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Chakolate - 23 Jun 2007 05:42 GMT
I misordered sweet whey instead of protein powder, and ended up with a
five pound bag of the stuff.  From what I can tell, sweet whey is just a
half-step short of milk sugar.  

Even if I wanted to fall off the low-carb bandwagon, I'm diabetic and
can't.  

My cats love the stuff, I found out sort of by accident, but I'm not
going to give them five pounds of it.  

So my question is, what do I do with it?  Does it have any use for a
diabetic low-carber?  Or should I just offer it on freecycle and write it
off as a loss?

Chak

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johnniemccoy@ - 23 Jun 2007 06:12 GMT
>I misordered sweet whey instead of protein powder, and ended up with a
> five pound bag of the stuff.  From what I can tell, sweet whey is just a
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>
> Chak

Take it to a Comedy Club. Walk up to the stage with it and ask the comedian,
"What should I do with this 5lb bag of Whey?"

John
johnniemccoy@ - 23 Jun 2007 06:18 GMT
>>I misordered sweet whey instead of protein powder, and ended up with a
>> five pound bag of the stuff.  From what I can tell, sweet whey is just a
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>
> John

Ok.... just kidding.... being my usual, obnoxious self. After all the posts
come in you'll probably have so many ways to use it you'll be glad you
ordered it....lol

John
Nicky - 23 Jun 2007 10:41 GMT
>I misordered sweet whey instead of protein powder, and ended up with a
>five pound bag of the stuff.  From what I can tell, sweet whey is just a
>half-step short of milk sugar.  

Is it sweetened, Chak? I buy whey to bake with, and use it just like
protein powder in smoothies, etc - but the stuff I get is unsweetened
and unflavoured. It's very low in carbs.

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6%  BMI 25
Chakolate - 24 Jun 2007 05:27 GMT
> Is it sweetened, Chak? I buy whey to bake with, and use it just like
> protein powder in smoothies, etc - but the stuff I get is unsweetened
> and unflavoured. It's very low in carbs.

Yeah, that's what I thought I was ordering.  One is called sweet whey,
the other is acid whey.  This stuff has seven grams of sugar per serving
(not added, just naturally occurring in the whey) and a serving is only 4
tsps.

Chak

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bj - 23 Jun 2007 17:07 GMT
>I misordered sweet whey instead of protein powder, and ended up with a
> five pound bag of the stuff.  From what I can tell, sweet whey is just a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> My cats love the stuff, I found out sort of by accident, but I'm not
> going to give them five pounds of it.

Animal shelter donation?
bj
W. Baker - 23 Jun 2007 20:42 GMT
: >I misordered sweet whey instead of protein powder, and ended up with a
: > five pound bag of the stuff.  From what I can tell, sweet whey is just a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
: > My cats love the stuff, I found out sort of by accident, but I'm not
: > going to give them five pounds of it.

: Animal shelter donation?
: bj

If you know of a  soup kitchen where someone who knows how to cook is
working, you might try donating there, but you do need someone food savvy
or they won't know what to do with it.  

If you were in NYC I could give you a name, but I know no one in other
parts fo ther country.

Wendy
Alan S - 24 Jun 2007 01:18 GMT
>: >I misordered sweet whey instead of protein powder, and ended up with a
>: > five pound bag of the stuff.  From what I can tell, sweet whey is just a
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>
>Wendy

I've just made a batch of yoghurt and strained some of it,
resulting in about a litre of liquid whey. I usually just
throw it out - does anyone have some useful cooking
suggestions for it?


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Julie Bove - 24 Jun 2007 02:02 GMT
> I've just made a batch of yoghurt and strained some of it,
> resulting in about a litre of liquid whey. I usually just
> throw it out - does anyone have some useful cooking
> suggestions for it?

http://fiascofarm.com/dairy/ricotta.html
Alan S - 24 Jun 2007 03:25 GMT
>> I've just made a batch of yoghurt and strained some of it,
>> resulting in about a litre of liquid whey. I usually just
>> throw it out - does anyone have some useful cooking
>> suggestions for it?
>
>http://fiascofarm.com/dairy/ricotta.html

Thank you

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Nicky - 24 Jun 2007 12:56 GMT
>I've just made a batch of yoghurt and strained some of it,
>resulting in about a litre of liquid whey. I usually just
>throw it out - does anyone have some useful cooking
>suggestions for it?

I pickle stuff in it sometimes - it's very successful, I haven't had a
bad batch yet, and it's very tasty. I'm just finishing off the last of
last autumn's courgettes.

Here's a sauerkraut recipe:

German Sauerkraut Recipe
from Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon

1 medium organic cabbage, cored and shredded
1 tablespoon caraway seeds
1 tablespoon sea salt
4 tablespoons whey (place some high quality plain whole milk yogurt
with live cultures [Seven Stars, for example] in a strainer lined with
cheese cloth or a dish towel. The yellowish liquid that strains out is
the whey).

Place cabbage in a big bowl. Add sea salt, caraway, and whey. Pound
with a wooden pounder or meat hammer for about 10 minutes until juices
are released and cabbage looks limp. Place in a glass quart-canning
jar, and press down firmly until juices cover the top of the cabbage.
The cabbage should be at least one inch below the top of the jar, as
it will expand. Cover tightly and keep on the counter at room
temperature for at least 3 days before transferring to the
refrigerator. It may be eaten immediately, but improves with age.

Younger Daughter won a local science fair with a version of this, made
with carrots and ginger. It's a method I feel I ought to use more
often...

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6%  BMI 25
Alan S - 24 Jun 2007 15:15 GMT
>>I've just made a batch of yoghurt and strained some of it,
>>resulting in about a litre of liquid whey. I usually just
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>D&E, 100ug thyroxine
>Last A1c 5.6%  BMI 25

Thanks. I'll have to wait for the next lot; I tried heating
and straining it for the "ricotta" effect - and nothing
happened apart from it changing odour and going cloudy:-)

I'll try again in a week or so when I make the next batch.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Nicky - 24 Jun 2007 16:08 GMT
>Thanks. I'll have to wait for the next lot; I tried heating
>and straining it for the "ricotta" effect - and nothing
>happened apart from it changing odour and going cloudy:-)

What, you were trying stuff with the whey? - let me know if you
succeed: apart from pickling - and drinking it to gross my kids out :D
- I haven't found any use for it.

Nicky.
Chakolate - 24 Jun 2007 19:13 GMT
> I've just made a batch of yoghurt and strained some of it,
> resulting in about a litre of liquid whey. I usually just
> throw it out - does anyone have some useful cooking
> suggestions for it?

Why do you strain it, IYDMMA?  Is it all the time, or just when you need
a thicker yogurt?  I ask because there's both protein and B vitamins in
whey, and it seems a shame to remove that from the yogurt.

Chak

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J J Levin - 24 Jun 2007 19:30 GMT
>> I've just made a batch of yoghurt and strained some of it,
>> resulting in about a litre of liquid whey. I usually just
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>
> Chak

My wife takes a quart of plain lo-fat or non-fat yogurt, adds something to
it (tuna fish, or cut up canned anchovies, or thinly chopped up cucumbers,
or chopped up scallions, or just a bit of garlic) and then strains it
through a coffee filter. Within 12 hours you have the most delicious lo-fat
cheese spread.

Had some of it for breakfast yesterday, and 2 rather large scoops of it on
Wasa crackers made my bg go from 103 to 163. This morning I had it on the
same Wasa crackers, but not scoops, just a teaspoon   spread on each
cracker, (like you do with cream or cottage cheese) and the bg rise was very
modest (from 103 to 143) which according to my endo is very acceptable.

Jay

PS --  I know some of you don't like a bg rise of 40 at breakfast. But I am
following my endo's recommendation, which is to watch the 2 hour mark. . An
hour later -- 2 hours after breakfast -- the bg was back at 99.
Alan S - 25 Jun 2007 02:04 GMT
>>> I've just made a batch of yoghurt and strained some of it,
>>> resulting in about a litre of liquid whey. I usually just
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>following my endo's recommendation, which is to watch the 2 hour mark. . An
>hour later -- 2 hours after breakfast -- the bg was back at 99.

Good idea - but watch the "lo-fat or non-fat"; they tend to
be higher carb that natural yoghurt. I mix full cream milk
powder with skim milk powder to make mine; that
theoretically results in 2% fat milk that becomes the
yoghurt. However, the changes in chemistry that occur with
the live acidophilus mean that I'm not sure of the
fat/carb/protein breakdown of the resulting product.

Except that it doesn't spike me when consumed in moderation.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Alan S - 25 Jun 2007 02:01 GMT
>> I've just made a batch of yoghurt and strained some of it,
>> resulting in about a litre of liquid whey. I usually just
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>
>Chak

For texture and flavour. I strain about half of it through
cloth for a few hours until it is almost a soft cheese, then
add it back to the remainder and stir it thorough. The
result is like a thick cream; similar to the consistency of
commercial Greek yoghurt. Removal of some of the whey also
seems to remove some bitterness and I often need no
sweetener or only a small amount.

If I don't strain it, the yoghurt tends to be too liquid for
my taste.

However, I agree that the whey may also be useful, which is
why I'm trying to find uses for it.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Will, T2 - 25 Jun 2007 02:08 GMT
> I've just made a batch of yoghurt and strained some of it,
>>> resulting in about a litre of liquid whey. I usually just
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>However, I agree that the whey may also be useful, which is
>why I'm trying to find uses for it.

This whole thread reminds me of little Miss Muffet, sitting on her
tuffet, eating her curds and whey.....  Now, what I want to know, what
do you guys know about spiders?

Just joshin ;-)

Will, T2
Chakolate - 25 Jun 2007 06:30 GMT
> However, I agree that the whey may also be useful, which is
> why I'm trying to find uses for it.

Use it as a base for soup or stew?

Chak

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Nicky - 25 Jun 2007 13:16 GMT
>However, I agree that the whey may also be useful, which is
>why I'm trying to find uses for it.

Oddly, I spotted a use in a magazine article on traditional European
cures last night - apparently the Greeks use it as a fungicide!

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6%  BMI 25
Alan S - 25 Jun 2007 14:41 GMT
>>However, I agree that the whey may also be useful, which is
>>why I'm trying to find uses for it.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>D&E, 100ug thyroxine
>Last A1c 5.6%  BMI 25

I should dip my toes in it if I get problems? Are you
reading this, Hi_Therre?


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Frank T2 - 29 Jun 2007 05:11 GMT
Ever thought of peeing on it ?  Or, as they say (I hate myself for this)

"Go on your own sweet whey"

"Chakolate" <chakolateDeathToSpammers@gmail.com> a écrit ...
>I misordered sweet whey instead of protein powder, and ended up with a
> five pound bag of the stuff.  From what I can tell, sweet whey is just a
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Chak
W. Baker - 29 Jun 2007 15:31 GMT
: Ever thought of peeing on it ?  Or, as they say (I hate myself for this)

: "Go on your own sweet whey"

You and Donna get the prizes of puns!

Wendy
Frank T2 - 30 Jun 2007 21:53 GMT
He, he .. TY, but I always defer to a lady ..

"W. Baker" <wbaker@panix.com> a écrit ...

> : Ever thought of peeing on it ?  Or, as they say (I hate myself for this)
>
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>
> Wendy
 
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