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Mmmm, corn!

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Alice Faber - 30 Jul 2007 02:47 GMT
Native corn is in at my local farmstand. Sweet corn. I bought one ear
yesterday, and steamed it for dinner, with a reheated barbecued chicken
thigh. I ate half of it (with butter and salt, of course!) and saved
half of it. My post-prandial bg was 118 mg/dl (at c. 90 minutes). By way
of comparison, tonight I had more left-over chicken, with green beans
from my garden and a few thin slices of tomato with basil and drizzled
with olive oil and balsamic vinegar, and was at 100 mg/dl at 90 minutes.
So, I guess delicious, sweet, fresh-picked (did I say sweet?) corn isn't
totally off the menu.

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Emily - 30 Jul 2007 03:31 GMT
> Native corn is in at my local farmstand. Sweet corn. I bought one ear
> yesterday, and steamed it for dinner, with a reheated barbecued chicken
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> So, I guess delicious, sweet, fresh-picked (did I say sweet?) corn isn't
> totally off the menu.

Yummy!  We have corn in at our farm stands too.  The problem is, I live
alone and have no one to share corn with. The people at the farm stands
have so much corn, they always give you extras. (they get a new batch
every day, so it is always picked fresh. The sugars in corn start
turning to starch as soon as it is picked, so the sooner you eat it
after picking the better it is--one of my moms friends grows corn, and
has a corn dinner the day her corn is ready. She and her husband have
one or two couples over, and they eat ALL the corn. It is picked husked
and plopped in the boiling water in less than ten minutes, so it will be
at its peak.  I tried to tell the guy at the farm stand that I wouldn't
eat the extra corn, that I was a diabetic and COULDN'T eat a lot of
corn, so he gave me one extra ear instead of two. Sigh.  So, I ate one
small ear of corn (it was delicious, and I can handle a small ear of
corn), but the other one was wasted. (sorry, but I'm not going to waste
my carbs/insulin on a less than perfect ear of corn).

Emily
Alice Faber - 30 Jul 2007 03:39 GMT
> > Native corn is in at my local farmstand. Sweet corn. I bought one ear
> > yesterday, and steamed it for dinner, with a reheated barbecued chicken
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> corn), but the other one was wasted. (sorry, but I'm not going to waste
> my carbs/insulin on a less than perfect ear of corn).

My farmstand doesn't give extras, fortunately. So I could buy one ear of
corn and one small peach. What I did with the corn was cook the entire
ear, and save the kernels from half of it to put on salads. But it
rained enough this afternoon that I couldn't pick lettuce for dinner, so
they're still in the fridge (boo, hiss).

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Julie Bove - 30 Jul 2007 03:40 GMT
> Yummy!  We have corn in at our farm stands too.  The problem is, I live
> alone and have no one to share corn with. The people at the farm stands
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> was wasted. (sorry, but I'm not going to waste my carbs/insulin on a less
> than perfect ear of corn).

You can always cut the corn from the ear and freeze it.  Then use it a
little at time to add to soups or stews.
Emily - 30 Jul 2007 03:57 GMT
>> Yummy!  We have corn in at our farm stands too.  The problem is, I live
>> alone and have no one to share corn with. The people at the farm stands
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> You can always cut the corn from the ear and freeze it.  Then use it a
> little at time to add to soups or stews.

Hmmm.... Hadn't thought of that. I don't usually cut it from the ear,
cause it just seems like so much work. I suppose it's not really.  Of
course, we have tons of corn where I live (Iowa is known for growing
corn).  My mom makes vegetable beef soup with corn and lima beans and
such in it. I don't usually think of adding those things to my soups.
Though I do need to get some new soup recipes for winter. Too hot right
now for soup. My favorite way to eat corn though is on the cob, hot out
of the pan (I put the corn in cold water, and turn the heat on when the
water is boiling the corn is done!) with a light coating of butter and
freshly ground black pepper. I've never liked salt on anything. (had
someone tell me once that I kept getting sick because I didn't eat salt.
That seemed odd.) I don't even own any salt (well not plain salt, I'm
sure there is salt in some of the prepared foods I have).  I do however
like pepper on almost everything.. that and garlic. YUM!(though I
wouldn't put garlic on corn, it might be good, and I might try it on
corn I ate in the winter, but it would somehow ruin the purity of fresh
summer corn on the cob.)

Emily
Julie Bove - 30 Jul 2007 05:07 GMT
> Hmmm.... Hadn't thought of that. I don't usually cut it from the ear,
> cause it just seems like so much work. I suppose it's not really.  Of
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> corn, it might be good, and I might try it on corn I ate in the winter,
> but it would somehow ruin the purity of fresh summer corn on the cob.)

I learned to cut it off because I hate it on the cob.  Sticks in my teeth.
Also dislike it cooked.  I thought I really didn't like corn, except for
popcorn.  The only way I could eat it was if it was mixed into something or
just a bite or two cooked.  Didn't ever want any more.  Then I tried it raw.
Oh yum!  It's like candy.

As for salt, I only put it on potatoes, popcorn, corn chips (if they're not
already salted) and sometimes green salad or other raw veggies.  I use very
little of it in cooking.  Recently I bought some Herbamare.  It has salt in
it but other seasonings as well and can be used in all sorts of things.
I've been using it in my cooking instead of plain salt.

Husband is a salt pig.  He salts anything and everything.  The lady at my
health food store said people who feel the need to salt everything are
probably deficient in iodine.
Jimmie D - 31 Jul 2007 19:46 GMT
>> Hmmm.... Hadn't thought of that. I don't usually cut it from the ear,
>> cause it just seems like so much work. I suppose it's not really.  Of
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> or just a bite or two cooked.  Didn't ever want any more.  Then I tried it
> raw. Oh yum!  It's like candy.

Raw corn is great in a salad. Also you can brown it in the skillet for a
little different flavor. Both are great. There are a lot of different
vegetables that can be eaten raw that are not normally considered as ones
you would want to eat that way, okra and yellow squash or pickeled string
beans. The okra and squash are great in salads and the picled beans are
great by themselves.

Jimmie

Jimmie
Jimmie D - 31 Jul 2007 19:38 GMT
>> Native corn is in at my local farmstand. Sweet corn. I bought one ear
>> yesterday, and steamed it for dinner, with a reheated barbecued chicken
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> Emily
Julie Bove - 30 Jul 2007 03:39 GMT
> Native corn is in at my local farmstand. Sweet corn. I bought one ear
> yesterday, and steamed it for dinner, with a reheated barbecued chicken
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> So, I guess delicious, sweet, fresh-picked (did I say sweet?) corn isn't
> totally off the menu.

Try it raw.  The flavor is out of this world and it doesn't spike me.  Some
people slather it with coconut oil and salt.  I cut it from the cob (hate
eating it on the cob) and sprinkle on some salt and pepper.  Sometimes I
made it into a salad with chopped onion, pepper, tomato, cilantro and maybe
some black or kidney beans or lentil sprouts and a bit of olive oil.
Ricavito - 30 Jul 2007 05:25 GMT
> > Native corn is in at my local farmstand. Sweet corn. I bought one ear
> > yesterday, and steamed it for dinner, with a reheated barbecued chicken
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> made it into a salad with chopped onion, pepper, tomato, cilantro and maybe
> some black or kidney beans or lentil sprouts and a bit of olive oil.

I like it raw too with just salt, or sometimes I just through it
unhusked on the grill with whatever else is on.  I just have it
rarely, maybe one a month and those are the days I "forget" to do a
post prandial test.  I honestly don't know if it spikes me or not but
I expect so.
Alan S - 30 Jul 2007 03:54 GMT
>Native corn is in at my local farmstand. Sweet corn. I bought one ear
>yesterday, and steamed it for dinner, with a reheated barbecued chicken
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>So, I guess delicious, sweet, fresh-picked (did I say sweet?) corn isn't
>totally off the menu.

I also buy local corn at roadside stalls in season. I shuck
it and cut it in three (the portion is about 2-3" long),
then blanch the mini-cobs and freeze those I'm not eating
immediately. That portion size causes me no problems as a
side vege at dinner, but I can't handle them at lunch.

I steam them straight from the freezer until the corn is hot
and sweet and the centre is thawed; add real butter and
salt...mmmmm.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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ray - 30 Jul 2007 16:11 GMT
> Native corn is in at my local farmstand. Sweet corn. I bought one ear
> yesterday, and steamed it for dinner, with a reheated barbecued chicken
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> So, I guess delicious, sweet, fresh-picked (did I say sweet?) corn isn't
> totally off the menu.

For me, few things are 'totally off the menu'. I find if I exercise
portion control, I can eat a lot of things.
Nicky - 30 Jul 2007 17:32 GMT
>So, I guess delicious, sweet, fresh-picked (did I say sweet?) corn isn't
>totally off the menu.

Yup, I can have a small whole one at lunchtime.

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6%  BMI 25
Loretta Eisenberg - 31 Jul 2007 00:23 GMT
Alice,, for me I have found that very little is off the menu for me.
Tonight for dinner I had fresh asparragus that I overcooked, about three
ounces of rib steak and about a cup of pasta.  I do not expect it to
affect me adversely.  I also had ten cherries.

Learning to eat smaller portions works for both my weight and my
diabetes and yet I dont feel deprived.

Loretta
Frank t2 - 31 Jul 2007 01:49 GMT
100%; Loretta.

I started with smaller plates, then smaller portions came quite easily
I needed the smaller plates to get my wife used to portion sizes ...

"Loretta Eisenberg" <sassybklynlady@webtv.net> a écrit ...
> Alice,, for me I have found that very little is off the menu for me.
> Tonight for dinner I had fresh asparragus that I overcooked, about three
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>
> Loretta
Emily - 01 Aug 2007 17:22 GMT
> 100%; Loretta.
>
> I started with smaller plates, then smaller portions came quite easily
> I needed the smaller plates to get my wife used to portion sizes ...

Isn't the psychology of smaller plates interesting?  I know when I was
younger, and my mom was serving ice cream to 'the kids' after dinner (my
brother and I and some friends kids) she used a very small bowl filled
to the top for the youngest, and larger bowls filled maybe half way for
the rest of us. The youngest one actually had a little less ice cream
than the rest of us, but because her bowl was very full and ours were
not, it made it seem like she was getting more. Worked like a charm to
give us each the amount of ice cream right for us without drawing the
complaint of "hey I got less ice cream" from the youngest one who
couldn't have as much.  (she was maybe three or four, the rest of us
were nine and up).

Emily
Loretta Eisenberg - 31 Jul 2007 02:28 GMT
Just to report that after my steak and pasta dinner with cherries, my bg
is 97.  byetta and metformin together work wonders.

Loretta
 
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