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Fresh Eggs From Happy Chickens

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Will, T2 - 28 Jul 2007 15:17 GMT
Good morning folks,

Well, thanks to some of you here who have awakened me to the idea that
all eggs are not created equal, I went out this morning determined to
buy especially organically produced fresh eggs from cage free happy
chickens :-) What I found are promised to contain 275 mg of Omega 3
Fatty acids in each egg, of which 75 mg are DHA Fatty Acids....

These look like very happy, proud, tall-standing eggs....

Will, T2
Grandpa Chuck - 28 Jul 2007 17:24 GMT
>Good morning folks,
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>Will, T2

ROFLMBO !!!
Thanks Will.
Just what I needed to get my day going on the sunny side up.
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Will, T2 - 28 Jul 2007 19:09 GMT
>>Good morning folks,
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>Thanks Will.
>Just what I needed to get my day going on the sunny side up.

Hi chuck,

Glad I could help you get your day off to a good start :-)

Will, T2
Delboy - 28 Jul 2007 18:10 GMT
Hi Will,

Sorry to disappoint you, but according to recent research measuring stress
hormone levels in battery, barn and free range eggs, all sets of chickens
are equally "happy".

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=4685
65&in_page_id=1770


Enjoy your eggs ;o}

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> Good morning folks,
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> Will, T2
Will, T2 - 28 Jul 2007 18:22 GMT
>Hi Will,
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>Enjoy your eggs ;o}

Thanks, Delboy, that was interesting reading. There is something about
the way the chickens produced my particular eggs were fed, however,
that apparently results in a higher level of omega 3 fatty acids... at
least that was the claim on the carton.

Anyway, they were good... I wound up making a omlet, with green
peppers, onion, swiss cheese, and canadian bacon. Also, I enjoyed
about 10-12 fresh cherries. Two hrs pp, my bg was about 110.

Will, T2
Delboy - 28 Jul 2007 18:34 GMT
Glad I didn't put you off your eggs, Will.

The omelette sounds great eating and it didn't spike your BG either.

We get "omega 3" eggs in the UK also. Wish I could believe the advertising
blurb. <sigh> But then I'm a sad old cynic.

My son sent me a birthday card recently, the picture showed a man holding a
part full wine glass; it said "some say the glass is half full, some say the
glass is half empty. You say the glass isn't big enough.!" <ROFL>

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>>Hi Will,
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> Will, T2
Will, T2 - 28 Jul 2007 18:45 GMT
>We get "omega 3" eggs in the UK also. Wish I could believe the advertising
>blurb. <sigh> But then I'm a sad old cynic.
>
>My son sent me a birthday card recently, the picture showed a man holding a
>part full wine glass; it said "some say the glass is half full, some say the
>glass is half empty. You say the glass isn't big enough.!" <ROFL>

That was a great joke... Thanks! Ha, ha....

About the omega 3 claims. Unfortunately, we consumers eating the eggs
have very little opportunity to really know for sure whether the
claims are actually true... You know what they say about something
that seems too good to be true....

Anyway, it was a nice breakfast, together with the fresh coffee I had
with it.

I have been hearing about all the rain over there in the UK this
summer. I hope you and all the rest over there are not too soggy. It
really sounds miserable in some places.

Will, T2
Delboy - 28 Jul 2007 22:29 GMT
Yes Will,

We are lucky in our neck of the woods, although it rained stair rods, and
some of the roads leading to our town (Chineham, near Basingstoke if you
want to google it) were blocked at the bottom of hills, our area was flood
free. Not so towns on the Rivers Thames, Severn and Avon. They have it bad
still although the waters are falling.

Would you believe our great and glorious leaders are STILL going to allow
new housing to be built on flood plains?

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>>We get "omega 3" eggs in the UK also. Wish I could believe the advertising
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> Will, T2
Terryc - 29 Jul 2007 16:13 GMT
> Hi Will,
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> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=4685
65&in_page_id=1770
 

Yawn, yep I always believe "science" as reported in any newspaper.

What you need to know is
    1; who did the research,
    2: who funded the research (unis get paid to produce results"), and
    3: has any other researcher found the same result.

Until another entirely independent researcher confirms the results, take
it all with a grain of salt.
Ricavito - 29 Jul 2007 20:36 GMT
> > Hi Will,
>
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> Until another entirely independent researcher confirms the results, take
> it all with a grain of salt.

Yeah, I've worked at a chicken "farm", and I've lived on a farm where
"free range" chicked were raised, and there is no comparison.  It may
be different in the UK where the British may be more civil and humane
to their animals.  I certainly hope so.  So-called "free range" eggs
in the US may in some cases be produced by primarily caged hens
however.  Some big farming operations apparently are able to win the
distinction of "free range" by just releasing the hens for portions of
the day into a fenced dirt pen.  I hear the hens are often so
traumatized they won't leave their enclosures.

So if eating cruelty free eggs is a concern, one might want to check
into the validity of the claim a bit before purchasing.
Will, T2 - 29 Jul 2007 20:55 GMT
>Yeah, I've worked at a chicken "farm", and I've lived on a farm where
>"free range" chicked were raised, and there is no comparison.  It may
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>So if eating cruelty free eggs is a concern, one might want to check
>into the validity of the claim a bit before purchasing.

Thanks for the wake-up call, Ricavito...

I guess it is just another instance of the advertisers manipulating
the public and the consumers...

Maybe the only "range free" chicken was the one I had as a pet, when I
was about 5 yrs old. Now, that was a very free and liberated chicken!
And a very happy and pampered chicken....

Will, T2
Ricavito - 29 Jul 2007 21:00 GMT
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 12:36:40 -0700, Ricavito
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> Will, T2

LOL, I had one of those too, an Easter chick...but he was a rooster so
no eggs.  I used to keep him in a shoebox beside my pillow a night
when he was a chick.  He grew up to terrorize the neighborhood, and my
mom gave him away ... or maybe he ended up in the stew pot, come to
think of it!

Hope you're having a fabulous day Will.  We just got home from a
weekend away and I need to unpack....
Will, T2 - 29 Jul 2007 22:04 GMT
>LOL, I had one of those too, an Easter chick...but he was a rooster so
>no eggs.  I used to keep him in a shoebox beside my pillow a night
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>Hope you're having a fabulous day Will.  We just got home from a
>weekend away and I need to unpack....

Thanks, Ricvito. Yes, it is a very fine day here in SE Virginia, on
the coast. We had a little storm a while ago, but all in all, it is a
really nice and lazy Sunday afternoon.

My chick was an Easter chick, also... We kept it for a long time, but
finally the day came, when she had to go back to the farm. Needless to
say, I was very upset!

Hope you and your family had a very nice trip. Sometimes, the best
part of a weekend away is coming back home ;-)

Will, T2
hoodyup@yahoo.com - 29 Jul 2007 21:29 GMT
A few years ago we had some chickens and the eggs were much happier
than the ones from the store.  We fed the chickens vegetable scraps
and they scratched around all day eating all the bugs and weeds on our
property.  The shells were the brown kind and they were much harder
than the kind from the store.  We loved our chickens and the eggs, but
after a couple years chickens get a little weird and start eating
their own eggs and nesting in the neighbors trees.  This is when most
people (evil farmer types) kill them and eat them.  My wife and I
tearfully called one of these people and he came and took them away to
become someone's low carb entree.  We can't have them anymore since we
now have a half Labrador half Bassett hound who will basically eat any
creature smaller than herself.  I still miss those chickens though,
very comical to watch.  Our old bassett hound never bothered to chase
them and our cats just looked at them like "Wow, look at the size of
that bird...If I could just...nah, never mind...bad idea".
Will, T2 - 29 Jul 2007 22:07 GMT
> Our old bassett hound never bothered to chase
>them and our cats just looked at them like "Wow, look at the size of
>that bird...If I could just...nah, never mind...bad idea".

Hi Andrew,

We have a wonderful Bassett, named Sassy (because of her tendency to
talk back)... She is probably the most lovable dog I have ever had.
She really is part of the family, and even sometimes takes long trips
and vacations with us.

Will, T2
Jim Chinnis - 29 Jul 2007 22:31 GMT
Ricavito <newsgroupreader@frontiernet.net> wrote in part:

>> > Hi Will,
>>
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>So if eating cruelty free eggs is a concern, one might want to check
>into the validity of the claim a bit before purchasing.

I agree. Where I live I can buy most of my eggs and meat from farmers whose
farms I can look at if I'm so inclined. The chickens, BTW, are scrawnier
than the supermarket ones (including the organic and "free range" choices)
but taste 10 times better.

As a child, I helped raise chickens. I've seen a modern high-production
chicken farm, and it is truly shocking how low we have sunk. The chickens
don't have room to turn around. They develop abnormal behaviors in close
confinement and peck one another. Antibiotics keep them alive for their
extremely shortened lives, as the modern feed and drugs now produce a
market-ready chicken in a fraction of the time it used to take.
--
Jim Chinnis   Warrenton, Virginia, USA
Will, T2 - 30 Jul 2007 00:03 GMT
>As a child, I helped raise chickens. I've seen a modern high-production
>chicken farm, and it is truly shocking how low we have sunk. The chickens
>don't have room to turn around. They develop abnormal behaviors in close
>confinement and peck one another. Antibiotics keep them alive for their
>extremely shortened lives, as the modern feed and drugs now produce a
>market-ready chicken in a fraction of the time it used to take.

I do have a sense of that, Jim... There are lots of chicken farms near
here, on the Eastern Shore of Virginia. Yes, it is somewhat
distressing, if one thinks about it.

The daughter of a friend of mine spends all her spare time rescuing
injured chickens and other farm animals and wildlife. Her name is
Constance, and she is a vegetarian. Constance is also a superb
celloist.

Will, T2
Nicky - 30 Jul 2007 13:59 GMT
>I agree. Where I live I can buy most of my eggs and meat from farmers whose
>farms I can look at if I'm so inclined. The chickens, BTW, are scrawnier
>than the supermarket ones (including the organic and "free range" choices)
>but taste 10 times better.

We've had several scandals over here, where supposedly free-range
chickens were in fact the sort with a tiny door out into a bare yard
that none of them ever wanted to visit anyway. I'm now choosing my
chickens by how much muscle they have on the legs - at least if
they've used 'em a bit, I reckon, they might have had some kind of
life. Cows and pigs are much easier - I tend to know them personally,
so to speak - but the only chickens I know are pets who get buried
with full honours when they die!

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6%  BMI 25
Jimmie D - 30 Jul 2007 15:20 GMT
>>I agree. Where I live I can buy most of my eggs and meat from farmers
>>whose
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> so to speak - but the only chickens I know are pets who get buried
> with full honours when they die!

My dad used to get farm raised chickens about 50 of them at a time and turn
them loose in a big pen for a couple of weeks. This made a load of
difference in the way they tasted, not sure if they were any better for you
or not.

Jimmie
Julie Bove - 28 Jul 2007 18:31 GMT
> Good morning folks,
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> These look like very happy, proud, tall-standing eggs....

That's the kind I buy for my husband.  I'm allergic.  To the eggs.  Not my
husband.  Although...  Heh!  Now there's a thought!  :)
Will, T2 - 28 Jul 2007 19:14 GMT
>> Good morning folks,
>>
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>That's the kind I buy for my husband.  I'm allergic.  To the eggs.  Not my
>husband.  Although...  Heh!  Now there's a thought!  :)

Hi Julie,

I really do feel for you... being allergic to some foods must really
be frustrating at times, especially considering you also have to be
careful from the standpoint of managing the diabetes.

Have you looked into desensitization treatments? They really can work.

I nearly died one time of an allergic reaction to some wasp stings,
but after more than two years of treatments, my allergy was
realatively tamed, so that it is not likelly to be life-threatening in
the event of another sting.... I still try to be careful and avoid
being stung.

Will, T2
Julie Bove - 28 Jul 2007 20:00 GMT
> Hi Julie,
>
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> Have you looked into desensitization treatments? They really can work.

I don't think they have such a thing for foods.  I did try them for
inhalants but they did not work for me.  Each time I got the shot, my
allergies went out of control.  By the time they finally settled back down
again, I'd have to get another shot.  I was to the point where my shots were
only weekly but they were still a pain.  I'd have to sit there for an hour
each time to make sure I didn't react to it and need a shot of adrenalin.  I
was told once I ran out of the serum, I'd have to drive into Seattle and
pick some more up.  And I'd need the maintenence shots for about 20 years.
I got very discouraged and stopped.

> I nearly died one time of an allergic reaction to some wasp stings,
> but after more than two years of treatments, my allergy was
> realatively tamed, so that it is not likelly to be life-threatening in
> the event of another sting.... I still try to be careful and avoid
> being stung.

I was nearly killed by a bee sting.  Oddly, last summer I was stung on the
arm while picking pears and foolishly wearing a huge muu muu with a hibiscus
print.  The bee flew in the large sleeve and I think got stuck in there.

I immediately raced into the house, informed my husband I'd most likely need
to go to the hospital ASAP and slapped some black drawing salve on there
that I'd gotten from the health food store days before to help with a bite
that Angela had.  The salve worked and seemed to pull all the poison right
out.  There was a small amount of pinkish swelling and you could see where
the stinger had gone in, but it didn't get any worse than that.

My man concern now is the food allergies because I already have enough other
issues with my stomach.  I don't need to add that.  Just last night I had an
incident in a restaurant.  They recently changed their menu.  I ordered the
hummus and olives with a swap of cucumbers for the pita bread.  They get the
pita from a bakery and said they didn't know what was in it.  I won't eat
something if I suspect it might have eggs or dairy in it and I think some
pita might.  The old dish used to come with Kalamata olives but the new menu
said "green stuffed".  I assumed they were stuffed with pimentos.  But no!
Cheese!

Eating out can be really tough.  Daughter had a steak and a plain baked
potato.  But I had to have the steak done special.  They normally put on
butter and a steak seasoning.  Once again, they do not know what is in the
seasoning so she can't have it.  Some seasonings contain gluten.  And she
too is allergic to dairy.

My mom had a turkey sandwich that looked wonderful but I don't dare.  Turkey
can sometimes have milk in it.  I don't know why they would do that but some
does.  Perhaps to keep it moist?  And sometimes it is basted with butter.
And then there's the issue of the bread.  Again, I don't know what's in it.
Darned hard to find bread with no egg or dairy.
Loretta Eisenberg - 28 Jul 2007 19:39 GMT
I did the same thing Will
Will, T2 - 28 Jul 2007 22:21 GMT
>I did the same thing Will

How were your happy eggs, Loretta?

Mine were exquisite, and a very happy breakfast experience :-)  It was
really a psychic plus knowing that they came from happy chickens....
;-)

Will, T2
Loretta Eisenberg - 28 Jul 2007 22:56 GMT
I didnt eat them yet

Loretta
Måck©® - 01 Aug 2007 03:48 GMT
>Good morning folks,
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>Will, T2

Dude, 4 minutes and a little salt, that's all that matters.  Enjoy!
 
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