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Hi, I am new here and am wondering what the difference is between the REPLY and REPLY to AUTHOR is? I have asked a couple of questions and received some good feedback. Maybe I should have introduced myself. I was diagnosed as type II after having been pre-diabetic for several years and not being as diligent as I should have been. I am not sure what my doctor used to put me into the type II category as I don't believe I have had a FBS above 7.0 (6.9 a couple of times though) and have never had a OGTT test. My A1C has been as high as 6.7. With the numbers I have been getting on my monitor I am not arguing with him. I can spike after a meat with 30g of carbs to 9 or 10 and more would put me well over the 11 standard. Also until recently my FBS was high 6 and low 7 on my monitor. I am trying really hard to get this under control and have better numbers by my Aug 3rd appointment with my GP. I really want to hold off on meds as long as I can. I have increased exercise to 60 mins+ per day and am eating 30 or less per meal (if I am counting correctly). This seems to be a very good group and I have enjoyed reading the many threads and have learned a lot here. Thanks everyone, Sally Reply to newsgroup, posts to the newsgroup. Reply to author, replies to the individual poster of the post in email. Welcome to the the group, and I'll look forward to your posts. Cheri sallyvel wrote in message <1182544146.045943.224760@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com>... >Hi, I am new here and am wondering what the difference is between the >REPLY and REPLY to AUTHOR is? [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >This seems to be a very good group and I have enjoyed reading the many >threads and have learned a lot here. Thanks everyone, Sally Right..and alot of people are like me and filter their email so that they would never see a reply sent to thier email and not to the group KROM > Reply to newsgroup, posts to the newsgroup. Reply to author, replies > to the individual poster of the post in email. Welcome to the the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >>Hi, I am new here and am wondering what the difference is between the >>REPLY and REPLY to AUTHOR is? Yes, it is a courteous to not email privately unless you've asked permission, or been asked to do so. Anyone is welcome to email me at any time. I do have mailwasher to intercept someone I don't want to hear from, but so far in many years, there's never been anybody I didn't want to hear from, except spammers. :-) Cheri krom wrote in message ... >Right..and alot of people are like me and filter their email so that they >would never see a reply sent to thier email and not to the group P.S. I forgot to add: :the spam will never even reach my filter, much less my mail box because my mailbox is full. > P.S. > > I forgot to add: :the spam will never even reach my filter, much less my > mail box because my mailbox is full. Thats nice. x-no-rchive: yes > Hi, I am new here and am wondering what the difference is between the > REPLY and REPLY to AUTHOR is? I don't know how your newsreader works, but you need to figure out how the quoting works so we can all see what and whom you're replying to. Just post under a snippet of what you're responding to so we can all follow. We don't all get the posts in the same order, same time. > I have asked a couple of questions and received some good feedback. > Maybe I should have introduced myself. I was diagnosed as type II [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > This seems to be a very good group and I have enjoyed reading the many > threads and have learned a lot here. Thanks everyone, Sally Sally, I've been type 2 DM for many years, and I take no meds, even though I have hypercortisolemia jacking up my bg. If I can avoid them, so can you. Use your meter, trust your instincts and don't let anyone force you to eat so many carbs that you require meds to tolerate them. And keep up your exercise, you're doing GREAT. Susan >Hi, I am new here and am wondering what the difference is between the >REPLY and REPLY to AUTHOR is? Likely between posting to the newsgroup, and emailing an individual. Some people hide email addresses in case of spammers. >I am not sure what my doctor used to >put me into the type II category as I don't believe I have had a FBS >above 7.0 (6.9 a couple of times though) and have never had a OGTT >test. My A1C has been as high as 6.7. Any of the above : ) >I am trying really hard to get this under control and have better >numbers by my Aug 3rd appointment with my GP. I really want to hold >off on meds as long as I can. I have increased exercise to 60 mins+ >per day and am eating 30 or less per meal (if I am counting >correctly). Nice exercise amounts - good for you! Have you discovered for yourself that you can drive down a spike with exercise? I tend to have a walk after supper... No shame to using meds if you need them. I found metformin invaluable for taming my liver - once I'd gotten rid of frequent liver dumps, I came off it successfully, so it's not necessarily a one-way street. Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 Howdy do and welcome! KROM > Hi, I am new here and am wondering what the difference is between the > REPLY and REPLY to AUTHOR is? [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > This seems to be a very good group and I have enjoyed reading the many > threads and have learned a lot here. Thanks everyone, Sally meat with 30g of carbs to 9 or 10 and more would put me well over the [snip] > This seems to be a very good group and I have enjoyed reading the many > threads and have learned a lot here. Thanks everyone, Sally Welcome to the group no one wants to join. I use the email address that I'm posting from exclusively for surfing and posting in order to avoid any possible spam and/or unwanted email. >I use the email address that I'm posting from exclusively for surfing >and posting in order to avoid any possible spam and/or unwanted email. Hi Nixi, I always use an honest email... Anyone in the world is welcome to contact me there. Certainly everyone here. Yes, I do have filters and spam blockers, etc. Nevertheless, I have had no problems, and the bad people get trashed as soon as they send... As for anyone from asd who I recognize, and who seem to be sincere, I always respond... constructively and helpfully, I hope. There is no need to sneak around if you have a pure heart and wholesome intent. Will, T2 > >I use the email address that I'm posting from exclusively for surfing > >and posting in order to avoid any possible spam and/or unwanted email. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Will, T2 Hi Will You are perfectly right,if you could notice one thing I have created a profile and I have uploaded even my latest picture,when we do something right why bother about identities.Openess is what is expected,instead of hiding behind a veil. >Hi Will >You are perfectly right,if you could notice one thing I have created a >profile and I have uploaded even my latest picture,when we do >something right why bother about identities.Openess is what is >expected,instead of hiding behind a veil. Thanks Churie, As Quentin said to me one time, in a different context, "you get it." I have come to feel that if we can only be open and honest with each other, we can make a much greater difference than if we are sneaking and sliding around... hiding here and there. There really is no need for that, anyway. Speaking for myself only, I have never made any secret of who I am, or where I can be found... I post publicly, and I try to be a decent person. I would hope that everyone else here could strive for that ideal, also. Will, T2 Will and Churie wrote: <snip> OMG, Will and Churie, I'm in disbelief, aghast and very hurt over your reaction to the fact that I am using a blocked email address, which, in your eyes, makes me appear to be someone who is not up to your ethical standards. Before you pounce on a person, it would be nice if you would realize that there must be a good reason for their action. I would have indeed expected more understanding from you.than you showed Like you, I like openness and sincerity. I can assure you that I'm also with you on your absolute dislike for sneakiness, unwholesome intent and other ignoble qualities which I - fortunately - do NOT possess even though it may appear to you that way. But I have very valid reasons for using a blocked email address which I don't want to discuss and which I don't feel I should have to justify to anyone. If I were insincere or "not open", I would not even have posted what I did post about my address. I fully counted on more understanding and trust on your part without which ANY relationship in life is not worthwhile. I am extremely disappointed, to say the very least. I completely misjudged you. And what's more ---- I DO abhor people with a "HOLIER THAN THOU" attitude!!!! I shall ignore any potential replies to this post of mine - just let it rest. I'm not a friend of verbal "fencing". >I'm in disbelief, aghast and very hurt over your reaction to the fact >that I am using a blocked email address, which, in your eyes, makes me [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >"not open", I would not even have posted what I did post about my >address. Sorry, Nixi I really meant no offense... I was just saying what I do that works for me. We all have our own reasons for how we choose to post. Judging from your posts, I think you must be a really wonderful person, and in your case, I am sure it is not a matter of ethics. You really are very sweet. In my case, I am somewhat of a public person, anyway,often in the newspapers and on TV, etc. It would make no sense for me to hide who I really am..... The real me is out there, so to speak, every day. Will, T2 >In my case, I am somewhat of a public person, anyway,often in the >newspapers and on TV, etc. It would make no sense for me to hide who I >really am..... The real me is out there, so to speak, every day. To echo what Donna said above, I have made many friends over the last couple of years from all over the world via this group and private email exchanges... I have had really good experiences corresponding privately with people I have first encountered here on asd. Yes, there is a little spam, but not that much, really. And what spam there is, I probably would get anyway.... I have spam filters that take out most of it, and if anyone were to send me a nasty email for some wierd purpose, I would know what to do. Will, T2 >> In my case, I am somewhat of a public person, anyway,often in the >> newspapers and on TV, etc. It would make no sense for me to hide who I [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Will, T2 The big risk Will is not spam, but identity theft. If you allow enough information about you to be collected you allow a profile to be built that can aid those who make a career out of this sort of crime. Donna for instance seems to feel that obfuscating her details isn't necessary. In thirty seconds I got this about Donna: http://tinyurl.com/yovgdl Now if I then start reading through her history of posts, say with keyword searches like "my birthday" "my job" "my bank" "call me" "husband" "snail mail", etc., etc, I can rapidly build a profile that is halfway to an identity theft. I can also discover who her friends are and maybe trick more information about her out of them. I know that she has an interest in certain TV and video shows. If I was to email her using the address and details of one of her known friends, mentioning a fantastic offer for a DVD that I knew that she was interested in, she might not regard it as spam, as I have a lot of detail about her and her likes. If she was to fall for it and use her credit card, I can use those details not just to milk her card, but open new bank accounts in her name. Donna, I am not suggesting that you would fall for it, but this is just ONE risk of allowing yourself to be profiled. Not a good idea in my opinion, but as always others are entitled to their own opinions. This applies to ANYONE who posts over a long period of time and in multiple newsgroups with the same nick and a genuine email address. In my case, although I am involved with more than thirty newsgroups (low boredom threshold) I have nothing tying one to the other, I cannot easily be profiled. No one (except Alan) knows who Eskimo Joe is. Anything they garner from my posts is useless. It is worth considering. Identity theft is a very real issue. Check the FBI website. Regards Eskimo Joe In alt.support.diabetes on Mon, 25 Jun 2007 00:21:08 +1000 in Msg.# <11ik5o.pf2.17.1@news.alt.net>, "Help! My igloo's on FIRE!" <p@nic.net> wrote: > The big risk Will is not spam, but identity theft. If you allow enough > information about you to be collected you allow a profile to be built that > can aid those who make a career out of this sort of crime. > > Donna for instance seems to feel that obfuscating her details isn't necessary. Well, actually, that's not what I said. I listed some things that I think are positive about being reachable, at least through email, and some valuable things that have come out of my being reachable, etc. And, I talked about what else people should do if they are munging their address on Usenet if their purpose is to avoid spam. > Now if I then start reading through her history of posts, say with keyword > searches like "my birthday" "my job" "my bank" "call me" "husband" "snail > mail", etc., etc, I can rapidly build a profile that is halfway to an > identity theft. I can also discover who her friends are and maybe trick > more information about her out of them. I know that she has an interest in > certain TV and video shows. ... You'd also find a body of information about certain TV shows & entertainment genres that is worthy of archive. <G> Basically, information about all of us is all over the place. I know of twice in the past two years when certain entities, at the corporate level, companies, etc. have had information potentially compromised where I might have been one of the persons with info that was possibly received by people who had no right to it. And, unfortunately, that isn't a rare event. > Donna, I am not suggesting that you would fall for it, but this is just ONE > risk of allowing yourself to be profiled. Not a good idea in my opinion, > but as always others are entitled to their own opinions. Never have a problem agreeing to disagree about what choices to make.  SignatureDonnaB 06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 hbA1C 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg ..................09-11-06 hbA1C 5.0 ..................12-20-06 hbA1C 5.2 ..................05-18-07 hbA1C 5.3 "The seats of power inevitably try to harness any new knowledge to their own desires. But knowledge can have no fixed desires neither in the past nor in the future." - Dimitri Harkonnen, Lessons for My Sons, DUNE: HOUSE HARKONNEN, Brian Herbert & Kevin G. Anderson, 2000. >The big risk Will is not spam, but identity theft. If you allow enough >information about you to be collected you allow a profile to be built that >can aid those who make a career out of this sort of crime. > >Donna for instance seems to feel that obfuscating her details isn't necessary. Yes, Joe, you make a good point, and it is something I understand. Indeed, I was a prosecutor for a number of years, and I have dealt with that kind of problem in the courtroom. And, someone pawed through my trash one time, stole some of my info, and made purchases in my name.... using one of my credit cards. Lucky for me, they got caught. For me, all my details are out there, anyway... I am profiled in Martindale-Hubbel,and elsewhere, and I have a very well publicised professional identity. I have been in the papers and on TV more times than I can recall, or of which I have even been aware. I give speeches and make public presentations routinely.... Then, there are those musical performances. Of course, for all those reasons, in my case, it would be more difficult for someone to pretend to be me and get away with it.... because the real me is too well known. I certainly meant no criticism of Nixi or anyone else who uses a blocked or bogus email. I realize that there are valid reasons for doing that. It is just that I have found real benefit in using a real email to post here on asd....not necessarily my only, or main email, but one which I check daily nonetheless. Will, T2 >I certainly meant no criticism of Nixi or anyone else who uses a >blocked or bogus email. I realize that there are valid reasons for [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Will, T2 One thing I would add, however, woulld be the observation that there are some people on usenet, who hide behind bogus email addresses, bogus persona, etc., for the sole purpose of stirring up trouble and unpleasantness, with no accountability.... We see it here from time to time, rather like a hit and run tactic. Not everyone who uses a fake email falls into that category, by any means, though. Will, T2 >> The big risk Will is not spam, but identity theft. If you allow enough >> information about you to be collected you allow a profile to be built that [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Will, T2 I also have a genuine identity on the web, both a blog and an association with a commercial website that uses my real details, but in both cases, there is little that is of use to a potential criminal other than some deliberately misleading data, trivial but designed to set a flag. It is called "salting" of data. My birthdate and some other minor details are deliberately incorrect. Just call me paranoid. :) For email I use a whitelist and check the filters once every week or two before deleting their contents. Regards Eskimo Joe (David) I wouldn't be too sure of that. :-) Cheri Help! My igloo's on FIRE! wrote in message <11ik5o.pf2.17.1@news.alt.net>... >be profiled. No one (except Alan) knows who Eskimo Joe is. > I wouldn't be too sure of that. :-) Yeah, this is the second time I've called him a flatulent gasbag. I'm pretty sure he's the only one I've used the term for. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > >> I wouldn't be too sure of that. :-) > > Yeah, this is the second time I've called him a flatulent gasbag. It must have been all that cabbage soup. You'd have thought those particular effects would have worn off by now. :) > I'm pretty sure he's the only one I've used the term for. I feel so special. Suzy has her own pet name for me. ;) > Susan Eskimo Joe - (David) > I wouldn't be too sure of that. :-) > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > <11ik5o.pf2.17.1@news.alt.net>... >> be profiled. No one (except Alan) knows who Eskimo Joe is. Well, my wife and daughters are pretty good guessers, they might work it out when I sit down to dinner, the dog the cat also, but not many on usenet. ;) Eskimo Joe - (David) You said it in a nutshell, Eskimo Joe. No matter whether one is a sparkling public persona or a little obscure nincompoop ~ this applies not only to someone who is constantly in the limelight but also to the man in the street. Whoever hasn't realized that as yet had better wise up pronto. Nixi On Mon, Jun 25, 2007, 12:21am (PDT+17) p@nic.net (Help! My igloo's on FIRE!) wrote: <snip> <<The big risk Will is not spam, but identity theft. If you allow enough information about you to be collected you allow a profile to be built that can aid those who make a career out of this sort of crime.>> <snp> >You said it in a nutshell, Eskimo Joe. No matter whether one is a >sparkling public persona or a little obscure nincompoop ~ this applies [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > ><snp> I really do understand what you guys are saying, but I don't know how else to deal with it... Sometimes, I am all over TV, even in the National and Worldwide news .... the yellow pages, the Internet Yellow pages, all the major newspapers across the nation. Heck, I have even been on infomercials and have done some television advertising at great cost, and I make sure to put my email address out there.... Sometimes, there have been news articles mentioning my name, with many details, as many as 20-30 times a year... Indeed, in one way, in my business, the more people who know about me the better. The way I have things set up, I am very easy to google, and I would not have it any other way... Don't look at it now... we are revising the website, and the old fat me is still up there;-) Also, I *want* people to know my email address, in case they need a lawyer.... So, that is why I adopted the strategy of using multiple emails that are all "real", and setting them up as "zones of security" so to speak. Hardly anyone has the really, really sensitive email addresses.... There are even a couple of emails that my employees can access as part of a mechanism for screening incoming communications. I hope I have explained myself a little better. Will, T2 >>You said it in a nutshell, Eskimo Joe. No matter whether one is a >>sparkling public persona or a little obscure nincompoop ~ this applies [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> >><snp> > I really do understand what you guys are saying, but I don't know how > else to deal with it... Sometimes, I am all over TV, even in the > National and Worldwide news .... the yellow pages, the Internet Yellow > pages, all the major newspapers across the nation. Heck, I have even > been on infomercials and have done some television advertising at > great cost, and I make sure to put my email address out there.... It's part of my job as a university academic in IT to have my professional and personal details easily accessible on-line, and they have been for as long as the internet has existed. I'm sure I would have heard at least some staff-room gossip, if not some warnings and instructions from the computer support people, if identity theft were a problem for us fully on-line academics. I've heard nothing. Yes I do get tons of spam, but it doesn't bother me a lot because I have spam filters. I estimate that I have halved my incidence of spam by posting to newsgroups under a dummy address, but with my email address easily discoverable by a human of average intelligence from my signature details :-) SignatureChris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/] Chris Malcolm <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in news:5ea065F378fb0U1 @mid.individual.net: > It's part of my job as a university academic in IT to have my > professional and personal details easily accessible on-line, and they > have been for as long as the internet has existed. I'm sure I would > have heard at least some staff-room gossip, if not some warnings and > instructions from the computer support people, if identity theft were > a problem for us fully on-line academics. Ah, but that might be because university professors are so poorly paid identity thieves can't be bothered. ;-) Chak SignatureIt is a paradoxical but profoundly true and important principle of life that the most likely way to reach a goal is to be aiming not at that goal itself but at some more ambitious goal beyond it. --Arnold Toynbee > The big risk Will is not spam, but identity theft. The fact that no one has ever tried to steal my identity is making me doubt my own value. John I met my wife in a science fiction chat room and have been married near 10 years now. However the friendship developed very slow and neither of us were lookign for anything. We knew of each other for three years prior to ever talking in private messages and then it was another year before we ever met. So sure good thing can happen but i owe nobody any info about me unless i choose to give it if that bothers people they can easily ignore or killfile me. If over time i meet friends here then they will learn my name etc but to give personal info to strangers online is foolish IMO...and unnecessary. But whatever float the perverbial boat. People can do whatever they wish and i respect that as long as i get the same curteousy. KROM >>In my case, I am somewhat of a public person, anyway,often in the >>newspapers and on TV, etc. It would make no sense for me to hide who I [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Will, T2 >I met my wife in a science fiction chat room and have been married near 10 >years now. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >KROM I agree with "Eskimo Joe" on the need for a level of security. On the other hand, I have deliberately made it a point to meet people from this list - if, of course, they also wish to meet me. In a way, that may reassure some other readers that among the trolls and weirdos and cyber-identities there are some real people posting here. So, by various cautious means we have identified each other and arranged contact. No axe-murderers. I've never met a person from the net I didn't like. I have met a couple who were a little odd though; they may have thought the same about me:-) I don't think any of those people would object to me noting, in a future post, that we've met; the meetings have been mentioned here. However, I'll delay listing them in case someone would prefer me not to, to allow time for them to email me at loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com if they object. There are over a dozen in Oz, NZ, UK and USA. Of the group I've met, "Eskimo Joe" demonstrated the truth of his own statements - he identified me from information I put on the web and I received an unexpected phone call; we met after that and he's a nice guy, but I learned a lesson from the incident and changed some details on the web. I know that others, such as Guy, Diana, Reisa and others in the US have met each other as well. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/ latest: Up to Kuranda by train http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/ latest: Slovenia http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/ latest: Jennifer's Story In alt.support.diabetes on Sun, 24 Jun 2007 12:22:43 -0500 in Msg.# > I met my wife in a science fiction chat room and have been married near 10 > years now. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > People can do whatever they wish and i respect that as long as i get the > same curteousy. Hmm, odd that I didn't think to mention that connection - for me. I also met my mate online. LOL In our case it was on a private loosely monitored listserv about a particular soap opera. I already was the host of a chat room on the same topic. It's a very interesting way to get to know someone - in writing, text, words, etc. only at first. SignatureDonnaB 06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 hbA1C 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg ..................09-11-06 hbA1C 5.0 ..................12-20-06 hbA1C 5.2 ..................05-18-07 hbA1C 5.3 "... the Daytime Emmys will always be the goofiest show on earth." - Michael Logan, SPW, 06-19-2007 Yes i enjoyed her mind and then later...well i DID marry her!..lol KROM > In alt.support.diabetes on Sun, 24 Jun 2007 12:22:43 -0500 in Msg.# > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > someone - > in writing, text, words, etc. only at first. I completely appreciate and respect your stance on this, Will. We are just dealing with our own dffferent circumstances here. Incidentally, I'm glad that you are feeling better and hope your blitzkrieg against that nasty, persistenrt bug.will soon end in victory. Nixi <snip> <<In my case, I am somewhat of a public person, anyway,often in the newspapers and on TV, etc. It would make no sense for me to hide who I really am..... The real me is out there, so to speak, every day.>> >I completely appreciate and respect your stance on this, Will. We are >just dealing with our own dffferent circumstances here. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Nixi Thanks, Nixi... It is coming along. I felt awful this morning, so no performances for me today.... The old pipes just would not work. Things are better this afternoon, and I took another of those horrible pills. As you may have noticed, I have been virtually camped out on the computer for the last two days, as I have not really felt up to much else... Hope all is well with you this evening. Will, T2 "A computer is like an Old Testament god, with a lot of rules and no mercy." - Joseph Campbell "A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human history-with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila." - Mitch Ratcliffe, Technology Review, April 1992 "A computer terminal is not some clunky old television with a typewriter in front of it. 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You know the question, just as I did." - Trinity "What is the Matrix?" - Neo "The answer is out there, Neo, and it's looking for you, and it will find you if you want it to." - Trinity THE MATRIX [1999] "If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who won't shut up." - Dorothy Gambrell "Interactivity has the virtue of democracy, conferring upon everyone with access to a computer the right & opportunity to be heard, but it's also saddled with democracy's vice - a tendency to assume that everyone who has a right to be heard has something to say that's worth hearing." - Wendy Kaminer, _Sleeping with Extra-Terrestrials_. "It would appear that we have reached the limits of what it is possible to achieve with computer technology, although one should be careful with such statements, as they tend to sound pretty silly in five years." - John von Neumann (1949) "Man is still the most extraordinary computer of all." - John F. Kennedy "My favorite thing about the Internet is that you get to go into the private world of real creeps without having to smell them." - Penn Jillette "Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest." - Isaac Asimov, 1920-1992 "So we went to Atari & said, 'Hey, we've got this amazing thing, even built with some of your parts & what do you think about funding us? Or we'll give it to you. We just want to do it. Pay our salary, we'll come work for you.' And they said, 'No.' So then we went to Hewlett-Packard & they said, 'Hey, we don't need you. You haven't got through college yet.'" - Apple Computer Inc. founder Steve Jobs on attempts to get Atari & H-P interested in his & Steve Wozniak's personal computer. "Surfing on the Internet is like sex; everyone boasts about doing more than they actually do. But in the case of the Internet, it's a lot more." - Tom Fasulo "The computer cant tell you the emotional story. It can give you the exact mathematical design, but whats missing is the eyebrows." - Frank Zappa "The Internet is a shallow and unreliable electronic repository of dirty pictures, inaccurate rumors, bad spelling and worse grammar, inhabited largely by people with no demonstrable social skills." - The Chronicle of Higher Education (Nov 4, 1997) "Think of Usenet as the electronic version of something that's partway between a cocktail party & a soap opera. Except at this sort of cocktail party all the guests have bags over their heads & communicate by leaving messages on a sofa, where some messages become irretrievably lost down the back." - Duncan Campbell "Women have already achieved great strides in the predominantly male world of cyberspace. Only as they continue to not only create a place for women on the Internet but actively enter predominantly male newsgroups, on-line services, and the World Wide Web can we expect to see the climate of the Internet become more open." - Patricia K. Bowers St. Isidore, patron saint of computers & the Internet http://www.catholic.org/isidore/ < >................ I can assure you that I'm also >>with you on your absolute dislike for sneakiness, unwholesome intent and >>other ignoble qualities....... You know my ex-wife, huh? John >>I'm in disbelief, aghast and very hurt over your reaction to the fact >>that I am using a blocked email address, which, in your eyes, makes me [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >Will, T2 Hi, Will -- Get stabbed in the back a few times, or marry a sociopath, and learn the way of the "sneaky." SignatureBlueBrooke T2/D&E/June 2005 May 2007 A1c 5.5 Oct 2006 A1c 5.8 Jun 2005 A1c 6.8 >>Sorry, Nixi >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >Get stabbed in the back a few times, or marry a sociopath, and learn >the way of the "sneaky." Hi Blue, After reading some of the responses, I really do understand somewhat where Nixi and others are coming from. It is just that in my case there is absolutely no point, because I have a very marketed website, and I have been something of a public person for a very, very long time. If I were to adopt a false persona on here, it would feel very odd to me, and I would not be able to speak from the heart about some of my real-life experiences... And besides, my life has been threatened rather much over the years.... sometimes by inmates calling from prison, even. It just does not matter anymore. Anyway, I take reasonable precautions in other ways. With luck, and a little planning, so far I have been able to handle anything that comes my way... :-) I refuse to live in fear of what someone somewhere might do. Will, T2 >>>Sorry, Nixi >>> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >way... :-) I refuse to live in fear of what someone somewhere might >do. You should probably quit while you're ahead. I haven't adopted a false persona -- I haven't said anything that's false. I am not my name -- that's just another thing someone calls me. If not posting my name, address and phone number means I've adopted a "false persona" then so be it. There isn't anything I've said that isn't true -- unlike some here who DO use their real names, and yet can't find the truth, or their a.s, with both hands and a flash light. I also don't "live in fear" of what someone somewhere might do." I prefer to keep my private life private. I share few details, but I probably don't tell people here any more or any less than I tell my neighbors. SignatureBlueBrooke T2/D&E/June 2005 May 2007 A1c 5.5 Oct 2006 A1c 5.8 Jun 2005 A1c 6.8 >I also don't "live in fear" of what someone somewhere might do." I >prefer to keep my private life private. I share few details, but I >probably don't tell people here any more or any less than I tell my >neighbors. I understand, Blue, and I respect that.... As a public person, I just do not know how else to deal with it.... You may, or may not, have seen me on national and worldwide TV a few times in the last year, or two... That is just what happens in my business and in my profession. I know that less than a year ago, I was all over the news, and people sought me out. I even had to give interviews to Asian and European news services. That is just my life. Some reading this here may remember it. Will, T2 Yes, Will, but the point is, if you had started out posting in this newsgroup with a nic and a munged addy, and didn't post too many real personal details of your life that didn't have to do with diabetes, nobody in the group would have known any of that, or even that you're a lawyer, but that wouldn't mean that your persona was false. Some of the posters want to keep their private lives private, and nothing wrong with that at all. Hope you're feeling better today. Cheri Will, T2 wrote in message <460183lvglmi4h489202t2jll8it5a7bip@4ax.com>... >>I also don't "live in fear" of what someone somewhere might do." I >>prefer to keep my private life private. I share few details, but I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >I understand, Blue, and I respect that.... As a public person, I just >do not know how else to deal with it.... >Yes, Will, but the point is, if you had started out posting in this >newsgroup with a nic and a munged addy, and didn't post too many real [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Cheri I understand that Cheri... I'm some better... still far from over it. I did not go to the doctor, because when I was going to go, there was a horrific storm, with lots of rain, lightening, etc. Half the lights in the area were out, and there were traffic jams all over the place. I did not want to risk getting stranded and soaked, especially since I already have pneumonia. Will, T2 I still dont know who he is and am just not a curious enough person to look him up..lol. One thing i always found in my stays in chatrooms etc is that im usually let down when i see the persons picture etc as it ruins my mental image of them ive had. For example in a scifi chat there was a huge meet of all the particpants in the chatroom and people kept demanding i see the pictures of the event. So i give in and look and NOBODY apeared as their personnas..lol. The sex kitten who flirts none stop is a wierd hippe male..the supposed firman telling tales of heroics is a 500 pound mommas boy etc etc.. Since then i take people at face value and keep the image of them i have and like to keep it that way..and im rarely dissapointed. KROM > Yes, Will, but the point is, if you had started out posting in this > newsgroup with a nic and a munged addy, and didn't post too many real [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >>I understand, Blue, and I respect that.... As a public person, I just >>do not know how else to deal with it.... >I still dont know who he is and am just not a curious enough person to look >him up..lol. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Since then i take people at face value and keep the image of them i have and >like to keep it that way..and im rarely dissapointed. You're right about mental pictures and I see what you're getting at - but I've never been disappointed by meeting the people I've met from this group (or several others) in person. Surprised occasionally - but never disappointed. Can't say what they thought though - although none fainted or ran away screaming:-) Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/ latest: Up to Kuranda by train http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/ > You're right about mental pictures and I see what you're > getting at - but I've never been disappointed by meeting the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Can't say what they thought though - although none fainted > or ran away screaming:-) Curiously, different approaches to this issue are the explanation for why some of our members of asd have pictures up in the gallery, and some do not.... Mine has been up for a couple of years, now... The first one showed what I looked like about the time of diagnosis. The second one, which I put up a year ago, shows how I looked after losing 50-60 lbs, which made a huge difference in my overall health. This year, I have something of a different look, as I have put about 10 pounds back on... To see the now me, checkout mckee.wm@gmail.com, where I have a pic posted on a profile. It is OK with me for people to see what I really look like.... Heck, I am even in the Community Phone Book, picture and all.... ;-) Will, T2 >> You're right about mental pictures and I see what you're >> getting at - but I've never been disappointed by meeting the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> Can't say what they thought though - although none fainted >> or ran away screaming:-) > Curiously, different approaches to this issue are the explanation for why > some of our members of asd have pictures up in the gallery, and some do > not.... > Mine has been up for a couple of years, now... The first one showed what I > looked like about the time of diagnosis. The second one, which I put up a > year ago, shows how I looked after losing 50-60 lbs, which made a huge > difference in my overall health. This year, I have something of a different > look, as I have put about 10 pounds back on... To see the now me, checkout > mckee.wm@gmail.com, where I have a pic posted on a profile. I'm always looking for helpful ways to motivate me to take diet and exercise and BG control more seriously. Keeping logs of my weight, BG, and exercise, does help. I do like to see the weight and BG graphs going down and the exercise graphs going up, and I get really embarrassed and annoyed when due to self-indulgence they go the wrong way. Which definitely helps to brake my slide down the self-indulgent slope towards worsening diabetic complications. It occurred to me recently that it might help to motivate me if I took dated photographs of myself naked. They'd be sufficiently unattractive that I'm actually pretty reluctant to do it. Which tells me that doing it would probably have a a good motivating effect. SignatureChris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/] >It occurred to me recently that it might help to motivate me if I took >dated photographs of myself naked. They'd be sufficiently unattractive >that I'm actually pretty reluctant to do it. Which tells me that doing >it would probably have a a good motivating effect. Hi Chris, You are a very funny guy! I love your humor.... Don't ever change. You really bring a special sense of presence to this group. Will, T2 Hehe thats a good thing! Most people have the completly wrong image of me but thats also a good thing..lol. KROM > You're right about mental pictures and I see what you're > getting at - but I've never been disappointed by meeting the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > latest: Up to Kuranda by train > http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/ >>>>Sorry, Nixi >>>> [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] >probably don't tell people here any more or any less than I tell my >neighbors. Actually, probably more. None of my neighbors -- hell, not even my own family -- know any of my A1cs. SignatureBlueBrooke T2/D&E/June 2005 May 2007 A1c 5.5 Oct 2006 A1c 5.8 Jun 2005 A1c 6.8 I don't think not posting any of those things makes one a "false persona" at all. I think it's a completely personal choice, and in some cases a very smart one not to reveal info, due to all the nuts floating around the internet. Cheri BlueBrooke <.@.> wrote in message ... >I haven't adopted a false persona -- I haven't said anything that's >false. I am not my name -- that's just another thing someone calls >me. If not posting my name, address and phone number means I've >adopted a "false persona" then so be it. There isn't anything I've >I don't think not posting any of those things makes one a "false >persona" at all. I think it's a completely personal choice, and in >some cases a very smart one not to reveal info, due to all the nuts >floating around the internet. Long ago, in a land far away, I had a person in my real life stalk me online. I even had suspicions, but since that person didn't even own a computer, I thought I was just being paranoid. It was after all hell broke loose that I found that person *did* have a computer -- installed in the little closet downstairs -- which had been purchased, and hidden, just to keep tabs on me. It was just the tip of the iceberg for that sick twist. A friend told me after the "big reveal" that she had always thought I was just paranoid. After this happened, she understood that yes, I was paranoid, but I'd earned it. I can't think of any reason why anyone here would want to get in touch with me in RL, and if they did, it would only set off alarm bells, since I don't have anything anyone here would want. SignatureBlueBrooke T2/D&E/June 2005 May 2007 A1c 5.5 Oct 2006 A1c 5.8 Jun 2005 A1c 6.8 >>I don't think not posting any of those things makes one a "false >>persona" at all. I think it's a completely personal choice, and in [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >with me in RL, and if they did, it would only set off alarm bells, >since I don't have anything anyone here would want. In my life Blue, I have often been subjected to "death threats".... It just goes with the territory. So far, those who have threatened have been the ones who met with a bad fate. There is always a first time, and (knock on wood) I hope that does not happen to me. But, I am ready and prepared in my own way, so to speak, and I am not afraid of anyone on the planet. Will, T2 >In my life Blue, I have often been subjected to "death threats".... It >just goes with the territory. So far, those who have threatened have >been the ones who met with a bad fate. There is always a first time, >and (knock on wood) I hope that does not happen to me. But, I am ready >and prepared in my own way, so to speak, and I am not afraid of anyone >on the planet. Maybe that one explanation of my style and manner of posting.... Into the wide open... Will, T2 >>In my life Blue, I have often been subjected to "death threats".... It >>just goes with the territory. So far, those who have threatened have [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Will, T2 As I was taking a break a minute ago, I asked myself, is this secrecy stuff rather not like peeing upon a rock in the shadows? I was on my back patio at the moment, with the lights temporarily off... ;-) I prefer to take the Ben Franklin approach and declare, "Fart proudly!" Ha... don't mind me. It is just my peculiar take on things. I have been the victim, or almost victim, of numerous crimes and misdemeanors, and still I am here. I have just given up on the secrecy angle, although I assure you that I know quite well how to protect myself and my family. Will, T2 >I prefer to take the Ben Franklin approach and declare, "Fart >proudly!" My son has something in common with Ben Franklin! I can now die happy. :-) SignatureBlueBrooke T2/D&E/June 2005 May 2007 A1c 5.5 Oct 2006 A1c 5.8 Jun 2005 A1c 6.8 I think you're smart not to post info after an experience like that, and I do agree with you that I'll decide what information I want to give, and to whom I want to give it to as well. :-) Cheri >>Long ago, in a land far away, I had a person in my real life stalk me >>online. I even had suspicions, but since that person didn't even own [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>and hidden, just to keep tabs on me. It was just the tip of the >>iceberg for that sick twist. >>>I don't think not posting any of those things makes one a "false >>>persona" at all. I think it's a completely personal choice, and in [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >and prepared in my own way, so to speak, and I am not afraid of anyone >on the planet. Hi, Will -- Personally, I don't equate paying attention to what's going on around me, and requiring that people actually earn my trust and respect, with being afraid. I am perfectly able to deal with any situation that presents itself. The fact that I prefer not to doesn't mean I'm afraid. Do you lock your house when you go to the office in the morning? Since locks only keep out people who don't really want in, why bother? Does locking your house mean you're afraid? You seem to think the way your life works is alien to me -- it isn't. I was involved in law for over twenty years -- I know how things work. I'm a country bumpkin now, but I'm imported from "the big city." I should hope you would have a fairly developed sense of suspicion since you've been subjected to so many death threats. Why is that being afraid when it's applied to me, but not to you? SignatureBlueBrooke T2/D&E/June 2005 May 2007 A1c 5.5 Oct 2006 A1c 5.8 Jun 2005 A1c 6.8 >You seem to think the way your life works is alien to me -- it isn't. >I was involved in law for over twenty years -- I know how things work. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >since you've been subjected to so many death threats. Why is that >being afraid when it's applied to me, but not to you? I do not mean to be critical Blue... We each have our own concerns and philosophies of life. It is just that after lurking on here for months, close to a year actually, I came to feel that it would be a waste time if I could not post authentically from my own experience, totally factually, in a completely verifiable manner... With authority, as they say. I am all over the media anyway, so it really did not matter in my case... I already get death threats, etc., anyway. So what? I can take precautions in other ways, and believe me, I have.... You are totally OK in my book... Just don't come round late at night near my house, w/o calling first to see if it is OK ;-) Will, T2 >You are totally OK in my book... Just don't come round late at night >near my house, w/o calling first to see if it is OK ;-) *sigh* Guess I need to reschedule my Thursday. ;-) SignatureBlueBrooke T2/D&E/June 2005 May 2007 A1c 5.5 Oct 2006 A1c 5.8 Jun 2005 A1c 6.8 >*sigh* > >Guess I need to reschedule my Thursday. > >;-) When do you think you might be over? I really, really would like to meet you in person... Always feel free to call my office 757-461-9420... I have about 20 other phone numbers, but that is the main one. There are a few security people always hanging around, but don't worry about them. I would really like to speak with you anytime...no joke. Will, T2 >When do you think you might be over? I really, really would like to >meet you in person... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Will, T2 Because of all the security, etc., I often feel very isolated... rather like a captive of my own self. I very much welcome visitors of good will all the time, every day. On occasion, I have even welcomed homeless people and refugees into my own home for months at a time. Will, T2 >I can't think of any reason why anyone here would want to get in touch >with me in RL, and if they did, it would only set off alarm bells, >since I don't have anything anyone here would want. Hey - I want your karate belt, our sensei has just swapped testing dates to one we can't make, grrr... Seriously, that must have been awful. Was your lad around then? - I'd be scared enough if that was just me, but if the family were put at risk as well - too much : ( Glad it's over for you! Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 Good morning, Nicky! >>I can't think of any reason why anyone here would want to get in touch >>with me in RL, and if they did, it would only set off alarm bells, >>since I don't have anything anyone here would want. > >Hey - I want your karate belt, our sensei has just swapped testing >dates to one we can't make, grrr... Ouch!!! Will he let you test a day or two earlier or later? I found out our's will do that if you can't make the exact day. I hope you can get something worked out! It would be awful to have to wait another month! Or is it two? We test every month, except for June, because of the World Championships last weekend. Speaking of World Championships, my son took a first in sparring and a second in weapons. He's quite impressed with himself this week, as we all are. Not bragging or anything -- okay, well, maybe a little. I don't quite have my voice back yet. :-D >Seriously, that must have been awful. Was your lad around then? - I'd >be scared enough if that was just me, but if the family were put at >risk as well - too much : ( Glad it's over for you! Nope -- it just involved me. This was a long, long time ago -- over twenty years. I was totally blown away by the lengths he went to. Apparently, he even rigged up something to record my telephone conversations. It isn't over -- he's not dead yet. SignatureBlueBrooke T2/D&E/June 2005 May 2007 A1c 5.5 Oct 2006 A1c 5.8 Jun 2005 A1c 6.8 >Ouch!!! Will he let you test a day or two earlier or later? Negotiating.. slightly complicated because there's 3 of us, but the kids are going for junior belts, so can't do my attack-defence forms with me in a grading. 3 months if not!! >Speaking of World Championships, my son took a first in sparring and a >second in weapons. He's quite impressed with himself this week, as we >all are. Not bragging or anything -- okay, well, maybe a little. I >don't quite have my voice back yet. :-D Oh WOW! Please pass on my congratulations :D And I'm sending you a virtual throat-soother : ) >It isn't over -- he's not dead yet. : ( Here's hoping he stays dead to you. Nicky. Hi, Nicky -- >>Ouch!!! Will he let you test a day or two earlier or later? > >Negotiating.. slightly complicated because there's 3 of us, but the >kids are going for junior belts, so can't do my attack-defence forms >with me in a grading. 3 months if not!! Oh, no! That would be too long. I think I would get discouraged (and bored) if I had to wait that long and it wasn't my idea. ;-) Our black belts come to testing to help with things like that -- your attack-defence forms. Do your's? It wouldn't be even the slightest issue at our school, but I'm sure there are things that are big stumbling blocks for us that you guys wouldn't think twice about. I hope it gets worked out! Keep me posted! >>Speaking of World Championships, my son took a first in sparring and a >>second in weapons. He's quite impressed with himself this week, as we [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Oh WOW! Please pass on my congratulations :D And I'm sending you a >virtual throat-soother : ) I will -- and thanks. :-) >>It isn't over -- he's not dead yet. > >: ( Here's hoping he stays dead to you. That one's definitely got my vote. I'm ready, willing and able to deal with him if he does happen to show up -- now I *do* have my son involved -- but I'd rather not have to. :-) SignatureBlueBrooke T2/D&E/June 2005 May 2007 A1c 5.5 Oct 2006 A1c 5.8 Jun 2005 A1c 6.8 Besides the obvious spam annoyances..i am sad to say that over the years had so many usenet stalkers and wierdos i find it easier to conversate in the group and really dont have anything that needs to be privately emailed to me. If i wish to take things outside a group then i will make arrangments to do so. Even the supposedly normal people can turn on you as heck coming here i walked into a few wars between rival groups such as the sily type one verse type two battle and the nutty "dr" and his rivals..none of which intrests me and wouldnt change my opinion if i was emailed. People tend to be just nosey..if a poster is supportive and tries be a part of the group who cares what they look or what thier "real" name is..all things easily faked anyhoo. In the weights boards i was on there was a nutter who claimed to be the worlds strongest man and pestered me for attention and tried to stalk me...he posted pics of himself and his real name..of course both were fake and the guy never worked out a day in his life. Funny thing is he actually gave decent advice so other then the crazy obsession with me ..he was semi useful...lol. I see usnet like walking into a bar full of people...theres some who are close..others who just want a drink and not be bothered. There might be some happy to help you with info like whats good on the menu..and others who will throw up on your shoes. You got the crazies who wear tinfoil hats that everyone tolerates cause thats "just crazy joe". One thing that wouldnt happen that happens here is ...people in the bar might ask your name..and you might give it..but if they gave you the sort of grand inquisition that strangers on the internet feel intiled to you would laugh in thier faces and head to exit. Or if you are thick skined ya pick a seat and sip yer brew and nibble yer bowl of nuts as ya watch the show! Thing tho about usenet is nobody owns the bar so those who feel they own the place are delusional and sorta amusing. :-) KROM <-- nope not my real name..lol > Will and Churie wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > I shall ignore any potential replies to this post of mine - just let it > rest. I'm not a friend of verbal "fencing". >I see usnet like walking into a bar full of people...theres some who are >close..others who just want a drink and not be bothered. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Thing tho about usenet is nobody owns the bar so those who feel they own the >place are delusional and sorta amusing. I like your humor and your analogy, KROM... Usenet is a wild and crazy place. Will, T2 Me too Will, I have been here only a short while after lurking while reading a couple of thousand posts to cathc up, to get a feeling for the level of debate and to decide if I want to be in here (so many USENET places are BAD, finicky, and are only tolerant if the newbie adheres to certain unwritten rules I also got a feeling for the intelligent and the noises, So now I am off to block a few posters... It's nice knowing you .. KROM, Will T2 "Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> a écrit ... >>I see usnet like walking into a bar full of people...theres some who are >>close..others who just want a drink and not be bothered. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Will, T2 <waves> KROM > Me too Will, I have been here only a short while after lurking while > reading [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >> >> Will, T2 > It's nice knowing you .. KROM, Will T2 Nice knowing you, too, Frank.... I am glad you are with us. Will, T2 Aw c'mon, I was just sure it was your real name, and couldn't wait to know your middle name. ;-) Cheri krom wrote in message ... >KROM <-- nope not my real name..lol > Aw c'mon, I was just sure it was your real name, and couldn't wait to > know your middle name. ;-) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >>KROM <-- nope not my real name..lol I prefer to remain anonymous. Johnnie McCoy >> Aw c'mon, I was just sure it was your real name, and couldn't wait to >> know your middle name. ;-) [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Johnnie McCoy .....damn! Sometimes I'm so stupid! JM Furriously googles him... Oh ..oh gross..in 2 nd grade you ate worms! Sicko! Now i can never speak to you again! HMPH! KROM >>> Aw c'mon, I was just sure it was your real name, and couldn't wait to >>> know your middle name. ;-) [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > JM >Furriously googles him... >Oh ..oh gross..in 2 nd grade you ate worms! >Sicko! >Now i can never speak to you again! We did the worm poem on asd.uk just a week or two ago ;D Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 > Furriously googles him... > Oh ..oh gross..in 2 nd grade you ate worms! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > KROM ...lol. I gave up on trying to hide it... it's a lost cause for me. I have so many websites that have been crawled so much that I think there are email spiders and robots actually lost in them. John (a public domain identity) >>>> Aw c'mon, I was just sure it was your real name, and couldn't wait to >>>> know your middle name. ;-) [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> >> JM Me too. ;-) Cheri johnniemccoy@ wrote in message ... >I prefer to remain anonymous. > >Johnnie McCoy Ok ok..my full name is KROM KROM KROM....hmm..reminds me of a certain python skit and now i got that song stuck in my head! spam spam spam spam..glorious spam! KROM > Aw c'mon, I was just sure it was your real name, and couldn't wait to > know your middle name. ;-) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >>KROM <-- nope not my real name..lol LOL Cheri krom wrote in message ... >Ok ok..my full name is KROM KROM KROM....hmm..reminds me of a certain python >skit and now i got that song stuck in my head! > >spam spam spam spam..glorious spam! ExACtly, KROM, bravo!!! You are echoing my feelings. Excellent analogy, too. We are on the exact same wave length on this subject. Thanks. Nixi On Sun, Jun 24, 2007, 12:16pm (PDT+2) thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com <<Besides the obvious spam annoyances..i am sad to say that over the years had so many usenet stalkers and wierdos i find it easier to conversate in the group and really dont have anything that needs to be privately emailed to me. If i wish to take things outside a group then i will make arrangments to do so. Even the supposedly normal people can turn on you as heck coming here i walked into a few wars between rival groups such as the sily type one verse type two battle and the nutty "dr" and his rivals..none of which intrests me and wouldnt change my opinion if i was emailed. People tend to be just nosey..if a poster is supportive and tries be a part of the group who cares what they look or what thier "real" name is..all things easily faked anyhoo. In the weights boards i was on there was a nutter who claimed to be the worlds strongest man and pestered me for attention and tried to stalk me...he posted pics of himself and his real name..of course both were fake and the guy never worked out a day in his life. Funny thing is he actually gave decent advice so other then the crazy obsession with me .he was semi useful...lol. I see usnet like walking into a bar full of people...theres some who are close..others who just want a drink and not be bothered. There might be some happy to help you with info like whats good on the menu..and others who will throw up on your shoes. You got the crazies who wear tinfoil hats that everyone tolerates cause thats "just crazy joe". One thing that wouldnt happen that happens here is ...people in the bar might ask your name..and you might give it..but if they gave you the sort of grand inquisition that strangers on the internet feel intiled to you would laugh in thier faces and head to exit. Or if you are thick skined ya pick a seat and sip yer brew and nibble yer bowl of nuts as ya watch the show! Thing tho about usenet is nobody owns the bar so those who feel they own the place are delusional and sorta amusing. :-) KROM <-- nope not my real name..lol >> Ty ma'am :-) KROM > ExACtly, KROM, bravo!!! You are echoing my feelings. Excellent > analogy, too. We are on the exact same wave length on this subject. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > :-) > KROM <-- nope not my real name..lol >> >I see usnet like walking into a bar full of people...theres some who are >close..others who just want a drink and not be bothered. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Thing tho about usenet is nobody owns the bar so those who feel they own the >place are delusional and sorta amusing. I like the bar analogy for other reasons. I think of usenet medical groups as like a bar near a |
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