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RB - 22 Apr 2007 17:24 GMT
Hi guys.  Have a question for you.

As some may recall I am Type II, fairly well controlled.

Recently I have had a couple of moderated lows.  Not a big deal
because I recognized what was happening and took action.

I have also had some pretty strong leg cramps during the night
recently.  I know that cramps are sometimes helped with certain
vitamins.

The question, can low BG trigger leg cramps?  I ask that because I
take a daily multi-vitamin and do not suspect a vitamin deficiency.
I don't think I have done anything else that would trigger cramps so
just wondering what might be causing them now.

Your comments are appreciated as always.

RB
Type II
Diana - 22 Apr 2007 17:34 GMT
> Hi guys.  Have a question for you.
>
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> RB
> Type II

I found this on the web and I have also heard being low in Potassium will
cause them. I have heard High bgs will too.

What causes a leg cramp?
The exact cause of a leg cramp is not well understood, but there are some
risk factors that are thought to contribute to this condition:
Muscle fatigue
Heavy exercising
Dehydration
High weight (not necessarily obesity)
Electrolyte imbalances
Medications (statins, prednisone, others...)

HTH.
Loretta Eisenberg - 22 Apr 2007 18:02 GMT
RB are you on a diurectic.  If so that could be the cause of the leg
cramps.  I am and take potassium to prevent the cramp.  Talk to your
doctor about it.

Loretta
RB - 23 Apr 2007 04:36 GMT
>RB are you on a diurectic.  If so that could be the cause of the leg
>cramps.  I am and take potassium to prevent the cramp.  Talk to your
>doctor about it.
>
>Loretta

Thanks for the info Loretta.  Yes my BP medicine does have a
diurectic, that's one of the reasons for the daily multi-vit.  

I have been on the same meds for several years, the cramp thing is new
(this past week) so I was looking for something that had possibly
changed.

RB
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Apr 2007 18:45 GMT
> >RB are you on a diurectic.  If so that could be the cause of the leg
> >cramps.  I am and take potassium to prevent the cramp.  Talk to your
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>
> RB

Hypomagnesemia (low magnesium) from diuretic use can take from months
to years to become severe enough to cause muscle cramps.

Would suggest you ask your doctor(s) about this possibility.

May GOD bless you.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

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Gene - 22 Apr 2007 18:45 GMT
RB <RB@mars.com> wrote in news:292n23he9cshivn5fn88rpjsampe94aj5v@
4ax.com:

> Hi guys.  Have a question for you.
>
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> RB
> Type II

I tend to get cramps if I don't drink lots of water since Dx.

I wonder if the muscle tension could be using glucose while your sleeping
and helping someone already in good control to get a little low?

I have no idea but with the effect I get with exercise it might be a
factor.

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RB - 23 Apr 2007 04:37 GMT
>RB <RB@mars.com> wrote in news:292n23he9cshivn5fn88rpjsampe94aj5v@
>4ax.com:
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>I have no idea but with the effect I get with exercise it might be a
>factor.

Thanks Gene, I try to stay well hydrated.  Have not stepped up the
exercise so don't suspect that as a cause.

RB
Gene - 23 Apr 2007 12:14 GMT
>>RB <RB@mars.com> wrote in news:292n23he9cshivn5fn88rpjsampe94aj5v@
>>4ax.com:
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>
> RB

Ain't this stuff so predictable:)

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Cougar - 22 Apr 2007 18:47 GMT
> The question, can low BG trigger leg cramps?  I>
> RB
> Type II

I had really weird, out of the ordinary leg cramps (was also on a
multi-vitamin).  I am pretty sure it was my BP med w/ HZTC because when I
changed meds, the severe muscle cramping stopped.  I would get the cramps in
my calves and abdomen.  It would happen when I was doing nothing but turning
over in bed in the middle of the night was worse, or sometimes when I
twisted like to pick something up or bent over...it was very painful and
scary.
Kris
Ozgirl - 23 Apr 2007 00:07 GMT
> > The question, can low BG trigger leg cramps?  I>
> > RB
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> twisted like to pick something up or bent over...it was very painful and
> scary.

My BP med has hct (probably the same thing as yours) and I do not get cramps
anymore. I had two days of it in the beginning and I started taking calcium
supplements and some dried apricots plus lots of water.
RB - 23 Apr 2007 04:39 GMT
>> The question, can low BG trigger leg cramps?  I>
>> RB
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>scary.
>Kris

Hi Kris, my cramps have been in the calves of my legs only, so far.
Very painful in the middle of the night.  Seems to happen if I point
my toes down.

RB
Cheri - 22 Apr 2007 18:51 GMT
No Salt a salt substitute is helpful when I get cramps in my legs or
hands. 1/4 tsp in a small glass of water always helps me. Works good,
works fast in my case. YMMV

Cheri

>Hi guys.  Have a question for you.
>
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>RB
>Type II
Ozgirl - 23 Apr 2007 00:04 GMT
> Hi guys.  Have a question for you.
>
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>
> Your comments are appreciated as always.

I tried extreme low carbing for a kick start to weight loss diet. I was
plagued with cramps until I took a calcium/magnesium supplement. I did not
last the distance with the extreme low carbing so it wasn't a problem. What
kind of meal pattern do you have and what meds? I have never related a low
bg to cramps by the way.
RB - 23 Apr 2007 04:46 GMT
>> Hi guys.  Have a question for you.
>>
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>kind of meal pattern do you have and what meds? I have never related a low
>bg to cramps by the way.

I'm not on any extreme diet.  I attempt to eat a fairly normal diet
but limit carbs to what I can handle per meal.

Meds;  metformin, avandia, starlix, zocor, hyzaar, plus daily
multi-vitamin and fish oil caps.

Between the vitamin and salt in foods I think my intake of minerals is
good.

The only thing that has change is a couple of moderated lows recently
and I was wondering if they might have some impact if I had a low at
night while asleep and didn't realize what was happening.

Thanks for the info.

RB
Nancy - 23 Apr 2007 17:38 GMT
>I tried extreme low carbing for a kick start to weight loss diet. I was
>plagued with cramps until I took a calcium/magnesium supplement. I did not
>last the distance with the extreme low carbing so it wasn't a problem. What
>kind of meal pattern do you have and what meds? I have never related a low
>bg to cramps by the way.

Keep in mind that I come from a chronic pain back ground.  The combination or
calcium/magnesium/vitamin D provides the best absorbency of the calcium and
often relieves leg cramps.  Vitamin D is critical for people who live in the
north where they get less sun.

Nancy
wingmask@yahoo.com - 23 Apr 2007 00:24 GMT
> Hi guys.  Have a question for you.
>
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> RB
> Type II

hi
RB - 23 Apr 2007 04:46 GMT
>> Hi guys.  Have a question for you.
>>
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>
>hi
hi back to ya
 
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