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Julie Bove - 30 Jul 2007 01:29 GMT
I've been buying pre-made falafel patties at our local Central (Town and
Country) Market.  Angela and I are not allergic to them.  They are about the
size of a little sausage patty.  I find I can eat 7 or 8 of them at one time
for lunch or dinner with no spike.  We also get some sliced tomatoes and
sometimes some lettuce as well.  I will eat them either by topping with
lettuce (if I get it) and a tomato slice, or by making a sandwich with two
tomato slices and the falafel in the middle.  We sometimes eat a few olives
with this meal. It's a very refreshing summer meal and it's nice and
filling.
Wingmask - 30 Jul 2007 01:31 GMT
> I've been buying pre-made falafel patties at our local Central (Town and
> Country) Market.  Angela and I are not allergic to them.  They are about the
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> with this meal. It's a very refreshing summer meal and it's nice and
> filling.

Detective Flass on Batman Begins stole a falafel from a hard wiorking
vendor.
KevinB - 30 Jul 2007 02:25 GMT
> I've been buying pre-made falafel patties at our local Central (Town and
> Country) Market.  Angela and I are not allergic to them.  They are about the
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> with this meal. It's a very refreshing summer meal and it's nice and
> filling.

If you can get whole-wheat pita breads, chop up some lettuce, tomato,
and cucumber, and if your local store carries "tahini" sauce (which is
mostly sesame seeds), you can make a very nice falafel sandwich.
Note that falafel patties are mostly ground up chick-peas, so that's
probably why they don't spike you.

Kevin
Ozgirl - 30 Jul 2007 02:40 GMT
>> I've been buying pre-made falafel patties at our local Central (Town and
>> Country) Market.  Angela and I are not allergic to them.  They are about
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> Note that falafel patties are mostly ground up chick-peas, so that's
> probably why they don't spike you.

That begs to be accompanied by tabouli.
Julie Bove - 30 Jul 2007 03:42 GMT
> That begs to be accompanied by tabouli.

Oh, waaay too many carbs for me. Sometimes I get the tiniest taste of it at
the same store.  They have a salad bar as well as the cold vegetarian food
bar.
Alice Faber - 30 Jul 2007 04:38 GMT
> > That begs to be accompanied by tabouli.
>
> Oh, waaay too many carbs for me. Sometimes I get the tiniest taste of it at
> the same store.  They have a salad bar as well as the cold vegetarian food
> bar.

If it's too many carbs, the store isn't making it right. Authentic
tabouli is predominantly a chopped parsley salad, with chopped cucumber
and/or tomato. The wheat is just an accent. These days, I make it with
two bunches of parsley to 1/4 cup bulgur.

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Susan - 30 Jul 2007 14:40 GMT
> If it's too many carbs, the store isn't making it right. Authentic
> tabouli is predominantly a chopped parsley salad, with chopped cucumber
> and/or tomato. The wheat is just an accent. These days, I make it with
> two bunches of parsley to 1/4 cup bulgur.

Yes, I know it's almost all parsley from making it with a Lebanese
friend, with a bit of bulgar, lemon juice, oil, tomato.  It's virtually
all carbs.

Susan
Susan - 30 Jul 2007 04:12 GMT
> That begs to be accompanied by tabouli.

Falafel and tabouli are serious spike foods for me.  All starches still
are, except, miraculously, Western Bagels Perfect 10 gram carb bagels.
103 an hour after eating.

Susan
Ozgirl - 30 Jul 2007 08:13 GMT
> x-no-archive: yes
>
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> are, except, miraculously, Western Bagels Perfect 10 gram carb bagels. 103
> an hour after eating.

They must get made differently there. Maybe ours have much more parsley than
cracked wheat. But barley would be a good alternative. To me, a real
tabouli, like Lebanese friends used to make, had not a great deal of visible
wheat. I have seen in some "delis", tabouli that has a lot of wheat in
proportion to the parsley, but that is not the genuine middle eastern way of
doing it.
Julie Bove - 30 Jul 2007 08:56 GMT
>> x-no-archive: yes
>>
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> wheat in proportion to the parsley, but that is not the genuine middle
> eastern way of doing it.

What I can get here is mostly wheat with a bit of parsley and some chopped
tomato in it.  I've made it from a boxed mix, adding a ton more veggies, but
I can still only eat a bite or two.  And then of course I have a huge bowl
of something my husband won't eat and that Angela is allergic to.
Loretta Eisenberg - 30 Jul 2007 14:58 GMT
Susan I am happy to hear that the western bagels are working for you.
do they taste like real bagels New York Style.

We know New York makes the best  bagels.

lol

Loretta
Julie Bove - 30 Jul 2007 02:43 GMT
> If you can get whole-wheat pita breads, chop up some lettuce, tomato,
> and cucumber, and if your local store carries "tahini" sauce (which is
> mostly sesame seeds), you can make a very nice falafel sandwich.
> Note that falafel patties are mostly ground up chick-peas, so that's
> probably why they don't spike you.

Too many carbs in that for me.  This same store does sell made up sandwiches
like that.  They look like burritos.  I love them but I think they are badly
mislabeled.  The label says something like 15g of carbs per serving and one
is a serving.  But they spike me very badly when I eat them.  I also have
problems with the pita I buy in the store due to my food allergies.  I think
it has milk in it or something I'm allergic to.  I was just looking up
recipes for it online but none of those seem to have milk in them.  I have
made it from scratch.  It was good but a pain to make.

I am wondering about the pita served at a local restaurant.  They couldn't
tell me what is in it.  They said they don't make it themselves.  It's not
the really thin, pocket type pita but thicker, like a pancake.  It's really
good and they do a starter of pita wedges, hummus and olives.  I've been
asking for cucumbers instead of the pita so I have something to dip into it.
But it's not quite enough carbs for me.  I've tried eating their regular
bread which they do make and I know is safe.  But apparently three small
chunks of that bread is enough to send me to spike city.
ted rosenberg - 30 Jul 2007 15:24 GMT
>  
>> If you can get whole-wheat pita breads, chop up some lettuce, tomato,
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>
>  

Yo tell if it has no milk, look on the label to see if it has the word
"Parve" ,Pareve" or "Parevine"  anywhere.  These are Kosher
certifications for "no milk products and no meat prroducts:
Julie Bove - 30 Jul 2007 19:53 GMT
> Yo tell if it has no milk, look on the label to see if it has the word
> "Parve" ,Pareve" or "Parevine"  anywhere.  These are Kosher certifications
> for "no milk products and no meat prroducts:

They claim none of the pre-made food has any sort of labels on it to tell
what the ingredients are.  I'm not sure I believe this.  Other restaurants
have checked labels on things for me.
ted rosenberg - 30 Jul 2007 20:03 GMT
>  
>> Yo tell if it has no milk, look on the label to see if it has the word
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>
>  
Well, if it is packaged food, even wholesale, it has to have a label as
required by the Pure  Food and Drug Act

also, having had to buy stuff for a "young Jewish Adults dinner" that my
son was involved in running, I can tell you that Rest rant Depot, US
Foods, Saval, and H&S bakeries are all QUITE aware of the Kosher and
Hall el status of everything they sell.  That  alone is a major piece of
the US food wholesale food trade
Will, T2 - 30 Jul 2007 23:57 GMT
>Well, if it is packaged food, even wholesale, it has to have a label as
>required by the Pure  Food and Drug Act
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>Hall el status of everything they sell.  That  alone is a major piece of
>the US food wholesale food trade

There are several Kosher delis and groceries around here... At least
there, you know what you are getting.

Will, T2
Julie Bove - 31 Jul 2007 01:31 GMT
>>> Yo tell if it has no milk, look on the label to see if it has the word
>>> "Parve" ,Pareve" or "Parevine"  anywhere.  These are Kosher
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> el status of everything they sell.  That  alone is a major piece of the US
> food wholesale food trade

Maybe I could try a different tactic and ask them what bakery the pita comes
from.  Then I could call them directly.  They have some weird French fries
as well.  Have some sort of a coating on them.  But they don't know what the
coating is, so we don't eat them.  They don't seem to know what their steak
seasoning is either.
ted rosenberg - 31 Jul 2007 04:15 GMT
>  
>>    
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>
>  

AH - curly cheese fries - Egyptian
W. Baker - 30 Jul 2007 20:25 GMT
: > If you can get whole-wheat pita breads, chop up some lettuce, tomato,
: > and cucumber, and if your local store carries "tahini" sauce (which is
: > mostly sesame seeds), you can make a very nice falafel sandwich.
: > Note that falafel patties are mostly ground up chick-peas, so that's
: > probably why they don't spike you.

: Too many carbs in that for me.  This same store does sell made up sandwiches
: like that.  They look like burritos.  I love them but I think they are badly
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
: recipes for it online but none of those seem to have milk in them.  I have
: made it from scratch.  It was good but a pain to make.

: I am wondering about the pita served at a local restaurant.  They couldn't
: tell me what is in it.  They said they don't make it themselves.  It's not
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
: bread which they do make and I know is safe.  But apparently three small
: chunks of that bread is enough to send me to spike city.
hemyd - 30 Jul 2007 07:45 GMT
>> I've been buying pre-made falafel patties at our local Central (Town and
>> Country) Market.  Angela and I are not allergic to them.  They are about
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>
> Kevin

Falafel is OK for me. Pita bread, in whatever form, shoots up my bg.

Henry Mydlarz.
Loretta Eisenberg - 30 Jul 2007 02:43 GMT
I love falafel Julie,  Here in New York, they make them in a pita bread,
with balls not patties, then they add israeli salad which is finely cut
up tomatoes , cucumbers, etc. no lettuce.  Then topped with tahini sauce
and sauerkraut.  Gee my mouth is watering.

I get half a falafel when I do, and it is about two to three dollars
tops.

Loretta
Julie Bove - 30 Jul 2007 03:42 GMT
>I love falafel Julie,  Here in New York, they make them in a pita bread,
> with balls not patties, then they add israeli salad which is finely cut
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> I get half a falafel when I do, and it is about two to three dollars
> tops.

That sounds good!
Ozgirl - 30 Jul 2007 08:16 GMT
>>I love falafel Julie,  Here in New York, they make them in a pita bread,
>> with balls not patties, then they add israeli salad which is finely cut
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>
> That sounds good!

They are called doner kebabs here. My favourite way of having it is to have
it on a plate - traditionally that would be the pita laid flat and the
topping on it like an open sandwich. But I order it on a plate without
bread. The meats and salad plus tabouli and a bit of hummus is delicious.
Falafel is ok for me instead of the meat and without the added pita bread
(bg-wise).
Julie Bove - 30 Jul 2007 08:57 GMT
> They are called doner kebabs here. My favourite way of having it is to
> have it on a plate - traditionally that would be the pita laid flat and
> the topping on it like an open sandwich. But I order it on a plate without
> bread. The meats and salad plus tabouli and a bit of hummus is delicious.
> Falafel is ok for me instead of the meat and without the added pita bread
> (bg-wise).

I thought a Donner Kebab had meat in it?  I am confused.
Ozgirl - 30 Jul 2007 09:30 GMT
>> They are called doner kebabs here. My favourite way of having it is to
>> have it on a plate - traditionally that would be the pita laid flat and
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>
> I thought a Donner Kebab had meat in it?  I am confused.

At my local Kebab place they have lamb, beef or chicken, or you can order a
mix of the 3 meats or you can have falafel instead of the meat.
Julie Bove - 30 Jul 2007 09:41 GMT
>> I thought a Donner Kebab had meat in it?  I am confused.
>
> At my local Kebab place they have lamb, beef or chicken, or you can order
> a mix of the 3 meats or you can have falafel instead of the meat.

Oh okay.  We don't have such things here.
ted rosenberg - 30 Jul 2007 15:39 GMT
>  
>>> I thought a Donner Kebab had meat in it?  I am confused.
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>
>  
You might be surprised
In this area, "Kabob" resterants are mainly Afghan or Persian, at the
high end, and Pakistani.at the low.  The Falafel can mainly be found at
Egyptian places, particularly at Pizza places with Egyptian names.  
Oddly enough, despite a very large Jewish population, I don't know of
any Israeli kabob places currently in business here,

This will vary from area to area - we have lots of Afghans and Persians
here, but relatively few Lebanese.

Egyptian falafel is often made with either Fava beans, or a mixture of
Fava and Chickpeas.
.
Frank t2 - 30 Jul 2007 15:50 GMT
What IS this "Kabob" that is constantly refered to ?

Is it the American version of the original 'Kebab' ?
If so, is it 'Ameican Official' or just a colloquial dialect ?

F

"ted rosenberg" <tedrosenberg@iname.com> a écrit ...

>>>> I thought a Donner Kebab had meat in it?  I am confused.
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Fava and Chickpeas.
> .
Ozgirl - 30 Jul 2007 21:45 GMT
> What IS this "Kabob" that is constantly refered to ?

Kebab can be a couple of things. One is meat, veg or fruit on a skewer. The
other is doner kebab. Spicy meat, salad veggies and other extras like
hummus, tabouli, sauces etc rolled inside pita bread. The best ones are then
"toasted" like a KFC toasted Twister :)
Frank t2 - 31 Jul 2007 00:49 GMT
I know what a kebab is ...

"Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> a écrit ...

>> What IS this "Kabob" that is constantly refered to ?
>
> Kebab can be a couple of things. One is meat, veg or fruit on a skewer.
> The other is doner kebab. Spicy meat, salad veggies and other extras like
> hummus, tabouli, sauces etc rolled inside pita bread. The best ones are
> then "toasted" like a KFC toasted Twister :)
Alan S - 30 Jul 2007 23:56 GMT
>What IS this "Kabob" that is constantly refered to ?
>
>Is it the American version of the original 'Kebab' ?
>If so, is it 'Ameican Official' or just a colloquial dialect ?
>
>F

This site is an example from one of our local franchise
operations.
http://www.utk.com.au/menu.html

The meat is cooked on an upright spit, in the same way as
Greek Gyros (pr yiros) like this:
http://www.explorecrete.com/cuisine/images/gyros_C5881.jpg

Then it is sliced off thinly, added to the salad veges,
which vary depending on whether the shop is Lebanese, Greek,
Turkish etc. Then the sauce of choice is added and the lot
is rolled up in Pita Bread.

Falafel is usually separately prepared in portions about the
size of golf balls and four or five would be used to replace
the meat in a falafel kebab.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Frank t2 - 31 Jul 2007 00:53 GMT
THAT site mentions kebab ..

I was picking up on Kabob  <<=== notice the different spelling ?

"Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> a écrit ...

>>What IS this "Kabob" that is constantly refered to ?
>>
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> http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
> latest: Self-Testing and Type 2 Management
Will, T2 - 31 Jul 2007 00:56 GMT
>THAT site mentions kebab ..
>
>I was picking up on Kabob  <<=== notice the different spelling ?

I noticed, Frank... that is why I was waiting to see how the others
responded ;-)

Will, T2
Will, T2 - 31 Jul 2007 00:59 GMT
>>THAT site mentions kebab ..
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Will, T2

Back in my younger days, I once had a couple of Afghans living in my
home for months... They were fugitives from their own land. It was a
real education in a multitude of ways...

Today, he is a respected Professor in Psychology, having earned a
Ph.D. from the Univ. of California, Berkeley. It is one of my better
success stories.

Will, T2
Loretta Eisenberg - 31 Jul 2007 02:02 GMT
Will for the first sentence I thought you were talking about dogs

Loretta :-)
Will, T2 - 31 Jul 2007 02:14 GMT
>Will for the first sentence I thought you were talking about dogs
>
>Loretta :-)

They are remarkable people, Loretta, and I gained valuable insight
from them into the mindset of much of that part of the world. My
friends, Farid and Fowzia, are Pashtun. Their story is both horrific
and wonderful, beyond imagining....

Now they have a new life.

Will, T2
Julie Bove - 31 Jul 2007 01:28 GMT
>>THAT site mentions kebab ..
>>
>>I was picking up on Kabob  <<=== notice the different spelling ?
>
> I noticed, Frank... that is why I was waiting to see how the others
> responded ;-)

I think there are several spellings for it, depending on your nationality.
Hummus is also spelled as hummous or hommous or hommos.
Frank t2 - 31 Jul 2007 01:57 GMT
Oh, so now I can use "babe" when I spell "lady" ?

if we're accepting alternate speillings for words ...

lol ....

"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> a écrit ...

>>>THAT site mentions kebab ..
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I think there are several spellings for it, depending on your nationality.
> Hummus is also spelled as hummous or hommous or hommos.
Ozgirl - 31 Jul 2007 03:58 GMT
>>THAT site mentions kebab ..
>>
>>I was picking up on Kabob  <<=== notice the different spelling ?
>
> I noticed, Frank... that is why I was waiting to see how the others
> responded ;-)

Hmm, other than Frank I didn't see anyone else write that.
Frank t2 - 01 Aug 2007 00:11 GMT
Nicky     09/07  09:58
 Samosas, bhajias and kabobs I recognised
Ted R.   10/07   21:26
  In this area, "Kabob" resterants are mainly Afghan or Persian

Times will be different as I am in Paris ...

"Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> a écrit ...

>>>THAT site mentions kebab ..
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Hmm, other than Frank I didn't see anyone else write that.
Ozgirl - 01 Aug 2007 00:40 GMT
> Nicky     09/07  09:58
>  Samosas, bhajias and kabobs I recognised
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>>
>> Hmm, other than Frank I didn't see anyone else write that.

Ta
Ozgirl - 31 Jul 2007 04:04 GMT
Ok, more than you wanted to know... :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kebab

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%B6ner_kebab
ted rosenberg - 31 Jul 2007 04:12 GMT
>  
>> What IS this "Kabob" that is constantly refered to ?
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Greek Gyros (pr yiros) like this:\
>  
<snip>
Ah, the silent "g" in Greek transliteration, everyone seems to call the
stuff GUY- rows instead of Heroes (yiros)
Will, T2 - 31 Jul 2007 04:21 GMT
> (yiros)

That's what we call em around here...

yiros...

Will, T2
Alan S - 31 Jul 2007 05:10 GMT
>> (yiros)
>
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>
>Will, T2

We call them gyros when served on a plate instead of wrapped
in Pita bread.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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ted rosenberg - 31 Jul 2007 06:04 GMT
>  
>> (yiros)
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Will, T2
>  
an correctly so
Måck©® - 31 Jul 2007 19:36 GMT
>>  
>>> What IS this "Kabob" that is constantly refered to ?
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>Ah, the silent "g" in Greek transliteration, everyone seems to call the
>stuff GUY- rows instead of Heroes (yiros)

or J eye  rows

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Julie Bove - 30 Jul 2007 19:50 GMT
> You might be surprised
> In this area, "Kabob" resterants are mainly Afghan or Persian, at the high
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> Egyptian falafel is often made with either Fava beans, or a mixture of
> Fava and Chickpeas.

I don't know of any in this area at all.  We recently got an Indian
restaurant.  I believe there might be one Egyptian place in Seattle. Mexican
food is pretty common here and Thai food is getting more common.  Also a lot
of Asian places.  We have a big Asian community here.
Nicky - 30 Jul 2007 17:21 GMT
>> They are called doner kebabs here. My favourite way of having it is to
>> have it on a plate - traditionally that would be the pita laid flat and
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>I thought a Donner Kebab had meat in it?  I am confused.

It does here - it's a great cone-shaped lamb concoction, about the
size of a man's thigh, then it's cooked upright in front of a flame.
Bits are sliced off as they cook, so you get a mix of cookedness. One
of my favourite junk foods, it's served with a cabbage slaw and a
fiery chilli sauce in a pita. Gets really messy extracting the meat
and veg from the pita without spreading chili sauce everywhere : )

Falafel are generally mixed with a crumb filler here, so too carby for
me. One day I'll get energetic and make them myself - I can eat a fair
portion of hummous, so they should be OK.

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6%  BMI 25
Will, T2 - 30 Jul 2007 23:57 GMT
>It does here - it's a great cone-shaped lamb concoction, about the
>size of a man's thigh, then it's cooked upright in front of a flame.
>Bits are sliced off as they cook, so you get a mix of cookedness. One
>of my favourite junk foods, it's served with a cabbage slaw and a
>fiery chilli sauce in a pita. Gets really messy extracting the meat
>and veg from the pita without spreading chili sauce everywhere : )

Sounds a little bit like a gyro, Nicky...

Will, T2
Frank t2 - 31 Jul 2007 00:52 GMT
REAL food has to be sort of sexual ... like the
kebab that Nicky describes here ...

"Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> a écrit ...

>>It does here - it's a great cone-shaped lamb concoction, about the
>>size of a man's thigh, then it's cooked upright in front of a flame.
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>
> Will, T2
W. Baker - 31 Jul 2007 03:37 GMT
: >> They are called doner kebabs here. My favourite way of having it is to
: >> have it on a plate - traditionally that would be the pita laid flat and
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
: >
: >I thought a Donner Kebab had meat in it?  I am confused.

: It does here - it's a great cone-shaped lamb concoction, about the
: size of a man's thigh, then it's cooked upright in front of a flame.
: Bits are sliced off as they cook, so you get a mix of cookedness. One
: of my favourite junk foods, it's served with a cabbage slaw and a
: fiery chilli sauce in a pita. Gets really messy extracting the meat
: and veg from the pita without spreading chili sauce everywhere : )

: Falafel are generally mixed with a crumb filler here, so too carby for
: me. One day I'll get energetic and make them myself - I can eat a fair
: portion of hummous, so they should be OK.

: Nicky.
: T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
: D&E, 100ug thyroxine
: Last A1c 5.6%  BMI 25

Sounds  like schwarma in Israel or gyro in Greece.  Essentially the sme
kind of dish with different meats depending nn locl custom and religious
dietary laws.

Wendy
Alan S - 30 Jul 2007 09:39 GMT
>They are called doner kebabs here. My favourite way of having it is to have
>it on a plate - traditionally that would be the pita laid flat and the
>topping on it like an open sandwich. But I order it on a plate without
>bread. The meats and salad plus tabouli and a bit of hummus is delicious.
>Falafel is ok for me instead of the meat and without the added pita bread
>(bg-wise).

The doner is a meat version only; falafel is a vegetarian
option in most kebab shops. I never really got to like it,
although I've tried it a few times.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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hemyd - 30 Jul 2007 21:55 GMT
>>>I love falafel Julie,  Here in New York, they make them in a pita bread,
>>> with balls not patties, then they add israeli salad which is finely cut
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> Falafel is ok for me instead of the meat and without the added pita bread
> (bg-wise).

A chicken kebab on a plate, with tabouli and no bread, is my ideal low bg
and low fat meal. The only thing that often deters me from asking for
chicken on a plate with no bread, is that many places charge significally
more than for the same meal in a wrap.

Henry Mydlarz
Ozgirl - 30 Jul 2007 22:24 GMT
>>>>I love falafel Julie,  Here in New York, they make them in a pita bread,
>>>> with balls not patties, then they add israeli salad which is finely cut
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> chicken on a plate with no bread, is that many places charge significally
> more than for the same meal in a wrap.

Our local chain (Ali Baba I think) have always had a kebab on a plate
option, open sandwich type thing instead of rolled up. Same price. I ask for
no bread on a plate and they charge me a little less.
Alan S - 30 Jul 2007 23:59 GMT
>>>>I love falafel Julie,  Here in New York, they make them in a pita bread,
>>>> with balls not patties, then they add israeli salad which is finely cut
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
>Henry Mydlarz

I often share a standard size kebab with SWMBO as a lunch
while out shopping; most shops will cut it in half for us.
The local franchise has a smaller "snack" size which isn't
bad. If I limit the portion to that the carbs are OK for a
lunch.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Will, T2 - 30 Jul 2007 04:26 GMT
>I've been buying pre-made falafel patties at our local Central (Town and
>Country) Market.  Angela and I are not allergic to them.  They are about the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>with this meal. It's a very refreshing summer meal and it's nice and
>filling.

We have a fabulous Lebanese restaurant here in VB, VA.... Azar's .

I eat there frequently, and they have great falafel! It is always a
100% winner, in terms of BG, as long as I follow the rules of my own
devising.

Sadly, George, the man who founded it, died a year, or so, ago.
Nevertheless, his family keeps his memory alive in continuing his very
fine establishment.

Will,T2
Frank t2 - 30 Jul 2007 13:45 GMT
...

So, what does "falafel" taste like ?

F

"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> a écrit ...
> I've been buying pre-made falafel patties at our local Central (Town and
> Country) Market.  Angela and I are not allergic to them.  They are about
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> sometimes eat a few olives with this meal. It's a very refreshing summer
> meal and it's nice and filling.
ironjustice@aol.com - 30 Jul 2007 16:05 GMT
>> On Jul 30, 5:45 am, " Frank t2" <a...@b.c> wrote:
So, what does "falafel" taste like ? <<

I would say somewhat like a mild ..  HP .. sauce ..

It's all in the .. recipe .. ?

"They have the propensity to taste like overfried sawdust balls to me,
but these were moist, herbacious and, dare I say, meaty."

http://www.chowhound.com/topics/390480

"I bought some a while ago and made up a burger and it was the most
discusting thing I have ever tasted. I was told it was because I
didn't mix other things in with it and just had 100% falafel. ugh it
was repulsive. "

http://www.vegsoc.org.au/forum_messages.asp?Thread_ID=2985&Topic_ID=1

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Loretta Eisenberg - 30 Jul 2007 21:44 GMT
Frank a Falafel is ground up chick peas I think,  and then they deep fry
it.  wonderful cause of heartburn, but every once in a while, I need a
fix.  If you have any mideastern restaurants in your neighborhood, yu
can probably find them there

Loretta
Frank t2 - 31 Jul 2007 00:48 GMT
lol,
OK, thank you  Loretta.

I've been to Labanese restaurants and really enjoy the food,
so maybe I have eaten it.
I know I enjoyed the food when I was in the Lebanon ...
Frank

"Loretta Eisenberg" <sassybklynlady@webtv.net> a écrit ...
> Frank a Falafel is ground up chick peas I think,  and then they deep fry
> it.  wonderful cause of heartburn, but every once in a while, I need a
> fix.  If you have any mideastern restaurants in your neighborhood, yu
> can probably find them there
>
> Loretta
Julie Bove - 30 Jul 2007 19:51 GMT
> ...
>
> So, what does "falafel" taste like ?

Pretty much like hummus.  But it has a meaty sort of texture.
Frank t2 - 31 Jul 2007 00:46 GMT
TY  Jukie ...

"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> a écrit ...

>> ...
>>
>> So, what does "falafel" taste like ?
>
> Pretty much like hummus.  But it has a meaty sort of texture
johnniemccoy@ - 31 Jul 2007 03:32 GMT
> I've been buying pre-made falafel patties at our local Central (Town and
> Country) Market.  Angela and I are not allergic to them.  They are about
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> sometimes eat a few olives with this meal. It's a very refreshing summer
> meal and it's nice and filling.

Jeez.... I really do have to get out more. About a year ago, I heard the
word "falafel" for the first time in my life. Perhaps I should get above the
Mason Dixon line more often.

John
Julie Bove - 31 Jul 2007 04:06 GMT
> Jeez.... I really do have to get out more. About a year ago, I heard the
> word "falafel" for the first time in my life. Perhaps I should get above
> the Mason Dixon line more often.

I didn't know what it was until recently.  I'd heard of it but had no clue.
People told me I wouldn't like it so I never bothered to look.  I did learn
that I don't like baba ganoush (sp?) at all though.  Sounded good, but...
johnniemccoy@ - 31 Jul 2007 04:31 GMT
>> Jeez.... I really do have to get out more. About a year ago, I heard the
>> word "falafel" for the first time in my life. Perhaps I should get above
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> did learn that I don't like baba ganoush (sp?) at all though.  Sounded
> good, but...
.....  baba ganoush?... jeez, another one.

John
Dennis R. - 31 Jul 2007 05:06 GMT
> > Jeez.... I really do have to get out more. About a year ago, I heard the
> > word "falafel" for the first time in my life. Perhaps I should get above
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> People told me I wouldn't like it so I never bothered to look.  I did learn
> that I don't like baba ganoush (sp?) at all though.  Sounded good, but...

I usually order Bab Ganoush (Ganouj) or however the English As A Second
Language - ESL- owner tries to spell it. It is roasted or baked eggplant
mixed pretty much like hummus (ESL spellings around here: humus, hommos,
homus, etc.). Both have tahini sauce, lemon juice, garlic, olive oil,
etc. I just find it has far less carbs than hummus (chickpeas). I like
the smokey eggplant taste and the lighter texture, but can understand
why many people don't. I use Ryvita instead of pita bread to save more
carbs.

Other ESL spellings on local signs: kebab, kebob, kabab, kabob. Midle
Eastern Food. Kefta, kofta.

In our middle eastern restaurants, donair (donner) are turkish; gyros
are greek; souvlaki (pork kebab sandwich) is greek; Shawarma (beef or
chicken) and falafel are arab / israeli / palestinian; and kofta or
kefta (seasoned ground meat kebabs or loaves) is common to the Balkans,
Turkey, and most Middle-Eastern countries. Lamb is usually served as
braised shanks or roasts, as it is more expensive than beef. Lamb is
still very popular in the restaurants, but they charge for it.

Dennis - Type 2
(Windsor, Ontario, Canada - next door to Detroit, Michigan)
Nicky - 31 Jul 2007 08:52 GMT
>I didn't know what it was until recently.  I'd heard of it but had no clue.
>People told me I wouldn't like it so I never bothered to look.  I did learn
>that I don't like baba ganoush (sp?) at all though.  Sounded good, but...

I love it - it's my favourite thing to do with an aubergine!

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6%  BMI 25
Ozgirl - 31 Jul 2007 09:52 GMT
>>I didn't know what it was until recently.  I'd heard of it but had no
>>clue.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> I love it - it's my favourite thing to do with an aubergine!

<smirk>
Nicky - 31 Jul 2007 18:40 GMT
>>>I didn't know what it was until recently.  I'd heard of it but had no
>>>clue.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
><smirk>

Bah :D

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6%  BMI 25
johnniemccoy@ - 31 Jul 2007 10:24 GMT
>>I didn't know what it was until recently.  I'd heard of it but had no
>>clue.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Nicky.

Damn it! Now it's an aubergine. Where are you people getting this stuff?

John
W. Baker - 31 Jul 2007 17:20 GMT
: >>I didn't know what it was until recently.  I'd heard of it but had no
: >>clue.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
: >
: Damn it! Now it's an aubergine. Where are you people getting this stuff?

: John

IN Britain, that is what they call, what we call eggplant.  I guess it
comes from the French. Maybe it came over with the Normans:-)

Now parse that sentance

Wendy
Julie Bove - 31 Jul 2007 21:07 GMT
> Damn it! Now it's an aubergine. Where are you people getting this stuff?

Eggplant.
Frank t2 - 01 Aug 2007 00:17 GMT
Bookseller alert:
'Nicky's "100 things to do with an aubergine" will now be found in the
cookery section ...'

"Nicky" <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> a écrit ...

>>I didn't know what it was until recently.  I'd heard of it but had no
>>clue.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> D&E, 100ug thyroxine
> Last A1c 5.6%  BMI 25
Ozgirl - 31 Jul 2007 04:07 GMT
>> I've been buying pre-made falafel patties at our local Central (Town and
>> Country) Market.  Angela and I are not allergic to them.  They are about
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Jeez.... I really do have to get out more. About a year ago, I heard the
> word "falafel" for the first time in my life.

Only because of this?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0172543/
Will, T2 - 31 Jul 2007 04:20 GMT
>>> I've been buying pre-made falafel patties at our local Central (Town and
>>> Country) Market.  Angela and I are not allergic to them.  They are about
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
>http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0172543/

Hah! That's funny... "He Died With a Falafel in His Hand"

Actually, I often have a little falafel, made with fava beans, but I
don't think I want to die with one in my hand...

Will, T2
Frank t2 - 01 Aug 2007 00:13 GMT
Do me a fava ...

"Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> a écrit ...

>>>> I've been buying pre-made falafel patties at our local Central (Town
>>>> and
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> Will, T2
johnniemccoy@ - 31 Jul 2007 04:32 GMT
>>> I've been buying pre-made falafel patties at our local Central (Town and
>>> Country) Market.  Angela and I are not allergic to them.  They are about
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0172543/

The first time I ever heard the word was on an episode of "Friends."

John
Ozgirl - 31 Jul 2007 04:50 GMT
>>>> I've been buying pre-made falafel patties at our local Central (Town
>>>> and Country) Market.  Angela and I are not allergic to them.  They are
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>>
> The first time I ever heard the word was on an episode of "Friends."

Who said TV wasn't educational ;)
ted rosenberg - 31 Jul 2007 04:17 GMT
>  
>> I've been buying pre-made falafel patties at our local Central (Town and
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>  
Why, I live south of the Mason Dixon Line.  Now if you REALLY want
Falafel, in Israel and Lebanon Falafel stands are more ubiquitous than
Starbuck's
Frank t2 - 01 Aug 2007 00:06 GMT
Or abroad ..

Johnnie, have you ever been a broad ?

;))

"johnniemccoy@" <johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> a écrit ...

>> I've been buying pre-made falafel patties at our local Central (Town and
>> Country) Market.  Angela and I are not allergic to them.  They are about
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> John
 
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