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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / May 2007First post to this newsgroup.
Hi all, New to this newsgroup and new to being diagnosed as Type II (diagnosed on April 7th, 2007). Hope to learn a lot and eventually be able to contribute to this group. Dale  Signaturehttp://TheColony.com/ Community site for people living or working in The Colony, TX and surrounding communities! Free blogs, classifieds, clubs and more. >Hi all, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Dale Welcome Dale, there's a lot that can be learned here. Some really smart posters and some who have a different message. You'll learn quickly enough who to skip over. Many of us (Type II's) use various methods of diet and exercise along with the meds our doctors order to help with our control. We are all fighting the same issues to some degree so pull up a chair and make yourself confortable. RB Hi RB, >> Hi all, >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > smart posters and some who have a different message. You'll learn > quickly enough who to skip over. I think I have already learned of one 'Dr." that seems to be posting here as well as alt.health.diabetes Was rather disappointed at how much time seems to be taken up with his posts over there. > Many of us (Type II's) use various methods of diet and exercise along > with the meds our doctors order to help with our control. That is my goal, I have been trying to lose weight for years with limited success. This gives me more reason to get it done. I am in the process of cleaning my garage to make space to setup all of my exercise equipment (I spent last weekend doing lots of work cleaning and my before meal BS were below 100 all day, with my after meal BS being no higher that 155!). Proof that activity really makes a difference. My current plan is to see what kind of progress I make on weight loss by the end of May, then use that info to help set a weight loss goal for year end. In my mind I am thinking that 40lbs should be doable. > We are all fighting the same issues to some degree so pull up a chair > and make yourself confortable. Thanks! Looking forward to it. I wonder if any folks from here ever happen to meet in person for dinner or walking/exercising? > RB Dale Signaturehttp://TheColony.com/ Community site for people living or working in The Colony, TX and surrounding communities! Free blogs, classifieds, clubs and more. > Hi RB, > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > the end of May, then use that info to help set a weight loss goal for > year end. In my mind I am thinking that 40lbs should be doable. FWIW - metformin is one of the most frequently prescribed diabetes oral meds - you didn't mention if you're on it. It has a tendency to help with the weight loss to some degree - probably because it causes some level of gastric difficulty. Since I was diagnosed in June 2005, I have lost 20 pounds with metformin, exercise and diet. Don't know where you live, but I'll pass along one interesting tidbit - all the sources I can find indicate that showshoeing burns about twice the calories of hiking. >> We are all fighting the same issues to some degree so pull up a chair >> and make yourself confortable. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Dale > > Hi RB, > >> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > the weight loss to some degree - probably because it causes some level of > gastric difficulty. When there is loss of appetite from "gastric difficulty," there would also be concern about the possibility of the potentially lethal side effect of lactic acidosis. Wiser to lose all the visceral adipose tissue (VAT) by eating less down to the optimal amount and becoming hungrier than you have ever been in your life thereby possibly curing your type-2 diabetes after curing the underlying metabolic syndrome (MetS): http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp This Approach now comes with a million-dollar guarantee: http://TruthRUS.org/Guarantee May GOD bless you. Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD http://EmoryCardiology.com "Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined with well-balanced diets." http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth "Wiser to lose all the visceral adipose tissue (VAT) by eating less down to the optimal amount and becoming hungrier than you have ever been in your life thereby possibly curing your type-2 diabetes after curing the underlying metabolic syndrome (MetS):" To save any new readers time in learning what everyone comes to realize, the two pound diet is trash science and it is not a cure for diabetes: The author of the two pound diet has not kept up with diabetes scientific literature, distorts valid science in pursuit of a non-scientific agenda, ignores science which completely refutes all the claims of the agenda. In short, he can be ignored with complete peace of mind because the truth is not in him. Ray, i certainly have to agree that metformin is one of the 'first meds' that a diabetic should be given, because of it's diabetes effects, the weight loss effect (i had no gastro problems from the metformin, but i easily lost 10 to 15 pounds from Nov to the beginning of April), and it's cardio protective abilities i wish OldAl were here to post still kate SignatureJoin us in the Diabetic-Talk Chatroom on UnderNet /server irc.undernet.org --- /join #Diabetic-Talk More info: http://www.diabetic-talk.org/ http://www.diabetic-talk.org/freeveggies.htm I have no medical qualifications beyond my own experience. Choose your advisers carefully, because experience can be an expensive teacher. > FWIW - metformin is one of the most frequently prescribed diabetes oral > meds - you didn't mention if you're on it. It has a tendency to help with [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I'll pass along one interesting tidbit - all the sources I can find > indicate that showshoeing burns about twice the calories of hiking. Hi, >> Hi RB, >> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > FWIW - metformin is one of the most frequently prescribed diabetes oral > meds - you didn't mention if you're on it. Right now on sliding scale NovoLog during the day and Lantus at night. Trying to get my head wrapped around proper meal planing (I am a good cook, but never really learned how to plan a balanced meal), and increasing my activity levels. > It has a tendency to help with > the weight loss to some degree - probably because it causes some level of > gastric difficulty. Since I was diagnosed in June 2005, I have lost 20 > pounds with metformin, exercise and diet. Congratulations! > Don't know where you live, but > I'll pass along one interesting tidbit - all the sources I can find > indicate that showshoeing burns about twice the calories of hiking. Not too much snow down here in TX :) Although I grew up in Maine and went snowshoeing on occasion when I Was much younger. >>> We are all fighting the same issues to some degree so pull up a chair >>> and make yourself confortable. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>> RB >> Dale Signaturehttp://TheColony.com/ Community site for people living or working in The Colony, TX and surrounding communities! Free blogs, classifieds, clubs and more. "Dale" <nntp@example.com> wrote in message > Thanks! Looking forward to it. I wonder if any folks from here ever > happen to meet in person for dinner or walking/exercising? Sure, come on over. It's a hop, skip and a jump to Oz ;) welcome Dale. may you find many garages to clean out! Hi Ozgirl > "Dale" <nntp@example.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Sure, come on over. It's a hop, skip and a jump to Oz ;) welcome Dale. may > you find many garages to clean out! Not quite a hop, skip and a jump... ;) I was fortunate enough to visit Sydney back in spring of 2002 for a short visit, want to go back one day soon, as well as visit your neighbor New Zealand. Once I get mine fully cleaned out, 1/2 of it will be my fitness center :) Signaturehttp://TheColony.com/ Community site for people living or working in The Colony, TX and surrounding communities! Free blogs, classifieds, clubs and more. >I think I have already learned of one 'Dr." that seems to be posting >here as well as alt.health.diabetes > >Was rather disappointed at how much time seems to be taken up with his >posts over there. Hi Dale Welcome. On ABC, and occasionally for others, do you have killfiles on your newsreader? Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/ http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/ latest: Athens and The Adriatic Hi Alan, >> I think I have already learned of one 'Dr." that seems to be posting >> here as well as alt.health.diabetes [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > On ABC, and occasionally for others, do you have killfiles > on your newsreader? Currently using Thunderbird which doesn't seem to offer any kind of filtering for newsgroups. I just might switch to something else soon. Any suggestions? Dale p.s. I see a number of folks have info in their sig about their status/meds - not sure I know all the abbreviations yet. > > Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/ > latest: Athens and The Adriatic Signaturehttp://TheColony.com/ Community site for people living or working in The Colony, TX and surrounding communities! Free blogs, classifieds, clubs and more. > Currently using Thunderbird which doesn't seem to offer any kind of > filtering for newsgroups. Try Tools>Message Filters in Thunderbird. > p.s. I see a number of folks have info in their sig about their > status/meds - not sure I know all the abbreviations yet. Try http://www.diabetic-talk.org/glossary.htm Welcome to our little dysfunctional newsgroup, Jim >Hi Alan, > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >p.s. I see a number of folks have info in their sig about their >status/meds - not sure I know all the abbreviations yet. I use Agent. You can download it here: http://www.forteinc.com/agent/ After the trial period it reverts to FreeAgent which didn't have killfiles. I eventually paid the money. I like it as a newsreader but others may be able to offer something equally good and free. I see Jim answered you on the other question. Among the other replies, I'll just add that this was the most important link you received: http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm It works. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/ http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/ latest: Athens and The Adriatic Thanks! >> Hi Alan, >> [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/ > latest: Athens and The Adriatic Signaturehttp://TheColony.com/ Community site for people living or working in The Colony, TX and surrounding communities! Free blogs, classifieds, clubs and more. Welcome, Dale. I take it you live in The Colony, Texas. Can you hear me calling those Hogs? Sleep is about to overcome me so will call it quits for now. Billie Enjoyed the blog. : Thanks! Looking forward to it. I wonder if any folks from here ever : happen to meet in person for dinner or walking/exercising? : : Dale Hi Billie, > Welcome, Dale. I take it you live in The Colony, Texas. Can you hear me > calling those Hogs? Sleep is about to overcome me so will call it quits for > now. Where are you located? > Billie > > Enjoyed the blog. Thanks, I haven't updated my profile for a bit, this month has been pretty hectic! Dale > : Thanks! Looking forward to it. I wonder if any folks from here ever > : happen to meet in person for dinner or walking/exercising? > : > : Dale Signaturehttp://TheColony.com/ Community site for people living or working in The Colony, TX and surrounding communities! Free blogs, classifieds, clubs and more. "Dale" <nntp@example.com> wrote in message : Hi Billie, : [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : : Where are you located? Blytheville, NE corner, on the MO bootheel border, up the Mississippi from Memphis. :) Almost due West from the U of A, and the Razorbacks!!! : > Billie : > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] : : Dale Welcome to the group Dale. I'll look forward to your contributions. :-) Cheri Dale wrote in message ... >Hi all, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Community site for people living or working in The Colony, TX and >surrounding communities! Free blogs, classifieds, clubs and more. Hi Cheri, > Welcome to the group Dale. I'll look forward to your contributions. > :-) > > Cheri Thanks for the welcome! > Dale wrote in message ... >> Hi all, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >> Dale Hi Dale, Just dx last month type 2. BS was upper 300's - 500's, and now in the 100's. On Actos, Metformin, doing tons of research, working hard on diet, trying to get physically more active also. Some nice people here. :) Ttyl, Kris Hi Kris, > Hi Dale, > Just dx last month type 2. BS was upper 300's - 500's, and now in the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Ttyl, > Kris Congrats on those levels! Mine has been pretty much staying in the 100's, I will admit I get annoyed when it goes into the high 100's. I still don't have a good handle all of this. Last night while taking my roommate to look at (and buy) a used car, we needed to run to an ATM, after walking around a bit, the tops of my thighs felt a bit numb, which seems to be one of my indicators. It had been about 5 hours since I had had a full mean, but had had a nice salad (yep, no carbs) about 3 hours earlier. So I stopped at the closest fast food place and got something - 1 order of steak taquitos at Taco Bell and water). I felt much better within 2-3 minutes. When I got home 1 hour later, my BS was 138. Yet 2 hours later it was up to 178. This is the kind of thing that I don't get. The taquitos are made with a burrito-sized flour tortilla, cut in half, with steak and a small amount of cheese. So that should be at most 2 carb portions. I don't get why my BS went so high 3 hours later. Any insights? Dale Signaturehttp://TheColony.com/ Community site for people living or working in The Colony, TX and surrounding communities! Free blogs, classifieds, clubs and more. >So I stopped at the closest fast food place and got something - 1 order >of steak taquitos at Taco Bell and water). I felt much better within 2-3 >minutes. When I got home 1 hour later, my BS was 138. Yet 2 hours later >it was up to 178. This is the kind of thing that I don't get. Hi, Dale - nice to meet you! For me, that would be way too many carbs, with a spike kept artificially high from the fat in the meal. I'm not on insulin, though. You might be getting a liver dump - where you go too low (or your liver thinks you might be in danger of going low), and so it pumps out tons of sugar to keep you going. Because your natural off switch (your own insulin-producing beta cells) aren't working right, it just keeps going, and going... until my bgs stabilised, I could double my bg in 10 mins. A real PITA - it took me months before I could exercise in the morning without my liver trying to be helpful! Are you after some reading recommendations? If so, Gretchen Becker's Type 2 Diabetes; The First Year is a good primer. Have you seen an endo? Do they expect you to stay on insulin? Sounds like you might be a candidate for just diet and exercise, at least once your garage is sorted : ) Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.5% BMI 25 Dale, welcome to our group. We would like to find out all about you. what meds are you on. diet and exercise help tremendously but meds can really help I have been on byetta and I have lost thirty five pounds on it. You might want to talk to your doctor about it. Loretta Hi Loretta, > Dale, welcome to our group. We would like to find out all about you. Nah, you really don't want to find out all about me, I might scare everyone away! <g> A short summary: Just turned 46 (got out of the hospital on my birthday!), single, born and raised in Maine, have been in Dallas, TX since 1984, except for 4 years (1999-2003) living in Germany. Computer geek, job hunting (see below). A Bear of a guy :) > what meds are you on. Novolog before meals, sliding scale - basically 100-150 = 2 units, 151-200 = 4 units and so on. And Lantus 60 units before bed. No other meds. > diet and exercise help tremendously I have been doing better about walking my dog every day, walks range from 10 - 45 minutes depending on weather, timing etc. Also trying to get the exercise equipment I already own all setup in the garage to make my own mini-fitness center. Also making sure I eat more than I am used to, in the past I would often only eat 1 meal a day. > but meds can > really help I have been on byetta and I have lost thirty five pounds on > it. You might want to talk to your doctor about it. I have heard about byetta, they were suggesting I wait a bit before getting on it. Give my levels a chance to settle down. One other complication is that the small company I work for is selling off a big part of itself - effective today. Initially I was going to lose my job as of today, which would also mean no more insurance (We are too small to qualify for cobra), however, I have been given a slight reprieve, my job will continue through May, part time only, but with my insurance intact for May. Going to get as much insulin as I can in advance with my insurance before it goes away so I don't have to pay full price for it. > Loretta Dale Signaturehttp://TheColony.com/ Community site for people living or working in The Colony, TX and surrounding communities! Free blogs, classifieds, clubs and more. Dale sez: One other complication is that the small company I work for is selling off a big part of itself - effective today. Initially I was going to lose my job as of today, which would also mean no more insurance (We are too small to qualify for cobra), however, I have been given a slight reprieve, my job will continue through May, part time only, but with my insurance intact for May. Going to get as much insulin as I can in advance with my insurance before it goes away so I don't have to pay full price for it. That truly sucks. I hope you find something soon. Take care of yourself, because stress does not help when you have diabetes. hugs, kitten > Hi all, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Dale Howdy Dale, This is a good place to be with some smart folks that provide you with good ideas how to procede. I wondered in here 2 years ago and it made a world of difference very quickly. I'm a T2 on insulin and of course, diet and exercise and have my A1C's down to 5.0 levels. Signature"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." Thomas Jefferson "History is earmarked by the successes of liberals and mistakes of conservatives." - ETG welcome, Dale to the group no one wants to qualify to join! :-( glad you found us early, this means you are a self starter who is going to accept that YOU have the responsibility of controlling your diabetes, not your Dr, hairdresser, mother, or whomever thinks they know everything about diabetes (you will get lots of comments from total strangers if they find out you have diabetes :-) ) i'm sure you have tons of questions to ask, so i will wait to hear from you........ and i'm sure you will get lots of advice....... most of it conflicting, but by testing you will be able to sort out who can just 'shoot more insulin' to cover a meal from those who have weight control and blood glucose control in mind and who can't 'shoot more insulin' to cover a meal take care kate SignatureJoin us in the Diabetic-Talk Chatroom on UnderNet /server irc.undernet.org --- /join #Diabetic-Talk More info: http://www.diabetic-talk.org/ http://www.diabetic-talk.org/freeveggies.htm I have no medical qualifications beyond my own experience. Choose your advisers carefully, because experience can be an expensive teacher. > Hi all, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Dale > Hi all, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Community site for people living or working in The Colony, TX and > surrounding communities! Free blogs, classifieds, clubs and more. Hi Dale, Welcome to the group! There is lots of good information and support to be had here. Remember, there is no one specific "right" way to do things. All of us have different methods, coping skills, etc. that work for us. You'll just have to pick & choose, and experiment to find what works for you personally. And the only stupid question is one that goes unasked. Has anyone offered this website? http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm It gives a terrific method for controlling BG with effective use of your glucometer. I encourage you to read it and utilize it. This is what many of use as a basis for BG management. Best regards, Michelle C., T2 diet & exercise >Hi all, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Dale Welcome to our family Dale. That is what we are here for. Like any support group most of us share our experience, strength and hope. Do not be afraid to ask any question at all regardless of how trivial it may seem to be. Just remember that we are not medical experts and are no substitute for medical professionals. -- Grandpa Chuck -ô¿ô- ~ Americans killed in Iraq as of April 29, 2007 is 3,3516. United Kingdom = 146 Other = 125. How many more Americans must die to satisfy Bush's ego? As of April 30, 2007 it has been 1478 days since Bush while standing in front of the banner which was sent to the ship by the White House saying MISSION ACCOMPLISHED declared,"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed." IOW MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair Lewis In alt.support.diabetes on Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:17:38 -0500 in Msg.# > New to this newsgroup and new to being diagnosed as Type II (diagnosed > on April 7th, 2007). Hope to learn a lot and eventually be able to > contribute to this group. Greetings & welcome! There's plenty to get from the website associated with the newsgroup and from recent postings. SignatureDonnaB 06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 hbA1C 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg. ..................09-11-06 hbA1C 5.0 ..................12-20-06 hbA1C 5.2 "A man generally has two reasons for doing a thing. One that sounds good, and a real one." - J. Pierpont Morgan (04/17/1837-03/31/1913) |
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