpa Chuck -ô¿ô- ~ Americans killed in the occupation of Iraq as of July 30, 2007 is 3,653. United Kingdom = 163 Other = 129. How many more Americans must die to satisfy Bush's ego? Let us all pray for Bush - God knows he needs it! As of July 31, 2007 it has been 1553 days since Bush while standing in front of the banner which was sent to the ship by the White House saying MISSION ACCOMPLISHED declared,"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed." IOW MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. Isn't Bush's "surge" of troops working well? Pay attention to the frequency of American deaths since it began. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair Lewis >>>An orange seemed to work How? put it between the legs. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > GUY typical, can't put up, but won't shut up. SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . >When I was young I used the "crossed fingers" method. It worked.... often. You hope :D Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 > >"Priscilla H. Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message news:vze23t8n- > >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > totally effective when it comes to birth control. Abstinence is not > the only way. In this context abstinence refers to abstaining from heterosexual coitus. Priscilla >> >"Priscilla H. Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message news:vze23t8n- >> >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Priscilla Hell, when I was a teen we didn't know about oral sex and anal was only practiced between two boys. SignatureGrandpa Chuck -ô¿ô- ~ Americans killed in the occupation of Iraq as of July 30, 2007 is 3,653. United Kingdom = 163 Other = 129. How many more Americans must die to satisfy Bush's ego? Let us all pray for Bush - God knows he needs it! As of July 31, 2007 it has been 1553 days since Bush while standing in front of the banner which was sent to the ship by the White House saying MISSION ACCOMPLISHED declared,"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed." IOW MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. Isn't Bush's "surge" of troops working well? Pay attention to the frequency of American deaths since it began. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair Lewis Well, maybe you didn't get out enough ? "Grandpa Chuck" <GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> a écrit ... > Hell, when I was a teen we didn't know about oral sex and anal was > only practiced between two boys. Exactly. What do you do about panspermia ? Some female dominated societies do not even recognise the primeval uncontrollable urge to procreate .. a basic biological necessity that the male of the species can do nothing about ... Personally, I shun with the greatest of vehemence, such societies ... "johnniemccoy@" <johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> a écrit ... > "Priscilla H. Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:vze23t8n- [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > John >>It could be said that anytime a girl is fertile and >>does not get preganent she is kill a potentail "human" > >It could be said that anytime a male masturbates, he is killing a >potential human too, but only an idiot would say something like that. An interesting solution for the overpopulation problem... Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/ latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforest http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/ latest: Self-Testing and Type 2 Management > >>It could be said that anytime a girl is fertile and > >>does not get preganent she is kill a potentail "human" [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > An interesting solution for the overpopulation problem... Yeah, I wonder how much the teenage pregnancy rate would drop if young men were encouraged to j.rk off regularly -- or whenever they felt like it. Priscilla >> >>It could be said that anytime a girl is fertile and >> >>does not get preganent she is kill a potentail "human" [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Priscilla What about girls? SignatureGrandpa Chuck -ô¿ô- ~ Americans killed in the occupation of Iraq as of July 30, 2007 is 3,653. United Kingdom = 163 Other = 129. How many more Americans must die to satisfy Bush's ego? Let us all pray for Bush - God knows he needs it! As of July 31, 2007 it has been 1553 days since Bush while standing in front of the banner which was sent to the ship by the White House saying MISSION ACCOMPLISHED declared,"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed." IOW MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. Isn't Bush's "surge" of troops working well? Pay attention to the frequency of American deaths since it began. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair Lewis This should be makred OT Guy Abortion is a legal issue to me, not a religious one My faith believes that life begins when a child is born I have no ethical or religous beliefs that contradict a womens right to choose. It is the law of the land I dont want those religious zealots getting into our laws. Loretta >This should be makred OT Guy > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Loretta Loretta, this subject reminds me of the old adage. Keep them bare footed and pregnant. Early in my life it might have been--Keep them bent over the wash board. electricity was not common in rural America. I went to school with so many orphans where their mother died in child birth. In so many cases they had a stepmother shortly. Being exposed to many segment of our society alters my view a lot. Easy answers are usually defective. I try to look at things from many angles. So I insult all. Heh now theres a unfortunate double entredre..lol KROM . Early in my life it might have been--Keep them bent over the wash board. =---- >Heh now theres a unfortunate double entredre..lol > >KROM > >. Early in my life it might have been--Keep them bent over > the wash board. =---- Reallyy not intended. Before washng machne washday was a big deal It is hard to expain to so many spoied brats today the burden of living in the past. Rights were so far down the list. We did not vhave many modern washers until the late 40's. And I will repeat-- so many women died in child birth. and in the false modesty that delayed examnation of a problem until it was too late. These were the real issues as I witnessed them. Not if someone can arrange a sex psarty tonight. By the way, I know of saeveral peple that had a horrible later life because they were unaware of the disease problem. When I was very young, an old man warned me about the walking sewers that were around. Let's see how this sells. I know guy i was ribbin ya. I am an annoying brat..lol. <hangs head> KROM Before washng machne washday was a big deal > It is hard to expain to so many spoied brats today the burden of > living in the past. Rights were so far down the list. > > We did not vhave many modern washers until the late 40's. >I know guy i was ribbin ya. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> We did not vhave many modern washers until the late 40's. Sure ,you are a brat. JUst as I was to my elders earlier. I am trying to remember where I went wrong with the title fthis thread. I will blame Priscilla but I don't remenber why. Wash boards were hell on the hands. I was in NY and remember the clothes hanging over the streets. It was wash day. Whats gross to me is people would empty thier chamber pots onto the street..gross! KROM >>I know guy i was ribbin ya. >> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption > =---- Remember it still goes on in some variations This thread took on mind of it's own. Guess it relieves the boredom of diabetes and our limited knowledge of the chronic problem. Maybe I should go back to the dirty hospital routine. As the population increases, the need for more sanitation becomes apparent. The scene makes it obvious that there is great risk Shades of the black plague. I still think that there might be an obvious cause of part of the diabetes problem. >Whats gross to me is people would empty thier chamber pots onto the >street..gross! [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >> ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption >> =---- guys@consolidated.net wrote in message <0uh1b357n0hk245teirl46pvci5ub7kgln@4ax.com>... >Remember it still goes on in some variations This thread took on >mind of it's own. Guess it relieves the boredom of diabetes and >our limited knowledge of the chronic problem. All threads take off in different directions, it's just a question of when. :-) Cheri What's gross to ME, is the lightness with which some sectors of the planet will kill other parts of mankind, at the same time as rejecting certain different 'acts of move' between consensual adults, directions of science exploration which could help mankind, giving parity to science and religion in reference to education So, chamber pots, types of government etc., EXCUSE ME, there is some refocusing to be done ... Obfuscation intended. "krom" <thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> a écrit ... > Whats gross to me is people would empty thier chamber pots onto the > street..gross! [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >> ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption >> =---- >What's gross to ME, is the lightness with which some sectors >of the planet will kill other parts of mankind, at the same time [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Obfuscation intended. I can just see chung's head spinning like a top after reading that one. Good job Frank. SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . LOL That was a glad iw asnt drinking when i read that moment..lol KROM >>What's gross to ME, is the lightness with which some sectors >>of the planet will kill other parts of mankind, at the same time [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Good job Frank. This world is based on survival of the fittest. We can dream up some rational society but that is not the way things really work. We are a hodge podge of instincts and lore. If you dig deep, reasons can be found for most things and why they have happened. I am damned with a brain that asks so many questions. I do not have many answers. One example is we protect a single cell but kill a teenage kid in the most horrible way possible. A few of my friends say we are nothing but jungle bunnies in a costume. It will never change since most of our behavior in the string of DNA. Altruism always loses to the killer instinct. The rest follows. I worked on Atomic tests and these items may solve the whole thing. >What's gross to ME, is the lightness with which some sectors >of the planet will kill other parts of mankind, at the same time [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] >>> ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption >>> =---- >The time when a group of cells becomes a person is a religious issue. no it's not. >The cost and quiality of health care is a medical issue that is >pertinent to diabetes and all other chronic illness. mot just chronic illness. >Todau there is no reason for a mature person to become preganent are you smoking crack? >So this issue does not belong here especially since >it is a Holy mess. Diabetics get pregnant. It is on topic. >The same laws that will allow certain views to be shoved down the >throoat of others could be used to ban a religion. >Be careful that we do not build our own jail. Stop making things up. >You know there is some chance that mandantory abortion may come about >when the population pressures becomes an issue. would that this were in effect when chung's mother was pregnant, there would be one less whack job harassing usenet. >Think before you demand others conform to your standard. practice what you preach. >It could be said that anytime a girl is fertile and >does not get preganent she is kill a potentail "human" if you are going to use that kind of demented logic, every time a male has wet dream they are guilty of the same crime. In fact spilling one's seed on the ground is specifically mentioned. But not getting pregnant every time a woman is ovulating is NOT mentioned in religious texts. So your interpretation is not only wrong, but guess which gender is gonna get punished. >I do NOT take a stand but I am pointing out the >volatible nature of this issue and a reason >it is wrong to bring it here. then you should have left it alone. Instead you are needless stirring sh.t. >Othe other hand, send me title to your property >and I wil bless it. And out of the blue you will > get rich :-) yea, and every TV evangelist who makes that claim ends the same way, dead and 6 feet under just like everyone else on the planet. >Religion does not belong here. then stop bringing it up and whining about it. 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